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Re: problem with thunderbird

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hello, Robert,

That's unfortunate. Thunderbird used to be pretty good. I wonder if
seamonkey would work.

Rosemarie

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Robert
Mendoza
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2016 5:49 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] problem with thunderbird

Hello, Ron and Rosemary,

This was happened from the time Thunderbird released the newer version.


Robert Mendoza
On 5/10/2016 8:43 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:


Hi, Ron,

That's exactly what happens to me too. That's why I'm using outlook
now.

Rosemarie



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ron
Canazzi
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2016 5:40 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] problem with thunderbird

Hi Rosemarie,




Ever since the sub group was created for this list, when I send a
message to
this list, in my filtered inbox, what I see for my name is:
"main.Techtalk@groups.io <mailto:main.Techtalk@groups.io>
<mailto:main.Techtalk@groups.io> <mailto:main.Techtalk@groups.io> . Carlos
says my
name is listed to others, but for some reason, since this change to
the
group configuration, I don't see my own name on my messages to this
list.





On 5/9/2016 8:00 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:


Hi, Norman,


The other problem I'm having is that when I get a message
back
that's from me, I don't hear my name read out. There's definitely
something
wrong with thunderbird.


Rosemarie




On 5/9/2016 4:41 PM, Norman wrote:



Hi.

Let me make sure i have the steps down correctly.

You read a message and wish to reply to it so you
hit
control r.

You start typing and it seems like your screen
reader is
trying to navigate a webpage, for example by heading if you press h.


If this is the case Just hit shift tab to go to the
subject
and then tab again to go back to the message body.

You should be able to type now.

I have had this happen to me as well and i would
guess that
the screen reader is not correctly recognizing the window type.

For me it is not consistent and i can't reproduce at
will
but if someone can maybe a bug report would be helpful?



On 5/9/2016 7:25 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:



Hi, everyone,

Recently when I tried to reply to messages
in
thunderbird, I'd get a message like "no previous heading" or
something like
that. I don't know why that happens because I hit control R which is
the
reply command. Any help with this problem would be greatly
appreciated. I'm
using outlook to write this message but I actually like thunderbird
much
better.

Thanks for your help in advance.

Rosemarie








--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: problem with thunderbird

Robert Mendoza
 

Hello, Ron and Rosemary,

This was happened from the time Thunderbird released the newer version.

Robert Mendoza
On 5/10/2016 8:43 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Hi, Ron,

That's exactly what happens to me too. That's why I'm using outlook now.

Rosemarie



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ron
Canazzi
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2016 5:40 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] problem with thunderbird

Hi Rosemarie,




Ever since the sub group was created for this list, when I send a message to
this list, in my filtered inbox, what I see for my name is:
"main.Techtalk@groups.io <mailto:main.Techtalk@groups.io> .  Carlos says my
name is listed to others, but for some reason, since this change to the
group configuration, I don't see my own name on my messages to this list.





On 5/9/2016 8:00 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:


	Hi, Norman, 
	
	
	The other problem I'm having is that when I get a message back
that's from me, I don't hear my name read out. There's definitely something
wrong with thunderbird. 
	
	
	Rosemarie 
	
	
	
	
	On 5/9/2016 4:41 PM, Norman wrote: 
	


		Hi. 
		
		Let me make sure i have the steps down correctly. 
		
		You read a message and wish to reply to it so you hit
control r. 
		
		You start typing and it seems like your screen reader is
trying to navigate a webpage, for example by heading if you press h. 
		
		If this is the case Just hit shift tab to go to the subject
and then tab again to go back to the message body. 
		
		You should be able to type now. 
		
		I have had this happen to me as well and i would guess that
the screen reader is not correctly recognizing the window type. 
		
		For me it is not consistent and i can't reproduce at will
but if someone can maybe a bug report would be helpful? 
		
		
		
		On 5/9/2016 7:25 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote: 
		


			Hi, everyone, 
			
			Recently when I tried to reply to messages in
thunderbird, I'd get a message like "no previous heading" or something like
that. I don't know why that happens because I hit control R which is the
reply command. Any help with this problem would be greatly appreciated. I'm
using outlook to write this message but I actually like thunderbird much
better. 
			
			Thanks for your help in advance. 
			
			Rosemarie 
			
			






--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"







Re: problem with thunderbird

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Ron,

That's exactly what happens to me too. That's why I'm using outlook now.

Rosemarie

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ron
Canazzi
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2016 5:40 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] problem with thunderbird

Hi Rosemarie,




Ever since the sub group was created for this list, when I send a message to
this list, in my filtered inbox, what I see for my name is:
"main.Techtalk@groups.io <mailto:main.Techtalk@groups.io> . Carlos says my
name is listed to others, but for some reason, since this change to the
group configuration, I don't see my own name on my messages to this list.





On 5/9/2016 8:00 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:


Hi, Norman,


The other problem I'm having is that when I get a message back
that's from me, I don't hear my name read out. There's definitely something
wrong with thunderbird.


Rosemarie




On 5/9/2016 4:41 PM, Norman wrote:



Hi.

Let me make sure i have the steps down correctly.

You read a message and wish to reply to it so you hit
control r.

You start typing and it seems like your screen reader is
trying to navigate a webpage, for example by heading if you press h.

If this is the case Just hit shift tab to go to the subject
and then tab again to go back to the message body.

You should be able to type now.

I have had this happen to me as well and i would guess that
the screen reader is not correctly recognizing the window type.

For me it is not consistent and i can't reproduce at will
but if someone can maybe a bug report would be helpful?



On 5/9/2016 7:25 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:



Hi, everyone,

Recently when I tried to reply to messages in
thunderbird, I'd get a message like "no previous heading" or something like
that. I don't know why that happens because I hit control R which is the
reply command. Any help with this problem would be greatly appreciated. I'm
using outlook to write this message but I actually like thunderbird much
better.

Thanks for your help in advance.

Rosemarie








--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: problem with thunderbird

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Rosemarie,


Ever since the sub group was created for this list, when I send a message to this list, in my filtered inbox, what I see for my name is: "main.Techtalk@groups.io.  Carlos says my name is listed to others, but for some reason, since this change to the group configuration, I don't see my own name on my messages to this list.



On 5/9/2016 8:00 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, Norman,


The other problem I'm having is that when I get a message back that's from me, I don't hear my name read out. There's definitely something wrong with thunderbird.


Rosemarie




On 5/9/2016 4:41 PM, Norman wrote:

Hi.

Let me make sure i have the steps down correctly.

You read a message and wish to reply to it so you hit control r.

You start typing and it seems like your screen reader is trying to navigate a webpage, for example by heading if you press h.

If this is the case Just hit shift tab to go to the subject and then tab again to go back to the message body.

You should be able to type now.

I have had this happen to me as well and i would guess that the screen reader is not correctly recognizing the window type.

For me it is not consistent and i can't reproduce at will but if someone can maybe a bug report would be helpful?



On 5/9/2016 7:25 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Hi, everyone,

Recently when I tried to reply to messages in thunderbird, I'd get a message like "no previous heading" or something like that. I don't know why that happens because I hit control R which is the reply command. Any help with this problem would be greatly appreciated. I'm using outlook to write this message but I actually like thunderbird much better.

Thanks for your help in advance.

Rosemarie






--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: problem with thunderbird

Robert Mendoza
 

Hi, Rosemary!

I would assume that this happened every time you sent a reply and the new inbox does not reads your name. Am I correct? But, you can check it or try to press the tab till you land in the first column of the senders name then, nvda will reads the name where it came from.

Robert Mendoza
On 5/10/2016 8:00 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Hi, Norman,


The other problem I'm having is that when I get a message back that's from me, I don't hear my name read out. There's definitely something wrong with thunderbird.


Rosemarie




On 5/9/2016 4:41 PM, Norman wrote:

Hi.

Let me make sure i have the steps down correctly.

You read a message and wish to reply to it so you hit control r.

You start typing and it seems like your screen reader is trying to navigate a webpage, for example by heading if you press h.

If this is the case Just hit shift tab to go to the subject and then tab again to go back to the message body.

You should be able to type now.

I have had this happen to me as well and i would guess that the screen reader is not correctly recognizing the window type.

For me it is not consistent and i can't reproduce at will but if someone can maybe a bug report would be helpful?



On 5/9/2016 7:25 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Hi, everyone,

 

Recently when I tried to reply to messages in thunderbird, I'd get a message like "no previous heading" or something like that. I don't know why that happens because I hit control R which is the reply command. Any help with this problem would be greatly appreciated. I'm using outlook to write this message but I actually like thunderbird much better.

 

Thanks for your help in advance.

 

Rosemarie

 

 





Re: problem with thunderbird

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Norman,


The other problem I'm having is that when I get a message back that's from me, I don't hear my name read out. There's definitely something wrong with thunderbird.


Rosemarie




On 5/9/2016 4:41 PM, Norman wrote:

Hi.

Let me make sure i have the steps down correctly.

You read a message and wish to reply to it so you hit control r.

You start typing and it seems like your screen reader is trying to navigate a webpage, for example by heading if you press h.

If this is the case Just hit shift tab to go to the subject and then tab again to go back to the message body.

You should be able to type now.

I have had this happen to me as well and i would guess that the screen reader is not correctly recognizing the window type.

For me it is not consistent and i can't reproduce at will but if someone can maybe a bug report would be helpful?



On 5/9/2016 7:25 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Hi, everyone,

 

Recently when I tried to reply to messages in thunderbird, I'd get a message like "no previous heading" or something like that. I don't know why that happens because I hit control R which is the reply command. Any help with this problem would be greatly appreciated. I'm using outlook to write this message but I actually like thunderbird much better.

 

Thanks for your help in advance.

 

Rosemarie

 

 




Re: problem with thunderbird

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Norman,

You got the steps correct. I'll give thunderbird another try and see what
happens. Thanks for your reply.

Rosemarie

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Norman
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2016 4:41 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] problem with thunderbird

Hi.

Let me make sure i have the steps down correctly.

You read a message and wish to reply to it so you hit control r.

You start typing and it seems like your screen reader is trying to navigate
a webpage, for example by heading if you press h.

If this is the case Just hit shift tab to go to the subject and then tab
again to go back to the message body.

You should be able to type now.

I have had this happen to me as well and i would guess that the screen
reader is not correctly recognizing the window type.

For me it is not consistent and i can't reproduce at will but if someone can
maybe a bug report would be helpful?





On 5/9/2016 7:25 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:


Hi, everyone,



Recently when I tried to reply to messages in thunderbird, I'd get a
message like "no previous heading" or something like that. I don't know why
that happens because I hit control R which is the reply command. Any help
with this problem would be greatly appreciated. I'm using outlook to write
this message but I actually like thunderbird much better.



Thanks for your help in advance.



Rosemarie


Re: problem with thunderbird

norman <lists@...>
 

Hi.

Let me make sure i have the steps down correctly.

You read a message and wish to reply to it so you hit control r.

You start typing and it seems like your screen reader is trying to navigate a webpage, for example by heading if you press h.

If this is the case Just hit shift tab to go to the subject and then tab again to go back to the message body.

You should be able to type now.

I have had this happen to me as well and i would guess that the screen reader is not correctly recognizing the window type.

For me it is not consistent and i can't reproduce at will but if someone can maybe a bug report would be helpful?



On 5/9/2016 7:25 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Hi, everyone,

 

Recently when I tried to reply to messages in thunderbird, I'd get a message like "no previous heading" or something like that. I don't know why that happens because I hit control R which is the reply command. Any help with this problem would be greatly appreciated. I'm using outlook to write this message but I actually like thunderbird much better.

 

Thanks for your help in advance.

 

Rosemarie

 

 



problem with thunderbird

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, everyone,

 

Recently when I tried to reply to messages in thunderbird, I'd get a message like "no previous heading" or something like that. I don't know why that happens because I hit control R which is the reply command. Any help with this problem would be greatly appreciated. I'm using outlook to write this message but I actually like thunderbird much better.

 

Thanks for your help in advance.

 

Rosemarie

 

 


Re: setting up the people app on windows 10

 

Well to be honest I agree, my view is that especially now that governments want backdoors for various things into your devices and digital accounts they can, but then security of all things are their issues and yeah they get hacked to.
Some of us may rebel but even I am going to have to bite the bullet one day, at least for the units I use and for the rest I am unsure, for my personal unit I may try to hack my way into something so that things work in a round about way.
But really who knows how long all the little patches will work just to make 10 as close to what I am using now.

On 10/05/2016 3:15 a.m., Brian Vogel wrote:
Mr. Gaff, most average people don't worry about this, period. The security in place in any commercial data center is far more robust than what's on your own local machine and hackers target those, too.

What is anyone going to do with your, or my, or anyone's contacts list that requires any real worry? If people want random e-mail addresses these are so readily available by so many means that worrying about their acquisition is a complete waste of time. You simply can't stop it.

The world has moved away from POP because IMAP and synchronization is incredibly important in today's mobile world. That trend isn't going to reverse.

Brian
--
Never underestimate the difficulty of changing false beliefs by facts.
~ Henry Rosovsky


Re: setting up the people app on windows 10

 

Its not, but to be honest it doesn't matter anymore now days, just about everything you interact with will have some of your info stored online.
So if some of it is, then it may all as well be stored, if some of it is hacked from a system, well it may as well be all of it.
Its the age we live in.
Also most don't go round with 1 device alone, syncing is good for example if you have several devices and lets face it a fair number of us do.
The words security and privacy are changing, they were created pre net and don't mean what they used to mean.
Till real world/net laws equalise they will continue to change and even when they do they still may.
Its a different way of handling things.

On 10/05/2016 3:00 a.m., Brian's Mail list account wrote:
I never want my email address book stored online by any email system, as
this is far too hackable as Yahoo and BT found out.
Remember a person has all day every day to hack into your online
address book but if its on your own computer and its off part of the
time nobody can get at it. as I do not use any other devices that are
not pcs, I can easily simply swap the files between them on the local
network.
Everyone goes on about how convinient this synchronising is, but is it
really worth the worry to the average person?
Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Vogel" <@britechguy>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2016 3:41 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] setting up the people app on windows 10


One big caution on the "automatic import" of contacts for the People app
is this only works if your e-mail client was set up (or capable of)
using the contacts associated with your e-mail account and syncing them.

There are a number of e-mail clients that don't work that way, and when
I was last setting up Thunderbird it didn't work that way. Just a few
days ago I had to tweak a client's Thunderbird setup because the e-mail
account she had been using through an ISP no longer exists, and she was
terrified that all her contacts were going to go when that account went.
They didn't, though, because her contacts (or, perhaps, addresses - I
can't remember which terminology Tbird uses) are stored local to Tbird
and are not synced with her e-mail accounts. Since I'm the one who
installed Tbird for her several years ago and I know I didn't change any
defaults related to how contacts/addresses are handled, it appears that
they are managed locally.

When that's the case, you need to make certain to export from your
e-mail client and import via the web interface to the contacts for the
given e-mail account you're going to be adding to the mail app, and, by
extension, the People and Calendar apps. Whether you do this prior to
adding it or after will be irrelevant because as soon as those contacts
are imported into the contacts list maintained by your email server they
will sync with the People app.

I hasten to add this is also likely only applicable to IMAP access,
though I'm not 100% certain on that.

Brian


Re: Hi, from win10 Mail App!

Kenny Dog <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi David

I wonder if it is the same idea as outlook.com? is it more like a online
email client? that will let you get emails from other email addresses
like g mail and so on?

I know in outlook.com there is like a pain you can set when you go to
read the email. It when opened could go below the message above the
message or like on another page. if it was set for below after you
pressed enter on the email then it was a matter of using the say all
command. If it was set like off to the side then I would use the table
command to locate it. But say after you read the email if i remember
right I had to use the alt key and the left arrow key to go back to
where teh messages were, then go to the next one. When I done replies
as well to a message I am sure this could also be set to reply above the
message or below it as well under the settings part.

I guess I will know if I setup a account just to see the steps required
and what has to be done once i locate my details to setup a account.

At present I am using mozilla thunderbird and I like it so the other
would be a look and see what you have to do.

Gene nz

On 10-May-16 8:53 AM, David Moore wrote:
Hi Gene,
I will do the tutorial with NVDA, because of what you have to do to
read the message. Everything works great with NVDA except to read the
message LOL! I am still working with it to find a consistent way to do
this. Thanks for asking, Gene, Take care.


-----Original Message----- From: Gene New Zealand
Sent: Monday, May 9, 2016 4:41 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Hi, from win10 Mail App!

Hi david

Will you be using the nvda screen reader for the audio tutorial? so we
can hear what problems that we might have and how to get arond them? or
the other one?

I was just reading through the stuff from the drop box account to do
with the email client it sounds almost the same as out look.ocm in a
way. I might even have a look and set up a account with nvda to see what
has to be done when I get some free time.

Gene nz


On 09-May-16 4:31 PM, David Moore wrote:
Hi Rosemarie,
I just sent out to the list everything you have to know about using
the win10 mail and calendar apps. I will do a audio tutorial for you
and everyone else. In the next couple of days, I will do that audio
tutorial. Wow, this is so exciting. I just started to mess around with
the win10 mail app, and now, I am ready to do an audio tutorial. Look
for the message I just sent to the entire list with many articles that
take you step by step through different tasks, and there are many key
commands.
David Moore (win10 list moderator)


-----Original Message----- From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Sunday, May 8, 2016 11:11 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Hi, from win10 Mail App!

Hi, David,

Could you do a tutorial on the mail ap for us like you did for google
chrome? That would be great.

Rosemarie



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
David Moore
Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2016 7:09 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Hi, from win10 Mail App!

Hi,
When you are using the win10 mail app, your contacts are imported into
the people app. So, you need to use the people app for your contacts
and addresses, and the mail app to work with the messages. So, you
have the people app and the mail app working together and you should
have them both running at the same time. The Calendar app is very
closely related to the mail app as well. So really, to have it all,
you need the mail, people, and calendar apps running all at the same
time. This is how it differs to other clients. You need three apps
running to have the whole picture.


From: Brian Vogel <mailto:@britechguy>
Sent: Sunday, May 8, 2016 11:25 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Hi, from win10 Mail App!


Jacob,

Since David Moore has also posted elsewhere about this he is
using the new Win10 mail app that ships with every Win10 machine and
shows up on the start menu out of the box.

It's got little in common with earlier e-mail clients other
than the fact that it is used to read mail.


I'm still not able to get message text read using NVDA and the
Win10 mail app, but I'm presuming that this is operator error of some
sort.


Brian
--
Check out my website for nvda tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net


Re: DictationBridge demo up

Kevin Cussick
 

Hi, I have installed the addon, but can't find any keystrokes to get started help please thanks.

On 09/05/2016 17:58, Pranav Lal wrote:
Dear all,

A demonstration version of DictationBridge in the form of a NVDA add-on is up at
http://dictationbridge.com/2016/05/09/dictationbridge-prototype-now-available/

Pranav



Re: embedded object in Firefox

Gene
 

I don't recall if I copied and pasted that character in the first place.  You can avoid unnecessary steps by copying the link the the clipboard,
Opening the browser you want to use, pasting the link in, then simply moving to the end of the link by pressing end.  If there is an incorrect character at the end, simply back space.  You can move around and edit in the address bar as in any other edit field.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2016 3:43 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] embedded object in Firefox

Gene,
 
I’m sure that the method used to remove the linefeed character doesn’t matter but here’s how I did it.
I copied the entire link to the clipboard.
I opened a new notepad plusplus document and pasted the link into it.
Next, I deleted the linefeed character and copied the link to the clipboard.
Finally, I opened firefox, pressed ctrl plus l, pasted the link into the URL edit box and pressed enter.
The link worked at that point.
 
George
 
From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2016 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] embedded object in Firefox
 
I don't know why George could reach it.  I couldn't and I didn't include the return.  But the method he described or some variation is worth trying on any embedded objects where the most straightforward method won't work.  I've used such methods on many embedded objects. 

Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2016 4:25 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] embedded object in Firefox
 
George,

Yes, thanks, this does the job.

Glad you were able to access the url. Others said they could not, even
though I asked them to remove the carriage return as you did.

Strange!

Anyway, I value your response.



All the best,

Cearbhall

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-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of George
McCoy
Sent: Sunday, May 8, 2016 8:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] embedded object in Firefox

Hello Cearbhall,

I'm in the U.S.  I'm running the same version of firefox as you but I am
running Windows 7 home premium with all updates and NVDA 2016.1.

The link you sent worked for me when I eliminated the linefeed character
after the equals sign.
I played several samples.  Here's how I did it.
1.  Arrow to the unavailable embedded object.
2.  Route the mouse to the embedded object with nvda plus numPad slash.
3.  Left click by pressing numPad slash.
I tried three samples and they all played for me using this method.

Give this method a go and let us know if it works on your system.

Good luck,
George

-----Original Message-----
From: Cearbhall O'Meadhra
Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2016 9:06 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] embedded object in Firefox

Hi,

I found a problem in Firefox when attempting to listen to a sample of an
audio book in the BorrowBox library system. I don't know if this is an NVDA
problem or exclusively a Firefox Flash Player issue. or if Bolinda need to
do something with their Java script. I should mention that the sighted user
has no problem playing the audio sample using a mouse.

I am using Windows 10,, NVDA 2016.1 and Firefox46.1 on a desktop PC.

If List members would like to see the problem for themselves I recommend the
following url:
https://fe.bolindadigital.com/wldcs_bol_fo/b2i/productOverview.html?b2bSite=
4834&browseItemId=366096&fromPage=1
It is not necessary to sign in to sample the reading of a title.

Here is a typical audio book display:

--Start of clip -----------------------
link graphic Railway Viaduct
embedded object unavailable (this should say "Preview" but doesn't!) Link
Reserve On Loan, Available on 22/05/16 Link Railway Viaduct Link Edward
Marston Read by Sam Dastor Crime & Thriller, Historical Fiction eAudiobook -
Unabridged ---end of clip ------------------

The player for the audio sample is activated by an "embedded object" that is
flagged by NVDA as "not being available". The BorrowBox help page advises
that Adobe flash must be active to enable audio sampling of each title. I
have Adobe flash installed and active. For example, I can play any song in
YouTube in Firefox without any problem.

After many weeks of failing to play the preview, I found the following
workaround using NVDA:

From the top of the web page select eAudio if not already selected. Then
press "g" to find a book title. If the next   object after pressing
down-arrow once is "embedded Object" then you have an audio book and we can
start.

Here is the full sequence of steps:
1. Press G for the graphic of the book title; 2. Press down-arrow once to
the embedded object. You should hear "Embedded Object not available"; 3.
Press NVDA + numpad Enter to activate the embedded object. You should hear
"Embedded Object Unavailable Activate"; 4. Press right arrow once. You
should hear ""Space"; 5. Press the space bar  to start and stop the sample
audio of the narrator speaking.

If pressing the space bar does not act as a toggle and the enter key does
not do the job either:
6. Press right arrow once;
7. Press space bar or main keyboard enter to play and stop playing the audio
sample.

Can anyone advise what to do about this?
A. Is it an NVDA problem?
B. Is it a Firefox problem?
c. Is it a BorrowBox problem for the developer Bolinda to see to?


All the best,

Cearbhall

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...













Re: DictationBridge demo up

Kevin Cussick
 

thanks for this will test.

On 09/05/2016 17:58, Pranav Lal wrote:
Dear all,

A demonstration version of DictationBridge in the form of a NVDA add-on is up at
http://dictationbridge.com/2016/05/09/dictationbridge-prototype-now-available/

Pranav



Re: Hi, from win10 Mail App!

David Moore
 

Hi Gene,
I will do the tutorial with NVDA, because of what you have to do to read the message. Everything works great with NVDA except to read the message LOL! I am still working with it to find a consistent way to do this. Thanks for asking, Gene, Take care.

-----Original Message-----
From: Gene New Zealand
Sent: Monday, May 9, 2016 4:41 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Hi, from win10 Mail App!

Hi david

Will you be using the nvda screen reader for the audio tutorial? so we
can hear what problems that we might have and how to get arond them? or
the other one?

I was just reading through the stuff from the drop box account to do
with the email client it sounds almost the same as out look.ocm in a
way. I might even have a look and set up a account with nvda to see what
has to be done when I get some free time.

Gene nz


On 09-May-16 4:31 PM, David Moore wrote:
Hi Rosemarie,
I just sent out to the list everything you have to know about using
the win10 mail and calendar apps. I will do a audio tutorial for you
and everyone else. In the next couple of days, I will do that audio
tutorial. Wow, this is so exciting. I just started to mess around with
the win10 mail app, and now, I am ready to do an audio tutorial. Look
for the message I just sent to the entire list with many articles that
take you step by step through different tasks, and there are many key
commands.
David Moore (win10 list moderator)


-----Original Message----- From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Sunday, May 8, 2016 11:11 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Hi, from win10 Mail App!

Hi, David,

Could you do a tutorial on the mail ap for us like you did for google
chrome? That would be great.

Rosemarie



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
David Moore
Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2016 7:09 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Hi, from win10 Mail App!

Hi,
When you are using the win10 mail app, your contacts are imported into
the people app. So, you need to use the people app for your contacts
and addresses, and the mail app to work with the messages. So, you
have the people app and the mail app working together and you should
have them both running at the same time. The Calendar app is very
closely related to the mail app as well. So really, to have it all,
you need the mail, people, and calendar apps running all at the same
time. This is how it differs to other clients. You need three apps
running to have the whole picture.


From: Brian Vogel <mailto:@britechguy>
Sent: Sunday, May 8, 2016 11:25 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Hi, from win10 Mail App!


Jacob,

Since David Moore has also posted elsewhere about this he is
using the new Win10 mail app that ships with every Win10 machine and
shows up on the start menu out of the box.

It's got little in common with earlier e-mail clients other
than the fact that it is used to read mail.


I'm still not able to get message text read using NVDA and the
Win10 mail app, but I'm presuming that this is operator error of some
sort.


Brian
--
Check out my website for nvda tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net


Re: embedded object in Firefox

George <slr1bpz@...>
 

Gene,
 
I’m sure that the method used to remove the linefeed character doesn’t matter but here’s how I did it.
I copied the entire link to the clipboard.
I opened a new notepad plusplus document and pasted the link into it.
Next, I deleted the linefeed character and copied the link to the clipboard.
Finally, I opened firefox, pressed ctrl plus l, pasted the link into the URL edit box and pressed enter.
The link worked at that point.
 
George
 

From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2016 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] embedded object in Firefox
 
I don't know why George could reach it.  I couldn't and I didn't include the return.  But the method he described or some variation is worth trying on any embedded objects where the most straightforward method won't work.  I've used such methods on many embedded objects. 

Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2016 4:25 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] embedded object in Firefox
 
George,

Yes, thanks, this does the job.

Glad you were able to access the url. Others said they could not, even
though I asked them to remove the carriage return as you did.

Strange!

Anyway, I value your response.



All the best,

Cearbhall

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...



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-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of George
McCoy
Sent: Sunday, May 8, 2016 8:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] embedded object in Firefox

Hello Cearbhall,

I'm in the U.S.  I'm running the same version of firefox as you but I am
running Windows 7 home premium with all updates and NVDA 2016.1.

The link you sent worked for me when I eliminated the linefeed character
after the equals sign.
I played several samples.  Here's how I did it.
1.  Arrow to the unavailable embedded object.
2.  Route the mouse to the embedded object with nvda plus numPad slash.
3.  Left click by pressing numPad slash.
I tried three samples and they all played for me using this method.

Give this method a go and let us know if it works on your system.

Good luck,
George

-----Original Message-----
From: Cearbhall O'Meadhra
Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2016 9:06 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] embedded object in Firefox

Hi,

I found a problem in Firefox when attempting to listen to a sample of an
audio book in the BorrowBox library system. I don't know if this is an NVDA
problem or exclusively a Firefox Flash Player issue. or if Bolinda need to
do something with their Java script. I should mention that the sighted user
has no problem playing the audio sample using a mouse.

I am using Windows 10,, NVDA 2016.1 and Firefox46.1 on a desktop PC.

If List members would like to see the problem for themselves I recommend the
following url:
https://fe.bolindadigital.com/wldcs_bol_fo/b2i/productOverview.html?b2bSite=
4834&browseItemId=366096&fromPage=1
It is not necessary to sign in to sample the reading of a title.

Here is a typical audio book display:

--Start of clip -----------------------
link graphic Railway Viaduct
embedded object unavailable (this should say "Preview" but doesn't!) Link
Reserve On Loan, Available on 22/05/16 Link Railway Viaduct Link Edward
Marston Read by Sam Dastor Crime & Thriller, Historical Fiction eAudiobook -
Unabridged ---end of clip ------------------

The player for the audio sample is activated by an "embedded object" that is
flagged by NVDA as "not being available". The BorrowBox help page advises
that Adobe flash must be active to enable audio sampling of each title. I
have Adobe flash installed and active. For example, I can play any song in
YouTube in Firefox without any problem.

After many weeks of failing to play the preview, I found the following
workaround using NVDA:

From the top of the web page select eAudio if not already selected. Then
press "g" to find a book title. If the next   object after pressing
down-arrow once is "embedded Object" then you have an audio book and we can
start.

Here is the full sequence of steps:
1. Press G for the graphic of the book title; 2. Press down-arrow once to
the embedded object. You should hear "Embedded Object not available"; 3.
Press NVDA + numpad Enter to activate the embedded object. You should hear
"Embedded Object Unavailable Activate"; 4. Press right arrow once. You
should hear ""Space"; 5. Press the space bar  to start and stop the sample
audio of the narrator speaking.

If pressing the space bar does not act as a toggle and the enter key does
not do the job either:
6. Press right arrow once;
7. Press space bar or main keyboard enter to play and stop playing the audio
sample.

Can anyone advise what to do about this?
A. Is it an NVDA problem?
B. Is it a Firefox problem?
c. Is it a BorrowBox problem for the developer Bolinda to see to?


All the best,

Cearbhall

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...













Re: Hi, from win10 Mail App!

Kenny Dog <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi david

Will you be using the nvda screen reader for the audio tutorial? so we
can hear what problems that we might have and how to get arond them? or
the other one?

I was just reading through the stuff from the drop box account to do
with the email client it sounds almost the same as out look.ocm in a
way. I might even have a look and set up a account with nvda to see what
has to be done when I get some free time.

Gene nz

On 09-May-16 4:31 PM, David Moore wrote:
Hi Rosemarie,
I just sent out to the list everything you have to know about using
the win10 mail and calendar apps. I will do a audio tutorial for you
and everyone else. In the next couple of days, I will do that audio
tutorial. Wow, this is so exciting. I just started to mess around with
the win10 mail app, and now, I am ready to do an audio tutorial. Look
for the message I just sent to the entire list with many articles that
take you step by step through different tasks, and there are many key
commands.
David Moore (win10 list moderator)


-----Original Message----- From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Sunday, May 8, 2016 11:11 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Hi, from win10 Mail App!

Hi, David,

Could you do a tutorial on the mail ap for us like you did for google
chrome? That would be great.

Rosemarie



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
David Moore
Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2016 7:09 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Hi, from win10 Mail App!

Hi,
When you are using the win10 mail app, your contacts are imported into
the people app. So, you need to use the people app for your contacts
and addresses, and the mail app to work with the messages. So, you
have the people app and the mail app working together and you should
have them both running at the same time. The Calendar app is very
closely related to the mail app as well. So really, to have it all,
you need the mail, people, and calendar apps running all at the same
time. This is how it differs to other clients. You need three apps
running to have the whole picture.


From: Brian Vogel <mailto:@britechguy>
Sent: Sunday, May 8, 2016 11:25 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Hi, from win10 Mail App!


Jacob,

Since David Moore has also posted elsewhere about this he is
using the new Win10 mail app that ships with every Win10 machine and
shows up on the start menu out of the box.

It's got little in common with earlier e-mail clients other
than the fact that it is used to read mail.


I'm still not able to get message text read using NVDA and the
Win10 mail app, but I'm presuming that this is operator error of some
sort.


Brian
--
Check out my website for nvda tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net


Re: DictationBridge demo up

Mallard
 

Ciao Pranav,


Thanks millions.

Ollie

Il 09/05/2016 18:58, Pranav Lal ha scritto:
Dear all,

A demonstration version of DictationBridge in the form of a NVDA add-on is up at
http://dictationbridge.com/2016/05/09/dictationbridge-prototype-now-available/

Pranav




DictationBridge demo up

Pranav Lal
 

Dear all,

A demonstration version of DictationBridge in the form of a NVDA add-on is up at
http://dictationbridge.com/2016/05/09/dictationbridge-prototype-now-available/

Pranav