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Re: entering data in Firefox

 

I have seen this in win10 where after putting in a username, nvda does not move to the password field and I have to manually diidle round to get the right field it doesn't happen with v7 of windows.

On 6/10/2016 9:58 p.m., Cearbhall O'Meadhra wrote:
Hi,



Today I tried to log in to our government applications site using NVDA
2016.3 and Firefox 40.0.1 under Windows 10

Here is the url:

https://www.publicjobs.ie/publicjobs/



There are three edit boxes: a search area and then a user name and a
password edit box. Normally, using Firefox, I simply tab to the user name
and press enter to type in the user name. When I went to it this morning,
the edit box sound played as I opened the user name box but I could not type
anything in the box. When I pressed tab to come out of the box, nothing
happened. All I could do was to press escape to bring me back to browse mode
and close the box. I even pressed the sign in button in hopes that I had
entered the user name and password even though I could not monitor that
action, but, again, the button did not react.



I switched over to Internet explorer and pasted in the above url. This time
NVDA reported the usual edit boxes for search user and password and each
opened correctly and echoed my typing. I was able to successfully enter the
user page and continue with my work.



Can anyone explain what has happened to Firefox lately? I am finding this
inertia quite a lot recently. By the way, I have not added anything to
Firefox for the past three months.







All the best,



Cearbhall



m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@blbc.ie








Re: NVDA Remote crash incident: trust and ethics are important just as technology is, never give out passwords publicly, developer responsibilities

 

I read this to joseph.
1. yeah someone gave his public key which is basically giving his userid and password.
The user got his nvda crashed and lost data in ram, which for some stupid reason he hadn't even save.
It was all mindless fun and just users mucking round.
Sadly the same user has gone over the fact that the main dev criss is not responding to feadback and not hiding the public key, etc, etc.
He then decided to post on a public forum complaining about nv remote in general not being secure.
This same user has done this drama before.
He got what he deserved is all I am saying.

You shouldn't give out your security info.

On 11/10/2016 8:40 a.m., Joseph Lee wrote:
Dear NVDA community:



I give you permission to pass out the following to other community members:



Dear users of NVDA Remote Support add-on:



On the morning of October 10, 2016, a group of users connected via
nvdaremote.com experienced a general client crash, with the root of the
problem being a series of events that led to NVDA crashing with long strings
passed to a particular synthesizer. The event unfolded as follows:



In the evening of October 9, 2016, someone posted a message to a public
forum which included giving out his remote client password, with an
"invitation" for anyone to connect to his computer. Within moments, several
people connected to the poster's computer, but then the host disconnected. A
few moments later, the server admin came in using the published password,
changed some configurations and crashed NVDA by letting clients read long
strings and making their keyboards unusable. An audio recording was
published that provides some live evidence, with people posting on social
media advising others to stop using this, labeling this as "unsecure".



In light of this incident, as a community add-ons representative, I'd like
to request that add-on users follow these guidelines:



1. Never give out NVDA remote session password publicly.

2. The Remote host must provide the password and this should be done
privately.

3. The Remote client must tell host what he or she is going to do so
the host can be aware of what's going on.

4. The host should try to inform clients that he or she is
disconnecting so clients can disconnect properly.



Also, as an add-on developer, I'd like to propose the following action plan
in the future:



1. Please examine evidence you can find before coming to the conclusion
that things are insecure.

2. Developers should provide responses as soon as possible when
evidence becomes available.



The add-on can be found in our NVDA Community Add-ons website. Although
there is some things about this add-on that have contributed to this
incident, the ultimate root cause has to do with irresponsible user actions.



Thank you.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: got locked out of my gmail account in firefox

 

There is sorto of an easier way round this.
There are 3 reasons you can't sign in to gmail.
1. you are in another country trying to access the mail with same credentials.
I have had it where I have signed in and in the same country and it notifies you.
I was trying to help my mum while away and signed into her system, this triggered the security system.
I needed to get a varification from her phone.
After that I had to change her password to one then change it again when she came back.
2. you got hacked.
Once I got someone in my account and it triggered the security system.
However the system grabbed his ip, and other info and this included his isp.
I was able to contact his isp with the information and the issue was handled.
The last time is simply bad luck.
close firefox, and then with ccleaner just clear your junk files and make sure you do your cookies to.
It should then come back.
4. you could have come in when the server was offline it doesn't happen often but it does from time to time.
The only time it was really bad was well when most services just stopped for an hour with no explanation.
It turned out from my isp that a local datacentre had lost one of their storage arrays and all drives in that and had to transfer to the us while they replaced it and then back again.

On 10/10/2016 2:47 a.m., Nevzat Adil wrote:
You'll need to reset your username or password.

On 10/9/16, Brian's Mail list account <bglists@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
I think it does this if too many wrong entries are attempted. It used to
allow you back in after a time, but they change stuff every few days over
there, so who really knows.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" <knitqueen2007@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2016 10:38 PM
Subject: [nvda] got locked out of my gmail account in firefox


Hi, everyone,


How do I find my gmail account in firefox? I got locked out. What I want
to do si practice using the online gmail site. I just listened to the
tutorial on gmail and it's great but now I'm locked out of my account.


Thanks for your help in advance.


Rosemarie









.


Could somebody confirm this issue before I put it in a ticket?

Brian's Mail list account BY <bglists@...>
 

Internet Explorer 11 latest stable version of nvda. The second checkbox about focus mode changes in the browse mode dialogue, seems to have no effect.
IE in Firefox, changing this effectively allows or stops you scrolling over the edit box but still drops into it when focussed, in IE this gets the cursor, sorry carat stuck in the edit box no matter what the setting for the option is.
I'm using windows 7.
In addition, in snapshots this is still the case, master is exactly the same, but Next generates the error sound whenever it goes into focus mode as well.
Thanks, if others can duplicate at least part of this then I'll make a ticket, if not then I might have some odd problem here.
However I've encountered it on xp clunkers but that is ie8 of course not the current one.
Brian

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Announcing Windows 10 App Essentials 16.10.1

 

Hi all,

 

I’m delighted to announce the release of Windows 10 App Essentials add-on 16.10.1. This includes minor tweaks and translation updates. The new add-on and the changelog can be found at:

https://github.com/josephsl/wintenApps/releases/tag/16.10.1

 

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: keyboard question

Kwork
 


That's good. I'm glad you found it.
Travis

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 8:08 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] keyboard question

    As soon as I wrote that email, I was able to find it.  Thanks everyone for being so patient with me.


On 10/10/2016 11:05 PM, Gene wrote:
It may not be shown in your system tray.  Your system tray may be set to not show all icons that can be shown there.  That's a Windows setting and not a screen-reader setting so you don't have to worry about not knowing about that as an NVDA function.
 
Someone may tell you how to check the system tray setting.  I'll leave that to others.  I've almost never used the setting and others will be far more familiar with it and not have to experiment as I would to figure it out.
 
But here is another way you can set the caps lock as a modifier.
 
I'll also explain that just as FS calls any key used as a modifier to work with JAWS the JAWS key, NVDA developers refer to any key that you use as an NVDA modifier as the NVDA key.  So once you set the caps lock key, it will be an NVDA key.
 
Again, someone can tell you were to find this file.  I don't know where it is in your version of Windows and I am running a portable version of NVDA so it wouldn't  be in the same place as yours anyway.
Once you find the NVDA.ini file, press enter on it.  It will open in Notepad.
There are a lot of settings but if you look far enough, you will fine keyboard settings.
Look for this line:
 useCapsLockAsNVDAModifierKey = false
Change the worde false to true and then save the file with control s.
Close notepad, then close NVDA and run it again.  If you want to reboot to cause NVDA to close and run again, you may.  or you can end the program using the task manager and run it again.
 
Now, you will be able to use the caps lock as an NVDA key.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 9:41 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] keyboard question

     I did the windows plus B, but I can't find the NVDA setting. So
very sorry for being uninformed about this screenreader.


On 10/10/2016 4:38 PM, Kwork wrote:
> Melissa, if you are not currently able to use the insert key as an NVDA
> modifier key, do the following:
>
> 1. Press windows key plus b to get to the notification area.
> 2. Arrow around till you hear the word "NVDA."
> 3. Press the space bar or the enter key to activate the NVDA menu.
> 4. Arrow down to preferences, then press the right arrow key to open the
> preferences menu.
> 5. Arrow down to Keyboard settings, and press enter to enter the dialog
> where you can tab around to explore the various options.
> 6. Tab till you hear the words "Use CapsLock as an NVDA modifier key."
> 7. Press the spacebar to check it. If it was already check, the spacebar
> will uncheck it. Press it again to make sure it's checked.
> 8. Tab to the ok button and press the spacebar to approve the changes and
> exit the keyboard settings.
> Of course there are other settings you can set while you're in there, so
> look around before exiting.
> I personally have both the insert key and the capps lock set as modifiers.
> Like you, I have heard that many newer keyboards are losing the insert key,
> so having an alternate modifier is important.
> I know that you can also set the keyboard to laptop, but don't know the
> commands there, so have no idea if that'll help you at all or not.
> Good luck,
> Travis
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Melissa Galbraith" <wvflutist@...>
> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 12:41 PM
> Subject: [nvda] keyboard question
>
>
> I'm using NVDA and am not sure of all the hotkeys.  The keyboards I am
> using don't have the insert key, and I read in an article last night
> that the insert key is being phased out.  Many of the ewer keyboarders
> don't feature it.  How in the world am I supposed to do some of the
> commands with out it.?
>
>
> Melissa
>
>
>
>
>
>
>





Re: keyboard question

Melissa G <wvflutist@...>
 

    As soon as I wrote that email, I was able to find it.  Thanks everyone for being so patient with me.


On 10/10/2016 11:05 PM, Gene wrote:
It may not be shown in your system tray.  Your system tray may be set to not show all icons that can be shown there.  That's a Windows setting and not a screen-reader setting so you don't have to worry about not knowing about that as an NVDA function.
 
Someone may tell you how to check the system tray setting.  I'll leave that to others.  I've almost never used the setting and others will be far more familiar with it and not have to experiment as I would to figure it out.
 
But here is another way you can set the caps lock as a modifier.
 
I'll also explain that just as FS calls any key used as a modifier to work with JAWS the JAWS key, NVDA developers refer to any key that you use as an NVDA modifier as the NVDA key.  So once you set the caps lock key, it will be an NVDA key.
 
Again, someone can tell you were to find this file.  I don't know where it is in your version of Windows and I am running a portable version of NVDA so it wouldn't  be in the same place as yours anyway.
Once you find the NVDA.ini file, press enter on it.  It will open in Notepad.
There are a lot of settings but if you look far enough, you will fine keyboard settings.
Look for this line:
 useCapsLockAsNVDAModifierKey = false
Change the worde false to true and then save the file with control s.
Close notepad, then close NVDA and run it again.  If you want to reboot to cause NVDA to close and run again, you may.  or you can end the program using the task manager and run it again.
 
Now, you will be able to use the caps lock as an NVDA key.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 9:41 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] keyboard question

     I did the windows plus B, but I can't find the NVDA setting. So
very sorry for being uninformed about this screenreader.


On 10/10/2016 4:38 PM, Kwork wrote:
> Melissa, if you are not currently able to use the insert key as an NVDA
> modifier key, do the following:
>
> 1. Press windows key plus b to get to the notification area.
> 2. Arrow around till you hear the word "NVDA."
> 3. Press the space bar or the enter key to activate the NVDA menu.
> 4. Arrow down to preferences, then press the right arrow key to open the
> preferences menu.
> 5. Arrow down to Keyboard settings, and press enter to enter the dialog
> where you can tab around to explore the various options.
> 6. Tab till you hear the words "Use CapsLock as an NVDA modifier key."
> 7. Press the spacebar to check it. If it was already check, the spacebar
> will uncheck it. Press it again to make sure it's checked.
> 8. Tab to the ok button and press the spacebar to approve the changes and
> exit the keyboard settings.
> Of course there are other settings you can set while you're in there, so
> look around before exiting.
> I personally have both the insert key and the capps lock set as modifiers.
> Like you, I have heard that many newer keyboards are losing the insert key,
> so having an alternate modifier is important.
> I know that you can also set the keyboard to laptop, but don't know the
> commands there, so have no idea if that'll help you at all or not.
> Good luck,
> Travis
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Melissa Galbraith" <wvflutist@...>
> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 12:41 PM
> Subject: [nvda] keyboard question
>
>
> I'm using NVDA and am not sure of all the hotkeys.  The keyboards I am
> using don't have the insert key, and I read in an article last night
> that the insert key is being phased out.  Many of the ewer keyboarders
> don't feature it.  How in the world am I supposed to do some of the
> commands with out it.?
>
>
> Melissa
>
>
>
>
>
>
>





Re: keyboard question

Gene
 

It may not be shown in your system tray.  Your system tray may be set to not show all icons that can be shown there.  That's a Windows setting and not a screen-reader setting so you don't have to worry about not knowing about that as an NVDA function.
 
Someone may tell you how to check the system tray setting.  I'll leave that to others.  I've almost never used the setting and others will be far more familiar with it and not have to experiment as I would to figure it out.
 
But here is another way you can set the caps lock as a modifier.
 
I'll also explain that just as FS calls any key used as a modifier to work with JAWS the JAWS key, NVDA developers refer to any key that you use as an NVDA modifier as the NVDA key.  So once you set the caps lock key, it will be an NVDA key.
 
Again, someone can tell you were to find this file.  I don't know where it is in your version of Windows and I am running a portable version of NVDA so it wouldn't  be in the same place as yours anyway.
Once you find the NVDA.ini file, press enter on it.  It will open in Notepad.
There are a lot of settings but if you look far enough, you will fine keyboard settings.
Look for this line:
 useCapsLockAsNVDAModifierKey = false
Change the worde false to true and then save the file with control s.
Close notepad, then close NVDA and run it again.  If you want to reboot to cause NVDA to close and run again, you may.  or you can end the program using the task manager and run it again.
 
Now, you will be able to use the caps lock as an NVDA key.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 9:41 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] keyboard question

     I did the windows plus B, but I can't find the NVDA setting. So
very sorry for being uninformed about this screenreader.


On 10/10/2016 4:38 PM, Kwork wrote:
> Melissa, if you are not currently able to use the insert key as an NVDA
> modifier key, do the following:
>
> 1. Press windows key plus b to get to the notification area.
> 2. Arrow around till you hear the word "NVDA."
> 3. Press the space bar or the enter key to activate the NVDA menu.
> 4. Arrow down to preferences, then press the right arrow key to open the
> preferences menu.
> 5. Arrow down to Keyboard settings, and press enter to enter the dialog
> where you can tab around to explore the various options.
> 6. Tab till you hear the words "Use CapsLock as an NVDA modifier key."
> 7. Press the spacebar to check it. If it was already check, the spacebar
> will uncheck it. Press it again to make sure it's checked.
> 8. Tab to the ok button and press the spacebar to approve the changes and
> exit the keyboard settings.
> Of course there are other settings you can set while you're in there, so
> look around before exiting.
> I personally have both the insert key and the capps lock set as modifiers.
> Like you, I have heard that many newer keyboards are losing the insert key,
> so having an alternate modifier is important.
> I know that you can also set the keyboard to laptop, but don't know the
> commands there, so have no idea if that'll help you at all or not.
> Good luck,
> Travis
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Melissa Galbraith" <wvflutist@...>
> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 12:41 PM
> Subject: [nvda] keyboard question
>
>
> I'm using NVDA and am not sure of all the hotkeys.  The keyboards I am
> using don't have the insert key, and I read in an article last night
> that the insert key is being phased out.  Many of the ewer keyboarders
> don't feature it.  How in the world am I supposed to do some of the
> commands with out it.?
>
>
> Melissa
>
>
>
>
>
>
>




Re: keyboard question

Aravind R
 

after pressing windows+b, press space bar then press arrow keys. you
will find nvda on overflow area. you can activate by pressing enter
and reach nvda settings.

On 10/11/16, Melissa Galbraith <wvflutist@gmail.com> wrote:
I did the windows plus B, but I can't find the NVDA setting. So
very sorry for being uninformed about this screenreader.


On 10/10/2016 4:38 PM, Kwork wrote:
Melissa, if you are not currently able to use the insert key as an NVDA
modifier key, do the following:

1. Press windows key plus b to get to the notification area.
2. Arrow around till you hear the word "NVDA."
3. Press the space bar or the enter key to activate the NVDA menu.
4. Arrow down to preferences, then press the right arrow key to open the
preferences menu.
5. Arrow down to Keyboard settings, and press enter to enter the dialog
where you can tab around to explore the various options.
6. Tab till you hear the words "Use CapsLock as an NVDA modifier key."
7. Press the spacebar to check it. If it was already check, the spacebar
will uncheck it. Press it again to make sure it's checked.
8. Tab to the ok button and press the spacebar to approve the changes and
exit the keyboard settings.
Of course there are other settings you can set while you're in there, so
look around before exiting.
I personally have both the insert key and the capps lock set as
modifiers.
Like you, I have heard that many newer keyboards are losing the insert
key,
so having an alternate modifier is important.
I know that you can also set the keyboard to laptop, but don't know the
commands there, so have no idea if that'll help you at all or not.
Good luck,
Travis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Melissa Galbraith" <wvflutist@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 12:41 PM
Subject: [nvda] keyboard question


I'm using NVDA and am not sure of all the hotkeys. The keyboards I am
using don't have the insert key, and I read in an article last night
that the insert key is being phased out. Many of the ewer keyboarders
don't feature it. How in the world am I supposed to do some of the
commands with out it.?


Melissa









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Re: keyboard question

Melissa G <wvflutist@...>
 

I did the windows plus B, but I can't find the NVDA setting. So very sorry for being uninformed about this screenreader.

On 10/10/2016 4:38 PM, Kwork wrote:
Melissa, if you are not currently able to use the insert key as an NVDA
modifier key, do the following:

1. Press windows key plus b to get to the notification area.
2. Arrow around till you hear the word "NVDA."
3. Press the space bar or the enter key to activate the NVDA menu.
4. Arrow down to preferences, then press the right arrow key to open the
preferences menu.
5. Arrow down to Keyboard settings, and press enter to enter the dialog
where you can tab around to explore the various options.
6. Tab till you hear the words "Use CapsLock as an NVDA modifier key."
7. Press the spacebar to check it. If it was already check, the spacebar
will uncheck it. Press it again to make sure it's checked.
8. Tab to the ok button and press the spacebar to approve the changes and
exit the keyboard settings.
Of course there are other settings you can set while you're in there, so
look around before exiting.
I personally have both the insert key and the capps lock set as modifiers.
Like you, I have heard that many newer keyboards are losing the insert key,
so having an alternate modifier is important.
I know that you can also set the keyboard to laptop, but don't know the
commands there, so have no idea if that'll help you at all or not.
Good luck,
Travis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Melissa Galbraith" <wvflutist@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 12:41 PM
Subject: [nvda] keyboard question


I'm using NVDA and am not sure of all the hotkeys. The keyboards I am
using don't have the insert key, and I read in an article last night
that the insert key is being phased out. Many of the ewer keyboarders
don't feature it. How in the world am I supposed to do some of the
commands with out it.?


Melissa






Re: keyboard question

Melissa G <wvflutist@...>
 

I had found some hot keys the other day but could never figure what the NVvvvva key was.  Sorry but I'm just really learning this program.


On 10/10/2016 4:52 PM, Pauline Smith wrote:
Good afternoon. I have NVVA set so that I have the option of using of either insert or caps lock key. Cap slock key was easier on my standard laptop keyboard. But since now I primarily use a USB keyboard set for desktop computer, I can usually insert the as the mentioned for keys like NVVA key plus T for title bar or NVVA S for speech. Just makes it more practical for the same reason I have NVVA set to desktop layout now. I use to have it set for laptop.

Pauline Smith sent you this voice-to-text generated email using Voice on the Go.

Click here to listen to the original message.



From: Gene
Sent: October 10, 2016 4:35 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] keyboard question

The caps lock key is on the left side of the keyboard.  While this will be convenient for some commands that use the NVDA key and another key on the right side of the keyboard, it is hardly convenient for commands such as read tible bar, NVDA t or read dialog, NVDA b or sor doing things like turning speech on and off, NVDA s.  If you want to use NVDA with the intended level of convenience, you either need to get another keyboard or use the lap top layout instead or you can get a USB numpad, which will have an insert key.  You can then continue to use your current keyboard and use the insert on the USB keyboard.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 3:07 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] keyboard question

Melissa,

Set NVDA to use the caps-lock key.  I believe this can be done on the NVDA opening menu.



Regards
Louis Maher
Phone: 713-444-7838
E-mail: ljmaher@...

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Melissa Galbraith
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 2:41 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] keyboard question

I'm using NVDA and am not sure of all the hotkeys.  The keyboards I am using don't have the insert key, and I read in an article last night that the insert key is being phased out.  Many of the ewer keyboarders don't feature it.  How in the world am I supposed to do some of the commands with out it.?


Melissa









Re: keyboard question

Melissa G <wvflutist@...>
 

Thankss to everyone for all of their help. I'm used to using jaws, and when my other computer crashed no longer have jaws as an option. Long story made short, I don't haave funds to get another version of jaws, and with moving, I don't know where my software is.

On 10/10/2016 4:38 PM, Kwork wrote:
Melissa, if you are not currently able to use the insert key as an NVDA
modifier key, do the following:

1. Press windows key plus b to get to the notification area.
2. Arrow around till you hear the word "NVDA."
3. Press the space bar or the enter key to activate the NVDA menu.
4. Arrow down to preferences, then press the right arrow key to open the
preferences menu.
5. Arrow down to Keyboard settings, and press enter to enter the dialog
where you can tab around to explore the various options.
6. Tab till you hear the words "Use CapsLock as an NVDA modifier key."
7. Press the spacebar to check it. If it was already check, the spacebar
will uncheck it. Press it again to make sure it's checked.
8. Tab to the ok button and press the spacebar to approve the changes and
exit the keyboard settings.
Of course there are other settings you can set while you're in there, so
look around before exiting.
I personally have both the insert key and the capps lock set as modifiers.
Like you, I have heard that many newer keyboards are losing the insert key,
so having an alternate modifier is important.
I know that you can also set the keyboard to laptop, but don't know the
commands there, so have no idea if that'll help you at all or not.
Good luck,
Travis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Melissa Galbraith" <wvflutist@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 12:41 PM
Subject: [nvda] keyboard question


I'm using NVDA and am not sure of all the hotkeys. The keyboards I am
using don't have the insert key, and I read in an article last night
that the insert key is being phased out. Many of the ewer keyboarders
don't feature it. How in the world am I supposed to do some of the
commands with out it.?


Melissa






Re: Disturbing NVDA Remote Rumor: any ruth or verification?

Lino Morales
 

Yes you are correct. Christopher Tauth was the other DEV.

On 10/10/2016 3:40 PM, Jeremy wrote:
I don't really have any opinions on weather or not Tyler S had malicious intent in the development of the remote AddOn, but I do think it'd be just a little weird for him to do such a thing, most especially for the rest of his contributions he's made towards other accessible projects.

I'd also point out that Tyler S wasn't the only one who assisted in the development of the Addon, something I didn't see mentioned in the fb post. As I recall, the development was carried out by two people, so if it does turn out that something weird is going on, I'd be looking at everyone, not just one dude who's done a hell of a lot for the accessible community.

Buddy Brannan wrote:
On a shared copy of the post, he posted a comment to the effect that the exploit was with NVDA itself, by sending a large amount of text through it all at once. I don't even know if he's on this list and can elaborate himself.

--
Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
Phone: 814-860-3194
Mobile: 814-431-0962
Email: buddy@brannan.name




On Oct 10, 2016, at 1:27 PM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,
Okay... I'd like to know where Tyler L is getting this information. Based on
that post, it appears someone may have told him what's up. I'm keeping an
eye on Twitter to find out what's up as well.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Buddy
Brannan
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 10:10 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Disturbing NVDA Remote Rumor: any ruth or verification?

This should work:
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10210482594480519&id=1214464156&
refid=17&ref=m_notif&notif_t=feed_comment_reply&_ft_=top_level_post_id.10210
482594480519%3Atl_objid.10210482594480519%3Athid.1214464156%3A30606112949941
4%3A2%3A0%3A1477983599%3A-8014300897192678334&__tn__=%2As


--
Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
Phone: 814-860-3194
Mobile: 814-431-0962
Email: buddy@brannan.name




On Oct 10, 2016, at 1:02 PM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi everyone,
I was alerted to this by Derek Riemer, and am keeping an eye on this
development. According to what I'm seeing, this is quite disturbing if the
claims are to be believed. What we need at this point is evidence that
proves what the below Facebook message says (one of the evidence needed is
the URL to that post).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Buddy
Brannan
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 7:43 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Disturbing NVDA Remote Rumor: any ruth or verification?

Just saw this on Facebook:

All of my blind NVDA friends: If you have used, currently use or plan on
using NVDA remote, I recommend you stop now and remove it. There is at
least
one exploit where someone can crash a system, whether or not it is enabled
to be controlled. This exploit is being used by Tyler Spivy, one of the
authors of the project. Many more may exist and through an inspection of
the
code probably do. Please circulate this to as many people as possible.
Thanks.


Disturbing if true. Given some of Tyler's past exploits, well, one would
hope he'd grown up since those. If true, this certainly won't help open
source in general, NVDA in particular, or future crowdfunding for AT.

--
Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
Phone: 814-860-3194
Mobile: 814-431-0962
Email: buddy@brannan.name
















Re: Disturbing NVDA Remote Rumor: any ruth or verification?

Lino Morales
 

Well this sucks loads if this is true, but Tyler is on this list I think he should come come clean and answer for himself before we all jump to conclusions.

On 10/10/2016 10:43 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote:
Just saw this on Facebook:

All of my blind NVDA friends: If you have used, currently use or plan on using NVDA remote, I recommend you stop now and remove it. There is at least one exploit where someone can crash a system, whether or not it is enabled to be controlled. This exploit is being used by Tyler Spivy, one of the authors of the project. Many more may exist and through an inspection of the code probably do. Please circulate this to as many people as possible. Thanks.


Disturbing if true. Given some of Tyler's past exploits, well, one would hope he'd grown up since those. If true, this certainly won't help open source in general, NVDA in particular, or future crowdfunding for AT.

--
Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
Phone: 814-860-3194
Mobile: 814-431-0962
Email: buddy@brannan.name






Re: official address for subscribing to the thunderbird email list

Lino Morales
 

The official Thunderbird list address to sub is on the Tbird page. Do a search for it on at:

www.mozilla.org/

Good luck.

On 10/10/2016 1:37 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, everyone,


What's the email address to subscribe to the official thunderbird list? I tried


thunderbird@yahoogroups.com


and typed "subscribe" in the subject line but that didn't work.


Thanks for your help in advance.


Rosemarie





Re: Opening attached files in Firefox

 

Cearbhall,

            You're quite welcome.

            I can tell that sometimes people believe I'm trying to be either difficult, pedantic, or both, but I'm not.  The interplay between settings within programs or between them can also interplay with specific operating system settings and give you very different results.  Without knowing how each set of settings is configured it's often impossible to venture a reasonable guess as to final behavior.  I've tweaked some of these things so many times it's almost like breathing, but I remember all to well when it absolutely was not "that simple" for me.

            I'm really glad that you now have the behavior you were seeking and know how to adjust it should the need arise later.
--
Brian

Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If you’re alive, it isn’t.

    ~ Lauren Bacall

    



Re: browse mode, Re: [nvda] creating a profile

Quentin Christensen
 

You're welcome Gary!

There is more in the Microsoft Word with NVDA module available from NV Access: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/ if you are interested (no pressure, just spruiking it *grin*)

Regards

Quentin.


On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 9:46 AM, Gary Metzler <gmtravel@...> wrote:
Hi quentin,
 
Thank you for the step by step instructions.  This is most helpful.  Thanks again for all your help.
 
From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 6:17 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: browse mode, Re: [nvda] creating a profile
 
Ok, you can do that.  There are two ways, probably depending on how you want NVDA to behave in programs other than WLM or IE.
 
If you want the default behaviour to be that say all automatically reads on page load everywhere EXCEPT IE, then:
 
1. Ensure "Automatic say all on page load" is checked in NVDA's Browse mode settings (NVDA+CONTROL+B)
2. Open IE - any page.
3. Open NVDA's Configuration profiles page (NVDA+CONTROL+P)
4. Create a new profile, call it say, IE.
5. Set the new profile to activate in the current application.
6. Open Browse mode settings and uncheck automatic say all on page load.
 
Now NVDA should automatically say all on page load in Browse mode in WLM, and other applications (including other web browsers), but NOT Internet Explorer.
 
If you want the default behaviour to be that say all doesn't read automatically, then follow the same procedure but set browse mode to not say say, open WLM, create the new profile, set browse mode say all.
 
Note that while that profile is active, any changes you make to the voice - eg changing the speech rate, changing the synthesizer etc, will be kept every time you go into that application.
 
Regards
 
Quentin.
 
On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 12:44 AM, Gary Metzler <gmtravel@...> wrote:
Yes, that is what I want to do.  I want the say all to read the entire message in wlm but, I don’t want it to read the entire page in ie.  Thanks,
 
From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 5:56 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: browse mode, Re: [nvda] creating a profile
 
Marisane - it might be worth posting your question as a new topic, as people may not see it in here.
 
Gary, you can certainly set up as many profiles as you like, use one across several programs etc.  I'm not quite sure I understand what you mean about say all - do you mean you don't want Internet Explorer to automatically read pages when they load?  You can set that up although that's in Browse mode settings - NVDA+control+b - "Automatic say all on page load".
 
Regards
 
Quentin.
 
On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 7:03 PM, Gary Metzler <gmtravel@...> wrote:
Hi quentin,
 
I have a question can I set up a profile to work in internet explorer to not use the say all command but, still use it in wlm?  Thanks for any help.
 
From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2016 10:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: browse mode, Re: [nvda] creating a profile
 
Look's like Gary found what he needed, but further to your keys there John (and what you've written will work perfectly), you can also press:
 
NVDA+control+b to jump directly to the dialog.  That works for a number of other NVDA dialogs (not all, but a few), eg NVDA+control+v for voice settings, NVDA+control+k for keyboard settings, NVDA+control+d for document formatting settings etc.
 
Kind regards
 
Quentin.
 
On Sun, Oct 9, 2016 at 4:28 AM, John Sanfilippo <johnsanfilippo@...> wrote:
NVDA n, p, b, should do it.

JS



On 10/8/16 13:21, Gary Metzler  wrote:
> Hi Gene,
>
> I found the browse settings and the check box wasn’t checked.  I checked
> it and now the messages are read to the end.  Thanks again.
>
> *From:* Gene
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 8, 2016 12:55 PM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] creating a profile
>
> I doubt this will help but In browse mode settings in NVDA, see if the
> setting that tells NVDA to read page automatically when page loads is
> checked.  It is by default but if it isn't checked, checking it may
> solve the problem.
>
> Gene
>
> *From:* Gary Metzler
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 08, 2016 11:46 AM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] creating a profile
>
> I am reading in html.
>
> *From:* Gene
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 8, 2016 12:15 PM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] creating a profile
>
> I'm not sure.  I don't think you specified what e-mail program you are
> using.  Also, are you reading mail as plain text or as HTML.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Gary Metzler
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 08, 2016 11:10 AM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] creating a profile
>
> HI Gene,
>
> When I opened this message it only read the first sentence.  Can this be
> changed?  Thanks,
>
> *From:* Gene
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 8, 2016 8:14 AM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] creating a profile
>
> When I open an e-mail message, even though my messages are read
> automatically, I manually issue the read to end command before or at the
> moment reading starts.  I find this more efficient in starting reading
> faster and avoiding material I don't want read.  I have already heard
> the subject line.  If I tell the message to be read manually, this
> material is not spoken again and the message body starts to be read.
> You may have to experiment to see how long to wait before issuing the
> command after opening a message.
>
> There are times when getting in the habit of manually issuing a command
> is superior to having something done automatically unless you know how
> to script a screen-reader to do exactly what you want it to do.  Issuing
> such a command will become automatic over time.
>
> Gene
>
> *From:* Rui Fontes
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 08, 2016 6:53 AM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] creating a profile
>
> Sorry, but Windows Live Mail already does that...
> And, a profil is only to set different configurations to an app or action...
>
> What you want to achieve, if it is not already done, will need an
> appmodule...
>
> Rui
>
>
> -----Mensagem Original-----
> De: Gary Metzler
> Data: 8 de outubro de 2016 11:10
> Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Assunto: [nvda] creating a profile
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> Since I am new to nvda I would like to know if it is possible to create a
> profile for windows live mail to read the entire message upon opening it?
> If so, how is this done?  Thanks for any help.Regards, Gary kn4ox
>
>
>
>
>
>





 
--
Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/



 
--
Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/



 
--
Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/




--
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Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Direct: +61 413 904 383
www.nvaccess.org 
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Re: browse mode, Re: [nvda] creating a profile

Gary Metzler <gmtravel@...>
 

Hi quentin,
 
Thank you for the step by step instructions.  This is most helpful.  Thanks again for all your help.
 

From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 6:17 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: browse mode, Re: [nvda] creating a profile
 
Ok, you can do that.  There are two ways, probably depending on how you want NVDA to behave in programs other than WLM or IE.
 
If you want the default behaviour to be that say all automatically reads on page load everywhere EXCEPT IE, then:
 
1. Ensure "Automatic say all on page load" is checked in NVDA's Browse mode settings (NVDA+CONTROL+B)
2. Open IE - any page.
3. Open NVDA's Configuration profiles page (NVDA+CONTROL+P)
4. Create a new profile, call it say, IE.
5. Set the new profile to activate in the current application.
6. Open Browse mode settings and uncheck automatic say all on page load.
 
Now NVDA should automatically say all on page load in Browse mode in WLM, and other applications (including other web browsers), but NOT Internet Explorer.
 
If you want the default behaviour to be that say all doesn't read automatically, then follow the same procedure but set browse mode to not say say, open WLM, create the new profile, set browse mode say all.
 
Note that while that profile is active, any changes you make to the voice - eg changing the speech rate, changing the synthesizer etc, will be kept every time you go into that application.
 
Regards
 
Quentin.
 
On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 12:44 AM, Gary Metzler <gmtravel@...> wrote:
Yes, that is what I want to do.  I want the say all to read the entire message in wlm but, I don’t want it to read the entire page in ie.  Thanks,
 
From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 5:56 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: browse mode, Re: [nvda] creating a profile
 
Marisane - it might be worth posting your question as a new topic, as people may not see it in here.
 
Gary, you can certainly set up as many profiles as you like, use one across several programs etc.  I'm not quite sure I understand what you mean about say all - do you mean you don't want Internet Explorer to automatically read pages when they load?  You can set that up although that's in Browse mode settings - NVDA+control+b - "Automatic say all on page load".
 
Regards
 
Quentin.
 
On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 7:03 PM, Gary Metzler <gmtravel@...> wrote:
Hi quentin,
 
I have a question can I set up a profile to work in internet explorer to not use the say all command but, still use it in wlm?  Thanks for any help.
 
From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2016 10:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: browse mode, Re: [nvda] creating a profile
 
Look's like Gary found what he needed, but further to your keys there John (and what you've written will work perfectly), you can also press:
 
NVDA+control+b to jump directly to the dialog.  That works for a number of other NVDA dialogs (not all, but a few), eg NVDA+control+v for voice settings, NVDA+control+k for keyboard settings, NVDA+control+d for document formatting settings etc.
 
Kind regards
 
Quentin.
 
On Sun, Oct 9, 2016 at 4:28 AM, John Sanfilippo <johnsanfilippo@...> wrote:
NVDA n, p, b, should do it.

JS



On 10/8/16 13:21, Gary Metzler  wrote:
> Hi Gene,
>
> I found the browse settings and the check box wasn’t checked.  I checked
> it and now the messages are read to the end.  Thanks again.
>
> *From:* Gene
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 8, 2016 12:55 PM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] creating a profile
>
> I doubt this will help but In browse mode settings in NVDA, see if the
> setting that tells NVDA to read page automatically when page loads is
> checked.  It is by default but if it isn't checked, checking it may
> solve the problem.
>
> Gene
>
> *From:* Gary Metzler
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 08, 2016 11:46 AM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] creating a profile
>
> I am reading in html.
>
> *From:* Gene
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 8, 2016 12:15 PM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] creating a profile
>
> I'm not sure.  I don't think you specified what e-mail program you are
> using.  Also, are you reading mail as plain text or as HTML.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Gary Metzler
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 08, 2016 11:10 AM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] creating a profile
>
> HI Gene,
>
> When I opened this message it only read the first sentence.  Can this be
> changed?  Thanks,
>
> *From:* Gene
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 8, 2016 8:14 AM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] creating a profile
>
> When I open an e-mail message, even though my messages are read
> automatically, I manually issue the read to end command before or at the
> moment reading starts.  I find this more efficient in starting reading
> faster and avoiding material I don't want read.  I have already heard
> the subject line.  If I tell the message to be read manually, this
> material is not spoken again and the message body starts to be read.
> You may have to experiment to see how long to wait before issuing the
> command after opening a message.
>
> There are times when getting in the habit of manually issuing a command
> is superior to having something done automatically unless you know how
> to script a screen-reader to do exactly what you want it to do.  Issuing
> such a command will become automatic over time.
>
> Gene
>
> *From:* Rui Fontes
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 08, 2016 6:53 AM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] creating a profile
>
> Sorry, but Windows Live Mail already does that...
> And, a profil is only to set different configurations to an app or action...
>
> What you want to achieve, if it is not already done, will need an
> appmodule...
>
> Rui
>
>
> -----Mensagem Original-----
> De: Gary Metzler
> Data: 8 de outubro de 2016 11:10
> Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Assunto: [nvda] creating a profile
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> Since I am new to nvda I would like to know if it is possible to create a
> profile for windows live mail to read the entire message upon opening it?
> If so, how is this done?  Thanks for any help.Regards, Gary kn4ox
>
>
>
>
>
>





 
--
Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/



 
--
Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/



 
--
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Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Direct: +61 413 904 383
www.nvaccess.org 
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Twitter: @NVAccess


Re: Opening attached files in Firefox

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Thanks, Brian,

 

All solved now! I had to change a few settings to call on Adobe for pdf files so all is well now. I did not know how important the options settings were but now I do! Thanks.

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2016 11:33 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Opening attached files in Firefox

 

Cearbhall,

            What you've got going on right now is that Firefox is downloading the file, to the Downloads folder, which is the default for Firefox (and most other web browsers, too, unless you tweak settings) and it's not telling you what it's doing since you are using the default behavior.  If you go to the Tools menu, Options item, General pane, under Downloads there are two radio buttons:  Save files to - with a dropdown set to Downloads by default plus a browse button, and Always ask me where to save files.  If the latter is chosen every time you try to download a file you will get a dialog box pop up asking whether you want to open the file with whatever program you have set as the default for the file type (radio button chosen by default), Save file to (secondary radio button that you choose if you want to save the file somewhere), and a checkbox for "Do this automatically for files like this from now on."

              If you actually want the PDF to open within the browser for viewing you configure that in the way noted at this webpage:   https://helpx.adobe.com/acrobat/using/display-pdf-in-browser.html
--
Brian

Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If you’re alive, it isn’t.

    ~ Lauren Bacall

    

 


Re: browse mode, Re: [nvda] creating a profile

Quentin Christensen
 

Ok, you can do that.  There are two ways, probably depending on how you want NVDA to behave in programs other than WLM or IE.

If you want the default behaviour to be that say all automatically reads on page load everywhere EXCEPT IE, then:

1. Ensure "Automatic say all on page load" is checked in NVDA's Browse mode settings (NVDA+CONTROL+B)
2. Open IE - any page.
3. Open NVDA's Configuration profiles page (NVDA+CONTROL+P)
4. Create a new profile, call it say, IE.
5. Set the new profile to activate in the current application.
6. Open Browse mode settings and uncheck automatic say all on page load.

Now NVDA should automatically say all on page load in Browse mode in WLM, and other applications (including other web browsers), but NOT Internet Explorer.

If you want the default behaviour to be that say all doesn't read automatically, then follow the same procedure but set browse mode to not say say, open WLM, create the new profile, set browse mode say all.

Note that while that profile is active, any changes you make to the voice - eg changing the speech rate, changing the synthesizer etc, will be kept every time you go into that application.

Regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 12:44 AM, Gary Metzler <gmtravel@...> wrote:
Yes, that is what I want to do.  I want the say all to read the entire message in wlm but, I don’t want it to read the entire page in ie.  Thanks,
 
From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 5:56 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: browse mode, Re: [nvda] creating a profile
 
Marisane - it might be worth posting your question as a new topic, as people may not see it in here.
 
Gary, you can certainly set up as many profiles as you like, use one across several programs etc.  I'm not quite sure I understand what you mean about say all - do you mean you don't want Internet Explorer to automatically read pages when they load?  You can set that up although that's in Browse mode settings - NVDA+control+b - "Automatic say all on page load".
 
Regards
 
Quentin.
 
On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 7:03 PM, Gary Metzler <gmtravel@...> wrote:
Hi quentin,
 
I have a question can I set up a profile to work in internet explorer to not use the say all command but, still use it in wlm?  Thanks for any help.
 
From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2016 10:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: browse mode, Re: [nvda] creating a profile
 
Look's like Gary found what he needed, but further to your keys there John (and what you've written will work perfectly), you can also press:
 
NVDA+control+b to jump directly to the dialog.  That works for a number of other NVDA dialogs (not all, but a few), eg NVDA+control+v for voice settings, NVDA+control+k for keyboard settings, NVDA+control+d for document formatting settings etc.
 
Kind regards
 
Quentin.
 
On Sun, Oct 9, 2016 at 4:28 AM, John Sanfilippo <johnsanfilippo@...> wrote:
NVDA n, p, b, should do it.

JS



On 10/8/16 13:21, Gary Metzler  wrote:
> Hi Gene,
>
> I found the browse settings and the check box wasn’t checked.  I checked
> it and now the messages are read to the end.  Thanks again.
>
> *From:* Gene
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 8, 2016 12:55 PM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] creating a profile
>
> I doubt this will help but In browse mode settings in NVDA, see if the
> setting that tells NVDA to read page automatically when page loads is
> checked.  It is by default but if it isn't checked, checking it may
> solve the problem.
>
> Gene
>
> *From:* Gary Metzler
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 08, 2016 11:46 AM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] creating a profile
>
> I am reading in html.
>
> *From:* Gene
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 8, 2016 12:15 PM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] creating a profile
>
> I'm not sure.  I don't think you specified what e-mail program you are
> using.  Also, are you reading mail as plain text or as HTML.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Gary Metzler
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 08, 2016 11:10 AM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] creating a profile
>
> HI Gene,
>
> When I opened this message it only read the first sentence.  Can this be
> changed?  Thanks,
>
> *From:* Gene
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 8, 2016 8:14 AM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] creating a profile
>
> When I open an e-mail message, even though my messages are read
> automatically, I manually issue the read to end command before or at the
> moment reading starts.  I find this more efficient in starting reading
> faster and avoiding material I don't want read.  I have already heard
> the subject line.  If I tell the message to be read manually, this
> material is not spoken again and the message body starts to be read.
> You may have to experiment to see how long to wait before issuing the
> command after opening a message.
>
> There are times when getting in the habit of manually issuing a command
> is superior to having something done automatically unless you know how
> to script a screen-reader to do exactly what you want it to do.  Issuing
> such a command will become automatic over time.
>
> Gene
>
> *From:* Rui Fontes
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 08, 2016 6:53 AM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] creating a profile
>
> Sorry, but Windows Live Mail already does that...
> And, a profil is only to set different configurations to an app or action...
>
> What you want to achieve, if it is not already done, will need an
> appmodule...
>
> Rui
>
>
> -----Mensagem Original-----
> De: Gary Metzler
> Data: 8 de outubro de 2016 11:10
> Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Assunto: [nvda] creating a profile
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> Since I am new to nvda I would like to know if it is possible to create a
> profile for windows live mail to read the entire message upon opening it?
> If so, how is this done?  Thanks for any help.Regards, Gary kn4ox
>
>
>
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