Hi Dan,

Well, I had to do the same thing on Thursday.

You are correct that NVDA reads the beginning of the recovery wizard.

You can accessibly get to the recovery wizard and go through the steps to point where you start the recovery process thereafter, NVDA only reads the Cancel button.  Using Objective Nav or any other methods does not read anything on the screen.  Even when dialogs come up, they are not read.

When doing my recovery disk, I was asked to insert a 16GB memory stick which I did but, this was insufficient.  I got an error and had to get sighted assistance to realise that a dialog was on the screen.

Once I ran through the process once more, I inserted a 32 GB memory stick, the process completed but, NVDA did not read the success message and I had to use object nav to eventually find the “finish” button to dismiss the dialog. This is not accessible.

Thanks.

I decided I needed to create a fresh recovery drive.  I discovered that NVDA speaks the buttons but nothing else.  Has anyone else seen this?  Is this an NVDA issue or a windows system issue?

Thanks.

-- 

Dan Beaver (KA4DAN)

Good you got it fixed. What a pain in the but you had to get a
sighted person to help you get it out of safe mode. I wished Microsoft
created some sort of talking softwear to get us out. That's if you
can't get a sighted person to help. If you live with one or have
access to someone who can help. Great. Some of us blind folk may not
be as fortunate to have a sighted person near.

Good you got it fixed. What a pain in the but you had to get a
sighted person to help you get it out of safe mode. I wished Microsoft
created some sort of talking softwear to get us out. That's if you
can't get a sighted person to help. If you live with one or have
access to someone who can help. Great. Some of us blind folk may not
be as fortunate to have a sighted person near.

Good you got it fixed. What a pain in the but you had to get a
sighted person to help you get it out of safe mode. I wished Microsoft
created some sort of talking softwear to get us out. That's if you
can't get a sighted person to help. If you live with one or have
access to someone who can help. Great. Some of us blind folk may not
be as fortunate to have a sighted person near.

Good you got it fixed. What a pain in the but you had to get a
sighted person to help you get it out of safe mode. I wished Microsoft
created some sort of talking softwear to get us out. That's if you
can't get a sighted person to help. If you live with one or have
access to someone who can help. Great. Some of us blind folk may not
be as fortunate to have a sighted person near.

Good you got it fixed. What a pain in the but you had to get a
sighted person to help you get it out of safe mode. I wished Microsoft
created some sort of talking softwear to get us out. That's if you
can't get a sighted person to help. If you live with one or have
access to someone who can help. Great. Some of us blind folk may not
be as fortunate to have a sighted person near.

Good you got it fixed. What a pain in the but you had to get a
sighted person to help you get it out of safe mode. I wished Microsoft
created some sort of talking softwear to get us out. That's if you can't
get a sighted person to help. If you live with one or have access to someone
who can help. Great. Some of us blind folk may not be as fortunate to have a
sighted person near.

Good you got it fixed. What a pain in the but you had to get a
sighted person to help you get it out of safe mode. I wished Microsoft
created some sort of talking softwear to get us out. That’s if you can’t get a sighted person to help. If you live with one or have access to someone who can help. Great. Some of us blind folk may not be as fortunate to have a sighted person near.

Hi,


I'm dealing with the same thing. I've had to deal with some stuff and
haven't talked to the folks at Microsoft about it yet. However, they may
be able to help things out.


Tony

On 5/8/2020 5:24 AM, Gerry wrote:

Hi, this is my first post and it is a great list

On Friday 26th April my Win10 laptop was updated automatically. When
the system re-started my NVDA voice had been replaced by Hazel.  On
investigation I had lost all voices except Hazel, listed  under
Microsoft API version 5 and George, listed under Windows one core
voices. The voice I had lost was male, possibly David, but I had not
needed to look at this for years. I much prefer the voice I lost.

   At the time I was running nvda Feb 19, so I updated to March 19.
This made no difference. Next I reverted to original configuration.
This did make a difference. I now had the following settings.

Synthesisors, E speak ng, Microsoft API version 5, Windows one core

In Microsoft API 5 I have only Microsoft zero Desk top United States
and Microsoft Hazel English UK.

In Windows one core voices I have, George, Susan and Hazel.

As I don't like any of these voices, I need to find a way to obtain a
voice I like.


My questions

1 Was the MS update unusual this time as I have never experienced this
situation before?

2    What synthesisers and voices come as standard with nvda?

3    Would an un-install and re-install fix my problem? I have not
tried this as I would need sighted help.

4    I followed the recent  thread on Code factory and Tiflow and
wonder if I should go to one of these ?

5 How can I download the latest User Manual?

Any advice on these issues would be gratefully received.

with thanks

Gerry

Hi, this is my first post and it is a great list

On Friday 26th April my Win10 laptop was updated automatically. When the system re-started my NVDA voice had been replaced by Hazel.  On investigation I had lost all voices except Hazel, listed  under Microsoft API version 5 and George, listed under Windows one core voices. The voice I had lost was male, possibly David, but I had not needed to look at this for years. I much prefer the voice I lost.

   At the time I was running nvda Feb 19, so I updated to March 19. This made no difference. Next I reverted to original configuration. This did make a difference. I now had the following settings.

Synthesisors, E speak ng, Microsoft API version 5, Windows one core

In Microsoft API 5 I have only Microsoft zero Desk top United States and Microsoft Hazel English UK.

In Windows one core voices I have, George, Susan and Hazel.

As I don't like any of these voices, I need to find a way to obtain a voice I like.


My questions

1 Was the MS update unusual this time as I have never experienced this situation before?

2    What synthesisers and voices come as standard with nvda?

3    Would an un-install and re-install fix my problem? I have not tried this as I would need sighted help.

4    I followed the recent  thread on Code factory and Tiflow and wonder if I should go to one of these ?

5 How can I download the latest User Manual?

Any advice on these issues would be gratefully received.

with thanks

Gerry

Good morning everyone,

 

I hope I’m wrong, but it seems to me that NVDA doesn’t like Torrent clients, or rather, Torrent clients don’t like NVDA. I’m in desperate need of an accessible, configurable Torrent client. In my experience so far, BitTorrent and UTorrent have inaccessible installers so I can’t even try them. I also played with qBittorrent, Tixati, PicoTorrent, BiglyBT, Halite And Transmission. Some are totally inaccessible, others don’t allow me to change any default settings. I admit I’m running out of ideas. If anybody had better experiences, would he/she kindly share them with me. I’d be very grateful and happy to receive a bit of help/advice. It would be so much better to use torrents instead of direct downloads, especially for Linux distributions or on sites like archive.org.

 

Many thanks in advance, and warm regards.

 

Vlad.

Hi,

 

One way I have used in the past is to use a registry entry hack to have your sound drivers come up in “safe mode”.  When I had to then go in to “safe mode” I could use NVDA. I have not tested this on Windows 10 yet.

 

Thanks.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Saturday, 09 May 2020 04:59
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA won't install on win10

 

Good you got it fixed.  What a pain in the but you had to get a sighted person to help you get it out of safe mode. I wished Microsoft created some sort of talking softwear  to get us out. That’s if you can’t get a sighted person to help. If you live with one or have access to someone who can help. Great. Some of us blind folk may not be as fortunate to have a sighted person near. 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: David Mehler
Sent: May 8, 2020 5:16 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA won't install on win10

 

Hello Everyone,

 

Thanks to all who offered suggestions. I got the machine fixed. It was

in s mode, the narrator on it wasn't speaking well at all so I

borrowed a pair of eyes, got it out of s mode, and then was able to do

an NVDA install. After that an update from 1803 to 1909 and the

machine was humming along much better.

Again thanks.

Dave.

 

 

On 5/8/20, Richard Wells <richwels@...> wrote:

> Your Windows 10 machine is in what is called S Mode. You will need to go

> to the Windows App Store to change this.

> https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4456067/windows-10-switch-out-of-s-mode

> 

> On 5/8/2020 2:56 PM, David Mehler wrote:

>> Hello,

>> 

>> I've got a win10 1803 laptop that is not accepting me trying to run

>> NVDA portable from a thumb drive, keeps saying I can only install apps

>> from the microsoft store, I have never seen a setting that will not

>> allow an NVDA install. How do I fix this?

>> 

>> Thanks.

>> Dave.

>> 

>> 

>> 

> 

>

> 

> 

 

 

 

Hi there! I was wondering if anyone knew of a way to tell NVDA to stop processing commands for a time, similar to the "pass next key through" command. When using an application/ widget that has heavy keyboard accessibility, NVDA's commands really hinder the use of the application, and having to press NVDA+F2 between each and every keystroke would make - say - a game using its own keyboard commands practically unplayable. I thought perhaps the "application sleep mode" was what I needed, but not only does the command listed on the reference do absolutely nothing for me, it apparently stops the speech synthesis as well, which I don't want.

What I'm looking for is a key stroke that tells NVDA to start ignoring/passing keys until that same keystroke is entered again, or something to that effect.

Searching for this has yielded nothing helpful because any way I phrase the question, I simply get linked back to the user guide or commands quick reference, which so far as I've seen, doesn't have any solution. Is there perhaps an addon that would allow this, or have I missed something in NVDA's main feature set?

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!

Good you got it fixed.  What a pain in the but you had to get a sighted person to help you get it out of safe mode. I wished Microsoft created some sort of talking softwear  to get us out. That’s if you can’t get a sighted person to help. If you live with one or have access to someone who can help. Great. Some of us blind folk may not be as fortunate to have a sighted person near. 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

Hello Everyone,

Thanks to all who offered suggestions. I got the machine fixed. It was

in s mode, the narrator on it wasn't speaking well at all so I

borrowed a pair of eyes, got it out of s mode, and then was able to do

an NVDA install. After that an update from 1803 to 1909 and the

machine was humming along much better.

Again thanks.

Dave.

On 5/8/20, Richard Wells <richwels@...> wrote:

> Your Windows 10 machine is in what is called S Mode. You will need to go

> to the Windows App Store to change this.

> https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4456067/windows-10-switch-out-of-s-mode

> 

> On 5/8/2020 2:56 PM, David Mehler wrote:

>> Hello,

>> 

>> I've got a win10 1803 laptop that is not accepting me trying to run

>> NVDA portable from a thumb drive, keeps saying I can only install apps

>> from the microsoft store, I have never seen a setting that will not

>> allow an NVDA install. How do I fix this?

>> 

>> Thanks.

>> Dave.

>> 

>> 

>> 

> 

>

> 

> 

I decided I needed to create a fresh recovery drive.  I discovered that NVDA speaks the buttons but nothing else.  Has anyone else seen this?  Is this an NVDA issue or a windows system issue?

Thanks.

-- 

Dan Beaver (KA4DAN)

I am not the original poster, but maybe you are getting an access denied error because it needs to be ran as an administrator. I would suggest running command prompt or power shell as an administrator then run the server from their. If you are running Windows 10, do the folloing to run power shell as an administrator:
Press Windows key and the letter x at the same time.
Down arrow to power shell admin.
press Enter.
Press alt y when the user access control box comes up.

On May 8, 2020, at 4:49 PM, seb naudet <sebnaudet@hotmail.com> wrote:

 Hello,

thank you, do i need to install pithon or something else?

i've tried to start the service with the command :

NVDARemoteServer start

it says starting service and error access denied.

there is two folders for 64 version, which one do i choose?

few more infos would be very helpfull to start :)


best regards

Le 08/05/2020 à 21:53, Ralf Kefferpuetz a écrit :
https://www.dropbox.com/s/7ubtwx5elgfta2y/NVDA_Remote_Servers.zip?dl=0
I think I got them from github end of last year including the compiled versions.

Cheers,
Ralf

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of seb naudet
Sent: Freitag, 8. Mai 2020 21:12
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Remote Relay server

Hello list,

i'd like to run my own relay server, does someone know where to find a compiled one for windows?

i've been to the GitHub page of remote relay server, but, if possible, i'd prefer to avoid compiling step.

any idea where to find the server and a simple guide?


thank you








.

.

On Thu, May 7, 2020 at 08:13 PM, Bob Jutzi wrote:

I'm not sure what's being referred to as I'm using the most recent Insider preview 19624 and there still is the accessible option of creating a recovery drive.  Quickest way to find it is entering Recovery in the search box and the Create a Recovery drive option is displayed.

The Recovery drive is nothing more than a tool for restoring a backup, and unless you have a version (not created directly by Windows) that uses Windows PE with a screen reader built-in, it's not accessible either.

For those that are also members of the JAWS for Windows Support Group there is a huge ongoing conversation occurring there about this.

I feel, in certain ways, like I'm talking to walls over there.  There exist several "very geeky" options, which require using talking Windows PE, that are accessible, but are not simple to implement, if you wish to be able to do both ends of the process - system image backup and restore from a system image - with full accessibility.  And when I say "restore from a system image" I'm not talking about doing this from within Windows, as it is the rare case where one does a restore from within Windows.  I care about folks being able to do a recovery from a catastrophic failure, most typically the failure of your main system drive, and I have yet to see any reasonably easy utility that supports this.  Some are recommending Image For Windows, which I have never used.

I have written tutorials on taking backups using Macrium Reflect Free, which is an excellent utility, and which is 100% accessible for taking system image backups.  But it is not accessible for a system restore from a catastrophic failure (like virtually every thing else) because the bootable recovery environment is not Windows and does not include a screen reader.

My main concern is that people actually take full system image backups whether or not they can personally do a restore in the event of catastrophic failure or not.  Most of my sighted clients have no idea how to do a recovery (even if you teach them, unless you have the opportunity to practice - and heaven forbid you do - you forget) and have to call in assistance.

No matter what you may end up doing, it's far more critical to take system image backups so they are available for someone to recover using them, than it is to be able to actually do said recovery independently.  

Here's the tutorial on Macrium Reflect to create full system image backups:  Using Macrium Reflect Free with a Screen Reader

 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

Hello Everyone,

Thanks to all who offered suggestions. I got the machine fixed. It was

in s mode, the narrator on it wasn't speaking well at all so I

borrowed a pair of eyes, got it out of s mode, and then was able to do

an NVDA install. After that an update from 1803 to 1909 and the

machine was humming along much better.

Again thanks.

Dave.

On 5/8/20, Richard Wells <richwels@...> wrote:

> Your Windows 10 machine is in what is called S Mode. You will need to go

> to the Windows App Store to change this.

> https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4456067/windows-10-switch-out-of-s-mode

> 

> On 5/8/2020 2:56 PM, David Mehler wrote:

>> Hello,

>> 

>> I've got a win10 1803 laptop that is not accepting me trying to run

>> NVDA portable from a thumb drive, keeps saying I can only install apps

>> from the microsoft store, I have never seen a setting that will not

>> allow an NVDA install. How do I fix this?

>> 

>> Thanks.

>> Dave.

>> 

>> 

>> 

> 

>

> 

>