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Re: NVDA sometimes loses control and needs to be restarted

 

NVDA losing focus has been happening to me, too, and I use Windows 10
with Firefox for browser.
It's not a big deal and regain focus by alt+tab.
But it's a nusence.
Hopefully it will be fixed.

On 12/10/19, Lisa P Geibel <lisapgeibel429@...> wrote:
Hello,

I'm sorry, I forgot to mention that when it happens to me I'm either
using Thunderbird, Seamonkey or Firefox. It happens more with Seamonkey
than others though and there are no add ons running or installed on this
computer, which is a Lenovo.

Lisa P. Geibel
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On 12/10/2019 7:06 AM, Sylvie Duchateau wrote:

Hello,

I encounter this problem using Word, the slack application and
sometimes thunderbird.

I am testing the NVDA 2019.1 beta 1 version and could not encounter
this problme so often for now.

But I need to test a bit longer in order to find out if it occurs.

Other thing: in the NVDA beta I have no add-on enabled.

I am also using Windows 10.

Best

Sylvie

Le 10/12/2019 à 12:38, Gene a écrit :

Are those having the problem using Windows 10?  I've never had it
happen in Windows 7 or XP.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Lisa P Geibel <mailto:lisapgeibel429@...>
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 10, 2019 5:11 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] NVDA sometimes loses control and needs to be
restarted

Hi Vincent and others,

SMILE I hate to break your heart, but you're not the only person this
happens to. I was very glad to see your message and know that I'm not
the only one it happens to. It is a fairly easy fix as you said, but can
get to be a bother and you're right, it does seem to happen when I'm
trying to do multiple things, but it can also happen when I'm just in
the middle of an email. My husband thought it could be TWBlue instead of
NVDA as that program does take a lot of resources, but I unloaded TWBlue
and was still having problems, so I'm thinking as I first thought that
it's something with NVDA and hopefully it will get fixed in the next
update.

Lisa P. Geibel
For Mine and Marcus's Christian and Messianic audio show, call
631-403-1002 and press 9997 for that show.
For Marcus's Big Brother breaking news and shows, call the same
number above, but press 9998 for that show.
For either show, once you're in, press 1, then 0
If you want to hear previous shows, after dialing the above phone
number and choosing which show you want, press 2.
We'd love to hear from anyone about these shows and thank you for
listening.
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May YHWH bless you all

On 12/10/2019 5:55 AM, Vincent Le Goff wrote:
Hi everyone,


This has been happening for some time, on so many computers and with
so many different NVDA versions I can't believe I would be the only
one to see this, and it's not a huge inconvenience, but it's strange
and might be worth looking into.  Regardless of the activity sometimes
NVDA "loses control".  The key hooks (the NVDA key and all the
shortcuts associated with it) stop working.  Using the numeric keypad
works as would without NVDA.  Pressing Caplocks, which is a NVDA key
for me, triggers the CapLock function.  NVDA still works somewhat and
tries to report information, but one can't open the NVDA menu, read
the time, look at the window title or indeed do lots of things
controlled directly by NVDA.


When does it happen?  I've tried to reproduce the issue and it's
tricky.  It never seems to happen at a given time or in any given
application.  All I know is that it seems to "lose control" when a lot
of memory is required by other applications, which creates some kind
of lag.  So this happens in a browser when the site has a lot of
scripts for instance.  This can happen in Word if the document is
long.  This can happen while the Windows CLI is opened and a
"demanding" task is running.  This can happen when lots of update
information is sent to NVDA (the message queue gets long). It happens
more frequently if the machine on which NVDA runs doesn't have a lot
of memory.  It sounds like a Windows lock, not NVDA's fault, but is
there a workaround?  Restarting NVDA and the delay it causes isn't
really annoying, but it's definitely strange.


Most important question though: has anyone noticed this problem? Or am
I the only lucky one?  Does happen!


Thanks,


Vincent





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Re: NVDA sometimes loses control and needs to be restarted

Lisa P Geibel
 

Hello,

I'm sorry, I forgot to mention that when it happens to me I'm either using Thunderbird, Seamonkey or Firefox. It happens more with Seamonkey than others though and there are no add ons running or installed on this computer, which is a Lenovo.

Lisa P. Geibel
For Mine and Marcus's Christian and Messianic audio show, call 631-403-1002 and press 9997 for that show.
For Marcus's Big Brother breaking news and shows, call the same number above, but press 9998 for that show.
For either show, once you're in, press 1, then 0
If you want to hear previous shows, after dialing the above phone number and choosing which show you want, press 2.
We'd love to hear from anyone about these shows and thank you for listening.
email:
lisapgeibel429@...
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LisaLisa429
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May YHWH bless you all

On 12/10/2019 7:06 AM, Sylvie Duchateau wrote:

Hello,

I encounter this problem using Word, the slack application and sometimes thunderbird.

I am testing the NVDA 2019.1 beta 1 version and could not encounter this problme so often for now.

But I need to test a bit longer in order to find out if it occurs.

Other thing: in the NVDA beta I have no add-on enabled.

I am also using Windows 10.

Best

Sylvie

Le 10/12/2019 à 12:38, Gene a écrit :

Are those having the problem using Windows 10?  I've never had it happen in Windows 7 or XP.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Lisa P Geibel <mailto:lisapgeibel429@...>
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 10, 2019 5:11 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] NVDA sometimes loses control and needs to be restarted

Hi Vincent and others,

SMILE I hate to break your heart, but you're not the only person this
happens to. I was very glad to see your message and know that I'm not
the only one it happens to. It is a fairly easy fix as you said, but can
get to be a bother and you're right, it does seem to happen when I'm
trying to do multiple things, but it can also happen when I'm just in
the middle of an email. My husband thought it could be TWBlue instead of
NVDA as that program does take a lot of resources, but I unloaded TWBlue
and was still having problems, so I'm thinking as I first thought that
it's something with NVDA and hopefully it will get fixed in the next
update.

Lisa P. Geibel
For Mine and Marcus's Christian and Messianic audio show, call 631-403-1002 and press 9997 for that show.
For Marcus's Big Brother breaking news and shows, call the same number above, but press 9998 for that show.
For either show, once you're in, press 1, then 0
If you want to hear previous shows, after dialing the above phone number and choosing which show you want, press 2.
We'd love to hear from anyone about these shows and thank you for listening.
email:
lisapgeibel429@... <mailto:lisapgeibel429@...>
Twitter:
LisaLisa429
Facebook:
m.facebook.com/ldporter1
May YHWH bless you all

On 12/10/2019 5:55 AM, Vincent Le Goff wrote:
Hi everyone,


This has been happening for some time, on so many computers and with
so many different NVDA versions I can't believe I would be the only
one to see this, and it's not a huge inconvenience, but it's strange
and might be worth looking into.  Regardless of the activity sometimes
NVDA "loses control".  The key hooks (the NVDA key and all the
shortcuts associated with it) stop working.  Using the numeric keypad
works as would without NVDA.  Pressing Caplocks, which is a NVDA key
for me, triggers the CapLock function.  NVDA still works somewhat and
tries to report information, but one can't open the NVDA menu, read
the time, look at the window title or indeed do lots of things
controlled directly by NVDA.


When does it happen?  I've tried to reproduce the issue and it's
tricky.  It never seems to happen at a given time or in any given
application.  All I know is that it seems to "lose control" when a lot
of memory is required by other applications, which creates some kind
of lag.  So this happens in a browser when the site has a lot of
scripts for instance.  This can happen in Word if the document is
long.  This can happen while the Windows CLI is opened and a
"demanding" task is running.  This can happen when lots of update
information is sent to NVDA (the message queue gets long). It happens
more frequently if the machine on which NVDA runs doesn't have a lot
of memory.  It sounds like a Windows lock, not NVDA's fault, but is
there a workaround?  Restarting NVDA and the delay it causes isn't
really annoying, but it's definitely strange.


Most important question though: has anyone noticed this problem? Or am
I the only lucky one?  Does happen!


Thanks,


Vincent



Re: NVDA sometimes loses control and needs to be restarted

Nicolai Svendsen
 

Hi,

It's pretty rare in my case. Next time it happens to me, I'll grab the old NVDA log after it restarts and possibly attach it to the issue tracker.

Nicolai

Den tir. 10. dec. 2019 kl. 13.02 skrev Lisa P Geibel <lisapgeibel429@...>:

Hi Gene,

As for me, yes, I'm using Windows 10 build 1909 and the latest stable
release of NVDA.

Lisa P. Geibel
For Mine and Marcus's Christian and Messianic audio show, call 631-403-1002 and press 9997 for that show.
For Marcus's Big Brother breaking news and shows, call the same number above, but press 9998 for that show.
For either show, once you're in, press 1, then 0
If you want to hear previous shows, after dialing the above phone number and choosing which show you want, press 2.
We'd love to hear from anyone about these shows and thank you for listening.
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  lisapgeibel429@...
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On 12/10/2019 6:38 AM, Gene wrote:
> Are those having the problem using Windows 10?  I've never had it
> happen in Windows 7 or XP.
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Lisa P Geibel <mailto:lisapgeibel429@...>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 10, 2019 5:11 AM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] NVDA sometimes loses control and needs to be
> restarted
>
> Hi Vincent and others,
>
> SMILE I hate to break your heart, but you're not the only person this
> happens to. I was very glad to see your message and know that I'm not
> the only one it happens to. It is a fairly easy fix as you said, but can
> get to be a bother and you're right, it does seem to happen when I'm
> trying to do multiple things, but it can also happen when I'm just in
> the middle of an email. My husband thought it could be TWBlue instead of
> NVDA as that program does take a lot of resources, but I unloaded TWBlue
> and was still having problems, so I'm thinking as I first thought that
> it's something with NVDA and hopefully it will get fixed in the next
> update.
>
> Lisa P. Geibel
> For Mine and Marcus's Christian and Messianic audio show, call
> 631-403-1002 and press 9997 for that show.
> For Marcus's Big Brother breaking news and shows, call the same number
> above, but press 9998 for that show.
> For either show, once you're in, press 1, then 0
> If you want to hear previous shows, after dialing the above phone
> number and choosing which show you want, press 2.
> We'd love to hear from anyone about these shows and thank you for
> listening.
> email:
> lisapgeibel429@... <mailto:lisapgeibel429@...>
> Twitter:
> LisaLisa429
> Facebook:
> m.facebook.com/ldporter1
> May YHWH bless you all
>
> On 12/10/2019 5:55 AM, Vincent Le Goff wrote:
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> >
> > This has been happening for some time, on so many computers and with
> > so many different NVDA versions I can't believe I would be the only
> > one to see this, and it's not a huge inconvenience, but it's strange
> > and might be worth looking into.  Regardless of the activity sometimes
> > NVDA "loses control".  The key hooks (the NVDA key and all the
> > shortcuts associated with it) stop working.  Using the numeric keypad
> > works as would without NVDA.  Pressing Caplocks, which is a NVDA key
> > for me, triggers the CapLock function.  NVDA still works somewhat and
> > tries to report information, but one can't open the NVDA menu, read
> > the time, look at the window title or indeed do lots of things
> > controlled directly by NVDA.
> >
> >
> > When does it happen?  I've tried to reproduce the issue and it's
> > tricky.  It never seems to happen at a given time or in any given
> > application.  All I know is that it seems to "lose control" when a lot
> > of memory is required by other applications, which creates some kind
> > of lag.  So this happens in a browser when the site has a lot of
> > scripts for instance.  This can happen in Word if the document is
> > long.  This can happen while the Windows CLI is opened and a
> > "demanding" task is running.  This can happen when lots of update
> > information is sent to NVDA (the message queue gets long). It happens
> > more frequently if the machine on which NVDA runs doesn't have a lot
> > of memory.  It sounds like a Windows lock, not NVDA's fault, but is
> > there a workaround?  Restarting NVDA and the delay it causes isn't
> > really annoying, but it's definitely strange.
> >
> >
> > Most important question though: has anyone noticed this problem? Or am
> > I the only lucky one?  Does happen!
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
> > Vincent
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>



Re: NVDA sometimes loses control and needs to be restarted

Sylvie Duchateau
 

Hello,

I encounter this problem using Word, the slack application and sometimes thunderbird.

I am testing the NVDA 2019.1 beta 1 version and could not encounter this problme so often for now.

But I need to test a bit longer in order to find out if it occurs.

Other thing: in the NVDA beta I have no add-on enabled.

I am also using Windows 10.

Best

Sylvie

Le 10/12/2019 à 12:38, Gene a écrit :

Are those having the problem using Windows 10?  I've never had it happen in Windows 7 or XP.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2019 5:11 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA sometimes loses control and needs to be restarted

Hi Vincent and others,

SMILE I hate to break your heart, but you're not the only person this
happens to. I was very glad to see your message and know that I'm not
the only one it happens to. It is a fairly easy fix as you said, but can
get to be a bother and you're right, it does seem to happen when I'm
trying to do multiple things, but it can also happen when I'm just in
the middle of an email. My husband thought it could be TWBlue instead of
NVDA as that program does take a lot of resources, but I unloaded TWBlue
and was still having problems, so I'm thinking as I first thought that
it's something with NVDA and hopefully it will get fixed in the next
update.

Lisa P. Geibel
For Mine and Marcus's Christian and Messianic audio show, call 631-403-1002 and press 9997 for that show.
For Marcus's Big Brother breaking news and shows, call the same number above, but press 9998 for that show.
For either show, once you're in, press 1, then 0
If you want to hear previous shows, after dialing the above phone number and choosing which show you want, press 2.
We'd love to hear from anyone about these shows and thank you for listening.
email:
  lisapgeibel429@...
Twitter:
LisaLisa429
Facebook:
m.facebook.com/ldporter1
May YHWH bless you all

On 12/10/2019 5:55 AM, Vincent Le Goff wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
>
> This has been happening for some time, on so many computers and with
> so many different NVDA versions I can't believe I would be the only
> one to see this, and it's not a huge inconvenience, but it's strange
> and might be worth looking into.  Regardless of the activity sometimes
> NVDA "loses control".  The key hooks (the NVDA key and all the
> shortcuts associated with it) stop working.  Using the numeric keypad
> works as would without NVDA.  Pressing Caplocks, which is a NVDA key
> for me, triggers the CapLock function.  NVDA still works somewhat and
> tries to report information, but one can't open the NVDA menu, read
> the time, look at the window title or indeed do lots of things
> controlled directly by NVDA.
>
>
> When does it happen?  I've tried to reproduce the issue and it's
> tricky.  It never seems to happen at a given time or in any given
> application.  All I know is that it seems to "lose control" when a lot
> of memory is required by other applications, which creates some kind
> of lag.  So this happens in a browser when the site has a lot of
> scripts for instance.  This can happen in Word if the document is
> long.  This can happen while the Windows CLI is opened and a
> "demanding" task is running.  This can happen when lots of update
> information is sent to NVDA (the message queue gets long). It happens
> more frequently if the machine on which NVDA runs doesn't have a lot
> of memory.  It sounds like a Windows lock, not NVDA's fault, but is
> there a workaround?  Restarting NVDA and the delay it causes isn't
> really annoying, but it's definitely strange.
>
>
> Most important question though: has anyone noticed this problem? Or am
> I the only lucky one?  Does happen!
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Vincent
>
>
>
>


Re: NVDA sometimes loses control and needs to be restarted

Lisa P Geibel
 

Hi Gene,

As for me, yes, I'm using Windows 10 build 1909 and the latest stable release of NVDA.

Lisa P. Geibel
For Mine and Marcus's Christian and Messianic audio show, call 631-403-1002 and press 9997 for that show.
For Marcus's Big Brother breaking news and shows, call the same number above, but press 9998 for that show.
For either show, once you're in, press 1, then 0
If you want to hear previous shows, after dialing the above phone number and choosing which show you want, press 2.
We'd love to hear from anyone about these shows and thank you for listening.
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On 12/10/2019 6:38 AM, Gene wrote:
Are those having the problem using Windows 10?  I've never had it happen in Windows 7 or XP.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Lisa P Geibel <mailto:lisapgeibel429@...>
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 10, 2019 5:11 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] NVDA sometimes loses control and needs to be restarted

Hi Vincent and others,

SMILE I hate to break your heart, but you're not the only person this
happens to. I was very glad to see your message and know that I'm not
the only one it happens to. It is a fairly easy fix as you said, but can
get to be a bother and you're right, it does seem to happen when I'm
trying to do multiple things, but it can also happen when I'm just in
the middle of an email. My husband thought it could be TWBlue instead of
NVDA as that program does take a lot of resources, but I unloaded TWBlue
and was still having problems, so I'm thinking as I first thought that
it's something with NVDA and hopefully it will get fixed in the next
update.

Lisa P. Geibel
For Mine and Marcus's Christian and Messianic audio show, call 631-403-1002 and press 9997 for that show.
For Marcus's Big Brother breaking news and shows, call the same number above, but press 9998 for that show.
For either show, once you're in, press 1, then 0
If you want to hear previous shows, after dialing the above phone number and choosing which show you want, press 2.
We'd love to hear from anyone about these shows and thank you for listening.
email:
lisapgeibel429@... <mailto:lisapgeibel429@...>
Twitter:
LisaLisa429
Facebook:
m.facebook.com/ldporter1
May YHWH bless you all

On 12/10/2019 5:55 AM, Vincent Le Goff wrote:
Hi everyone,


This has been happening for some time, on so many computers and with
so many different NVDA versions I can't believe I would be the only
one to see this, and it's not a huge inconvenience, but it's strange
and might be worth looking into.  Regardless of the activity sometimes
NVDA "loses control".  The key hooks (the NVDA key and all the
shortcuts associated with it) stop working.  Using the numeric keypad
works as would without NVDA.  Pressing Caplocks, which is a NVDA key
for me, triggers the CapLock function.  NVDA still works somewhat and
tries to report information, but one can't open the NVDA menu, read
the time, look at the window title or indeed do lots of things
controlled directly by NVDA.


When does it happen?  I've tried to reproduce the issue and it's
tricky.  It never seems to happen at a given time or in any given
application.  All I know is that it seems to "lose control" when a lot
of memory is required by other applications, which creates some kind
of lag.  So this happens in a browser when the site has a lot of
scripts for instance.  This can happen in Word if the document is
long.  This can happen while the Windows CLI is opened and a
"demanding" task is running.  This can happen when lots of update
information is sent to NVDA (the message queue gets long). It happens
more frequently if the machine on which NVDA runs doesn't have a lot
of memory.  It sounds like a Windows lock, not NVDA's fault, but is
there a workaround?  Restarting NVDA and the delay it causes isn't
really annoying, but it's definitely strange.


Most important question though: has anyone noticed this problem? Or am
I the only lucky one?  Does happen!


Thanks,


Vincent




Re: NVDA sometimes loses control and needs to be restarted

Gene
 

Are those having the problem using Windows 10?  I've never had it happen in Windows 7 or XP.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2019 5:11 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA sometimes loses control and needs to be restarted

Hi Vincent and others,

SMILE I hate to break your heart, but you're not the only person this
happens to. I was very glad to see your message and know that I'm not
the only one it happens to. It is a fairly easy fix as you said, but can
get to be a bother and you're right, it does seem to happen when I'm
trying to do multiple things, but it can also happen when I'm just in
the middle of an email. My husband thought it could be TWBlue instead of
NVDA as that program does take a lot of resources, but I unloaded TWBlue
and was still having problems, so I'm thinking as I first thought that
it's something with NVDA and hopefully it will get fixed in the next
update.

Lisa P. Geibel
For Mine and Marcus's Christian and Messianic audio show, call 631-403-1002 and press 9997 for that show.
For Marcus's Big Brother breaking news and shows, call the same number above, but press 9998 for that show.
For either show, once you're in, press 1, then 0
If you want to hear previous shows, after dialing the above phone number and choosing which show you want, press 2.
We'd love to hear from anyone about these shows and thank you for listening.
email:
  lisapgeibel429@...
Twitter:
LisaLisa429
Facebook:
m.facebook.com/ldporter1
May YHWH bless you all

On 12/10/2019 5:55 AM, Vincent Le Goff wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
>
> This has been happening for some time, on so many computers and with
> so many different NVDA versions I can't believe I would be the only
> one to see this, and it's not a huge inconvenience, but it's strange
> and might be worth looking into.  Regardless of the activity sometimes
> NVDA "loses control".  The key hooks (the NVDA key and all the
> shortcuts associated with it) stop working.  Using the numeric keypad
> works as would without NVDA.  Pressing Caplocks, which is a NVDA key
> for me, triggers the CapLock function.  NVDA still works somewhat and
> tries to report information, but one can't open the NVDA menu, read
> the time, look at the window title or indeed do lots of things
> controlled directly by NVDA.
>
>
> When does it happen?  I've tried to reproduce the issue and it's
> tricky.  It never seems to happen at a given time or in any given
> application.  All I know is that it seems to "lose control" when a lot
> of memory is required by other applications, which creates some kind
> of lag.  So this happens in a browser when the site has a lot of
> scripts for instance.  This can happen in Word if the document is
> long.  This can happen while the Windows CLI is opened and a
> "demanding" task is running.  This can happen when lots of update
> information is sent to NVDA (the message queue gets long). It happens
> more frequently if the machine on which NVDA runs doesn't have a lot
> of memory.  It sounds like a Windows lock, not NVDA's fault, but is
> there a workaround?  Restarting NVDA and the delay it causes isn't
> really annoying, but it's definitely strange.
>
>
> Most important question though: has anyone noticed this problem? Or am
> I the only lucky one?  Does happen!
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Vincent
>
>
>
>


Re: one core voices

Rui Fontes
 

Here, it works, but it is not very noticeable...


Rui Fontes


Às 03:04 de 10/12/2019, Don H escreveu:

Running NVDA 2019.3 beta 1 on a win 10 1903 system.
Trying to use the one core voices.  It seems that changing the pitch for capital letters does not work.  Is this the case?


Re: speak password addon

Rui Fontes
 

Yes, Noelia is finishing an addon to that purpose...


Check the oficial repository in a couple of days...


Rui Fontes


Às 02:29 de 10/12/2019, Don H escreveu:

Is there any actions being taken to make the speak passwords addon compatible with 2019.3?


Re: NVDA sometimes loses control and needs to be restarted

Lisa P Geibel
 

Hi Vincent and others,

SMILE I hate to break your heart, but you're not the only person this happens to. I was very glad to see your message and know that I'm not the only one it happens to. It is a fairly easy fix as you said, but can get to be a bother and you're right, it does seem to happen when I'm trying to do multiple things, but it can also happen when I'm just in the middle of an email. My husband thought it could be TWBlue instead of NVDA as that program does take a lot of resources, but I unloaded TWBlue and was still having problems, so I'm thinking as I first thought that it's something with NVDA and hopefully it will get fixed in the next update.

Lisa P. Geibel
For Mine and Marcus's Christian and Messianic audio show, call 631-403-1002 and press 9997 for that show.
For Marcus's Big Brother breaking news and shows, call the same number above, but press 9998 for that show.
For either show, once you're in, press 1, then 0
If you want to hear previous shows, after dialing the above phone number and choosing which show you want, press 2.
We'd love to hear from anyone about these shows and thank you for listening.
email:
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On 12/10/2019 5:55 AM, Vincent Le Goff wrote:
Hi everyone,


This has been happening for some time, on so many computers and with so many different NVDA versions I can't believe I would be the only one to see this, and it's not a huge inconvenience, but it's strange and might be worth looking into.  Regardless of the activity sometimes NVDA "loses control".  The key hooks (the NVDA key and all the shortcuts associated with it) stop working.  Using the numeric keypad works as would without NVDA.  Pressing Caplocks, which is a NVDA key for me, triggers the CapLock function.  NVDA still works somewhat and tries to report information, but one can't open the NVDA menu, read the time, look at the window title or indeed do lots of things controlled directly by NVDA.


When does it happen?  I've tried to reproduce the issue and it's tricky.  It never seems to happen at a given time or in any given application.  All I know is that it seems to "lose control" when a lot of memory is required by other applications, which creates some kind of lag.  So this happens in a browser when the site has a lot of scripts for instance.  This can happen in Word if the document is long.  This can happen while the Windows CLI is opened and a "demanding" task is running.  This can happen when lots of update information is sent to NVDA (the message queue gets long). It happens more frequently if the machine on which NVDA runs doesn't have a lot of memory.  It sounds like a Windows lock, not NVDA's fault, but is there a workaround?  Restarting NVDA and the delay it causes isn't really annoying, but it's definitely strange.


Most important question though: has anyone noticed this problem? Or am I the only lucky one?  Does happen!


Thanks,


Vincent


NVDA sometimes loses control and needs to be restarted

Vincent Le Goff
 

Hi everyone,


This has been happening for some time, on so many computers and with so many different NVDA versions I can't believe I would be the only one to see this, and it's not a huge inconvenience, but it's strange and might be worth looking into.  Regardless of the activity sometimes NVDA "loses control".  The key hooks (the NVDA key and all the shortcuts associated with it) stop working.  Using the numeric keypad works as would without NVDA.  Pressing Caplocks, which is a NVDA key for me, triggers the CapLock function.  NVDA still works somewhat and tries to report information, but one can't open the NVDA menu, read the time, look at the window title or indeed do lots of things controlled directly by NVDA.


When does it happen?  I've tried to reproduce the issue and it's tricky.  It never seems to happen at a given time or in any given application.  All I know is that it seems to "lose control" when a lot of memory is required by other applications, which creates some kind of lag.  So this happens in a browser when the site has a lot of scripts for instance.  This can happen in Word if the document is long.  This can happen while the Windows CLI is opened and a "demanding" task is running.  This can happen when lots of update information is sent to NVDA (the message queue gets long). It happens more frequently if the machine on which NVDA runs doesn't have a lot of memory.  It sounds like a Windows lock, not NVDA's fault, but is there a workaround?  Restarting NVDA and the delay it causes isn't really annoying, but it's definitely strange.


Most important question though: has anyone noticed this problem? Or am I the only lucky one?  Does happen!


Thanks,


Vincent

Re: NVDA 2019.3 Beta 1 is out

Afik Souffir <afik.souffir@...>
 

Hey rui

Just let us know when the updated driver will uploaded.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rui Fontes
Sent: Monday, December 9, 2019 9:37 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2019.3 Beta 1 is out

Hello!


For Vocalizer Expressive from Tiflotecnia, we kindly request to deactivate the license, perform the update of NVDA, update the Vocalizer Expressive driver and reactivate the license...

Note that the availability of a activation deactived take some hours...
so, if you have 0 activations remaining, contact us first...


The new sdriver should be uploaded to our webpage in a couple of days...


Rui Fontes

Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Às 16:55 de 09/12/2019, Mike Sedmak escreveu:
Will python 3 compatible synthesizers be backwards compatible with 2019.2?
Or will vocalizer and other synth users need to:
1. disable the current synth
2. upgrade to 2019.3
3. Download the synth update and re-enable the synthesizer

Thanks,
Mike

On 12/9/19, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:
Replying to everyone at once just to save traffic:

Kostadin: I'm not sure when the translation freeze will begin, I'd
suggest likely early in the new year, but don't quote me on that -
I'll try to get you a more up to date answer.

Shaun: I'm not sure what you were replying to there about not wanting
another announcement? Which one don't you want? Also re audio
themes, yes, it will come, not in 2019.3, but it will come :)

Robert: Feel free to try the beta out, even if you are using
non-standard add-ons, at least you can work out what will work and
what won't and maybe find an alternative way for some things or
convince add-on authors to update (and ideally publish on the community page - unless they....
wouldn't meet the legal requirements, shall we say, in which case, do
consider finding an alternative :))

Gene: Glad the update didn't break your startup setting. Fingers
crossed it works from now on! :)

Quentin.

On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 7:52 PM hurrikennyandopo ... <
hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:

Hi Quentin


I noticed this time when I down loaded the beta it keeped my setting
for starting nvda when windows starts up. it used to un check the
box so glad it is fixed.


Well I am guessing it will stay the same from now on with each beta
update?


Gene nz


On 9/12/2019 8:32 pm, Quentin Christensen wrote:

Hi Sky,

The copy to clipboard etc conversation comes up regularly. For now,
I'll just direct you to my comment last time this came up:
https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/message/66783

Re Remote, there are arguments for and against that. For, as you
say, means new users don't need to install an update. Against is we
often get asked by companies installing NVDA about security and what
data NVDA can or does send. Currently, it's quite easy to answer,
as the program sends very little information and no personal
information or speech content or what the user is doing. If we
included Remote in the core, we'd need to work out how to keep
everyone happy. I'm not saying we can't or wouldn't, but it won't
be in 2019.3 (not least of which because aside from whether we agree
or not, we don't tend to add too many new features after we release
a beta - from now on, work on 2019.3 will primarily be around
stability and addressing any issues which get reported. New
features will still be worked on, but for Alpha releases looking
towards inclusion in 2019.1.

Regards

Quentin.

On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 6:21 PM Sky Mundell <skyt@...> wrote:

Hello Quentin. I have downloaded the NVDA 2019.3.1 Beta release,
and I have noticed a huge improvements over the 2019.2 one. Speech
refactor is certainly a wonderful thing and I applaud speech refactor very much.
However, there is one suggestion that could be included in the next
betas.
And that is the ability to have NVDA say, copied to clipboard, cut
to clipboard, without the need for an add-on, and the second is I’d
like to see the remote functionality built into the core of NVDA so
that those of us who train on NVDA like myself can help clients
without them having to install add-ons. Thanks, Sky.



*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf
Of *Quentin Christensen
*Sent:* Sunday, December 08, 2019 10:24 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* [nvda] NVDA 2019.3 Beta 1 is out



Hi everyone,



The big news you've all been waiting for - 2019.3 beta 1 is out.
Read the full release notes here:
https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2019-3beta1-now-available-for-te
sting/



As well as the update to Python, there are lots of exciting things
in this release, some of these were covered in In-Process recently:
https://www.nvaccess.org/post/in-process-29th-november/ and a few
more will be highlighted in the next In-Process



Be sure to download it and please do let us know what works and
importantly, what doesn't:
https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2019-3beta1-now-available-for-te
sting/



Kind regards



Quentin.



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Training and Support Manager

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Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/
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Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
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Re: Console and NVDA 2019.3 beta 1

John Isige
 

I can report that it reads the console for me just fine, on a Surface 4
Pro, or at least, that's what this Surface claims to be. My console UIA
support is set to automatic. The checkbox about using legacy text is
checked. These are probably 2019.3-Beta1 default settings, since I
didn't change anything. Hope that helps.

On 12/9/2019 10:56 PM, Tyler Spivey wrote:
Press NVDA+5 until it says read dynamic content changes on.

If that didn't fix it, try going into NVDA's advanced settings and
disable the UIA console. It's some new feature added recently that
still has some bugs to iron out.


On 12/9/2019 7:03 PM, Ryan Mann wrote:
This morning, I was trying the beta on a Surface Pro running Windows
10 professional.  I noticed that when I opened the console and
started typing commands, NVDA didn’t automatically read the output. 
Does anybody else notice this?  If nobody else notices, this might be
an issue with my machine.


Re: Console and NVDA 2019.3 beta 1

Tyler Spivey
 

Press NVDA+5 until it says read dynamic content changes on.

If that didn't fix it, try going into NVDA's advanced settings and disable the UIA console. It's some new feature added recently that still has some bugs to iron out.

On 12/9/2019 7:03 PM, Ryan Mann wrote:
This morning, I was trying the beta on a Surface Pro running Windows 10 professional. I noticed that when I opened the console and started typing commands, NVDA didn’t automatically read the output. Does anybody else notice this? If nobody else notices, this might be an issue with my machine.

Re: 2019.3 advanced settings

 

Hi,
Nope - it is meant for use in command line tools.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Monday, December 9, 2019 6:59 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] 2019.3 advanced settings

Under what's new for 2019.3 it says that you can get passwords to speak under NVDA advanced settings. Is this for NVDA to speak passwords on such web sites as banking and such?

NVDA with Zoom

Surendra JUJJAVARAPU
 

Dear All,

I am faceing small issue on zoom, while i am in the meeting if i am navigating the menus. the persons who are in the meeting also can hear the NVDA voices. there is any addon for it to mute the voice of NVDA. that means must be hear by us ,not by others in the meeting.



thanks and regards
J.Surendra

Re: Console and NVDA 2019.3 beta 1

John Isige
 

I'll check it out. I haven't updated to the beta yet because I was
waiting on Remote like everybody else, but I can update to the beta and
test. I'll try to get to it later tonight.

On 12/9/2019 9:03 PM, Ryan Mann wrote:
This morning, I was trying the beta on a Surface Pro running Windows 10 professional. I noticed that when I opened the console and started typing commands, NVDA didn’t automatically read the output. Does anybody else notice this? If nobody else notices, this might be an issue with my machine.

Re: NVDA 2019.3 Beta 1 is out

Gary Metzler
 

Hi Quentin,

 

Thanks for the explanation.  It is very helpful.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Monday, December 9, 2019 5:30 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2019.3 Beta 1 is out

 

Hi Gary,

 

I can reproduce that, it looks like it's been an issue for awhile: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/8961  The reason you are hearing the noise is because NVDA plays a sound when an error is recorded to the log in Alpha or Beta versions.  The errors don't seem to affect the actual running of NVDA or Outlook, so running a stable version of NVDA, you wouldn't have noticed anything, even though the errors were still generated.

 

While it would still be worth aiming to fix these errors, because they don't impact use aside from the error generated, it doesn't tend to be as high priority as something which does affect using the software.

 

Regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 7:02 AM Gary Metzler <gmtravel@...> wrote:

Hi Quentin,

 

I am running the latest windows 10 and nvda beta 1.  The thing I notice is when I start outlook 2016 I get a sound that I never got before.  I just wanted to let you know.  Other then that beta 1 is working fine.  

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Monday, December 9, 2019 1:24 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA 2019.3 Beta 1 is out

 

Hi everyone,

 

The big news you've all been waiting for - 2019.3 beta 1 is out.  Read the full release notes here: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2019-3beta1-now-available-for-testing/

 

As well as the update to Python, there are lots of exciting things in this release, some of these were covered in In-Process recently: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/in-process-29th-november/ and a few more will be highlighted in the next In-Process

 

Be sure to download it and please do let us know what works and importantly, what doesn't: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2019-3beta1-now-available-for-testing/

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 



--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 

one core voices

Don H
 

Running NVDA 2019.3 beta 1 on a win 10 1903 system.
Trying to use the one core voices. It seems that changing the pitch for capital letters does not work. Is this the case?

Console and NVDA 2019.3 beta 1

Ryan Mann
 

This morning, I was trying the beta on a Surface Pro running Windows 10 professional. I noticed that when I opened the console and started typing commands, NVDA didn’t automatically read the output. Does anybody else notice this? If nobody else notices, this might be an issue with my machine.

2019.3 advanced settings

Don H
 

Under what's new for 2019.3 it says that you can get passwords to speak under NVDA advanced settings. Is this for NVDA to speak passwords on such web sites as banking and such?