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Re: Outlook 2016 and NVDA

Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
 

No,

I wanted the count of unread messages in the folder and his answer works perfectly.

Yes, sometimes that is also in the status line, but shift tabbing to the folder name reads the number of unread messages.  Then, as you arrow up or down through the folder list it will read the number of unread messages in each folder.

 

Thanks for the status line command, that will come in handy for some other applications.

 

Richard

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, July 9, 2016 12:30 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Outlook 2016 and NVDA

 

The person asking the question appears to want to know how to read the status line,  Status lines are becoming increasingly less common in programs.  I have no idea if current versions of Outlook have one.  If your version does and if it is one that NVDA can recognize, the command is NVDA key end.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2016 12:38 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Outlook 2016 and NVDA

 

When you’re in the message list, shift tab once.  You should hear the name of the folder you’re in and the number of messages it contains.

 

HTH

 

Dan

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2016 1:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Outlook 2016 and NVDA

 

Hello,

I just joined this group.

I am primarily a Window-Eyes user.

I’d like to learn to use NVDA more efficiently.

Is there a way to have NVDA speak the number of unread messages in a given folder?  Maybe an addon?

 

I’ve not found anything yet.

 

Thanks,

Richard

 


Re: Outlook 2016 and NVDA

Gene
 

The person asking the question appears to want to know how to read the status line,  Status lines are becoming increasingly less common in programs.  I have no idea if current versions of Outlook have one.  If your version does and if it is one that NVDA can recognize, the command is NVDA key end.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2016 12:38 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Outlook 2016 and NVDA

When you’re in the message list, shift tab once.  You should hear the name of the folder you’re in and the number of messages it contains.

 

HTH

 

Dan

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2016 1:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Outlook 2016 and NVDA

 

Hello,

I just joined this group.

I am primarily a Window-Eyes user.

I’d like to learn to use NVDA more efficiently.

Is there a way to have NVDA speak the number of unread messages in a given folder?  Maybe an addon?

 

I’ve not found anything yet.

 

Thanks,

Richard

 


Re: brousers that speak the progress bars when downloading

Gene
 

I don't know which browsers NVDA speaks the progress bars of for downloads.  But in my opinion, overreliance on progress bars is often the result of not being properly familiar with the program being used.  I'm not saying that to criticize you or anyone else.  I am stating a general conclusion that I believe is valid. In firefox, for example, during a download, issuing the command control j opens a library window where a list of previous downloads is displayed.  The first one in the list is the current download.  using the read current line command, numpad 8 in the desktop layout will give you information such as the speed of the download, the percent downloaded the estimated time to completion, and perhaps other information I don't now recall.  Leave that Window opened.  Then return to it and check from time to time if you want to see current information.  Others may be able to tell you how to see the progress bar in various browsers.
 
But my point is that there is often other ways to get information.  Also, there may be an add on in Firefox that will notify you when a download completes.  Others will have to discuss that.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: n8mnx@...
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2016 12:04 PM
Subject: [nvda] brousers that speak the progress bars when downloading

    I am looking for a brouser that nvda will speak the progress bar when I down load I use to use webie but today it no longer works even after I uninstalled and reinstalled it. I really want to hear the progress bar when I download to know if my downloads anre working or not.

Brian Sackrider


On 7/9/2016 1:00 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

Hello,

I just joined this group.

I am primarily a Window-Eyes user.

I’d like to learn to use NVDA more efficiently.

Is there a way to have NVDA speak the number of unread messages in a given folder?  Maybe an addon?

 

I’ve not found anything yet.

 

Thanks,

Richard

 





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Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
 

In Outlook 2016, NVDA reads if a message is unread.   It does not say it it is replied to, forwarded, or read.

Anyway to at least get replied and forwarded announced?

 

Richard

 


Is there a quick way of switching between the chosen table and 8-dot Braille?

John J. Boyer
 

This would be very convenient for programmers.

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FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Hi,

 

I have been working all day on this topic and have put together the following notes about using PowerPoint with NVDA. Please let me know what you think of these notes. Have you any improvements to suggest?

 

I have used PowerPoint 2010 on Windows 10 using NVDA 2016.2 on my Desktop Pc.

 

Notes on the use of PowerPoint with NVDA

 

1. File opens in slide view

2. Page Down moves from slide to slide showing the title pane

 

For the first slide:

3. Press tab to move to the title placeholder. NVDA reads the title of the slide;

4. Press tab again to move to the subtitle placeholder. NVDA reads the subtitle;

5. Press tab again to move to the embedded graphic. NVDA  says "Graphic" if no alt text;

6. Press tab again to move to rectangle shape.

7. Press tab again to return to the title placeholder at the top of the slide

 

Press page down For the second slide:

8. Press tab to move to the title placeholder

9. Press tab to go to the text placeholder. NVDA reads all the text in the placeholder

10. Press numpad 9 and numbpad 7 to read the text in the placeholder line by line

11. Press tab to move to the graphic image. NVDA reports the location of the graphic in the computer when the alt text has not been filled in.

 

Press page down for the third slide

12. Press tab for the Title placeholder

13. Press tab for the object placeholder. NVDA reads all the text as in the text placeholder at 9 above

 

 

Press pagedown for slide 4;

Same as slide 3.

 

Press page down for slide 5

15. Press tab for footer placeholder. NVDA reads all text in the footer;

16. Press tab for slide number placeholder. NVDA reads out the number of the slide;

17. Press tab for title placeholder

18. Press tab for text placeholder.

19. Press tab to return to the footer placeholder.

 

control+home jumps to the first slide

control+end jumps to the last slide.

 

The Slide Show

 

Press F5 to start the slide show

NVDA reads the whole slide from top to bottom including the title and leaves the cursor at the bottom of the slide.

1. Press page down and page up to move from slide to slide. Note that it may be necessary to wait for a few seconds between key presses to allow the slide show to catch up;

2. Press numpad 9 and numpad 7 to read the contents of the slide line by line.

3. Press return or space bar to move to the next slide. Sometimes nothing happens and then do the instruction at 4 below.

4. Type the  number  of a slide followed by return to jump to that slide.

5. Press control-shift-s to switch back and forth between the slide and its accompanying notes.

6. Use F6 to move between the status bar pane, slide view pane, thumbnails pane and notes pane. Use the arrow keys to move through the options available in each of these panes. Use F6 to move to the chosen view to see the results.

7. Use the escape key to exit the slide show.

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From: Cearbhall O'Meadhra [mailto:cearbhall.omeadhra@...]
Sent: Saturday, July 9, 2016 12:08 PM
To: 'nvda@nvda.groups.io'
Subject: RE: NVDA and PowerPoint

 

Hi again,

 

I am using PowerPoint 2010 with NVDA 2016.2 and Windows 10 on a desktop PC.

 

All advice welcome, thanks!

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cearbhall O'Meadhra
Sent: Saturday, July 9, 2016 11:48 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and PowerPoint

 

Hi,

 

I have taken on a new project in which I have to be able to read several PowerPoint presentations. Are there any guides for using PowerPoint with NVDA? Can anyone give me any pointers from their own experience?

 

 

All the best,

 

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Re: Indicating Python indentation in Braille

John J. Boyer
 

It would be much more intuitive if each level of indentation was shown
as a non-blank cell. Such cells are quicker and easier to count.

John

On Sat, Jul 09, 2016 at 11:03:09AM -0700, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Each indentation is shown as blank cell.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of John J.
Boyer
Sent: Saturday, July 9, 2016 10:59 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Indicating Python indentation in Braille

Is there a way to display a single-cell dot pattern for each level of
indentation in Python? It must be Braille, not speech, since I am
deaf-blind.

Thanks,
John

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Re: Reviewing the screen with the mouse keys

Kevin Chao
 

PLease have look at flat review and object navigation in NVDA user guide :)
Third option is speak text under mouse pointer, where you can move mouse around to explore screen content.

On Sat, Jul 9, 2016 at 10:54 AM Richard Turner <richardturner42@...> wrote:

I can’t figure out how to review the screen using the mouse cursor with the numpad keys.  Is that possible with NVDA?

 

Richard

 


Re: Indicating Python indentation in Braille

 

Hi,
Each indentation is shown as blank cell.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of John J.
Boyer
Sent: Saturday, July 9, 2016 10:59 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Indicating Python indentation in Braille

Is there a way to display a single-cell dot pattern for each level of
indentation in Python? It must be Braille, not speech, since I am
deaf-blind.

Thanks,
John

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Indicating Python indentation in Braille

John J. Boyer
 

Is there a way to display a single-cell dot pattern for each level of
indentation in Python? It must be Braille, not speech, since I am
deaf-blind.

Thanks,
John

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AbilitiesSoft, Inc.
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Reviewing the screen with the mouse keys

Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
 

I can’t figure out how to review the screen using the mouse cursor with the numpad keys.  Is that possible with NVDA?

 

Richard

 


Re: NVDA and pizza sites

Danni
 

I complained once to pizza hut and they promptly put a link on their site for visually impaired users to use their mobile site for ordering but last time I tried ordering online which was a while ago it was not user friendly any more sadly!

I did attempt using papajohns.com the other day and it did seem to work pretty well so if that 1 is in your area it's worth trying!

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Mehler" <dave.mehler@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2016 8:14 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and pizza sites


Hello,

Unfortunately that's my perceptions so far as well. I would have hoped
that prominent businesses would not be doing this as it alienates
customers but there you go.

Dave.


On 7/8/16, Brian's Mail list account <bglists@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
It really needs more info, as I'm sure these sites vary a lot. I have in the

past heard that some of these sights are using flash a lot and pictures with

no tagging etc, instead of words and proper native html fields.
I'd have hoped by now, this was a couple of years ago, they might have made

their sites accessible though. Not into this myself I have to say. Awash
just asked by a friend to have a poke about and it was utter rubbish for the

blind.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "David Mehler" <dave.mehler@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2016 9:15 AM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and pizza sites


Hello,

My apologies if this is a repeat message. I sent t his to another list
and didn't get very much.

Is anyone using NVDA with online food ordering sites? In particular
online pizza ordering sites, dominos.com and pizzahut.com? I'm
particularly wanting to do custom ordering, but this really doesn't
work.

Thanks.
Dave.






Re: brousers that speak the progress bars when downloading

Danni
 

On i/e once you start a download then click the alt key go to downloads or view downloads it will update the progress almost to the point of annoying lol
 
----- Original Message -----
From: n8mnx@...
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2016 10:04 AM
Subject: [nvda] brousers that speak the progress bars when downloading

    I am looking for a brouser that nvda will speak the progress bar when I down load I use to use webie but today it no longer works even after I uninstalled and reinstalled it. I really want to hear the progress bar when I download to know if my downloads anre working or not.

Brian Sackrider


On 7/9/2016 1:00 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

Hello,

I just joined this group.

I am primarily a Window-Eyes user.

I’d like to learn to use NVDA more efficiently.

Is there a way to have NVDA speak the number of unread messages in a given folder?  Maybe an addon?

I’ve not found anything yet.

Thanks,

Richard





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Re: Outlook 2016 and NVDA

Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
 

Thank you, that does work.

With Window-eyes, when I hit control+y to select a folder, the number of unread messages is read as I arrow down.  This way, you have to go into a folder, shift+tab then arrow down and the unread numbers works, pretty much the same number of keystrokes, just a slightly different approach.

This I can get used to.

Thanks,

Richard

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dan Kerstetter
Sent: Saturday, July 9, 2016 10:38 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Outlook 2016 and NVDA

 

When you’re in the message list, shift tab once.  You should hear the name of the folder you’re in and the number of messages it contains.

 

HTH

 

Dan

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2016 1:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Outlook 2016 and NVDA

 

Hello,

I just joined this group.

I am primarily a Window-Eyes user.

I’d like to learn to use NVDA more efficiently.

Is there a way to have NVDA speak the number of unread messages in a given folder?  Maybe an addon?

 

I’ve not found anything yet.

 

Thanks,

Richard

 


Re: Outlook 2016 and NVDA

Dan Kerstetter
 

When you’re in the message list, shift tab once.  You should hear the name of the folder you’re in and the number of messages it contains.

 

HTH

 

Dan

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2016 1:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Outlook 2016 and NVDA

 

Hello,

I just joined this group.

I am primarily a Window-Eyes user.

I’d like to learn to use NVDA more efficiently.

Is there a way to have NVDA speak the number of unread messages in a given folder?  Maybe an addon?

 

I’ve not found anything yet.

 

Thanks,

Richard

 


regarding MS access

Ravi Paswan <ravipaswan32@...>
 

hello team member I have suffering a strange problem
to using NVDA.
because I am doing the MS access 20007 with NVDA but it is not
supported there some feeture suppose when I am select the data type
of any colum to press alt+ down arrow to choose the data type.
but there is NVDA is not supported and also hang my PC then I have
receive a error message [the MS access is not responding].


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brousers that speak the progress bars when downloading

n8mnx@att.net
 

    I am looking for a brouser that nvda will speak the progress bar when I down load I use to use webie but today it no longer works even after I uninstalled and reinstalled it. I really want to hear the progress bar when I download to know if my downloads anre working or not.

Brian Sackrider


On 7/9/2016 1:00 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

Hello,

I just joined this group.

I am primarily a Window-Eyes user.

I’d like to learn to use NVDA more efficiently.

Is there a way to have NVDA speak the number of unread messages in a given folder?  Maybe an addon?

 

I’ve not found anything yet.

 

Thanks,

Richard

 





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Outlook 2016 and NVDA

Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
 

Hello,

I just joined this group.

I am primarily a Window-Eyes user.

I’d like to learn to use NVDA more efficiently.

Is there a way to have NVDA speak the number of unread messages in a given folder?  Maybe an addon?

 

I’ve not found anything yet.

 

Thanks,

Richard

 


Re: Switching from Win7 To Win10?

Kevin Cussick
 

win10 is very stable I think it is the best OS yet to date. I have put it on 10 machines and love it.

On 09/07/2016 04:12, Roger Stewart wrote:
So far, Win 10 works just the same as Win 7. That is, it saved
everything--all my programs and all my desktop shortcuts so I can just
type in a letter or two and start anything I want. The only big thing
I've noticed is that pull down menus don't work at all for some reason.
If I hit alt and down arrow, I get nonsense and don't know what it means
or wants. However, if I just hit the application key, then I get the old
style file menu with all the good old choices and I can do anything I
want just as I always did. Just one small thing to learn to keep using
it. It has never crashed, nor caused anything else to crash so far, and
seems as stable as Win 7 ever did. I would feel very mad if I had to
pay for this, but because it's a free upgrade, I have no objections to
it at all.

Roger







On 7/8/2016 6:50 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Well I do think then they have failed reguardless.
For those of us still on 7 there is a reason why.
Lets see.
1. the start menu.
For those on 7 its ok, in fact its better than ok.
In 10 we will have to either get used to the other one or fix it so it
works.
2. explorer.
In 7 its ok.now its ribboned and buttoned and makes no sence and I
don't know how to do a lot of things in it.
3. universal apps, who uses them more importantly why would you they
suck anyway.
4, mobile windows, same as 3.
5. edge, ie has issues, edge sucks to be honest we are happy with
firefox or chrome at least I am.
6. mail, it did suck but to be honest I have been using thunderbird
for so long I don't care.
7, the store, groove music, etc, don't need it what is wrong with what
I am using.
8. ms account, nice if you have chained devices but most of us don't
we don't even use onedrive.
8. stability, win7 is stable and doesn't care what hardware you have
for now at least.
9, windows10 sucks.
You know as users that said f**ck you win8x that ms would have
listened to us.
I feel as one of those users while they have listened partly its only
in part.
Win10 is still win8x with extra junk we don't need.
I'll use it eventually but hmmm.
With uia and its inconsistancies etc, I am left hanging wandering what
I am missing.
Win7 is the most stable windows.
And while I will use it win10 has been anything but stable.
I just want the hype to calm down so we can start on win11.
Now they are trying to help.
What about all the hastles with the gwx program, a little to late.
Office is much the same, office 2003 was fine, 2007 was ok, 2010 was
well fine but now its hmmm I don't know.
As a user that has stood back till I will eventually have to I do feel
ms has let us down by not fully listening to its userbase once again.
What I want is a simple win7 style explorer, menu, etc, with the local
account system we have always had using the old but stable programs we
always have done for our desktop computers.
With the ability to switch modes to others as we need or wish to start
and stop programs, etc.
Now I am not saying they didn't try, but its not enough as far as I care.
And they are including us more as users, they could still do a load
better.
I will stay with win7 till it dies or till my computer dies or till I
get a system with 10 on it which is brand new.
Thing is there are probably enough units round I won't ever need to do
that.
I am not a businessman.
I don't need complex stuff and a simple interface like win7 has been
has helped a lot.
Heck xp would be fine though I do like the 7 interface now.
I can get by on 10 I guess I want all my sounds back and the freedom
to do as I have always done.
If I could load my os kernal and run whatever desktop I wanted on it I
would, but still run my windows programs I would.
I have spent a bit to much to drop to linux though.



On 9/07/2016 2:55 a.m., Gene wrote:
Microsoft all but admitted that it failed the disabled community. It
said that if you are disabled, you can switch after the deadline.
I don't know how they determine that you are disabled. You might
want to ask. From: David Russell

If it were me, I wouldn't swittch.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
\Sent: Friday, July 08, 2016 8:23 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Switching from Win7 To Win10?


Hello Group members,

I have held off on switching from Win7 to Win10 until now, and note
that in North America, switching is free until July 29.

I believe for vision-impaired NVDA users, myself included, resources
like the Microsoft Disability Answer Desk will help one switch.

I use NVDA, FireFox, MS Word, Jarte, and Google as primary programs
and often listen to online radio through tunein.com.

Have bugs been sufficiently resolved to make switching a viable option?

Has anyone seen how long Microsoft intends to provide support for Win7
beyond July 2016?

I bought my computer last September, and hope to retain it for at
least 3 more years. Thanks for input.
Cheers,




Re: NVDA and PowerPoint

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Hi again,

 

I am using PowerPoint 2010 with NVDA 2016.2 and Windows 10 on a desktop PC.

 

All advice welcome, thanks!

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cearbhall O'Meadhra
Sent: Saturday, July 9, 2016 11:48 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and PowerPoint

 

Hi,

 

I have taken on a new project in which I have to be able to read several PowerPoint presentations. Are there any guides for using PowerPoint with NVDA? Can anyone give me any pointers from their own experience?

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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