Date   
Re: the talk tonight

Scott VanDeWalle
 

Hello Bhavya.
I installed teamtalk just now.
It appears like i'm connected, well not at the exact moment as i write this but i did get into the rooms.
But, now since there is nobody there, how do i test my audio?
And those sliders for the microphone, is 0 or 100 the loudest.
I'm asking because sometimes programs i have run into can be different in that respect.
Talk to you later.

Scott

On 3/15/2016 6:48 AM, Bhavya shah wrote:
Hi Scott,
Well, do let us know in case you have some specific Teamtalk problems
or troubleshooting requirements, and the TT experts here may be able
to help you.
Just to note, you can communicate in the conference via text messages
as well as audio conversation. Text chats are always recognized and
read out by others. If microphone configuration with TT is an issue
for you, hope that may no longer need to be an impediment for
participation in NVDACon. :) smiles
Thanks.

On 3/15/16, Scott VanDeWalle <scottvandewalle2@...> wrote:
Hello, i plan to be there, if i can get team talk working on my system.
I tried before and it didn't work, so we'll see i guess.smile.

Scott

On 3/14/2016 9:56 PM, Bhavya shah wrote:
Hi Scott, Joseph and others,
It was great fun for me too to be a part of the recent Accessible
World Techtalk presentation, and am thankful to Joseph for the same.
Just like this recent Techtalk event related to NVDA, I would
encourage everyone to participate in this, and future events,
including the NVDACon International 2016, of course. Looking forward
to seeing you out there, Scott, and many others.
Thanks.

On 3/15/16, Scott VanDeWalle <scottvandewalle2@...> wrote:
Hello Joseph and all.
First of all I wanted to say thanks Joseph, that was fun to listen to.
I will have to reinstall the plugin though because I tried to talk and
it didn't work i think.
But, thanks again.
Maybe some day I'll actually get to talk to you all in voice during one
of these things.

I'm planning to be there during at least some of the nvda con sessions.
Sounds like it'll be fun.

Well, that is all for now.

Talk to you all later.

Scott V





Re: making group calls with skype

Jamie Pauls <jamiepauls@...>
 

I needed to uncheck the option in Skype that allows you to place a call as soon as you press enter on a contact's name. Assuming you have done this, press enter on a contact's name and tab to the call button. After the first call has been answered, move to the contact you wish to add to the call. After you press enter on the second person's name, you should be able to tab to a button that says "add to conversation" or something similar. You will know it when you hear it. There may be other ways to accomplish this, but I am not aware of them. Hope this helps.

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 15, 2016, at 4:42 PM, Governor staten <@Govsta> wrote:

I could use some assistance with this one. How do I go about setting up
group calls in Skype with NVDA?



Re: Accessibility in SumatraPDF

Mallard
 

Hello Juan,

I can recommend keeping at least a portable version of Sumatrapdf, which comes in really, really handy if you want to save a document as txt.

The menus are accessible. If you open a document, even if you can't read it straight away, you can save it as txt (in case you need to do so), and the result is the best I've had for this purpose. Much better than Foxit, which inserta lines with page numbers, that can be bothering; better than Adobe, which I haven't used for years, but didn't work as nicely as Sumatra...

Ciao, hth,
Ollie

Il 16/03/2016 00:46, juan gonzalez ha scritto:
thank you for your input. guess i have to stay with Adobe.

On 3/15/2016 3:44 PM, Mallard wrote:
Hello,

No, it doesn't.

In the old days, when the programme was first released, someone asked
about accessibility, but the dev said he didn't know anything about
accessibility, and didn't want to get involved. He said that, since
the software is open source, whoeer wanted to delve into that, could
do so...

Sumatra pdf doesn't have a text viewer, so no text can be read.

Pity, because it also reads epubs, amongst other things.

Hovever, i found that it does a great job saving pdf files to txt.
Of all these pdf reading programme, this is the one that "ruins" the
format least of all.

hth,
Ciao,
Ollie




Il 15/03/2016 20:33, juan gonzalez ha scritto:
does anybody know if this PDF program works with NVDA?



Re: Accessibility in SumatraPDF

Mallard
 

Hello,

Yes, I agree. We should involve someone who knows about programming and accessibilty, so that the programme could be made usable by the blind.

It is easy to use and, on top of it all, it's also got a portable version...

I'm ready and willing to join a petition to the devs to make the programme accessible.

I know nothing about programming, so I have no idea of what making the programme accessible would entail, but it would be great to have such a fast-loading, clean and easy-to-use tool available.

It also reads apubs, which would make it an even more valuable tool.

I repeat, I'm willing and rady to go for it, if a joint letter or petition is created and sent out to the devs.

alternatively, if there's anyone among us who knows enough about programming, and would be willing and able to make the software accessible (possibly even through an NVDA add-on),

Ok, there's the challenge... Who's picking it up? (smile).

Ciao,
Ollie

Il 16/03/2016 10:09, nasrin khaksar ha scritto:
hi.
thanks extremely for asking this questions. because i wished that
someone asked and i found the reply.
i realy wish to use sumatra.
because: its realy simple, open source, has persian translation and
use little system resources, fast, stable and its simpleness even for
novice people like me.
but adobe its very professional and with complex settings and i could
not tolerate it.
when i used adobe most of times, the program crashed, my system hanged
and i turned my system off only with the power botton in my laptop and
i did not have any way to prevent my system from these terrible hangs.
and i uninstalled it forever.

i wish that we united and send letter for its developers together and
request for its accessibility or take help from someone who knows
programming and is familiar with accessibility.
since this program is open source, we have many doors that we can open
them to benefit from this program and we should insist on to achieve
our legal goal.
moreover, i heard that this program its accessible for narrator.
hope for very fast solution.

On 3/16/16, juan gonzalez <jgonzalezh614@...> wrote:
thank you for your input. guess i have to stay with Adobe.

On 3/15/2016 3:44 PM, Mallard wrote:
Hello,

No, it doesn't.

In the old days, when the programme was first released, someone asked
about accessibility, but the dev said he didn't know anything about
accessibility, and didn't want to get involved. He said that, since
the software is open source, whoeer wanted to delve into that, could
do so...

Sumatra pdf doesn't have a text viewer, so no text can be read.

Pity, because it also reads epubs, amongst other things.

Hovever, i found that it does a great job saving pdf files to txt.
Of all these pdf reading programme, this is the one that "ruins" the
format least of all.

hth,
Ciao,
Ollie




Il 15/03/2016 20:33, juan gonzalez ha scritto:
does anybody know if this PDF program works with NVDA?





Re: [NVDA] NVDA with MS Excel

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Pranav,

 

I am actually running on a 64 bit machine and yet I am having this problem.

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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From: Pranav Lal [mailto:pranav.lal@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2016 1:49 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [NVDA] NVDA with MS Excel

 

Hi Cearbhall,

 

I am afraid not. The strange thing is that I can edit in cells in Excel 201 and 2016 but not in Excel 2010. Are you running 32 or 64 bit windows? If 32 bit, try Excel 2010 on a machine running 64bit windows. I find editing in cells works.

 

Pranav

 

 

From: Cearbhall O'Meadhra [mailto:cearbhall.omeadhra@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2016 4:04 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [NVDA] NVDA with MS Excel

 

Pranav,

 

I thought this had solved the problem last January but I was mistaken. Even with “allow editing directly in cells” and “hardware graphics acceleration” disabled in the advanced options I am still getting the floating balnked charcters as before.

 

I am running Excel 2010 under windows 10 with NVDA 2016.1

 

Any other suggestions?

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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From: nvda-bounce@... [mailto:nvda-bounce@...] On Behalf Of Pranav Lal
Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2016 3:08 AM
To:
nvda@...
Subject: [NVDA] Re: NVDA with MS Excel

 

Hi Chris,

 

I have experienced your issues with editing formulas in cells on my work laptop which is running windows 7 32bit and office 2013. However, I am on windows 10 on a 64 bit machine running excel 2016 and do not have this problem. I had similar experiences with windows 7 64bit that is, I was able to edit text in cells directly.

 

Try making the following changes.

1.       From the advanced tab, disable allow editing directly in cells.

2.       Disable hardware graphics acceleration  again in the advanced tab.

Pranav

 

From: nvda-bounce@... [mailto:nvda-bounce@...] On Behalf Of Chris Mullins
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 11:21 PM
To:
nvda@...
Subject: [NVDA] NVDA with MS Excel

 

Hi

Has anyone encountered problems using MS Excel, in particular when using the VBA editor to write macros (I am using Windows 7), Office 2007.  NVDA occasionally announces ‘blank’ where there are letters (this occurs mainly wen the letter follows an open bracket)  and may also miss out entire lines of code when moving around using the arrow keys.  This behaviour also occurs after pressing F2 to display a formula.  Using the Tools/Options dialog,to configure the VBA editor,   I have set font to Courier New Western and pointsize to 10  but NVDA announces it as Ariel 8 point.    

 

Does anyone know of any work arounds or NVDA parameters I can use to prevent this behaviour from occurring?

 

Cheers

Chris

 

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Re: youtube-dl

kavein thran
 

hi, good rundown , I love it,

just, couple of things to ask here,

could we download a large playlist or multiple videos, say, I have
about thousand youtube links, could it be paste there and download,
thanks

On 3/16/16, Shaun Everiss <@smeveriss> wrote:
Hi all.
I was going to do a small audio tutorial on this but decided to do it in
text instead.
Yesterday during the presentation or just before someone on here asked
me about youtube-dl and I promised I'd do it if I had time.
Time came today and I did youtube-dl well ran it through its paces.
Firstly I didn't use the command line youtube-dl.
The way I did it was via youtube-dl-g which is what you should put in
google, the first link should get you to the github page.
Download the windows setup zip file.
note, if you actually don't want to have the setup, coppy the link to it
then delete the everything after /releases and go to the releases, I in
the end got the portable.
Next, the question was do I need python, no everything needed is
contained in the program.
For the demonstration I found a youtube vid that was 7 minutes long from
nvda well about nvda and there are a few of these, I then ran
youtube-dl-g executable file.
Layout.
its a simple layout, from what I could figure out, there is an update
button to update the program I assume, a ariea for urls and an options
button as well as a download button.
I paste in a youtube url and hit download.
I then was able to get access to the file who's location opened on the
end of the download and as well as that the program put up a dialog on
what to do and then it played in winamp as expected.
So why not the podcast?
While the program was quite simple to use, access wize there were a few
things lacking.
While I could guess some of the option pages, control tab when I
switched to the next tab the tabs did not speak the first one said tab
control but everything else never spoke.
So while I could get access and change audio options, the video types in
their combo boxes, and turn on and off audio conversion which seemlessly
happens on the fly by the way, I was unable to get the titles of the
combo boxes.
So there were a few pages where I have no idea what they were.
As it stands you can with any confidence set the following.
path.
you will want to do that immediately as it defaults to %username% which
while fine is not.
I had adobe digital additions do that to me with its settings, this made
my user directory inaccessable till I killed the file it made %appdata%
not work.
sadly %username% and a few other variables are still screwed over thank
god I don't need these that often.
Since there is no brouse button I would set it to something off the root
or somewhere you can find stuff later.
for me I put it in the downloads folder off my root which is where I put
ftp files to.
the next tab after the general one which also has a reset options button.
has a editable box saying default and by going up and down you can
choose the video type downloaded what sort web m mp4 apple, 3gp, mobile
and flv flash video of different qualities.
In addition there is a box becide it set to none which I assume has a
video you can save it to if you don't want the video in that format.
once you set either the second to none or the first to default the
second box is no more.
the default is probably whatever the video came in mostly mp4 apple video.
the next tab has the audio on and off checkbox which is always unticked.
The formats are, mpeg layer 3, apple losless aac, ogg vorbis and
microsoft wave.
as they appear in the list they are
mp3
aac, wav and vorbis.
You can set these in the next box high mid or low.
I sadly couldn't customise what those settings were.
The next page is a lot of numbers and I didn't know what those were.
The next page all with control tab I assume because of protected fields
is your proxy or something else.
the next 2 pages are numbers and I assume its all to do with networks
but I don't know what they do as they don't speak.
there is no ok or cancel so you just alt f4 out of the options window.
Your next question is can youtube -dl -g be used?
Yes.
Can it be used fully, not without some work.
Its also worth noting that its not even passed version 1.0 yet.
I myself don't need to convert many youtube videos however I'd like to
test if someone can download a huge video say 2-5 hours long and see
what that does to how long it takes.
it took 1 minute at 250kbps to get a 7 minute video on nvda.
I do think that if someone uses this a lot they should probably ask the
author to make things more accessable, however all it needs are things
like labling of all the options, tabs, boxes, icons, etc as the main
issue is that most of the options and interface does not have much
labeling and thats probably all it needs.
The main interface is ok, but its just options that are not labeled.
it also did not contain any docs over its readme which being a wing it
guy didn't read, and I am confident to say you don't need that file as
such.
Being that it is opensource, I am not sure about linux/windows but I am
wandering if someone has time they could make this thing work better
access wize or write an addon for nvda.
Look round but I don't think much needs to be done.
I may contact the author and see anyway.



Re: speech hub and ducking.

ken lawrence
 

No windows 10.  ducking option isn’t even present in the synthesizers dialog
 

From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 1:49 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] speech hub and ducking.
 

Hi,

Which operating system is this (perhaps windows 7)?

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: ken lawrence via Groups.io [mailto:kenlawrence124@...]
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 10:50 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] speech hub and ducking.

 

yeah that’s wht I’m running.  uninstalled NVDA and went from scratch.  the ducking option isn’t even there.  not using the portable version.  not sure if the speech configuration is lost or not have rebooted a couple times.  setttings are exactgly what I had before too. 

Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 1:36 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] speech hub and ducking.

 

Hi Ken

The audio ducking feature is only in the installer version of NVDA and not in the portable version of NVDA. It was put into the NVDA 2016.1 release.

I just tried it with the audio ducking feature and it worked with speechhub.

Is when you are having problems with speechhub is it when you first boot up the computer? I have 6 machines here all with speechhub on them, the 5 of them which are duel core machines load with speechhub every time with the correct voices, but they are not the intensive ones. I have not tried it with the mary voices for a while.

Now and again on the quad core machine when it starts up, it will default back to the E speak voice. I think this is a timing issue
With the installer version of NVDA I use the alt + ctrl + the letter N to restart NVDA then it comes up with the voice that was chosen. Isaac is the developer of speechhub and i think he is on the list still.
I can pass on the details to him.

Gene nz
.

On 16-Mar-16 2:00 AM, ken lawrence via Groups.io wrote:

Hi listers ken here was fiddling around on synthesizers dialog on NVDA and and didn’t find the ducking option in the dialog.  also now another issue is coming up.  I also changed synthsizers to a speech hub cross platform voice and I noticed that the NVDA isn’t saving configuration it’s going back to the Espeak default.  have switched  back to sapi 5 and now I notice that it’s still reverting back to default.  screen reader keeps shutting down too when I do some things.  why isn’t it holding configuration or ducking even though my computer shows save configuration is checked and am using current version it shows that on programs and features installed on 2/22/2016  should  I uninstall and reinstall a fresh copy from scratch?  

 

Re: How to find specified font on word text?

 

hi.
you can activate it in the document formatting to report colors or
press insert f to find informations about the word that you selected.

On 3/16/16, 高生旺 <coscell@...> wrote:
Hi

If someone tell me to read some red text in a word file, how can I find it
as soon as possible?



--
Those who follow the Messenger-Prophet, the Ummi, whom they find
written down with them in the Taurat and the Injeel [who] enjoins them
good and forbids them evil, and makes lawful to them the good things
and makes unlawful to them impure things, and removes from them their
burden and the shackles which were upon them; so [as for] those who
believe in him and honor him and help him, and follow the light which
has been sent down with him, these it is that are the successful.
holy quran, chapter 7, verse 157.
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al-islam.org

Re: Accessibility in SumatraPDF

 

hi.
thanks extremely for asking this questions. because i wished that
someone asked and i found the reply.
i realy wish to use sumatra.
because: its realy simple, open source, has persian translation and
use little system resources, fast, stable and its simpleness even for
novice people like me.
but adobe its very professional and with complex settings and i could
not tolerate it.
when i used adobe most of times, the program crashed, my system hanged
and i turned my system off only with the power botton in my laptop and
i did not have any way to prevent my system from these terrible hangs.
and i uninstalled it forever.

i wish that we united and send letter for its developers together and
request for its accessibility or take help from someone who knows
programming and is familiar with accessibility.
since this program is open source, we have many doors that we can open
them to benefit from this program and we should insist on to achieve
our legal goal.
moreover, i heard that this program its accessible for narrator.
hope for very fast solution.

On 3/16/16, juan gonzalez <jgonzalezh614@...> wrote:
thank you for your input. guess i have to stay with Adobe.

On 3/15/2016 3:44 PM, Mallard wrote:
Hello,

No, it doesn't.

In the old days, when the programme was first released, someone asked
about accessibility, but the dev said he didn't know anything about
accessibility, and didn't want to get involved. He said that, since
the software is open source, whoeer wanted to delve into that, could
do so...

Sumatra pdf doesn't have a text viewer, so no text can be read.

Pity, because it also reads epubs, amongst other things.

Hovever, i found that it does a great job saving pdf files to txt.
Of all these pdf reading programme, this is the one that "ruins" the
format least of all.

hth,
Ciao,
Ollie




Il 15/03/2016 20:33, juan gonzalez ha scritto:
does anybody know if this PDF program works with NVDA?







--
Those who follow the Messenger-Prophet, the Ummi, whom they find
written down with them in the Taurat and the Injeel [who] enjoins them
good and forbids them evil, and makes lawful to them the good things
and makes unlawful to them impure things, and removes from them their
burden and the shackles which were upon them; so [as for] those who
believe in him and honor him and help him, and follow the light which
has been sent down with him, these it is that are the successful.
holy quran, chapter 7, verse 157.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org

How to find specified font on word text?

=?ISO-2022-JP?Q?=1B$B9b=4082=22=1B=28J?=
 

Hi

If someone tell me to read some red text in a word file, how can I find it as soon as possible?

youtube-dl

 

Hi all.
I was going to do a small audio tutorial on this but decided to do it in text instead.
Yesterday during the presentation or just before someone on here asked me about youtube-dl and I promised I'd do it if I had time.
Time came today and I did youtube-dl well ran it through its paces.
Firstly I didn't use the command line youtube-dl.
The way I did it was via youtube-dl-g which is what you should put in google, the first link should get you to the github page.
Download the windows setup zip file.
note, if you actually don't want to have the setup, coppy the link to it then delete the everything after /releases and go to the releases, I in the end got the portable.
Next, the question was do I need python, no everything needed is contained in the program.
For the demonstration I found a youtube vid that was 7 minutes long from nvda well about nvda and there are a few of these, I then ran youtube-dl-g executable file.
Layout.
its a simple layout, from what I could figure out, there is an update button to update the program I assume, a ariea for urls and an options button as well as a download button.
I paste in a youtube url and hit download.
I then was able to get access to the file who's location opened on the end of the download and as well as that the program put up a dialog on what to do and then it played in winamp as expected.
So why not the podcast?
While the program was quite simple to use, access wize there were a few things lacking.
While I could guess some of the option pages, control tab when I switched to the next tab the tabs did not speak the first one said tab control but everything else never spoke.
So while I could get access and change audio options, the video types in their combo boxes, and turn on and off audio conversion which seemlessly happens on the fly by the way, I was unable to get the titles of the combo boxes.
So there were a few pages where I have no idea what they were.
As it stands you can with any confidence set the following.
path.
you will want to do that immediately as it defaults to %username% which while fine is not.
I had adobe digital additions do that to me with its settings, this made my user directory inaccessable till I killed the file it made %appdata% not work.
sadly %username% and a few other variables are still screwed over thank god I don't need these that often.
Since there is no brouse button I would set it to something off the root or somewhere you can find stuff later.
for me I put it in the downloads folder off my root which is where I put ftp files to.
the next tab after the general one which also has a reset options button.
has a editable box saying default and by going up and down you can choose the video type downloaded what sort web m mp4 apple, 3gp, mobile and flv flash video of different qualities.
In addition there is a box becide it set to none which I assume has a video you can save it to if you don't want the video in that format.
once you set either the second to none or the first to default the second box is no more.
the default is probably whatever the video came in mostly mp4 apple video.
the next tab has the audio on and off checkbox which is always unticked.
The formats are, mpeg layer 3, apple losless aac, ogg vorbis and microsoft wave.
as they appear in the list they are
mp3
aac, wav and vorbis.
You can set these in the next box high mid or low.
I sadly couldn't customise what those settings were.
The next page is a lot of numbers and I didn't know what those were.
The next page all with control tab I assume because of protected fields is your proxy or something else.
the next 2 pages are numbers and I assume its all to do with networks but I don't know what they do as they don't speak.
there is no ok or cancel so you just alt f4 out of the options window.
Your next question is can youtube -dl -g be used?
Yes.
Can it be used fully, not without some work.
Its also worth noting that its not even passed version 1.0 yet.
I myself don't need to convert many youtube videos however I'd like to test if someone can download a huge video say 2-5 hours long and see what that does to how long it takes.
it took 1 minute at 250kbps to get a 7 minute video on nvda.
I do think that if someone uses this a lot they should probably ask the author to make things more accessable, however all it needs are things like labling of all the options, tabs, boxes, icons, etc as the main issue is that most of the options and interface does not have much labeling and thats probably all it needs.
The main interface is ok, but its just options that are not labeled.
it also did not contain any docs over its readme which being a wing it guy didn't read, and I am confident to say you don't need that file as such.
Being that it is opensource, I am not sure about linux/windows but I am wandering if someone has time they could make this thing work better access wize or write an addon for nvda.
Look round but I don't think much needs to be done.
I may contact the author and see anyway.

Re: NVDA 2016-1

Aravind R
 

go to document settings ctrl+shift+d.
use tab and untick "report paragraph indentation.

On 3/16/16, Jim Pipczak <Jim.Pipczak@...> wrote:
Hi all,

Using NVDA 2016.1 and using the physical mouse, whenever I move from
paragraph to paragraph NVDA says paragraph before reading the text.
I can't remember how to turn that off. Your help would be appreciated.

Many thanks,

Jim


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Re: still some carricter help

Pete <emac00@...>
 

Hi
NVDA key + number pad 7 turns on review mode
and
NVDA key + number pad 1 turns on object review

I'm not sure how it works on a portable computer
Pete

Re: still some carricter help

Pete <emac00@...>
 

hi
on the number pad 7 8 and 9 keys move by line
and
the number pad 4 5 and 6 move by word
and
the number pad 1 2 and 3 move by character
Pete

Re: the talk tonight

David Moore
 

Thanks a lot! Just downloaded the link you provided. Have a great one.
 
 

Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2016 1:15 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] the talk tonight
 

There is a version of TeamTalk for iOS devices as well. From the little I've used it, it works extremely well. It should be noted that it is free. Someone did a simple podcast on this. The link is below:

https://www.coolblindtech.com/teamtalk-for-ios-is-here-bringing-clarity-to-voice-communications/

 


 

 

 


On 3/16/2016 1:00 AM, David Moore wrote:
Hi all,
I will be there as well. I have never used team talk before, so that will be fun. I am going to try to get it set up in the next couple of days. Thanks, Joseph, and have a great one. I could not make the talk tonight, because my wife has been really sick. Just got home from the hospital. I have your talk in my favorites in Google Chrome. Take care, all.


-----Original Message----- From: Bhavya shah
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 10:37 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] the talk tonight

Hi Nasrin,
Though the question was addressed to Joseph, I hope you do not mind me
chiming in.
The NVDACon webpage offers comprehensive instructions on basic
functional usage of Teamtalk and how you can acquire and configure it
to join the conference.
Please find below the relevant section of the page which explains the
procedure to join the NVDACon International 2016 followed by the link
from which the extract was taken, i.e. the NVDACon page.

How to join us
TeamTalk is a program that you run on your Windows PC (there is a Mac
version available, but we have found that it does not work well with
VoiceOver and so we do not recommend you use it). To get started,
follow these steps:
1. Download the software (TeamTalk 5) from bearware.dk
2. When you are installing the above program, you will come to a
screen where you can choose which components you want. Tab to the list
of components and arrow down until you find the "TeamTalk 5 classic"
option. Press space, then enter. For best results with screen reading
software, it is strongly recommended that you do this; the standard
(non-classic) version is not very accessible.
3. Once the setup process is complete, and you are in the TeamTalk
application (start it up if it is not running already), follow the
below procedure to connect to the server:
◦ From within TeamTalk, press f2. Tab until you get to the "host
properties" group, and simply erase any information that may be
already in the edit fields. For the "entry name", type anything you
want that will tell you what this server is (for example, "NVDACon").
For "host address", type nvda-kr.org. Set TCP port to 10333 and UDP
port to 10333 and skip everything else. Press enter on "join/update"
and you should be all set.
4. Once you are logged on, you can join any of the available rooms
(note that some may be password-protected). We first recommend doing
an audio test (choose the option form the context menu) To join this
or any room, just arrow to it and press control-j (to leave a room,
arrow to it and press control-l). You can also hit the applications
key, or shift-f10, on a room and choose the option you want.
5. While in any room, you will see three slider controls after the
list of channels (rooms and channels are the same thing), along with
an edit field. The first edit field is for system and user messages.
The second lets you chat by typing text and pressing enter. The first
slider changes your microphone's sensitivity (gain), the second
changes the volume of the room in general as you hear it, and we are
not sure what the third one does.
If you are using the JAWS for Windows screen reader or NvDA, there are
now JAWS scripts and NvDA add-on available for use with TeamTalk. The
link will take you to a website where you can download these free
scripts. We do not offer support for the scripts, though; please refer
to the above link for help instead.
NVDACon homepage: http://nvda-kr.org/en/nvdacon.php
Looking forward to having you with us in the event, and many thanks
again to Joseph for organizing this.
Thanks.

On 3/15/16, nasrin khaksar mailto:nasrinkhaksar3@... wrote:
hi joseph.
thanks so much for your nvda con.
i realy appreciate your efferts and islam advices us to be grateful to
people do sincere efferts and help others.
i wish successful, devine mercys and blessings for you and your corporate
team.
if someone educate me using teamtalk, i am very happy to participate
in your international con.
nvda is the best screen readers now and forever.

On 3/15/16, Bhavya shah mailto:bhavya.shah125@... wrote:
Hi Scott,
Well, do let us know in case you have some specific Teamtalk problems
or troubleshooting requirements, and the TT experts here may be able
to help you.
Just to note, you can communicate in the conference via text messages
as well as audio conversation. Text chats are always recognized and
read out by others. If microphone configuration with TT is an issue
for you, hope that may no longer need to be an impediment for
participation in NVDACon. :) smiles
Thanks.

On 3/15/16, Scott VanDeWalle mailto:scottvandewalle2@... wrote:
Hello, i plan to be there, if i can get team talk working on my system.
I tried before and it didn't work, so we'll see i guess.smile.

Scott

On 3/14/2016 9:56 PM, Bhavya shah wrote:
Hi Scott, Joseph and others,
It was great fun for me too to be a part of the recent Accessible
World Techtalk presentation, and am thankful to Joseph for the same.
Just like this recent Techtalk event related to NVDA, I would
encourage everyone to participate in this, and future events,
including the NVDACon International 2016, of course. Looking forward
to seeing you out there, Scott, and many others.
Thanks.

On 3/15/16, Scott VanDeWalle mailto:scottvandewalle2@... wrote:
Hello Joseph and all.
First of all I wanted to say thanks Joseph, that was fun to listen to.
I will have to reinstall the plugin though because I tried to talk and
it didn't work i think.
But, thanks again.
Maybe some day I'll actually get to talk to you all in voice during
one
of these things.

I'm planning to be there during at least some of the nvda con
sessions.
Sounds like it'll be fun.

Well, that is all for now.

Talk to you all later.

Scott V












--
Warm Regards
Bhavya Shah
Using NVDA (Non Visual Desktop Access) free and open source screen
reader for Microsoft Windows
To download a copy of the free screen reader NVDA, please visit
http://www.nvaccess.org/
Using Google Talkback on Motorolla G second generation Lollipop 5.0.2
Reach me through the following means:
Mobile: +91 7506221750
E-mail id: bhavya.shah125@...
Skype id : bhavya.09






--
Those who follow the Messenger-Prophet, the Ummi, whom they find
written down with them in the Taurat and the Injeel [who] enjoins them
good and forbids them evil, and makes lawful to them the good things
and makes unlawful to them impure things, and removes from them their
burden and the shackles which were upon them; so [as for] those who
believe in him and honor him and help him, and follow the light which
has been sent down with him, these it is that are the successful.
holy quran, chapter 7, verse 157.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org







Re: the talk tonight

 

There is a version of TeamTalk for iOS devices as well. From the little I've used it, it works extremely well. It should be noted that it is free. Someone did a simple podcast on this. The link is below:

https://www.coolblindtech.com/teamtalk-for-ios-is-here-bringing-clarity-to-voice-communications/







On 3/16/2016 1:00 AM, David Moore wrote:
Hi all,
I will be there as well. I have never used team talk before, so that will be fun. I am going to try to get it set up in the next couple of days. Thanks, Joseph, and have a great one. I could not make the talk tonight, because my wife has been really sick. Just got home from the hospital. I have your talk in my favorites in Google Chrome. Take care, all.


-----Original Message----- From: Bhavya shah
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 10:37 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] the talk tonight

Hi Nasrin,
Though the question was addressed to Joseph, I hope you do not mind me
chiming in.
The NVDACon webpage offers comprehensive instructions on basic
functional usage of Teamtalk and how you can acquire and configure it
to join the conference.
Please find below the relevant section of the page which explains the
procedure to join the NVDACon International 2016 followed by the link
from which the extract was taken, i.e. the NVDACon page.

How to join us
TeamTalk is a program that you run on your Windows PC (there is a Mac
version available, but we have found that it does not work well with
VoiceOver and so we do not recommend you use it). To get started,
follow these steps:
1. Download the software (TeamTalk 5) from bearware.dk
2. When you are installing the above program, you will come to a
screen where you can choose which components you want. Tab to the list
of components and arrow down until you find the "TeamTalk 5 classic"
option. Press space, then enter. For best results with screen reading
software, it is strongly recommended that you do this; the standard
(non-classic) version is not very accessible.
3. Once the setup process is complete, and you are in the TeamTalk
application (start it up if it is not running already), follow the
below procedure to connect to the server:
◦ From within TeamTalk, press f2. Tab until you get to the "host
properties" group, and simply erase any information that may be
already in the edit fields. For the "entry name", type anything you
want that will tell you what this server is (for example, "NVDACon").
For "host address", type nvda-kr.org. Set TCP port to 10333 and UDP
port to 10333 and skip everything else. Press enter on "join/update"
and you should be all set.
4. Once you are logged on, you can join any of the available rooms
(note that some may be password-protected). We first recommend doing
an audio test (choose the option form the context menu) To join this
or any room, just arrow to it and press control-j (to leave a room,
arrow to it and press control-l). You can also hit the applications
key, or shift-f10, on a room and choose the option you want.
5. While in any room, you will see three slider controls after the
list of channels (rooms and channels are the same thing), along with
an edit field. The first edit field is for system and user messages.
The second lets you chat by typing text and pressing enter. The first
slider changes your microphone's sensitivity (gain), the second
changes the volume of the room in general as you hear it, and we are
not sure what the third one does.
If you are using the JAWS for Windows screen reader or NvDA, there are
now JAWS scripts and NvDA add-on available for use with TeamTalk. The
link will take you to a website where you can download these free
scripts. We do not offer support for the scripts, though; please refer
to the above link for help instead.
NVDACon homepage: http://nvda-kr.org/en/nvdacon.php
Looking forward to having you with us in the event, and many thanks
again to Joseph for organizing this.
Thanks.

On 3/15/16, nasrin khaksar <nasrinkhaksar3@...> wrote:
hi joseph.
thanks so much for your nvda con.
i realy appreciate your efferts and islam advices us to be grateful to
people do sincere efferts and help others.
i wish successful, devine mercys and blessings for you and your corporate
team.
if someone educate me using teamtalk, i am very happy to participate
in your international con.
nvda is the best screen readers now and forever.

On 3/15/16, Bhavya shah <bhavya.shah125@...> wrote:
Hi Scott,
Well, do let us know in case you have some specific Teamtalk problems
or troubleshooting requirements, and the TT experts here may be able
to help you.
Just to note, you can communicate in the conference via text messages
as well as audio conversation. Text chats are always recognized and
read out by others. If microphone configuration with TT is an issue
for you, hope that may no longer need to be an impediment for
participation in NVDACon. :) smiles
Thanks.

On 3/15/16, Scott VanDeWalle <scottvandewalle2@...> wrote:
Hello, i plan to be there, if i can get team talk working on my system.
I tried before and it didn't work, so we'll see i guess.smile.

Scott

On 3/14/2016 9:56 PM, Bhavya shah wrote:
Hi Scott, Joseph and others,
It was great fun for me too to be a part of the recent Accessible
World Techtalk presentation, and am thankful to Joseph for the same.
Just like this recent Techtalk event related to NVDA, I would
encourage everyone to participate in this, and future events,
including the NVDACon International 2016, of course. Looking forward
to seeing you out there, Scott, and many others.
Thanks.

On 3/15/16, Scott VanDeWalle <scottvandewalle2@...> wrote:
Hello Joseph and all.
First of all I wanted to say thanks Joseph, that was fun to listen to.
I will have to reinstall the plugin though because I tried to talk and
it didn't work i think.
But, thanks again.
Maybe some day I'll actually get to talk to you all in voice during
one
of these things.

I'm planning to be there during at least some of the nvda con
sessions.
Sounds like it'll be fun.

Well, that is all for now.

Talk to you all later.

Scott V












--
Warm Regards
Bhavya Shah
Using NVDA (Non Visual Desktop Access) free and open source screen
reader for Microsoft Windows
To download a copy of the free screen reader NVDA, please visit
http://www.nvaccess.org/
Using Google Talkback on Motorolla G second generation Lollipop 5.0.2
Reach me through the following means:
Mobile: +91 7506221750
E-mail id: bhavya.shah125@...
Skype id : bhavya.09






--
Those who follow the Messenger-Prophet, the Ummi, whom they find
written down with them in the Taurat and the Injeel [who] enjoins them
good and forbids them evil, and makes lawful to them the good things
and makes unlawful to them impure things, and removes from them their
burden and the shackles which were upon them; so [as for] those who
believe in him and honor him and help him, and follow the light which
has been sent down with him, these it is that are the successful.
holy quran, chapter 7, verse 157.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org







Re: the talk tonight

David Moore
 

Hi all,
I will be there as well. I have never used team talk before, so that will be fun. I am going to try to get it set up in the next couple of days. Thanks, Joseph, and have a great one. I could not make the talk tonight, because my wife has been really sick. Just got home from the hospital. I have your talk in my favorites in Google Chrome. Take care, all.

-----Original Message-----
From: Bhavya shah
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 10:37 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] the talk tonight

Hi Nasrin,
Though the question was addressed to Joseph, I hope you do not mind me
chiming in.
The NVDACon webpage offers comprehensive instructions on basic
functional usage of Teamtalk and how you can acquire and configure it
to join the conference.
Please find below the relevant section of the page which explains the
procedure to join the NVDACon International 2016 followed by the link
from which the extract was taken, i.e. the NVDACon page.

How to join us
TeamTalk is a program that you run on your Windows PC (there is a Mac
version available, but we have found that it does not work well with
VoiceOver and so we do not recommend you use it). To get started,
follow these steps:
1. Download the software (TeamTalk 5) from bearware.dk
2. When you are installing the above program, you will come to a
screen where you can choose which components you want. Tab to the list
of components and arrow down until you find the "TeamTalk 5 classic"
option. Press space, then enter. For best results with screen reading
software, it is strongly recommended that you do this; the standard
(non-classic) version is not very accessible.
3. Once the setup process is complete, and you are in the TeamTalk
application (start it up if it is not running already), follow the
below procedure to connect to the server:
◦ From within TeamTalk, press f2. Tab until you get to the "host
properties" group, and simply erase any information that may be
already in the edit fields. For the "entry name", type anything you
want that will tell you what this server is (for example, "NVDACon").
For "host address", type nvda-kr.org. Set TCP port to 10333 and UDP
port to 10333 and skip everything else. Press enter on "join/update"
and you should be all set.
4. Once you are logged on, you can join any of the available rooms
(note that some may be password-protected). We first recommend doing
an audio test (choose the option form the context menu) To join this
or any room, just arrow to it and press control-j (to leave a room,
arrow to it and press control-l). You can also hit the applications
key, or shift-f10, on a room and choose the option you want.
5. While in any room, you will see three slider controls after the
list of channels (rooms and channels are the same thing), along with
an edit field. The first edit field is for system and user messages.
The second lets you chat by typing text and pressing enter. The first
slider changes your microphone's sensitivity (gain), the second
changes the volume of the room in general as you hear it, and we are
not sure what the third one does.
If you are using the JAWS for Windows screen reader or NvDA, there are
now JAWS scripts and NvDA add-on available for use with TeamTalk. The
link will take you to a website where you can download these free
scripts. We do not offer support for the scripts, though; please refer
to the above link for help instead.
NVDACon homepage: http://nvda-kr.org/en/nvdacon.php
Looking forward to having you with us in the event, and many thanks
again to Joseph for organizing this.
Thanks.

On 3/15/16, nasrin khaksar <nasrinkhaksar3@...> wrote:
hi joseph.
thanks so much for your nvda con.
i realy appreciate your efferts and islam advices us to be grateful to
people do sincere efferts and help others.
i wish successful, devine mercys and blessings for you and your corporate
team.
if someone educate me using teamtalk, i am very happy to participate
in your international con.
nvda is the best screen readers now and forever.

On 3/15/16, Bhavya shah <bhavya.shah125@...> wrote:
Hi Scott,
Well, do let us know in case you have some specific Teamtalk problems
or troubleshooting requirements, and the TT experts here may be able
to help you.
Just to note, you can communicate in the conference via text messages
as well as audio conversation. Text chats are always recognized and
read out by others. If microphone configuration with TT is an issue
for you, hope that may no longer need to be an impediment for
participation in NVDACon. :) smiles
Thanks.

On 3/15/16, Scott VanDeWalle <scottvandewalle2@...> wrote:
Hello, i plan to be there, if i can get team talk working on my system.
I tried before and it didn't work, so we'll see i guess.smile.

Scott

On 3/14/2016 9:56 PM, Bhavya shah wrote:
Hi Scott, Joseph and others,
It was great fun for me too to be a part of the recent Accessible
World Techtalk presentation, and am thankful to Joseph for the same.
Just like this recent Techtalk event related to NVDA, I would
encourage everyone to participate in this, and future events,
including the NVDACon International 2016, of course. Looking forward
to seeing you out there, Scott, and many others.
Thanks.

On 3/15/16, Scott VanDeWalle <scottvandewalle2@...> wrote:
Hello Joseph and all.
First of all I wanted to say thanks Joseph, that was fun to listen to.
I will have to reinstall the plugin though because I tried to talk and
it didn't work i think.
But, thanks again.
Maybe some day I'll actually get to talk to you all in voice during
one
of these things.

I'm planning to be there during at least some of the nvda con
sessions.
Sounds like it'll be fun.

Well, that is all for now.

Talk to you all later.

Scott V







--
Warm Regards
Bhavya Shah
Using NVDA (Non Visual Desktop Access) free and open source screen
reader for Microsoft Windows
To download a copy of the free screen reader NVDA, please visit
http://www.nvaccess.org/
Using Google Talkback on Motorolla G second generation Lollipop 5.0.2
Reach me through the following means:
Mobile: +91 7506221750
E-mail id: bhavya.shah125@...
Skype id : bhavya.09




--
Those who follow the Messenger-Prophet, the Ummi, whom they find
written down with them in the Taurat and the Injeel [who] enjoins them
good and forbids them evil, and makes lawful to them the good things
and makes unlawful to them impure things, and removes from them their
burden and the shackles which were upon them; so [as for] those who
believe in him and honor him and help him, and follow the light which
has been sent down with him, these it is that are the successful.
holy quran, chapter 7, verse 157.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org




--
Warm Regards
Bhavya Shah
Using NVDA (Non Visual Desktop Access) free and open source screen
reader for Microsoft Windows
To download a copy of the free screen reader NVDA, please visit
http://www.nvaccess.org/
Using Google Talkback on Motorolla G second generation Lollipop 5.0.2
Reach me through the following means:
Mobile: +91 7506221750
E-mail id: bhavya.shah125@...
Skype id : bhavya.09

NVDA 2016-1

Jim Pipczak
 

Hi all,

 

Using NVDA 2016.1 and using the physical mouse, whenever I move from paragraph to paragraph NVDA says paragraph before reading the text.

I can’t remember how to turn that off. Your help would be appreciated.

 

Many thanks,

 

Jim

 


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Re: The UEB table used in NVDA

Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
 

Ewww, ouch! That's kind of what I suspected, but I just wanted to be sure.
---
Christopher Gilland
JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.

@AHeart4God316
Phone: (704) 256-8010 Extension 401.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <@joslee>
To: <nvda@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 8:39 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] The UEB table used in NVDA


Hi,
The table set and the library are sort of interrelated. You can add new
tables without modifying the library, and the only way to add new table for
use by NVDA is modifying the source code.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher-Mark Gilland [mailto:@AHeart4God316]
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 5:23 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] The UEB table used in NVDA

Right, I get that, but is there a way one could modify that library to add
new tables which aren't there already?
---
Christopher Gilland
JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.

@AHeart4God316
Phone: (704) 256-8010 Extension 401.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <@joslee>
To: <nvda@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 9:12 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] The UEB table used in NVDA


Hi,
Braille tables in NVDA comes from LibLouis, the braille translation
library used by NVDA.
Cheers,
Joseph

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ben J. Bloomgren" <bbloomgren@...
To: nvda@groups.io
Date sent: Tue, 15 Mar 2016 17:01:24 -0700
Subject: Re: [nvda] The UEB table used in NVDA

How does one implement Braille tables into NVDA which aren't currently
present? There's a jerry-rigged way to do so with the *.JBT files within
Jaws.

Ben
----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph Lee
To: nvda@groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 12:50
Subject: Re: [nvda] The UEB table used in NVDA


Hi,

Ah yes.

I do plan to publish a third-party try build that'll include newer UEB
tables (as an experimental option), likely tomorrow or sometime this
weekend..

Cheers,

Joseph



From: Sharni-Lee Ward [mailto:sharni-lee.ward@...]
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 12:49 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] The UEB table used in NVDA



Hi,

In recent emails, I mentioned I had a Focus 40 Braille display and was
wondering about inconsistencies with the Braille output. I've noticed a
couple other things that didn't gel with my knowledge of Unified English
Braille. Joseph told me NVDA was using an outdated version of the table,
but since these things were present both when I first got the pamphlet
about UEB in School in 2005 and in an overview I found via Google dated
March 2013, I find myself a little confused.

1. Related to previously mentioned formatting inconsistencies. The
italic terminator is used after a single word thus emphasised instead of
the italic word indicator appearing before it. This is also true of bold
and likely other such formatting.
2. "E-a" is not contracted in the middle of words. Neither is "cc". I
know "dd" was removed but nothing was mentioned about "cc" and since it's
in the middle of the cell, it should have been just fine.
3. And, For, Of, The and With are still presented as being next to each
other with no spaces. This, as I recall and as the 2013 overview clearly
states, was changed in UEB.

This is coming from someone who only got her Braille Display two weeks
ago and who never looked at Braille-related emails before then due to the
content not being relevant before aforementioned acquisition of a Braille
Display, so if anything like this has been mentioned before, I apologise.
Also, if there have been any changes to the UEB code since 2013 that I
don't know about, I'd like a link.

I look forward to those working on the Braille side of things correcting
these problems, if indeed some of them are problems, and although I hope
it will be in the next update, I don't know the work that goes into such
coding. I just thought I'd point them out in case nobody had as yet. My
earlier point about emdashes and italicised passages has already been
brought to Joseph's attention, so I needn't go over that again. :D










For those using braille displays: brltbl20160315 now available

 

Hi all,

This is mostly for those using UEB: A new third-party snapshot for testing latest UEB tables is now up. Note that this is equivalent to portable copy (please don’t install this version onto your computer, as this build does not support manual nor automatic updates).

Direct link:

http://www.nvda-kr.org/en/nvda_snapshot_brltbl20160315.exe

After launching this build, to use the UEB table set, from braille settings/output table combo box, select either English (Unified) grade 1 or 2 (both will be the last table set for English and they are labeled as “experimental”). Comments regarding this build should be sent to this list or to me directly. Thank you.

Cheers,

Joseph