Date   

testing to see if goes through

Richard Kuzma
 

Testing

 


Re: FW: DTP Software

jordy deweer <webmaster_deweer@...>
 

Hi Jacob,

It isn’t the purpose to use CSS for books, and other, non-webfiles!

But, do you know any way to be sure of the working of a CSS sheet?

I mean, when I make a CSS-file, I cannot see it because I am blind! Do you know a solution to this without a sighted person?

Thanks for your tip and your aswer.

Regards, Jordy

 

Van: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] Namens Jacob Kruger
Verzonden: woensdag 6 juli 2016 21:41
Aan: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Onderwerp: Re: [nvda] FW: DTP Software

 

Hi there

 

Closest would come, myself, and, based on that your message sender name is webmaster... I would suggest just using CSS style sheeting, inside a webpage?

 

And, I say this since have no idea about any actual DTP software, but, am a backend web-developer myself...<smile>

 

Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, July 6, 2016 5:49 PM

Subject: [nvda] FW: DTP Software

 

Hello

Because I didn’t received an answer to my earlier question and I do not know if it is sent to the group, I resend it here!

So, view the mail below, please!

Thanks in advance!

--Jordy D

 

Van: Webmaster Deweer [mailto:webmaster_deweer@...]
Verzonden: maandag 4 juli 2016 20:59
Aan: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Onderwerp: DTP Software

 

Hello everybody,

The following is a non-NVDA question, but I don’t know where to ask this other!

But does anybody knows a good, and of course, (fully) accessible Desktop Publishing package, e.g. Scribus, Publisher,…

Thanks in advance!

Greetings, Jordy


Re: FW: DTP Software

Jacob Kruger
 

Hi there
 
Closest would come, myself, and, based on that your message sender name is webmaster... I would suggest just using CSS style sheeting, inside a webpage?
 
And, I say this since have no idea about any actual DTP software, but, am a backend web-developer myself...<smile>
 
Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, July 6, 2016 5:49 PM
Subject: [nvda] FW: DTP Software

Hello

Because I didn’t received an answer to my earlier question and I do not know if it is sent to the group, I resend it here!

So, view the mail below, please!

Thanks in advance!

--Jordy D

 

Van: Webmaster Deweer [mailto:webmaster_deweer@...]
Verzonden: maandag 4 juli 2016 20:59
Aan: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Onderwerp: DTP Software

 

Hello everybody,

The following is a non-NVDA question, but I don’t know where to ask this other!

But does anybody knows a good, and of course, (fully) accessible Desktop Publishing package, e.g. Scribus, Publisher,…

Thanks in advance!

Greetings, Jordy


Re: NVDA and powershell

John J. Boyer
 

Yes. I had Braille tethered. That is how I discovered that there was a
problem.

On Wed, Jul 06, 2016 at 09:39:42AM -0700, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Have you tried braille tethered to review cursor (Control+NVDA+T)?
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of John J.
Boyer
Sent: Wednesday, July 6, 2016 8:50 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and powershell

When I try to use Powershell I get a couple of blank lines going up from the
prompt, then there is a line that says d-r Moving up further produces the
same. I think this is an area where NVDA needs work.

John

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Mission: To develop softwares and provide STEM services for people with
disabilities which are available at no cost.





--
John J. Boyer; President,
AbilitiesSoft, Inc.
Email: john.boyer@abilitiessoft.org
Website: http://www.abilitiessoft.org
Status: 501(C)(3) Nonprofit
Location: Madison, Wisconsin USA
Mission: To develop softwares and provide STEM services for people with
disabilities which are available at no cost.


Re: NVDA and powershell

 

Hi,
Have you tried braille tethered to review cursor (Control+NVDA+T)?
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of John J.
Boyer
Sent: Wednesday, July 6, 2016 8:50 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and powershell

When I try to use Powershell I get a couple of blank lines going up from the
prompt, then there is a line that says d-r Moving up further produces the
same. I think this is an area where NVDA needs work.

John

--
John J. Boyer; President,
AbilitiesSoft, Inc.
Email: john.boyer@abilitiessoft.org
Website: http://www.abilitiessoft.org
Status: 501(C)(3) Nonprofit
Location: Madison, Wisconsin USA
Mission: To develop softwares and provide STEM services for people with
disabilities which are available at no cost.


Re: Windows update doesn't work

 

It might be speaking of drivers.

On 7/6/2016 12:37 PM, Arnþór Helgason wrote:
Thanks for your replies.

I am running Windows 10 on an Aser labtop, bought in 2014.
The upgrading to Windows 10 went on quite smoothly. When I run Windows
upgrade assistant the following messages appear:

Windows 10 will not run on this PC
Here is why Windows 10 can't be installed:
CPU : OK
Memory : OK
Disk space : OK
Display : The display is not compatible with Windows 10. Check with
the manufacturer for support.
OK
Shop for new PCs online
Support
Best regards,

Arnthor




Re: Windows update doesn't work

Arnþór Helgason
 

Thanks for your replies.

I am running Windows 10 on an Aser labtop, bought in 2014.
The upgrading to Windows 10 went on quite smoothly. When I run Windows upgrade assistant the following messages appear:

Windows 10 will not run on this PC
Here is why Windows 10 can't be installed:
CPU : OK
Memory : OK
Disk space : OK
Display : The display is not compatible with Windows 10. Check with the manufacturer for support.
OK
Shop for new PCs online
Support
Best regards,

Arnthor


NVDA and powershell

John J. Boyer
 

When I try to use Powershell I get a couple of blank lines going up from
the prompt, then there is a line that says d-r Moving up further
produces the same. I think this is an area where NVDA needs work.

John

--
John J. Boyer; President,
AbilitiesSoft, Inc.
Email: john.boyer@abilitiessoft.org
Website: http://www.abilitiessoft.org
Status: 501(C)(3) Nonprofit
Location: Madison, Wisconsin USA
Mission: To develop softwares and provide STEM services for people with
disabilities which are available at no cost.


FW: DTP Software

jordy deweer <webmaster_deweer@...>
 

Hello

Because I didn’t received an answer to my earlier question and I do not know if it is sent to the group, I resend it here!

So, view the mail below, please!

Thanks in advance!

--Jordy D

 

Van: Webmaster Deweer [mailto:webmaster_deweer@...]
Verzonden: maandag 4 juli 2016 20:59
Aan: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Onderwerp: DTP Software

 

Hello everybody,

The following is a non-NVDA question, but I don’t know where to ask this other!

But does anybody knows a good, and of course, (fully) accessible Desktop Publishing package, e.g. Scribus, Publisher,…

Thanks in advance!

Greetings, Jordy


FW: DTP Software

jordy deweer <webmaster_deweer@...>
 

Hello

Because I didn’t received an answer to my earlier question and I do not know if it is sent to the group, I resend it here!

So, view the mail below, please!

Thanks in advance!

--Jordy D

 

Van: Webmaster Deweer [mailto:webmaster_deweer@...]
Verzonden: maandag 4 juli 2016 20:59
Aan: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Onderwerp: DTP Software

 

Hello everybody,

The following is a non-NVDA question, but I don’t know where to ask this other!

But does anybody knows a good, and of course, (fully) accessible Desktop Publishing package, e.g. Scribus, Publisher,…

Thanks in advance!

Greetings, Jordy


Re: laptop layout

David Mehler
 

Hello,

Thank you. Yes I have enabled the caps lock as an NVDA modifier.

Thanks.
Dave.

On 7/6/16, Chris Mullins <cjmullins29@gmail.com> wrote:
Have you enabled the capslock key as an additional NVDA key? It should make
the pageup/down keystroke more comfortable.

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David
Mehler
Sent: 06 July 2016 06:43
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] laptop layout

Hello,

Thank you. For me I have read the manual, I do better with audio learning
like a podcast or something.

Thanks for the information.

My issue is the NVDA+ page up or down, not an easy key sequence on my
keyboard.

Suggestion has been made to get a bluetooth external fullsized keyboard, I
don't like this option as it's one more thing to carry.

Thanks.
Dave.


On 7/5/16, Sukil Etxenike via Groups.io <sukiletxe=yahoo.es@groups.io>
wrote:
Hi,

Have you read the manual? I don't have any problem remembering the
laptop layout. Just NVDA + arrows (combined with ctrl and / or shift),
plus NVDA + Enter and NVDA + PageUp or NVDA + PageDown should get you
going. To use the mouse use NVDA + M or NVDA + Shift + M, and to click
use NVDA + brackets combined with CTRL or Shift.

Regards,

Sukil



El 05/07/2016 a las 9:24, Brian's Mail list account escribió:
Yes its called an external keyboard I think. I could not get my head
around the concert pianist structure either.
Brian

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briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
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----- Original Message ----- From: "David Mehler"
<dave.mehler@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 6:38 PM
Subject: [nvda] laptop layout


Hello,

I'm using the latest NVDA 2016 on a development laptop. This machine
does not have a keypad. I've gone over the manual for laptop layout
with regards object navigation and screen review, I am just not
getting it.

Does anyone have any pointers? Things that'll stick in the memory?

Thanks.
Dave.













Re: Windows update doesn't work

Brian's Mail list account BY <bglists@...>
 

Not really, but see my message about not permanently connected machines. This seems to cause issues in 7 8 and 10.

Often these issues are only advisory, but just sometimes it makes the system unstable and it restarts.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Arnþór Helgason" <arnthor.helgason@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2016 10:39 AM
Subject: [nvda] Windows update doesn't work


Recently I have been told on 2 occasions that my Aser Labtop isn't running the most recent and safe Windows 10 and I should update.
When I accepted updating there was a message on the screen that Windows didn't do the work as the display wasn't compatible.
Then there was a list of other items which were ok.
At last the following message appeared: Windows 10 is now running on your mashine.

Is this something to worri about?

Best regards,

Arnthor Helgason
arnthor.helgason@gmail.com



Five to seven favorite metro apps

David Mehler
 

Hello Everyone,

I've got an unexpected opportunity to do some training. One of the
avenues will be NVDA and Windows 10. This is from a newbie perspective
to both NVDA and to Windows 10. What I'd like to know and this is to
those of you who use Universal apps, also known as Metro apps, I'd
like to know your Five to seven favorite (most accessible can not live
without them), metro apps. I'd also like to know the opposite of that,
three metro apps you'd love to use, but they are just not accessible.

Thanks.
Dave.


Re: Windows update doesn't work

Brian's Mail list account BY <bglists@...>
 

Yes me too, one of the biggest issues with windows seems to be on a machine which is not always on the internet, ie has no network or dongle or whatever.
I find that since a lot of updates like anti virus and monthly updates happen in the background one can get into a position where the machine resets for no apparent reason randomly. The only fix I've found for this was to take it to a permanent location with a connection and let it sort itself out, can take a day or so for it to stabilise. In the old days of XP it was relatively easy to stop everything trying to update itslef, but since more recent versions I've noticed that this is not so easy at all, and with third party programs things get a whole lot worse.
Unfortunately due to the nature of where the machine is used, the internet cannot be allowed to do as it likes as its charged by the gig, and its a charity paying the bills!
Nobody seems to have thought about this problem very much.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Shaun Everiss" <sm.everiss@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2016 8:30 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows update doesn't work


Probably not, I do wander if some of this stuff is just windows saying it can't, however it may try to find a solution anyway windows usually can do this on its own.
You may need to get drivers or bios updates from asia or whatever depends on the age.
I have never seen windows quit unless it simply can't.
If it says it doesn't work but then does chances are its earching its databases and trying to get it to work.

It obviously found what it needed.
While windows has a lot of itself on your system, it doesn't get everything so I have seen errors about accounts not recognised or system being corrupted or not responding only to have the system pop back online later on I just have to wait.



On 5/07/2016 9:39 p.m., Arnþór Helgason wrote:
Recently I have been told on 2 occasions that my Aser Labtop isn't
running the most recent and safe Windows 10 and I should update.
When I accepted updating there was a message on the screen that Windows
didn't do the work as the display wasn't compatible.
Then there was a list of other items which were ok.
At last the following message appeared: Windows 10 is now running on
your mashine.

Is this something to worri about?

Best regards,

Arnthor Helgason
arnthor.helgason@gmail.com



.


Re: laptop layout

Chris Mullins
 

Have you enabled the capslock key as an additional NVDA key? It should make the pageup/down keystroke more comfortable.

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Mehler
Sent: 06 July 2016 06:43
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] laptop layout

Hello,

Thank you. For me I have read the manual, I do better with audio learning like a podcast or something.

Thanks for the information.

My issue is the NVDA+ page up or down, not an easy key sequence on my keyboard.

Suggestion has been made to get a bluetooth external fullsized keyboard, I don't like this option as it's one more thing to carry.

Thanks.
Dave.


On 7/5/16, Sukil Etxenike via Groups.io <sukiletxe=yahoo.es@groups.io> wrote:
Hi,

Have you read the manual? I don't have any problem remembering the
laptop layout. Just NVDA + arrows (combined with ctrl and / or shift),
plus NVDA + Enter and NVDA + PageUp or NVDA + PageDown should get you
going. To use the mouse use NVDA + M or NVDA + Shift + M, and to click
use NVDA + brackets combined with CTRL or Shift.

Regards,

Sukil



El 05/07/2016 a las 9:24, Brian's Mail list account escribió:
Yes its called an external keyboard I think. I could not get my head
around the concert pianist structure either.
Brian

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Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
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----- Original Message ----- From: "David Mehler"
<dave.mehler@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 6:38 PM
Subject: [nvda] laptop layout


Hello,

I'm using the latest NVDA 2016 on a development laptop. This machine
does not have a keypad. I've gone over the manual for laptop layout
with regards object navigation and screen review, I am just not
getting it.

Does anyone have any pointers? Things that'll stick in the memory?

Thanks.
Dave.








Re: about installing Iven3 in sapi5 version of espeak:

Sukil Etxenike <sukiletxe@...>
 

Hi,

You can't do it without copying it. Wait until Espeak-NG gets updated and supports Windows.

Thanks,
Sukil

El 06/07/2016 a las 6:46, nasrin khaksar escribió:
hi.
i did the steps that you mentioned, but i want to a direct code of
installing iven3 not copying it from nvda to espeak.

On 7/6/16, Sukil Etxenike via Groups.io <sukiletxe=yahoo.es@groups.io> wrote:
Hi,

Did you do all the steps I told you, or just reran the installer?

Sukil



El 05/07/2016 a las 8:09, nasrin khaksar escribió:
hi.
thanks for your reply.
but in this way which i tested, its quality is robotic.
do you know the way that i install it directly like other voices?
for example: during installation, i type m7 for mail seven plus my
desired language and its installed without any problem.
i need a direct code to use while installing like mails and femails.

On 7/5/16, Sukil Etxenike via Groups.io <sukiletxe=yahoo.es@groups.io>
wrote:
Hi nasrin,,

You could try to do the following: go to your NVDA directory (C:\Program
files (x86)\NVDA), and go to the espeak's variants folder
(synthDrivers\Espeak-data\Voices\!v) and copy the iven3 file to the
folderr you installed espeak into (probably C:\Program Files
(x86)\Espeak\espeak

Then, rerun the eSpeak installer and select the iven3 voice during
installation.

Hope this helps,

Sukil



El 04/07/2016 a las 16:42, nasrin khaksar escribió:

hi every one.
the best voice in nvda for me is iven3.
its very friendly, beautiful, lovely and natural.
when i installed espeak sapi5 version, unfortunately it does not have
and i dont know its code.
someone suggested me to use i3 when i want to enter a code and after
installation, i copy iven3 from nvda in to espeak.
i tested this method and the quality was not very great and it was a
little robotic.
i want the exact code for installing iven3 in to espeak.
i am shure that espeak sapi5 version, should have all the voices,
because nvda uses espeak, and its very far that this great voice is
only in nvda and not espeak!
i realy appreciate your help, because i only love this voice.
its a very critical problem for me, i realy need only this voice in
espeak sapi5 with its great quality.
thanks again and god bless you.




Re: Can this be done with NVDA like WebAnywhere (All OSs, Web browsers),10-Free-Software-For-Visually-Impaired-Blind-Users-WebAnywhere,WebAnywhere is a web-based screen reader for the web. It requires no special software to be installed on the client machi...

Quentin Christensen
 

You can have a portable copy of NVDA on a memory stick and use it on
any computer. NVDA doesn't need admin privileges to run like other
screen readers.

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On 6 July 2016 at 17:31, Gene New Zealand
<hurrikennyandopo@outlook.co.nz> wrote:
hi guys


A while ago I had come across web any where and did not give it much
thought after that. But it got me to thinking could some thing like this
be done with NVDA? Where you could type in a web address and once it is
there NVDA will start up and you could use it like normal from any where
in the world. Would this then give us access to any pc that is connected
to the web?

Even though most computers are usually locked down and if there is no
adaptive technology on that machine it can not be used by some one like us.

I think SA2go does the same sort of idea as well.


so would this get around access problems all over the world?


The following link will give a little more info about it at
http://webanywhere.cs.washington.edu/content.php


I was trying to see if i could do some thing like that off my website
just to see if it can be done or would it be done a different way. I was
just thinking if the same sort of concept could be used with NVDA like
web any where or SA2go?


Gene nz



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NVDA and pizza sites

David Mehler
 

Hello,

My apologies if this is a repeat message. I sent t his to another list
and didn't get very much.

Is anyone using NVDA with online food ordering sites? In particular
online pizza ordering sites, dominos.com and pizzahut.com? I'm
particularly wanting to do custom ordering, but this really doesn't
work.

Thanks.
Dave.


Another possible browser alternative, vivaldi

Jacob Kruger
 

Seems this browser uses something like some of chrome's elements to render actual web content, and just gave it a very quick try, but, the main reason is since, according the wired.com review came across of it, it's highly customisable in terms of most of it's interface - haven't had a chance to try too much of that as of yet, but, yes, could browse the 'net with it, and, while don't know many keyboard shortcuts - think you can also customise them, it seems usable:
 
Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."


Can this be done with NVDA like WebAnywhere (All OSs, Web browsers),10-Free-Software-For-Visually-Impaired-Blind-Users-WebAnywhere,WebAnywhere is a web-based screen reader for the web. It requires no special software to be installed on the client machi...

Kenny Dog <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

hi guys


A while ago I had come across web any where and did not give it much
thought after that. But it got me to thinking could some thing like this
be done with NVDA? Where you could type in a web address and once it is
there NVDA will start up and you could use it like normal from any where
in the world. Would this then give us access to any pc that is connected
to the web?

Even though most computers are usually locked down and if there is no
adaptive technology on that machine it can not be used by some one like us.

I think SA2go does the same sort of idea as well.


so would this get around access problems all over the world?


The following link will give a little more info about it at
http://webanywhere.cs.washington.edu/content.php


I was trying to see if i could do some thing like that off my website
just to see if it can be done or would it be done a different way. I was
just thinking if the same sort of concept could be used with NVDA like
web any where or SA2go?


Gene nz



--
Check out my website for nvda tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net