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Moving from Windows 7 to 10, what can I expectg from NVDA?

John J. Boyer
 

I'm thinking of replacing my Wincows 7 machine. It is almost 10 years old and has become unreliable. What can I expect
from NVDA in Windows 10?

Thanks,
John

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Re: Is any release prior to the latest stable release, and thenext RC release, officially supported? #NVDARelease

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Probably in a week or two. We'll get an announcement when the final release comes out.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of nasrin khaksar
Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2016 9:35 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is any release prior to the latest stable release, and thenext RC release, officially supported? #NVDARelease

when is the time for final release of nvda?

On 12/8/16, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@gmail.com> wrote:
But XP is no longer supported. Microsoft stopped supporting it 2 years ago.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
nasrin khaksar
Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2016 6:19 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is any release prior to the latest stable release,
and thenext RC release, officially supported? #NVDARelease

i wish that can use always xp!
for its simplicity, less system resources, familiar and easy menus and
even because of my beliefs and faith!

On 12/8/16, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
XP isn't more stable than later versions of Windows. Instability is
caused by problems such as driver incompatibility, hardware problems,
and other reasons I don't have enough technical knowledge to discuss.
But there is a misconception that you often hear that XP is more stable.

gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Arlene
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 4:21 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is any release prior to the latest stable
release, and thenext RC release, officially supported? #NVDARelease


Hi, Is xp your favorite version of windows? If it is. all the world
to you.
If you like playing games on it. Especially ones that are geared for
the blind. All the world to you. From what I heard, other blind
computer users said xp was more stable.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
nasrin khaksar
Sent: December-07-16 12:44 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is any release prior to the latest stable
release, and thenext RC release, officially supported? #NVDARelease

hi quentin.
thanks extremely for your kindness and sympathy with me as always and
thanks extremely for your guide and great news about continuation of
support for my favorite windows!

On 12/7/16, nasrin khaksar <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com> wrote:
hi david.
i tried uninstalled and reinstallation of nvda and also potplayer
and nothing has change.
and also, i wrote narrator with the correct spelling narrator!

On 12/7/16, nasrin khaksar <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com> wrote:
hi travis.
i am completely agree with you.
thanks so much for your comment.

On 12/7/16, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
I am very skeptical that uninstalling and reinstalling NVDA will help.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: David
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2016 7:38 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is any release prior to the latest stable
release, and thenext RC release, officially supported?
#NVDARelease


OK, sorry I don't know much other than this to try. Long as you
spelled the narrator phrase correctly, which I am sure you have
double-checked, and your Windows do not start the service.


One last resort that comes to mind, have you ever considered
reinstalling NVDA? I would think thare might be a way to back up
all your NVDA settings, to something like a USB pen. Then
completely remove the screen reader from your system. Redownload a
fresh copy, and install NVDA all from scrach. Reboot, and perform
your testing in the software of your choice.


Something might have got broken in your installation of NVDA. And
you might have incidentially changed a setting somewhere. So if
you have never done a reinstallation, you hereby are encouraged.


Apart from that, I am out of ideas. Hope someone else will help
you out.


David

On 12/6/2016 6:52 PM, nasrin khaksar wrote:
david,
i dont open two screen reader simultaneously.
i only installed both and when openning one, closed another and
it was not compatible for my system.
and about narrator, i am completely sure that dont have it.
i wrote it in the run and the run window became closed without
any error!

On 12/6/16, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@gmail.com> wrote:
I think Microsoft stopped support for windows XP in 2014 if I'm
not mistaken.




On 12/6/2016 7:01 AM, nasrin khaksar wrote:
antony, do you know the last version of nvda which supports xp?
whats the last version that i can use?
i realy wish that its be possible supporting of xp forever.

On 12/6/16, Supanut Leepaisomboon <supanut2000@outlook.com> wrote:
Well, you get to enjoy the benefits of both OSes. Think of it
this way, if you install Windows XP mode in Windows 7, and
when you go into Windows XP and install anything, it shows up
in the Windows 7 start menu so it's relatively easy to launch;
although the catch is that I think XP mode is not available
for the home editions of Windows 7, except for Windows 7 Ultimate.
From my tests in the past, NVDA does work under XP mode.

In response to a message earlier, yes, free/open source
software stopped supporting old versions of Windows later than
paid ones, but eventually old versions of Windows will not be
supported.
Take Firefox, Mozilla stopped supporting Windows 2000 I think
a year or 2-3 years after Windows
2000
became unsupported by Microsoft.






--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org

--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org

--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org







--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org








--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages al-islam.org


Re: Is any release prior to the latest stable release, and thenext RC release, officially supported? #NVDARelease

 

when is the time for final release of nvda?

On 12/8/16, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@gmail.com> wrote:
But XP is no longer supported. Microsoft stopped supporting it 2 years ago.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of nasrin
khaksar
Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2016 6:19 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is any release prior to the latest stable release, and
thenext RC release, officially supported? #NVDARelease

i wish that can use always xp!
for its simplicity, less system resources, familiar and easy menus and even
because of my beliefs and faith!

On 12/8/16, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
XP isn't more stable than later versions of Windows. Instability is
caused by problems such as driver incompatibility, hardware problems,
and other reasons I don't have enough technical knowledge to discuss.
But there is a misconception that you often hear that XP is more stable.

gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Arlene
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 4:21 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is any release prior to the latest stable release,
and thenext RC release, officially supported? #NVDARelease


Hi, Is xp your favorite version of windows? If it is. all the world to
you.
If you like playing games on it. Especially ones that are geared for
the blind. All the world to you. From what I heard, other blind
computer users said xp was more stable.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
nasrin khaksar
Sent: December-07-16 12:44 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is any release prior to the latest stable release,
and thenext RC release, officially supported? #NVDARelease

hi quentin.
thanks extremely for your kindness and sympathy with me as always and
thanks extremely for your guide and great news about continuation of
support for my favorite windows!

On 12/7/16, nasrin khaksar <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com> wrote:
hi david.
i tried uninstalled and reinstallation of nvda and also potplayer and
nothing has change.
and also, i wrote narrator with the correct spelling narrator!

On 12/7/16, nasrin khaksar <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com> wrote:
hi travis.
i am completely agree with you.
thanks so much for your comment.

On 12/7/16, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
I am very skeptical that uninstalling and reinstalling NVDA will help.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: David
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2016 7:38 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is any release prior to the latest stable
release, and thenext RC release, officially supported? #NVDARelease


OK, sorry I don't know much other than this to try. Long as you
spelled the narrator phrase correctly, which I am sure you have
double-checked, and your Windows do not start the service.


One last resort that comes to mind, have you ever considered
reinstalling NVDA? I would think thare might be a way to back up
all your NVDA settings, to something like a USB pen. Then
completely remove the screen reader from your system. Redownload a
fresh copy, and install NVDA all from scrach. Reboot, and perform
your testing in the software of your choice.


Something might have got broken in your installation of NVDA. And
you might have incidentially changed a setting somewhere. So if you
have never done a reinstallation, you hereby are encouraged.


Apart from that, I am out of ideas. Hope someone else will help you
out.


David

On 12/6/2016 6:52 PM, nasrin khaksar wrote:
david,
i dont open two screen reader simultaneously.
i only installed both and when openning one, closed another and it
was not compatible for my system.
and about narrator, i am completely sure that dont have it.
i wrote it in the run and the run window became closed without any
error!

On 12/6/16, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@gmail.com> wrote:
I think Microsoft stopped support for windows XP in 2014 if I'm
not mistaken.




On 12/6/2016 7:01 AM, nasrin khaksar wrote:
antony, do you know the last version of nvda which supports xp?
whats the last version that i can use?
i realy wish that its be possible supporting of xp forever.

On 12/6/16, Supanut Leepaisomboon <supanut2000@outlook.com> wrote:
Well, you get to enjoy the benefits of both OSes. Think of it
this way, if you install Windows XP mode in Windows 7, and when
you go into Windows XP and install anything, it shows up in the
Windows 7 start menu so it's relatively easy to launch;
although the catch is that I think XP mode is not available for
the home editions of Windows 7, except for Windows 7 Ultimate.
From my tests in the past, NVDA does work under XP mode.

In response to a message earlier, yes, free/open source
software stopped supporting old versions of Windows later than
paid ones, but eventually old versions of Windows will not be
supported.
Take Firefox, Mozilla stopped supporting Windows 2000 I think a
year or 2-3 years after Windows
2000
became unsupported by Microsoft.






--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org

--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org

--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org







--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages al-islam.org







--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org


Re: Is any release prior to the latest stable release, and thenext RC release, officially supported? #NVDARelease

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

But XP is no longer supported. Microsoft stopped supporting it 2 years ago.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of nasrin khaksar
Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2016 6:19 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is any release prior to the latest stable release, and thenext RC release, officially supported? #NVDARelease

i wish that can use always xp!
for its simplicity, less system resources, familiar and easy menus and even because of my beliefs and faith!

On 12/8/16, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
XP isn't more stable than later versions of Windows. Instability is
caused by problems such as driver incompatibility, hardware problems,
and other reasons I don't have enough technical knowledge to discuss.
But there is a misconception that you often hear that XP is more stable.

gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Arlene
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 4:21 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is any release prior to the latest stable release,
and thenext RC release, officially supported? #NVDARelease


Hi, Is xp your favorite version of windows? If it is. all the world to you.
If you like playing games on it. Especially ones that are geared for
the blind. All the world to you. From what I heard, other blind
computer users said xp was more stable.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
nasrin khaksar
Sent: December-07-16 12:44 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is any release prior to the latest stable release,
and thenext RC release, officially supported? #NVDARelease

hi quentin.
thanks extremely for your kindness and sympathy with me as always and
thanks extremely for your guide and great news about continuation of
support for my favorite windows!

On 12/7/16, nasrin khaksar <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com> wrote:
hi david.
i tried uninstalled and reinstallation of nvda and also potplayer and
nothing has change.
and also, i wrote narrator with the correct spelling narrator!

On 12/7/16, nasrin khaksar <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com> wrote:
hi travis.
i am completely agree with you.
thanks so much for your comment.

On 12/7/16, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
I am very skeptical that uninstalling and reinstalling NVDA will help.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: David
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2016 7:38 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is any release prior to the latest stable
release, and thenext RC release, officially supported? #NVDARelease


OK, sorry I don't know much other than this to try. Long as you
spelled the narrator phrase correctly, which I am sure you have
double-checked, and your Windows do not start the service.


One last resort that comes to mind, have you ever considered
reinstalling NVDA? I would think thare might be a way to back up
all your NVDA settings, to something like a USB pen. Then
completely remove the screen reader from your system. Redownload a
fresh copy, and install NVDA all from scrach. Reboot, and perform
your testing in the software of your choice.


Something might have got broken in your installation of NVDA. And
you might have incidentially changed a setting somewhere. So if you
have never done a reinstallation, you hereby are encouraged.


Apart from that, I am out of ideas. Hope someone else will help you
out.


David

On 12/6/2016 6:52 PM, nasrin khaksar wrote:
david,
i dont open two screen reader simultaneously.
i only installed both and when openning one, closed another and it
was not compatible for my system.
and about narrator, i am completely sure that dont have it.
i wrote it in the run and the run window became closed without any
error!

On 12/6/16, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@gmail.com> wrote:
I think Microsoft stopped support for windows XP in 2014 if I'm
not mistaken.




On 12/6/2016 7:01 AM, nasrin khaksar wrote:
antony, do you know the last version of nvda which supports xp?
whats the last version that i can use?
i realy wish that its be possible supporting of xp forever.

On 12/6/16, Supanut Leepaisomboon <supanut2000@outlook.com> wrote:
Well, you get to enjoy the benefits of both OSes. Think of it
this way, if you install Windows XP mode in Windows 7, and when
you go into Windows XP and install anything, it shows up in the
Windows 7 start menu so it's relatively easy to launch;
although the catch is that I think XP mode is not available for
the home editions of Windows 7, except for Windows 7 Ultimate.
From my tests in the past, NVDA does work under XP mode.

In response to a message earlier, yes, free/open source
software stopped supporting old versions of Windows later than
paid ones, but eventually old versions of Windows will not be supported.
Take Firefox, Mozilla stopped supporting Windows 2000 I think a
year or 2-3 years after Windows
2000
became unsupported by Microsoft.






--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org

--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org

--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org







--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages al-islam.org


Re: MS support stopping from January

Gene
 

If you want technical information, you can use the reliability utility.  I'd have to use it again to refresh my memory about the interface but if you run it, it will show you problems that have occurred.  You can select a problem and see technical information but I don't recall just how you do it.
 
If you type reliability in the search in Windows start, my recollection is that it will come up as an early result.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2016 10:54 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] MS support stopping from January

So the question is what is the difference? I fully expect a truck load of
the usual updates next Tuesday.
I have just had a crash of windows 7. I had word open and Jarte open and
when I pasted something from word into Jarte with the current next snapshot
it  just went completely silent and theen restarted the computer with the
usual windows has recoverd from bla bla and of course it did not tell me
anything about what happened so I have no idea where to look.
 Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Vogel" <britechguy@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2016 4:09 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] MS support stopping from January


On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 06:53 am, Joseph Lee wrote:

>
> Er, that page says mainstream support for Windows 7 ended in 2015 unless
> my hearing has gone wrong…

Joseph, your hearing hasn't gone wonky. Mainstream support for Win7 ended on
January 13, 2015, and extended support will end on January 14, 2020.
--
*Brian*

*Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete. If you’re
alive, it isn’t.*

~ Lauren Bacall




Re: MS support stopping from January

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

So the question is what is the difference? I fully expect a truck load of the usual updates next Tuesday.
I have just had a crash of windows 7. I had word open and Jarte open and when I pasted something from word into Jarte with the current next snapshot it just went completely silent and theen restarted the computer with the usual windows has recoverd from bla bla and of course it did not tell me anything about what happened so I have no idea where to look.
Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Vogel" <britechguy@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2016 4:09 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] MS support stopping from January


On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 06:53 am, Joseph Lee wrote:


Er, that page says mainstream support for Windows 7 ended in 2015 unless
my hearing has gone wrong…
Joseph, your hearing hasn't gone wonky. Mainstream support for Win7 ended on January 13, 2015, and extended support will end on January 14, 2020.
--
*Brian*

*Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete. If you’re alive, it isn’t.*

~ Lauren Bacall


Re: Google Chrome Browser

Gene
 

It makes no sense to have tutorials sent out to everyone individually who wants one.  And the list may be cluttered with individual request after individual request.  It makes much more sense to make the file generally available and provide a link.
 
Gene


Re: MS support stopping from January

 

On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 06:53 am, Joseph Lee wrote:
Er, that page says mainstream support for Windows 7 ended in 2015 unless my hearing has gone wrong…

 Joseph, your hearing hasn't gone wonky.  Mainstream support for Win7 ended on January 13, 2015, and extended support will end on January 14, 2020.
--
Brian

Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If you’re alive, it isn’t.

    ~ Lauren Bacall

    



Re: MS support stopping from January

Gene
 

This was referring to Windows Live Mail.  Word 2003 hasn't been supported for a while.  It doesn't mean that programs will stop working.  It means that they won't receive security updates.  If some sort of malicious code in documents is found to allow Word to let in or act on that malicious code, it won't be corrected.  There are different kinds or levels of support but that is what is being discussed here and that is what I'm discussing regarding Windows Live Mail and Word 2003.  Depending on how you use Word, this may or may not matterr.  Meaning that if you only receive typical documents and are careful only to open documents from people you know are safe, you'll probably not have problems.  
 
Gene 

----- Original Message -----
From: Sakina
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2016 8:13 AM
Subject: [nvda] MS support stopping from January

Hello david,

Pardon my ignorance. Computer I am using was set up for me a long time ago. I have a desk top original window 7

Then the sighted helper upgraded free  to window ten.

It has got Outlook and Microsoft office 2003 and google as my home page.

I just read in the below email that MS will not support anything from January and there will be no security.

Please can you advise us what we can do before January.

Is there any free support that I can use after January.

I hope I am asking the right questions.

Thank you very much.

Many regards

Sakina


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2016 12:55 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] windows live mail and windows 10

 

Hi Rosemarie,

Yes it will, but there will be no more support from MS after January. It is being phased out, so if you use it, there will be no more security up dates for it.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 7:49 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] windows live mail and windows 10

 

Hi, everyone,

 

 

Will windows live mail work well with the latest version of windows 10?

I'm thinking of leaving thunderbird if windows live mail will work. I

know you can't create message filters with windows live if you have an

immap account but I can deal with it.

 

 

Thanks for your help in advance.

 

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

 

 

 


Virus-free. www.avast.com


Re: Google Chrome Browser

Brice Mijares
 

Did anyone receive there request for this tutorial? Because I'd sure like to learn how Chrome works.
bricemijares@att.net


Re: Google Chrome Browser

Kevin Chao
 

I'd also like a copy of using Chrome with screen reader doc. Thanks!


On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 12:35 AM Supanut Leepaisomboon <supanut2000@...> wrote:

Hi Chris,

I would also like a copy of your document, as I would like to give Chrome a try once more.


Re: NVDA Certification?

Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...>
 

Cool! how much will the certification testing cost? I'm assuming any fees for certification will be rolled into the development of NVDA, (not a bad way to raise funds actually).  Assuming the fees aren't too bad, I'd be very interested in this certification.



On 12/7/2016 9:10 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Hi everyone,

To compliment the training modules we are slowly releasing, a series of certifications is also being developed.  The first of these, to correspond to the knowledge gained from the "Basic Training for NVDA" module, is due to be available shortly.

The assessment will be online, and yes, achieving certification will be something that you may include in your e-mail signature or promotional material etc.

Apologies for the delay in making the certification available - as is so often the case, it always takes longer to implement that you at first think, but we'd rather have it a little later than originally planned, but done right.

I'll be sure and let the group know once it's available.

Kind regards

Quentin.


On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 1:00 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...> wrote:
OK, but this comes back to you if I get in trouble. LOL!
 
NVDA Certification is an exciting new program which allows participants to demonstrate and confirm their in-depth knowledge of NVDA.
 
This program is particularly suited to:
 
list of 5 items
• Trainers
• Technicians
• Accessibility professionals
• Add-on developers
• Dedicated users of NVDA who wish to demonstrate their proficiency.
More information on how to become certified will be available on the NVDA web site shortly.
 
This was taken from section 14.14.
 
Finally taken from instructions.txt:
 
Upon completion of the topics in this module, you may be interested in sitting the certification exam.  Successful completion of the certification will enable you to be listed as a certified user, and provide you with a uniquely numbered, printable certificate you can use to quantify your proficiency with NVDA (available 3rd quarter 2016).  Please see http://www.nvaccess.org/ for details.
 
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Re: NVDA and iTunes.

Matt Turner
 

Just for testing, I tried it with 2015.4. And i was able to access the store, with out iTunes crashing.

On 12/8/2016 8:59 AM, Matt Turner wrote:
Hi folks.

the NVDA crashing with iTunes as been fixed, but it seems I'm having another problem.

Does this happen for anyone else who uses iTunes?

In the search box, type a song to look up in the store.

When you here the sound that iTunes makes telling you that the page is loaded, press the NVDA key + F5, to refresh the screen.

Then, click on and album, and when the page loads, refresh the screen again.

What's happening for me, is that the iTunes stops responding window comes up.

I'm not sure if the same result happens with apple music.

Using the latest version of iTunes, on windows 8.1, 64 bit.


Re: MS support stopping from January

Ron Canazzi
 

According To the Windows Life Cycle page:

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/13853/windows-lifecycle-fact-sheet


Mainstream support for Windows 7 ends in 2017, but this does not mean total support.  Security updates and patches for vulnerabilities will be maintained until 2020.



On 12/8/2016 9:13 AM, Sakina wrote:

Hello david,

Pardon my ignorance. Computer I am using was set up for me a long time ago. I have a desk top original window 7

Then the sighted helper upgraded free  to window ten.

It has got Outlook and Microsoft office 2003 and google as my home page.

I just read in the below email that MS will not support anything from January and there will be no security.

Please can you advise us what we can do before January.

Is there any free support that I can use after January.

I hope I am asking the right questions.

Thank you very much.

Many regards

Sakina


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2016 12:55 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] windows live mail and windows 10

 

Hi Rosemarie,

Yes it will, but there will be no more support from MS after January. It is being phased out, so if you use it, there will be no more security up dates for it.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 7:49 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] windows live mail and windows 10

 

Hi, everyone,

 

 

Will windows live mail work well with the latest version of windows 10?

I'm thinking of leaving thunderbird if windows live mail will work. I

know you can't create message filters with windows live if you have an

immap account but I can deal with it.

 

 

Thanks for your help in advance.

 

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

 

 

 


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Re: MS support stopping from January

 

Hi,

Er, that page says mainstream support for Windows 7 ended in 2015 unless my hearing has gone wrong…

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ron Canazzi
Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2016 6:36 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] MS support stopping from January

 

According To the Windows Life Cycle page:

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/13853/windows-lifecycle-fact-sheet

 

Mainstream support for Windows 7 ends in 2017, but this does not mean total support.  Security updates and patches for vulnerabilities will be maintained until 2020.

 

 

On 12/8/2016 9:13 AM, Sakina wrote:

Hello david,

Pardon my ignorance. Computer I am using was set up for me a long time ago. I have a desk top original window 7

Then the sighted helper upgraded free  to window ten.

It has got Outlook and Microsoft office 2003 and google as my home page.

I just read in the below email that MS will not support anything from January and there will be no security.

Please can you advise us what we can do before January.

Is there any free support that I can use after January.

I hope I am asking the right questions.

Thank you very much.

Many regards

Sakina


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2016 12:55 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] windows live mail and windows 10

 

Hi Rosemarie,

Yes it will, but there will be no more support from MS after January. It is being phased out, so if you use it, there will be no more security up dates for it.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 7:49 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] windows live mail and windows 10

 

Hi, everyone,

 

 

Will windows live mail work well with the latest version of windows 10?

I'm thinking of leaving thunderbird if windows live mail will work. I

know you can't create message filters with windows live if you have an

immap account but I can deal with it.

 

 

Thanks for your help in advance.

 

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: MS support stopping from January

Ron Canazzi
 

According To the Windows Life Cycle page:

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/13853/windows-lifecycle-fact-sheet


Mainstream support for Windows 7 ends in 2017, but this does not mean total support.  Security updates and patches for vulnerabilities will be maintained until 2020.



On 12/8/2016 9:13 AM, Sakina wrote:

Hello david,

Pardon my ignorance. Computer I am using was set up for me a long time ago. I have a desk top original window 7

Then the sighted helper upgraded free  to window ten.

It has got Outlook and Microsoft office 2003 and google as my home page.

I just read in the below email that MS will not support anything from January and there will be no security.

Please can you advise us what we can do before January.

Is there any free support that I can use after January.

I hope I am asking the right questions.

Thank you very much.

Many regards

Sakina


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2016 12:55 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] windows live mail and windows 10

 

Hi Rosemarie,

Yes it will, but there will be no more support from MS after January. It is being phased out, so if you use it, there will be no more security up dates for it.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 7:49 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] windows live mail and windows 10

 

Hi, everyone,

 

 

Will windows live mail work well with the latest version of windows 10?

I'm thinking of leaving thunderbird if windows live mail will work. I

know you can't create message filters with windows live if you have an

immap account but I can deal with it.

 

 

Thanks for your help in advance.

 

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

 

 

 


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They ask: "How Happy are You?"
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Re: MS support stopping from January

Ron Canazzi
 

According To the Windows Life Cycle page:

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/13853/windows-lifecycle-fact-sheet


Mainstream support for Windows 7 ends in 2017, but this does not mean total support.  Security updates and patches for vulnerabilities will be maintained until 2020.



On 12/8/2016 9:13 AM, Sakina wrote:

Hello david,

Pardon my ignorance. Computer I am using was set up for me a long time ago. I have a desk top original window 7

Then the sighted helper upgraded free  to window ten.

It has got Outlook and Microsoft office 2003 and google as my home page.

I just read in the below email that MS will not support anything from January and there will be no security.

Please can you advise us what we can do before January.

Is there any free support that I can use after January.

I hope I am asking the right questions.

Thank you very much.

Many regards

Sakina


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2016 12:55 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] windows live mail and windows 10

 

Hi Rosemarie,

Yes it will, but there will be no more support from MS after January. It is being phased out, so if you use it, there will be no more security up dates for it.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 7:49 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] windows live mail and windows 10

 

Hi, everyone,

 

 

Will windows live mail work well with the latest version of windows 10?

I'm thinking of leaving thunderbird if windows live mail will work. I

know you can't create message filters with windows live if you have an

immap account but I can deal with it.

 

 

Thanks for your help in advance.

 

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

 

 

 


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Re: Is any release prior to the latest stable release, and thenext RC release, officially supported? #NVDARelease

 

i wish that can use always xp!
for its simplicity, less system resources, familiar and easy menus and
even because of my beliefs and faith!

On 12/8/16, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
XP isn't more stable than later versions of Windows. Instability is caused
by problems such as driver incompatibility, hardware problems, and other
reasons I don't have enough technical knowledge to discuss. But there is a
misconception that you often hear that XP is more stable.

gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Arlene
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 4:21 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is any release prior to the latest stable release, and
thenext RC release, officially supported? #NVDARelease


Hi, Is xp your favorite version of windows? If it is. all the world to you.
If you like playing games on it. Especially ones that are geared for the
blind. All the world to you. From what I heard, other blind computer users
said xp was more stable.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of nasrin
khaksar
Sent: December-07-16 12:44 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is any release prior to the latest stable release, and
thenext RC release, officially supported? #NVDARelease

hi quentin.
thanks extremely for your kindness and sympathy with me as always and thanks
extremely for your guide and great news about continuation of support for my
favorite windows!

On 12/7/16, nasrin khaksar <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com> wrote:
hi david.
i tried uninstalled and reinstallation of nvda and also potplayer and
nothing has change.
and also, i wrote narrator with the correct spelling narrator!

On 12/7/16, nasrin khaksar <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com> wrote:
hi travis.
i am completely agree with you.
thanks so much for your comment.

On 12/7/16, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
I am very skeptical that uninstalling and reinstalling NVDA will help.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: David
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2016 7:38 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is any release prior to the latest stable
release, and thenext RC release, officially supported? #NVDARelease


OK, sorry I don't know much other than this to try. Long as you
spelled the narrator phrase correctly, which I am sure you have
double-checked, and your Windows do not start the service.


One last resort that comes to mind, have you ever considered
reinstalling NVDA? I would think thare might be a way to back up all
your NVDA settings, to something like a USB pen. Then completely
remove the screen reader from your system. Redownload a fresh copy,
and install NVDA all from scrach. Reboot, and perform your testing
in the software of your choice.


Something might have got broken in your installation of NVDA. And
you might have incidentially changed a setting somewhere. So if you
have never done a reinstallation, you hereby are encouraged.


Apart from that, I am out of ideas. Hope someone else will help you
out.


David

On 12/6/2016 6:52 PM, nasrin khaksar wrote:
david,
i dont open two screen reader simultaneously.
i only installed both and when openning one, closed another and it
was not compatible for my system.
and about narrator, i am completely sure that dont have it.
i wrote it in the run and the run window became closed without any
error!

On 12/6/16, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@gmail.com> wrote:
I think Microsoft stopped support for windows XP in 2014 if I'm
not mistaken.




On 12/6/2016 7:01 AM, nasrin khaksar wrote:
antony, do you know the last version of nvda which supports xp?
whats the last version that i can use?
i realy wish that its be possible supporting of xp forever.

On 12/6/16, Supanut Leepaisomboon <supanut2000@outlook.com> wrote:
Well, you get to enjoy the benefits of both OSes. Think of it
this way, if you install Windows XP mode in Windows 7, and when
you go into Windows XP and install anything, it shows up in the
Windows 7 start menu so it's relatively easy to launch; although
the catch is that I think XP mode is not available for the home
editions of Windows 7, except for Windows 7 Ultimate.
From my tests in the past, NVDA does work under XP mode.

In response to a message earlier, yes, free/open source software
stopped supporting old versions of Windows later than paid ones,
but eventually old versions of Windows will not be supported.
Take Firefox, Mozilla stopped supporting Windows 2000 I think a
year or 2-3 years after Windows
2000
became unsupported by Microsoft.






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--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org

--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
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--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org


Re: Is any release prior to the latest stable release, and thenext RC release, officially supported? #NVDARelease

 

i wish that use xp forever!
for its simplicity, less system resource, familiar menus and options
and even because of my beliefs and faith!

On 12/8/16, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
XP isn't more stable than later versions of Windows. Instability is caused
by problems such as driver incompatibility, hardware problems, and other
reasons I don't have enough technical knowledge to discuss. But there is a
misconception that you often hear that XP is more stable.

gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Arlene
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 4:21 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is any release prior to the latest stable release, and
thenext RC release, officially supported? #NVDARelease


Hi, Is xp your favorite version of windows? If it is. all the world to you.
If you like playing games on it. Especially ones that are geared for the
blind. All the world to you. From what I heard, other blind computer users
said xp was more stable.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of nasrin
khaksar
Sent: December-07-16 12:44 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is any release prior to the latest stable release, and
thenext RC release, officially supported? #NVDARelease

hi quentin.
thanks extremely for your kindness and sympathy with me as always and thanks
extremely for your guide and great news about continuation of support for my
favorite windows!

On 12/7/16, nasrin khaksar <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com> wrote:
hi david.
i tried uninstalled and reinstallation of nvda and also potplayer and
nothing has change.
and also, i wrote narrator with the correct spelling narrator!

On 12/7/16, nasrin khaksar <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com> wrote:
hi travis.
i am completely agree with you.
thanks so much for your comment.

On 12/7/16, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
I am very skeptical that uninstalling and reinstalling NVDA will help.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: David
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2016 7:38 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is any release prior to the latest stable
release, and thenext RC release, officially supported? #NVDARelease


OK, sorry I don't know much other than this to try. Long as you
spelled the narrator phrase correctly, which I am sure you have
double-checked, and your Windows do not start the service.


One last resort that comes to mind, have you ever considered
reinstalling NVDA? I would think thare might be a way to back up all
your NVDA settings, to something like a USB pen. Then completely
remove the screen reader from your system. Redownload a fresh copy,
and install NVDA all from scrach. Reboot, and perform your testing
in the software of your choice.


Something might have got broken in your installation of NVDA. And
you might have incidentially changed a setting somewhere. So if you
have never done a reinstallation, you hereby are encouraged.


Apart from that, I am out of ideas. Hope someone else will help you
out.


David

On 12/6/2016 6:52 PM, nasrin khaksar wrote:
david,
i dont open two screen reader simultaneously.
i only installed both and when openning one, closed another and it
was not compatible for my system.
and about narrator, i am completely sure that dont have it.
i wrote it in the run and the run window became closed without any
error!

On 12/6/16, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@gmail.com> wrote:
I think Microsoft stopped support for windows XP in 2014 if I'm
not mistaken.




On 12/6/2016 7:01 AM, nasrin khaksar wrote:
antony, do you know the last version of nvda which supports xp?
whats the last version that i can use?
i realy wish that its be possible supporting of xp forever.

On 12/6/16, Supanut Leepaisomboon <supanut2000@outlook.com> wrote:
Well, you get to enjoy the benefits of both OSes. Think of it
this way, if you install Windows XP mode in Windows 7, and when
you go into Windows XP and install anything, it shows up in the
Windows 7 start menu so it's relatively easy to launch; although
the catch is that I think XP mode is not available for the home
editions of Windows 7, except for Windows 7 Ultimate.
From my tests in the past, NVDA does work under XP mode.

In response to a message earlier, yes, free/open source software
stopped supporting old versions of Windows later than paid ones,
but eventually old versions of Windows will not be supported.
Take Firefox, Mozilla stopped supporting Windows 2000 I think a
year or 2-3 years after Windows
2000
became unsupported by Microsoft.






--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org

--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org

--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages al-islam.org






--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org


Re: Is any release prior to the latest stable release, and thenext RC release, officially supported? #NVDARelease

 

hello gene.
windows 7 32 bit needs at least 1 gb of ram,
but windows xp only needs 64 mb of ram with 233 gh processors!

On 12/8/16, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, Arleen,

I liked XP when it was out but when I got my windows 7 computer, I loved
typing things I wanted in the search box. If I wanted to go to wordpad, all
I had to do was hit the windows key, type wordpad in the search box and hit
enter--and bingo! There it was. It was a pain in the neck always having to
arrow to programs in XP. Glad I don't have to do that anymore.

Rosemarie

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2016 8:09 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is any release prior to the latest stable release, and
thenext RC release, officially supported? #NVDARelease

Me too. The thing I love about 7 is this. You can go to the start menue and
type in whatever you want. Like your control panel. Then your computer
takes you to it! While xp you had to arrow to get to it! I don’t miss it
either. Liked it in its day. I do agree. It needed to be formatted
depending on what kind of computer you had. My first xp box had to go to a
sighted user. Jaws was taking up loads of resources. When I tried to
launch IE it hung. But eventually it went on to IE I was glad to see it go.
then my friend gave me her xp box. Not much longer after I got my 7 box
witch I'm on now died. The hard drive in that xp box gave up the ghost.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lenron
Sent: December-07-16 4:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is any release prior to the latest stable release, and
thenext RC release, officially supported? #NVDARelease

xp sucked to me and I don't miss it. Would rather use 10 or 7 anyday.

On 12/7/16, Rob <captinlogic@gmail.com> wrote:
Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
XP isn't more stable than later versions of Windows.
It is less resource hungry than later versions of windows. Every time,
for example, I tried to run windows 7 on anything less than 4 gb, I
constantly got out of memory messages. XP, however, hummed along just fine
on 1 gb.




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--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org