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Re: Web Page navigation

Brian's Mail list account BY <bglists@...>
 

Yes I was responding to the direct question about using single keys. Strangely some of the other pages on that site are fine, its as if the main page has had its headers stripped out for some weird reason. I'm not a great fan of sites that put read more all over the place as pretty soon you have tabs open all over the place to find simple things out. Why not put a digest on the page to start with.

Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 1:43 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Web Page navigation


If things like headings and the skip blocks of links command don't work, look through the page. See what you might want to use the find command for. Itt's helpful and useful when pages have useable headings but all sorts of people design internet pages. It is important to know how to use the Internet without relying on the kindness of strangers. The find command control NVDA key f, is one of the most valuable and undertaught and underused commands for effective navigation.
On a newsletter I receive, there are no headinggs. But article links and descriptions begin immediately after the word placeholder.
I search for place and I then start tabbing through the article links. I tab instead of down arrow so I won't see all the explanatary text for articles I'm not interested in. I intentionally looked for something that was repetitive and reliavle that would be in the same place on the page and would reliably take me to just about where articles begin. I then used the search command when working with the daily newsletter.

You may find something near whatever you want to find on this or other pages. Also, on many web pages such as newspaper pages, a good way to find a section of the paper is to do a search. Make sure, in this case and in general, that you are at the top of the page. Then search for something you know is there from previously looking at the page or for something you think is a good guesss if you want to try not looking at the page. For example, if the page has and editorials link, searching for edito will take you to it. You may have to repeat the search by using NVDA key f to get to the right place. Usually, typing four and sometimes the first five letters of what you are searching for will move you the the word reliably. There is no need to type long phrases when looking for the kinds of things I am describing.

If you watch for patterns, you can save lots of time on some unfamiliar pages by not having to look through them. Two examples are:
If you are on the home page of a radio station, and all you want to do is listen to the station, most such pages have the word listen in the link. So, making sure you are at the top of the page, searching and repeating the search, if necessary, will move you to the link. Most web sites use the word contact in the link for writing to the site. That's another example.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

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Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 5:30 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Web Page navigation


The web page is rubbish, no headings to navigate with.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: <willmac@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 9:18 AM
Subject: [nvda] Web Page navigation


Hi,

I find it difficult move around in a web page and get NVDA to speak
continually on any given item.

The following is the URL
http://t.digitalnewspaper.co.za/nl/jsp/m.jsp?c=%40fjNSuVTurK7VzhMSOxyzIucXl%2BKsnii1IrXYxuvhTwY%3D

Witch is one of the pages I would like to navigate.

Would it be possible for some kind member to list the short-cut keys
necessary to enable me to do this.

Regards,

William


Re: Firefox 46.0.1 and Webvisum: Working perfectly well!

Mallard
 

I downloaded and installed it, replacing the previous one I had, and it works a treat...

Thanks Gene.

Ciao,

Ollie

Il 12/05/2016 14:17, Gene ha scritto:
That is the site of the developers. That site doesn't have the new version because the developers do nothing with Webvisum except leave the site up and the add on active.
I gave a link to the Blind
Bargains article which explains how to download and install the add on and provides a link to it.
http://www.blindbargains.com/bargains.php?m=15142
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Robert Mendoza <mailto:lowvisiontek@...>
*Sent:* Thursday, May 12, 2016 2:58 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Firefox 46.0.1 and Webvisum: Working perfectly well!

Just want to ensure that the site is correct. Below is the link:
http://www.webvisum.com/

Robert Mendoza
On 5/12/2016 8:32 AM, Robert Mendoza wrote:

I tried earlier to install the said addons but no luck at all. I pressed to allow it by pressing Alt plus A but, it keeps me prompted such dialog in Mozilla Firefox, and currently running version (46.0.1)

Robert Mendoza
On 5/12/2016 8:12 AM, Gene wrote:
That's good.
Gene
*----- original Message -----*
*From:* Lino Morales <mailto:linomorales001@...>
*Sent:* Wednesday, May 11, 2016 10:53 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Firefox 46.0.1 and Webvisum: Working perfectly well!

Well Gene I did download and install it yesterday. Its working well.


On 5/11/2016 9:35 AM, Gene wrote:
It is valid to raise questions about something if you don't know whether the author is trustworthy. Someone could design a malicious add on. But instead of just expressing doubt or a question, asking for more information from the list would make much more sense. The person raising doubts may not know of james Schole's (spelling) reputation. But once informed, the reputation speaks for itself.
There is no criminality nor slander nor libel involved. But instead of just expressing doubts, reliable information should be sought.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Mallard <mailto:mallard@...>
*Sent:* Wednesday, May 11, 2016 8:29 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Firefox 46.0.1 and Webvisum: Working perfectly well!

How absurd! How can one accuse someone of malicious intentions without
evidence of that whatsoever? I tell you... One must be quite arrogant to
do so!

If I were the person accused, I would simply take the accuser to courts
in no time at all...

I think one should be very careful with the rumors one spreads about others.


Ciao,

Ollie





Il 11/05/2016 03:54, Kwork ha scritto:
Hi,
The couple of times I've used the add-on since the recent signing
have
been met with success. I've known James on and off for a few years
now, and find him to be a decent human being, and an end computer
user
out of the UK just trying to help keep life as accessible for us
as he
can with his programming knowledge.
Travis
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Gene <mailto:gsasner@...>
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Sent:* Tuesday, May 10, 2016 12:46 PM
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Firefox 46.0.1 and Webvisum: Working
perfectly well!

I don't know him in a personal sense either. I know his reputation.
I follow two blind technology discussion lists aside from this
one and
I know that many people are using it. I haven't seen one complaint.
Perhaps others will vouch for him and the add on.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Lino Morales <mailto:linomorales001@...>
*Sent:* Tuesday, May 10, 2016 2:37 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Firefox 46.0.1 and Webvisum: Working
perfectly well!

Good. Glad you aren't giving me a hard time. Mods shouldn't do so on
any list list anyway unless the mod he/she is a complete a$$$ by
nature. I just simply don't trust it that's all. I guess one way to
see if it truly works under FF 46 is to download it. I don't know
the
guy. I guess that's part of why I'm hesitant to get it.


On 5/10/2016 3:33 PM, Gene wrote:
So you are suspicious that James Scholes is intentionally
turning the
add on into something malicious? Based on his reputation, that's
just groundless.
I haven't checked to see who else has written about the add on but
Blind Bargains has. They are a respected source and I hardly think
they would wrecklessly provide information about add ons or other
such items.
Saying that's just my opinion, as though all opinions are equal is
not correct. You provide no grouds for your opinion except
suspicion. I have provided the reputation of the person who had
the
add on signed, it's excellent, and the reputation of a source that
spread information about the add on.
I'm not trying to give you a hard time but, given the amount of
interest in Webvisum, I want to discourage unfounded suspicion.
gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Lino Morales <mailto:linomorales001@...>
*Sent:* Tuesday, May 10, 2016 2:14 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Firefox 46.0.1 and Webvisum: Working
perfectly
well!

Well OK this is your opinion. It was James Sholes, but still I
don't
care what rigamarole he whent though to sign it. Chris Taught the
former programmer of the Qube is in the process of writing a CAPTIA
solver. I'm hoping to see it's release soon. It will work with
FF, IE
11, and IOS later on down the road.


On 5/10/2016 3:03 PM, Gene wrote:
The, as you characterize it, convoluted add on is not one. it was
taken through the signing procedure by a respected and trusted
member of the blind computer using community. Nothing was changed
except that it is signed in a way Firefox recognizes as
legitimate.
I don't remember the name now, but numerous members of this
community will vouch for him. There is no reason to believe
the add
on is unsafe.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Lino Morales <mailto:linomorales001@...>
*Sent:* Tuesday, May 10, 2016 1:44 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Firefox 46.0.1 and Webvisum: Working
perfectly
well!

If you try and download it off the Web Visum site FF will sill
prevent
you from downloading a unverified add-on. I don't trust this as
Brian
said "convoluted add-on".


On 5/10/2016 9:12 AM, Mallard wrote:
Oh, that's really great! Finally! We won't have to worry
about losing
it any longer then...

Ciao,

Ollie





Il 10/05/2016 12:53, Ron Canazzi ha scritto:

Somebody signed it through the convoluted process of doing
that for
Mozilla and it now works.



On 5/10/2016 6:21 AM, Mallard wrote:
Hello all,

I've just updated to Firefox 46.0.1, thinking that Webvisum
would
stop working. I was ready to set up a portable of an older
version,
but... SURPRISE! Webvisum is working as usual...
Good news!
Ciao,
Ollie



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Re: mOUSE pOINTER

Gene
 

This has nothing to do with the mouse pointer.  You evidently want to read from where the virtual cursor is in browse mode.  The command is NVDA key down arrow if you are using the default desktop layout.  This is the read to end command that works in word processors or in any standard multiline edit fieldd.  I don't know how much you know about NVDA but if you know little, I would suggest using a tutorial or the user guide, if you prefer.  Also, there is a command reference in the help section of the program.  You may save yourself a lot of trouble and inconvenience learning in an organized manner.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 8:30 AM
Subject: [nvda] mOUSE pOINTER

Hi,
Is there some simple NVDA key short cut which will have NVDA speak from where the cursor or mouse pointer is located?
 
Regards,
 
William


NVDA bug in Chrome

Øyvind Lode
 

Hello:

NVDA doesn't speak nor output Braille when composing a new email in
gmail (standard view).
This applies to the message body edit box.
No feedback when typing and also no feedback when trying to review
what I've written.
To: and Subject works fine.
I'm running NVDA 2016.1 and latest Chrome 50.x.
It works fine in latest Firefox 46.x.

Is this a NVDA bug or a bug in Chrome?

Thanks,

Øyvind


mOUSE pOINTER

willmac@lantic.net
 

Hi,
Is there some simple NVDA key short cut which will have NVDA speak from where the cursor or mouse pointer is located?
 
Regards,
 
William


Re: Web Page navigation

Bhavya shah
 

hi Gene,
One of the things I have significantly learnt by reading yours and
others postings, is the underrated 'n' command to skip blocks of
links. It has proved extremely useful on pages where I want to read
some text as opposed to navigation abd browsing and exploration, such
as an article, description or something of that sort, and I
particularly use that on pages with no good headings, sections or
thinkable keystrokes to directly press.
I would strongly recommend others to try and make a conscious use of
this command sometimes, and you will realize its potential and the
power it provides.
Thanks.

On 5/12/16, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
I don't know what you are searching for so I can't comment speciffically.
If you know what you want to find, then of course, the find command is very
useful. If you aren't sure, it may not be, at least looking in that way.
In this case, you may have to use a method I've described to move to the
beginning of articles. Then if you want to move from article to article.
tab through the links.

You will then skip all explanatory text.

gene
----- Original Message -----
From: willmac@...
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 7:31 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Web Page navigation


Hi Gene,

Thanks. I will work on this and see how I manage. First attempts are a bit
discouraging.
Am not getting same responses as you suggest.
Regards,

William


------ Original Message ------
From: "Gene New Zealand" <hurrikennyandopo@...>
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Sent: 2016/05/12 11:03:11 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Web Page navigation
Hi William

it does not look as though you have many single letter navigation keys you
can use even in the news letter.

The letter k will take you to any links in the email. Where the links take
you to another web page on the one or 2 I went to you could use the letter H
to jump down by headings, k for links and g for graphics. If you are using a
desktop pc the nvda key and the down arrow key will read out the page for
you. If you are also new to browsing using the alt key + the left arrow key
will take you back a page and the alt and right arrow key will take you
forwards a page.

This is only if you have been to those pages first.

For other webpages you might be able to use the full list from the user
manual this will change from website to website.

The part in the user manual is 6.1. Single Letter Navigation

Gene nz



On 12-May-16 8:18 PM, willmac@... wrote:

Hi,

I find it difficult move around in a web page and get NVDA to speak
continually on any given item.

The following is the URL
http://t.digitalnewspaper.co.za/nl/jsp/m.jsp?c=%40fjNSuVTurK7VzhMSOxyzIucXl%2BKsnii1IrXYxuvhTwY%3D

Witch is one of the pages I would like to navigate.

Would it be possible for some kind member to list the short-cut keys
necessary to enable me to do this.

Regards,

William


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Re: Web Page navigation

Gene
 

I don't know what you are searching for so I can't comment speciffically.  If you know what you want to find, then of course, the find command is very useful.  If you aren't sure, it may not be, at least looking in that way.  In this case, you may have to use a method I've described to move to the beginning of articles.  Then if you want to move from article to article. tab through the links. 
 
You will then skip all explanatory text.
 
gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 7:31 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Web Page navigation

Hi Gene,
 
Thanks. I will work on this and see how I manage. First attempts are a bit discouraging.
Am not getting same responses as you suggest.
Regards,
 
William
 
 
------ Original Message ------
From: "Gene New Zealand" <hurrikennyandopo@...>
Sent: 2016/05/12 11:03:11 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Web Page navigation
Hi William

it does not look as though you have many single letter navigation keys you can use even in the news letter.

The letter k will take you to any links in the email. Where the links take you to another web page on the one or 2 I went to you could use the letter H to jump down by headings, k for links and g for graphics. If you are using a desktop pc the nvda key and the down arrow key will read out the page for you. If you are also new to browsing using the alt key + the left arrow key will take you back a page and the alt and right arrow key will take you forwards a page.

This is only if you have been to those pages first.

For other webpages you might be able to use the full list from the user manual this will change from website to website.

The part in the user manual is 6.1. Single Letter Navigation

Gene nz


On 12-May-16 8:18 PM, willmac@... wrote:
Hi,
 
I find it difficult move around in a web page and get NVDA to speak continually on any given item.
 
 
Witch is one of the pages I would like to navigate.
 
Would it be possible for some kind member to list the short-cut keys necessary to enable me to do this.
 
Regards,

William

-- 
Check out my website for nvda tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net


Re: Web Page navigation

Gene
 

Also, on a page like this, the skip blocks of links command may be useful and convenient.  If you are at the top of the page. using it twice on this page takes you to the start of the text that actually begins the news content.  If you look at the page, you will find that you have skipped many links using this very convenient method.  Simply make sure you are at the top of the page and type the letter n twice.  Then start reading or moving down the page in whatever way you want. 
 
Gene

Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 3:18 AM
Subject: [nvda] Web Page navigation

Hi,
 
I find it difficult move around in a web page and get NVDA to speak continually on any given item.
 
 
Witch is one of the pages I would like to navigate.
 
Would it be possible for some kind member to list the short-cut keys necessary to enable me to do this.
 
Regards,

William


Re: Web Page navigation

Gene
 

If things like headings and the skip blocks of links command don't work, look through the page.  See what you might want to use the find command for.  Itt's helpful and useful when pages have useable headings but all sorts of people design internet pages.  It is important to know how to use the Internet without relying on the kindness of strangers.  The find command control NVDA key f, is one of the most valuable and undertaught and underused commands for effective navigation.
On a newsletter I receive, there are no headinggs.  But article links and descriptions begin immediately after the word placeholder.
I search for place and I then start tabbing through the article links.  I tab instead of down arrow so I won't see all the explanatary text for articles I'm not interested in.  I intentionally looked for something that was repetitive and reliavle that would be in the same place on the page and would reliably take me to just about where articles begin.  I then used the search command when working with the daily newsletter. 
 
You may find something near whatever you want to find on this or other pages.  Also, on many web pages such as newspaper pages, a good way to find a section of the paper is to do a search.  Make sure, in this case and in general, that you are at the top of the page.  Then search for something you know is there from previously looking at the page or for something you think is a good guesss if you want to try not looking at the page.  For example, if the page has and editorials link, searching for edito will take you to it.  You may have to repeat the search by using NVDA key f to get to the right place.  Usually, typing four and sometimes the first five letters of what you are searching for will move you the the word reliably.  There is no need to type long phrases when looking for the kinds of things I am describing.
 
If you watch for patterns, you can save lots of time on some unfamiliar pages by not having to look through them.  Two examples are:
If you are on the home page of a radio station, and all you want to do is listen to the station, most such pages have the word listen in the link.  So, making sure you are at the top of the page, searching and repeating the search, if necessary, will move you to the link.  Most web sites use the word contact in the link for writing to the site.  That's another example.  
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 5:30 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Web Page navigation

The web page is rubbish, no headings to navigate with.
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: <willmac@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 9:18 AM
Subject: [nvda] Web Page navigation


Hi,

I find it difficult move around in a web page and get NVDA to speak
continually on any given item.

The following is the URL
http://t.digitalnewspaper.co.za/nl/jsp/m.jsp?c=%40fjNSuVTurK7VzhMSOxyzIucXl%2BKsnii1IrXYxuvhTwY%3D

Witch is one of the pages I would like to navigate.

Would it be possible for some kind member to list the short-cut keys
necessary to enable me to do this.

Regards,

William




Re: Web Page navigation

willmac@lantic.net
 

Hi Gene,
 
Thanks. I will work on this and see how I manage. First attempts are a bit discouraging.
Am not getting same responses as you suggest.
Regards,
 
William
 
 

------ Original Message ------
From: "Gene New Zealand" <hurrikennyandopo@...>
Sent: 2016/05/12 11:03:11 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Web Page navigation
Hi William

it does not look as though you have many single letter navigation keys you can use even in the news letter.

The letter k will take you to any links in the email. Where the links take you to another web page on the one or 2 I went to you could use the letter H to jump down by headings, k for links and g for graphics. If you are using a desktop pc the nvda key and the down arrow key will read out the page for you. If you are also new to browsing using the alt key + the left arrow key will take you back a page and the alt and right arrow key will take you forwards a page.

This is only if you have been to those pages first.

For other webpages you might be able to use the full list from the user manual this will change from website to website.

The part in the user manual is 6.1. Single Letter Navigation

Gene nz


On 12-May-16 8:18 PM, willmac@... wrote:
Hi,
 
I find it difficult move around in a web page and get NVDA to speak continually on any given item.
 
 
Witch is one of the pages I would like to navigate.
 
Would it be possible for some kind member to list the short-cut keys necessary to enable me to do this.
 
Regards,

William

-- 
Check out my website for nvda tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net


Re: Firefox 46.0.1 and Webvisum: Working perfectly well!

Gene
 

That is the site of the developers.  That site doesn't have the new version because the developers do nothing with Webvisum except leave the site up and the add on active.
 
I gave a link to the Blind
Bargains article which explains how to download and install the add on and provides a link to it.
 
Gene
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 2:58 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox 46.0.1 and Webvisum: Working perfectly well!

Just want to ensure that the site is correct. Below is the link:
http://www.webvisum.com/

Robert Mendoza
On 5/12/2016 8:32 AM, Robert Mendoza wrote:

I tried earlier to install the said addons but no luck at all. I pressed to allow it by pressing Alt plus A but, it keeps me prompted such dialog in Mozilla Firefox, and currently running version (46.0.1)

Robert Mendoza
On 5/12/2016 8:12 AM, Gene wrote:
That's good.
 
Gene
----- original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 10:53 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox 46.0.1 and Webvisum: Working perfectly well!

Well Gene I did download and install it yesterday. Its working well.


On 5/11/2016 9:35 AM, Gene wrote:
It is valid to raise questions about something if you don't know whether the author is trustworthy.  Someone could design a malicious add on.  But instead of just expressing doubt or a question, asking for more information from the list would make much more sense.  The person raising doubts may not know of james Schole's (spelling) reputation.  But once informed, the reputation speaks for itself. 
 
There is no criminality nor slander nor libel involved.  But instead of just expressing doubts, reliable information should be sought.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Mallard
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 8:29 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox 46.0.1 and Webvisum: Working perfectly well!

How absurd! How can one accuse someone of malicious intentions without
evidence of that whatsoever? I tell you... One must be quite arrogant to
do so!

If I were the person accused, I would simply take the accuser to courts
in no time at all...

I think one should be very careful with the rumors one spreads about others.


Ciao,

Ollie





Il 11/05/2016 03:54, Kwork ha scritto:
> Hi,
> The couple of times I've used the add-on since the recent signing have
> been met with success. I've known James on and off for a few years
> now, and find him to be a decent human being, and an end computer user
> out of the UK just trying to help keep life as accessible for us as he
> can with his programming knowledge.
> Travis
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Gene <mailto:gsasner@...>
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 10, 2016 12:46 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Firefox 46.0.1 and Webvisum: Working perfectly well!
>
> I don't know him in a personal sense either.  I know his reputation. 
> I follow two blind technology discussion lists aside from this one and
> I know that many people are using it.  I haven't seen one complaint. 
> Perhaps others will vouch for him and the add on.
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Lino Morales <mailto:linomorales001@...>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 10, 2016 2:37 PM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Firefox 46.0.1 and Webvisum: Working perfectly well!
>
> Good. Glad you aren't giving me a hard time. Mods shouldn't do so on
> any list list anyway unless the mod he/she is a complete a$$$ by
> nature. I just simply don't trust it that's all. I guess one way to
> see if it truly works under FF 46 is to download it. I don't know the
> guy. I guess that's part of why I'm hesitant to get it.
>
>
> On 5/10/2016 3:33 PM, Gene wrote:
>> So you are suspicious that James Scholes is intentionally turning the
>> add on into something malicious?  Based on his reputation, that's
>> just groundless.
>> I haven't checked to see who else has written about the add on but
>> Blind Bargains has.  They are a respected source and I hardly think
>> they would wrecklessly provide information about add ons or other
>> such items.
>> Saying that's just my opinion, as though all opinions are equal is
>> not correct.  You provide no grouds for your opinion except
>> suspicion.  I have provided the reputation of the person who had the
>> add on signed, it's excellent, and the reputation of a source that
>> spread information about the add on.
>> I'm not trying to give you a hard time but, given the amount of
>> interest in Webvisum, I want to discourage unfounded suspicion.
>> gene
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Lino Morales <mailto:linomorales001@...>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 10, 2016 2:14 PM
>> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Firefox 46.0.1 and Webvisum: Working perfectly
>> well!
>>
>> Well OK this is your opinion. It was James Sholes, but still I don't
>> care what rigamarole he whent though to sign it. Chris Taught the
>> former programmer of the Qube is in the process of writing a CAPTIA
>> solver. I'm hoping to see it's release soon. It will work with FF, IE
>> 11, and IOS later on down the road.
>>
>>
>> On 5/10/2016 3:03 PM, Gene wrote:
>>> The, as you characterize it, convoluted add on is not one.  it was
>>> taken through the signing procedure by a respected and trusted
>>> member of the blind computer using community.  Nothing was changed
>>> except that it is signed in a way Firefox recognizes as legitimate. 
>>> I don't remember the name now, but numerous members of this
>>> community will vouch for him.  There is no reason to believe the add
>>> on is unsafe.
>>> Gene
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> *From:* Lino Morales <mailto:linomorales001@...>
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 10, 2016 1:44 PM
>>> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Firefox 46.0.1 and Webvisum: Working perfectly
>>> well!
>>>
>>> If you try and download it off the Web Visum site FF will sill prevent
>>> you from downloading a unverified add-on. I don't trust this as Brian
>>> said "convoluted add-on".
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/10/2016 9:12 AM, Mallard wrote:
>>> > Oh, that's really great! Finally! We won't have to worry about losing
>>> > it any longer then...
>>> >
>>> > Ciao,
>>> >
>>> > Ollie
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Il 10/05/2016 12:53, Ron Canazzi ha scritto:
>>> >>
>>> >> Somebody signed it through the convoluted process of doing that for
>>> >> Mozilla and it now works.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On 5/10/2016 6:21 AM, Mallard wrote:
>>> >>> Hello all,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I've just updated to Firefox 46.0.1, thinking that Webvisum would
>>> >>> stop working. I was ready to set up a portable of an older version,
>>> >>> but... SURPRISE! Webvisum is working as usual...
>>> >>> Good news!
>>> >>> Ciao,
>>> >>> Ollie
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>
>>> >> --
>>> >> They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
>>> >> They ask: "How Happy are You?"
>>> >> I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>







Re: NVDA and Libreoffice spreadsheets

 

hi.
i press f2 to navigate and also in this situation, edit mode is activated.
if you press scape, you are in normal mode and only you can read, but not edit!
hope thats help.
thanks and god bless you.
thanks for asking!

On 5/12/16, Dan Beaver <dbeaver888@...> wrote:
Hi,


Is it possible to have NVDA announce cell and row coordinates
automatically as I move from cell to cell or from row to row?


If so how?


I am using the latest NVDA(not a snapshot) anmd Libreoffice 5.1.2.2
under windows 10.


Thanks.


Dan Beaver




--
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written down with them in the Taurat and the Injeel [who] enjoins them
good and forbids them evil, and makes lawful to them the good things
and makes unlawful to them impure things, and removes from them their
burden and the shackles which were upon them; so [as for] those who
believe in him and honor him and help him, and follow the light which
has been sent down with him, these it is that are the successful.
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Re: Web Page navigation

Brian's Mail list account BY <bglists@...>
 

The web page is rubbish, no headings to navigate with.
Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.

----- Original Message -----
From: <willmac@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 9:18 AM
Subject: [nvda] Web Page navigation


Hi,

I find it difficult move around in a web page and get NVDA to speak
continually on any given item.

The following is the URL
http://t.digitalnewspaper.co.za/nl/jsp/m.jsp?c=%40fjNSuVTurK7VzhMSOxyzIucXl%2BKsnii1IrXYxuvhTwY%3D

Witch is one of the pages I would like to navigate.

Would it be possible for some kind member to list the short-cut keys
necessary to enable me to do this.

Regards,

William


Re: Firefox 46.0.1 and Webvisum: Working perfectly well!

Brian's Mail list account BY <bglists@...>
 

As I said in another thread the new 47 is rubbish for being slow and not letting navigational sounds actually make any noise. I note it says something about optimised for multi processor systems, well that may well be, but even on those the sounds do not work, and I find this very valuable on downloads so I know its worked.
Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 5:10 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox 46.0.1 and Webvisum: Working perfectly well!


You may have to find the actual item and activate it. I have found such shortcut commands to be unreliable. Some work and some don't

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Robert Mendoza
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 7:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox 46.0.1 and Webvisum: Working perfectly well!


I tried earlier to install the said addons but no luck at all. I pressed to allow it by pressing Alt plus A but, it keeps me prompted such dialog in Mozilla Firefox, and currently running version (46.0.1)


Robert MendozaOn 5/12/2016 8:12 AM, Gene wrote:

That's good.

Gene

----- original Message -----
From: Lino Morales
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 10:53 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox 46.0.1 and Webvisum: Working perfectly well!


Well Gene I did download and install it yesterday. Its working well.




On 5/11/2016 9:35 AM, Gene wrote:

It is valid to raise questions about something if you don't know whether the author is trustworthy. Someone could design a malicious add on. But instead of just expressing doubt or a question, asking for more information from the list would make much more sense. The person raising doubts may not know of james Schole's (spelling) reputation. But once informed, the reputation speaks for itself.

There is no criminality nor slander nor libel involved. But instead of just expressing doubts, reliable information should be sought.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Mallard
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 8:29 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox 46.0.1 and Webvisum: Working perfectly well!


How absurd! How can one accuse someone of malicious intentions without
evidence of that whatsoever? I tell you... One must be quite arrogant to
do so!

If I were the person accused, I would simply take the accuser to courts
in no time at all...

I think one should be very careful with the rumors one spreads about others.


Ciao,

Ollie





Il 11/05/2016 03:54, Kwork ha scritto:
> Hi,
> The couple of times I've used the add-on since the recent signing have
> been met with success. I've known James on and off for a few years
> now, and find him to be a decent human being, and an end computer user
> out of the UK just trying to help keep life as accessible for us as he
> can with his programming knowledge.
> Travis
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Gene <mailto:gsasner@...>
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 10, 2016 12:46 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Firefox 46.0.1 and Webvisum: Working perfectly well!
>
> I don't know him in a personal sense either. I know his reputation.
> I follow two blind technology discussion lists aside from this one and
> I know that many people are using it. I haven't seen one complaint.
> Perhaps others will vouch for him and the add on.
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Lino Morales <mailto:linomorales001@...>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 10, 2016 2:37 PM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Firefox 46.0.1 and Webvisum: Working perfectly well!
>
> Good. Glad you aren't giving me a hard time. Mods shouldn't do so on
> any list list anyway unless the mod he/she is a complete a$$$ by
> nature. I just simply don't trust it that's all. I guess one way to
> see if it truly works under FF 46 is to download it. I don't know the
> guy. I guess that's part of why I'm hesitant to get it.
>
>
> On 5/10/2016 3:33 PM, Gene wrote:
>> So you are suspicious that James Scholes is intentionally turning the
>> add on into something malicious? Based on his reputation, that's
>> just groundless.
>> I haven't checked to see who else has written about the add on but
>> Blind Bargains has. They are a respected source and I hardly think
>> they would wrecklessly provide information about add ons or other
>> such items.
>> Saying that's just my opinion, as though all opinions are equal is
>> not correct. You provide no grouds for your opinion except
>> suspicion. I have provided the reputation of the person who had the
>> add on signed, it's excellent, and the reputation of a source that
>> spread information about the add on.
>> I'm not trying to give you a hard time but, given the amount of
>> interest in Webvisum, I want to discourage unfounded suspicion.
>> gene
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Lino Morales <mailto:linomorales001@...>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 10, 2016 2:14 PM
>> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Firefox 46.0.1 and Webvisum: Working perfectly
>> well!
>>
>> Well OK this is your opinion. It was James Sholes, but still I don't
>> care what rigamarole he whent though to sign it. Chris Taught the
>> former programmer of the Qube is in the process of writing a CAPTIA
>> solver. I'm hoping to see it's release soon. It will work with FF, IE
>> 11, and IOS later on down the road.
>>
>>
>> On 5/10/2016 3:03 PM, Gene wrote:
>>> The, as you characterize it, convoluted add on is not one. it was
>>> taken through the signing procedure by a respected and trusted
>>> member of the blind computer using community. Nothing was changed
>>> except that it is signed in a way Firefox recognizes as legitimate.
>>> I don't remember the name now, but numerous members of this
>>> community will vouch for him. There is no reason to believe the add
>>> on is unsafe.
>>> Gene
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> *From:* Lino Morales <mailto:linomorales001@...>
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 10, 2016 1:44 PM
>>> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Firefox 46.0.1 and Webvisum: Working perfectly
>>> well!
>>>
>>> If you try and download it off the Web Visum site FF will sill prevent
>>> you from downloading a unverified add-on. I don't trust this as Brian
>>> said "convoluted add-on".
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/10/2016 9:12 AM, Mallard wrote:
>>> > Oh, that's really great! Finally! We won't have to worry about losing
>>> > it any longer then...
>>> >
>>> > Ciao,
>>> >
>>> > Ollie
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Il 10/05/2016 12:53, Ron Canazzi ha scritto:
>>> >>
>>> >> Somebody signed it through the convoluted process of doing that for
>>> >> Mozilla and it now works.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On 5/10/2016 6:21 AM, Mallard wrote:
>>> >>> Hello all,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I've just updated to Firefox 46.0.1, thinking that Webvisum would
>>> >>> stop working. I was ready to set up a portable of an older version,
>>> >>> but... SURPRISE! Webvisum is working as usual...
>>> >>> Good news!
>>> >>> Ciao,
>>> >>> Ollie
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>
>>> >> --
>>> >> They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
>>> >> They ask: "How Happy are You?"
>>> >> I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>


Alva Braille display and NVDA

Nightowl <nightowl145@...>
 

Hi,
 
I am trying to get my old Alva 570 Braille display to work with NVDA - so far without success. It just says Waiting for Connection. I have lost the original software CD that came with the Alva, so am using brltty. Maybe I got the wrong version of brltty. I would be grateful for suggestions on how to make the Alva work with NVDA as my hearing is not so good nowadays and I would like to make more use of Braille. Also, if anyone has the software CD for the Alva 570 and is willing to upload it somewhere for me to download, I would be most grateful. I can't seem to find Alva drivers, etc anywhere on the internet.
 
Thank you.
 
Nightowl


Re: Web Page navigation

Kenny Dog <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi William

it does not look as though you have many single letter navigation keys you can use even in the news letter.

The letter k will take you to any links in the email. Where the links take you to another web page on the one or 2 I went to you could use the letter H to jump down by headings, k for links and g for graphics. If you are using a desktop pc the nvda key and the down arrow key will read out the page for you. If you are also new to browsing using the alt key + the left arrow key will take you back a page and the alt and right arrow key will take you forwards a page.

This is only if you have been to those pages first.

For other webpages you might be able to use the full list from the user manual this will change from website to website.

The part in the user manual is 6.1. Single Letter Navigation

Gene nz


On 12-May-16 8:18 PM, willmac@... wrote:
Hi,
 
I find it difficult move around in a web page and get NVDA to speak continually on any given item.
 
 
Witch is one of the pages I would like to navigate.
 
Would it be possible for some kind member to list the short-cut keys necessary to enable me to do this.
 
Regards,

William

-- 
Check out my website for nvda tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net


Web Page navigation

willmac@lantic.net
 

Hi,
 
I find it difficult move around in a web page and get NVDA to speak continually on any given item.
 
 
Witch is one of the pages I would like to navigate.
 
Would it be possible for some kind member to list the short-cut keys necessary to enable me to do this.
 
Regards,

William


Re: Firefox 46.0.1 and Webvisum: Working perfectly well!

Robert Mendoza
 

Just want to ensure that the site is correct. Below is the link:
http://www.webvisum.com/

Robert Mendoza
On 5/12/2016 8:32 AM, Robert Mendoza wrote:

I tried earlier to install the said addons but no luck at all. I pressed to allow it by pressing Alt plus A but, it keeps me prompted such dialog in Mozilla Firefox, and currently running version (46.0.1)

Robert Mendoza
On 5/12/2016 8:12 AM, Gene wrote:
That's good.
 
Gene
----- original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 10:53 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox 46.0.1 and Webvisum: Working perfectly well!

Well Gene I did download and install it yesterday. Its working well.


On 5/11/2016 9:35 AM, Gene wrote:
It is valid to raise questions about something if you don't know whether the author is trustworthy.  Someone could design a malicious add on.  But instead of just expressing doubt or a question, asking for more information from the list would make much more sense.  The person raising doubts may not know of james Schole's (spelling) reputation.  But once informed, the reputation speaks for itself. 
 
There is no criminality nor slander nor libel involved.  But instead of just expressing doubts, reliable information should be sought.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Mallard
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 8:29 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox 46.0.1 and Webvisum: Working perfectly well!

How absurd! How can one accuse someone of malicious intentions without
evidence of that whatsoever? I tell you... One must be quite arrogant to
do so!

If I were the person accused, I would simply take the accuser to courts
in no time at all...

I think one should be very careful with the rumors one spreads about others.


Ciao,

Ollie





Il 11/05/2016 03:54, Kwork ha scritto:
> Hi,
> The couple of times I've used the add-on since the recent signing have
> been met with success. I've known James on and off for a few years
> now, and find him to be a decent human being, and an end computer user
> out of the UK just trying to help keep life as accessible for us as he
> can with his programming knowledge.
> Travis
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Gene <mailto:gsasner@...>
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 10, 2016 12:46 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Firefox 46.0.1 and Webvisum: Working perfectly well!
>
> I don't know him in a personal sense either.  I know his reputation. 
> I follow two blind technology discussion lists aside from this one and
> I know that many people are using it.  I haven't seen one complaint. 
> Perhaps others will vouch for him and the add on.
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Lino Morales <mailto:linomorales001@...>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 10, 2016 2:37 PM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Firefox 46.0.1 and Webvisum: Working perfectly well!
>
> Good. Glad you aren't giving me a hard time. Mods shouldn't do so on
> any list list anyway unless the mod he/she is a complete a$$$ by
> nature. I just simply don't trust it that's all. I guess one way to
> see if it truly works under FF 46 is to download it. I don't know the
> guy. I guess that's part of why I'm hesitant to get it.
>
>
> On 5/10/2016 3:33 PM, Gene wrote:
>> So you are suspicious that James Scholes is intentionally turning the
>> add on into something malicious?  Based on his reputation, that's
>> just groundless.
>> I haven't checked to see who else has written about the add on but
>> Blind Bargains has.  They are a respected source and I hardly think
>> they would wrecklessly provide information about add ons or other
>> such items.
>> Saying that's just my opinion, as though all opinions are equal is
>> not correct.  You provide no grouds for your opinion except
>> suspicion.  I have provided the reputation of the person who had the
>> add on signed, it's excellent, and the reputation of a source that
>> spread information about the add on.
>> I'm not trying to give you a hard time but, given the amount of
>> interest in Webvisum, I want to discourage unfounded suspicion.
>> gene
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Lino Morales <mailto:linomorales001@...>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 10, 2016 2:14 PM
>> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Firefox 46.0.1 and Webvisum: Working perfectly
>> well!
>>
>> Well OK this is your opinion. It was James Sholes, but still I don't
>> care what rigamarole he whent though to sign it. Chris Taught the
>> former programmer of the Qube is in the process of writing a CAPTIA
>> solver. I'm hoping to see it's release soon. It will work with FF, IE
>> 11, and IOS later on down the road.
>>
>>
>> On 5/10/2016 3:03 PM, Gene wrote:
>>> The, as you characterize it, convoluted add on is not one.  it was
>>> taken through the signing procedure by a respected and trusted
>>> member of the blind computer using community.  Nothing was changed
>>> except that it is signed in a way Firefox recognizes as legitimate. 
>>> I don't remember the name now, but numerous members of this
>>> community will vouch for him.  There is no reason to believe the add
>>> on is unsafe.
>>> Gene
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> *From:* Lino Morales <mailto:linomorales001@...>
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 10, 2016 1:44 PM
>>> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Firefox 46.0.1 and Webvisum: Working perfectly
>>> well!
>>>
>>> If you try and download it off the Web Visum site FF will sill prevent
>>> you from downloading a unverified add-on. I don't trust this as Brian
>>> said "convoluted add-on".
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/10/2016 9:12 AM, Mallard wrote:
>>> > Oh, that's really great! Finally! We won't have to worry about losing
>>> > it any longer then...
>>> >
>>> > Ciao,
>>> >
>>> > Ollie
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Il 10/05/2016 12:53, Ron Canazzi ha scritto:
>>> >>
>>> >> Somebody signed it through the convoluted process of doing that for
>>> >> Mozilla and it now works.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On 5/10/2016 6:21 AM, Mallard wrote:
>>> >>> Hello all,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I've just updated to Firefox 46.0.1, thinking that Webvisum would
>>> >>> stop working. I was ready to set up a portable of an older version,
>>> >>> but... SURPRISE! Webvisum is working as usual...
>>> >>> Good news!
>>> >>> Ciao,
>>> >>> Ollie
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>
>>> >> --
>>> >> They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
>>> >> They ask: "How Happy are You?"
>>> >> I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>







Re: Firefox 46.0.1 and Webvisum: Working perfectly well!

Gene
 

You may have to find the actual item and activate it.  I have found such shortcut commands to be unreliable.  Some work and some don't
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 7:32 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox 46.0.1 and Webvisum: Working perfectly well!

I tried earlier to install the said addons but no luck at all. I pressed to allow it by pressing Alt plus A but, it keeps me prompted such dialog in Mozilla Firefox, and currently running version (46.0.1)

Robert Mendoza
On 5/12/2016 8:12 AM, Gene wrote:
That's good.
 
Gene
----- original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 10:53 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox 46.0.1 and Webvisum: Working perfectly well!

Well Gene I did download and install it yesterday. Its working well.


On 5/11/2016 9:35 AM, Gene wrote:
It is valid to raise questions about something if you don't know whether the author is trustworthy.  Someone could design a malicious add on.  But instead of just expressing doubt or a question, asking for more information from the list would make much more sense.  The person raising doubts may not know of james Schole's (spelling) reputation.  But once informed, the reputation speaks for itself. 
 
There is no criminality nor slander nor libel involved.  But instead of just expressing doubts, reliable information should be sought.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Mallard
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 8:29 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox 46.0.1 and Webvisum: Working perfectly well!

How absurd! How can one accuse someone of malicious intentions without
evidence of that whatsoever? I tell you... One must be quite arrogant to
do so!

If I were the person accused, I would simply take the accuser to courts
in no time at all...

I think one should be very careful with the rumors one spreads about others.


Ciao,

Ollie





Il 11/05/2016 03:54, Kwork ha scritto:
> Hi,
> The couple of times I've used the add-on since the recent signing have
> been met with success. I've known James on and off for a few years
> now, and find him to be a decent human being, and an end computer user
> out of the UK just trying to help keep life as accessible for us as he
> can with his programming knowledge.
> Travis
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Gene <mailto:gsasner@...>
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 10, 2016 12:46 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Firefox 46.0.1 and Webvisum: Working perfectly well!
>
> I don't know him in a personal sense either.  I know his reputation. 
> I follow two blind technology discussion lists aside from this one and
> I know that many people are using it.  I haven't seen one complaint. 
> Perhaps others will vouch for him and the add on.
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Lino Morales <mailto:linomorales001@...>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 10, 2016 2:37 PM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Firefox 46.0.1 and Webvisum: Working perfectly well!
>
> Good. Glad you aren't giving me a hard time. Mods shouldn't do so on
> any list list anyway unless the mod he/she is a complete a$$$ by
> nature. I just simply don't trust it that's all. I guess one way to
> see if it truly works under FF 46 is to download it. I don't know the
> guy. I guess that's part of why I'm hesitant to get it.
>
>
> On 5/10/2016 3:33 PM, Gene wrote:
>> So you are suspicious that James Scholes is intentionally turning the
>> add on into something malicious?  Based on his reputation, that's
>> just groundless.
>> I haven't checked to see who else has written about the add on but
>> Blind Bargains has.  They are a respected source and I hardly think
>> they would wrecklessly provide information about add ons or other
>> such items.
>> Saying that's just my opinion, as though all opinions are equal is
>> not correct.  You provide no grouds for your opinion except
>> suspicion.  I have provided the reputation of the person who had the
>> add on signed, it's excellent, and the reputation of a source that
>> spread information about the add on.
>> I'm not trying to give you a hard time but, given the amount of
>> interest in Webvisum, I want to discourage unfounded suspicion.
>> gene
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Lino Morales <mailto:linomorales001@...>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 10, 2016 2:14 PM
>> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Firefox 46.0.1 and Webvisum: Working perfectly
>> well!
>>
>> Well OK this is your opinion. It was James Sholes, but still I don't
>> care what rigamarole he whent though to sign it. Chris Taught the
>> former programmer of the Qube is in the process of writing a CAPTIA
>> solver. I'm hoping to see it's release soon. It will work with FF, IE
>> 11, and IOS later on down the road.
>>
>>
>> On 5/10/2016 3:03 PM, Gene wrote:
>>> The, as you characterize it, convoluted add on is not one.  it was
>>> taken through the signing procedure by a respected and trusted
>>> member of the blind computer using community.  Nothing was changed
>>> except that it is signed in a way Firefox recognizes as legitimate. 
>>> I don't remember the name now, but numerous members of this
>>> community will vouch for him.  There is no reason to believe the add
>>> on is unsafe.
>>> Gene
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> *From:* Lino Morales <mailto:linomorales001@...>
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 10, 2016 1:44 PM
>>> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Firefox 46.0.1 and Webvisum: Working perfectly
>>> well!
>>>
>>> If you try and download it off the Web Visum site FF will sill prevent
>>> you from downloading a unverified add-on. I don't trust this as Brian
>>> said "convoluted add-on".
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/10/2016 9:12 AM, Mallard wrote:
>>> > Oh, that's really great! Finally! We won't have to worry about losing
>>> > it any longer then...
>>> >
>>> > Ciao,
>>> >
>>> > Ollie
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Il 10/05/2016 12:53, Ron Canazzi ha scritto:
>>> >>
>>> >> Somebody signed it through the convoluted process of doing that for
>>> >> Mozilla and it now works.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On 5/10/2016 6:21 AM, Mallard wrote:
>>> >>> Hello all,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I've just updated to Firefox 46.0.1, thinking that Webvisum would
>>> >>> stop working. I was ready to set up a portable of an older version,
>>> >>> but... SURPRISE! Webvisum is working as usual...
>>> >>> Good news!
>>> >>> Ciao,
>>> >>> Ollie
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>
>>> >> --
>>> >> They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
>>> >> They ask: "How Happy are You?"
>>> >> I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>






Re: Firefox 46.0.1 and Webvisum: Working perfectly well!

Robert Mendoza
 

I tried earlier to install the said addons but no luck at all. I pressed to allow it by pressing Alt plus A but, it keeps me prompted such dialog in Mozilla Firefox, and currently running version (46.0.1)

Robert Mendoza
On 5/12/2016 8:12 AM, Gene wrote:

That's good.
 
Gene
----- original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 10:53 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox 46.0.1 and Webvisum: Working perfectly well!

Well Gene I did download and install it yesterday. Its working well.


On 5/11/2016 9:35 AM, Gene wrote:
It is valid to raise questions about something if you don't know whether the author is trustworthy.  Someone could design a malicious add on.  But instead of just expressing doubt or a question, asking for more information from the list would make much more sense.  The person raising doubts may not know of james Schole's (spelling) reputation.  But once informed, the reputation speaks for itself. 
 
There is no criminality nor slander nor libel involved.  But instead of just expressing doubts, reliable information should be sought.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Mallard
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 8:29 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox 46.0.1 and Webvisum: Working perfectly well!

How absurd! How can one accuse someone of malicious intentions without
evidence of that whatsoever? I tell you... One must be quite arrogant to
do so!

If I were the person accused, I would simply take the accuser to courts
in no time at all...

I think one should be very careful with the rumors one spreads about others.


Ciao,

Ollie





Il 11/05/2016 03:54, Kwork ha scritto:
> Hi,
> The couple of times I've used the add-on since the recent signing have
> been met with success. I've known James on and off for a few years
> now, and find him to be a decent human being, and an end computer user
> out of the UK just trying to help keep life as accessible for us as he
> can with his programming knowledge.
> Travis
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Gene <mailto:gsasner@...>
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 10, 2016 12:46 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Firefox 46.0.1 and Webvisum: Working perfectly well!
>
> I don't know him in a personal sense either.  I know his reputation. 
> I follow two blind technology discussion lists aside from this one and
> I know that many people are using it.  I haven't seen one complaint. 
> Perhaps others will vouch for him and the add on.
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Lino Morales <mailto:linomorales001@...>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 10, 2016 2:37 PM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Firefox 46.0.1 and Webvisum: Working perfectly well!
>
> Good. Glad you aren't giving me a hard time. Mods shouldn't do so on
> any list list anyway unless the mod he/she is a complete a$$$ by
> nature. I just simply don't trust it that's all. I guess one way to
> see if it truly works under FF 46 is to download it. I don't know the
> guy. I guess that's part of why I'm hesitant to get it.
>
>
> On 5/10/2016 3:33 PM, Gene wrote:
>> So you are suspicious that James Scholes is intentionally turning the
>> add on into something malicious?  Based on his reputation, that's
>> just groundless.
>> I haven't checked to see who else has written about the add on but
>> Blind Bargains has.  They are a respected source and I hardly think
>> they would wrecklessly provide information about add ons or other
>> such items.
>> Saying that's just my opinion, as though all opinions are equal is
>> not correct.  You provide no grouds for your opinion except
>> suspicion.  I have provided the reputation of the person who had the
>> add on signed, it's excellent, and the reputation of a source that
>> spread information about the add on.
>> I'm not trying to give you a hard time but, given the amount of
>> interest in Webvisum, I want to discourage unfounded suspicion.
>> gene
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Lino Morales <mailto:linomorales001@...>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 10, 2016 2:14 PM
>> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Firefox 46.0.1 and Webvisum: Working perfectly
>> well!
>>
>> Well OK this is your opinion. It was James Sholes, but still I don't
>> care what rigamarole he whent though to sign it. Chris Taught the
>> former programmer of the Qube is in the process of writing a CAPTIA
>> solver. I'm hoping to see it's release soon. It will work with FF, IE
>> 11, and IOS later on down the road.
>>
>>
>> On 5/10/2016 3:03 PM, Gene wrote:
>>> The, as you characterize it, convoluted add on is not one.  it was
>>> taken through the signing procedure by a respected and trusted
>>> member of the blind computer using community.  Nothing was changed
>>> except that it is signed in a way Firefox recognizes as legitimate. 
>>> I don't remember the name now, but numerous members of this
>>> community will vouch for him.  There is no reason to believe the add
>>> on is unsafe.
>>> Gene
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> *From:* Lino Morales <mailto:linomorales001@...>
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 10, 2016 1:44 PM
>>> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Firefox 46.0.1 and Webvisum: Working perfectly
>>> well!
>>>
>>> If you try and download it off the Web Visum site FF will sill prevent
>>> you from downloading a unverified add-on. I don't trust this as Brian
>>> said "convoluted add-on".
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/10/2016 9:12 AM, Mallard wrote:
>>> > Oh, that's really great! Finally! We won't have to worry about losing
>>> > it any longer then...
>>> >
>>> > Ciao,
>>> >
>>> > Ollie
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Il 10/05/2016 12:53, Ron Canazzi ha scritto:
>>> >>
>>> >> Somebody signed it through the convoluted process of doing that for
>>> >> Mozilla and it now works.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On 5/10/2016 6:21 AM, Mallard wrote:
>>> >>> Hello all,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I've just updated to Firefox 46.0.1, thinking that Webvisum would
>>> >>> stop working. I was ready to set up a portable of an older version,
>>> >>> but... SURPRISE! Webvisum is working as usual...
>>> >>> Good news!
>>> >>> Ciao,
>>> >>> Ollie
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>
>>> >> --
>>> >> They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
>>> >> They ask: "How Happy are You?"
>>> >> I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>