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Re: NVDA and Itunes 12.4.0.119

Arlene
 

That's craziness! Whoever created I tunes should keep it accessable for both
apple and windows computers. I've used it on my room mate's I pad and it's
okay. That is why I never installed it om my 7 box. I had it there before
and had trouble with it and I uninstalled it. I had it on my second xp box.
I haven't tried it since then.

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Ingrid-Merethe Berget
Sent: May-23-16 9:48 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and Itunes 12.4.0.119

Hi,

I use Itunes on my PC. After i updated to the newest version of Itunes
(12.4.0.119) i can't navigate my music library any longer. NVDA only
reads out the first item in every column and doesn't tell me when I move
around or where i have moved to (I use the arrow keys to navigate). I
don't use Braille display so that is unfortunately not an option. Does
anybody have the same problem and/or a solution or an idea what could be
wrong?

Thank you and regards from Norway
Ingrid-Merethe


Re: NVDA and Itunes 12.4.0.119

Arlene
 

You know, If Apple is giving PC users I Tunes they should keep it accessible
for all screen readers! Do you think it's truly meant for Apple computers
and I devices? If that's the case, they shouldn't release it to windows
computers. If they do they should make it accessable for all apple and
windows computers. I think it's craziness to have it released to windows
being accessable then suddenly not. Do you think with ten I tunes is not
good or is it for all. Like windows 7 and ten? Or, is it because I Tunes had
been updated and it's the way it is?

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris
Shook
Sent: May-23-16 10:07 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Itunes 12.4.0.119

Hi Ingrid,
You aren't the only one having trouble with iTunes. NVDA nor JAWS is
working well with it at the moment. Do you have any other screen readers?
Chris


Re: Drag and Drop with NVDA

mk360
 

Hi,

I route mouse to object cursor with insert / (numpad slash) so if I need to drag some things I place the object navigation to the object that I need to move, press insert /, next shift / to lock the left mouse clic, next I move the object navigation cursor to the place where I need to move the object I selected, move again the mouse to the object cursor with insert /, and unlock the left mouse clic with shift /. If all worked correctly the objec will be moved to the new location, it depends if the object can be moved with the mouse obviously.

I don't know if my english can be sufficient to explain this... if it can't be understood I can try again :D

Regards,
mk.

On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 3:11 PM, Arianna Sepulveda <englishrider91@...> wrote:
Brian, having never used this program for, and not being very familiar with drag-and-drop operations overall, let alone with NVDA, i'm only going to attempt to answer the first part of your question. I would think that you should be able to move to each column header using NVDA's Object Navigation. Then you would route the mouses focus to that object. I can't remember the command to do this, but I'm pretty sure there is one. If that fails, try using the text review commands, and if on a laptop, hitting shift+insert+m when you get to the column header that you want. This should route the mouse's focus to the text that you're on when using the text review commands. Sorry I can't be of more help. I hope this will give you a place with which to start experimenting.


Thanks,
Ari

On May 23, 2016, at 11:14 AM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

Hello All,

           This post has some broad elements asking about drag and drop operations in NVDA plus a couple of specifics to the situation.  I am just not sure where to look in available documentation.

            Someone on the Blindtech group asked this morning about reordering the columns in the inbox (or other folder) display on Thunderbird.  The only way that I can find to do this in their own documentation and through my own experimentation/exploration is via drag and drop.

            In NVDA, if I am not using mouse tracking I have yet to find a way to get focus thrown to any of the inbox column headings and I have to believe there is a way to do this.  If someone could let me know what that is I'd appreciate it.

            Once I have focus on a given column heading the way to move it via mouse is drag and drop, so I'd imagine I initiate a drag and drop via Left Mouse Button Lock, INS+NumPad Divide for desktop or CAPS Lock+CTRL+Left Square Bracket for laptop.  What I don't know is, once one has the column ready to drag, how does one move the actual mouse pointer to drag it.  My gut tells me it's whichever one prefers:  the hard arrow keys or the Num Pad arrow keys.  I have not, however, found this documented.

             I also have to believe that the drop action is either done with a Left Mouse Button Click sequence or else a repetition of the Left Mouse Button Lock if it is a toggle that releases when done again.

             Any and all assistance is appreciated.  The instances where drag and drop appears to be the only option are quite rare, but I'd like to know how it is done for those rare occasions where it's needed.
 
Brian
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Re: Drag and Drop with NVDA

Arianna Sepulveda
 

Brian, having never used this program for, and not being very familiar with drag-and-drop operations overall, let alone with NVDA, i'm only going to attempt to answer the first part of your question. I would think that you should be able to move to each column header using NVDA's Object Navigation. Then you would route the mouses focus to that object. I can't remember the command to do this, but I'm pretty sure there is one. If that fails, try using the text review commands, and if on a laptop, hitting shift+insert+m when you get to the column header that you want. This should route the mouse's focus to the text that you're on when using the text review commands. Sorry I can't be of more help. I hope this will give you a place with which to start experimenting.


Thanks,
Ari

On May 23, 2016, at 11:14 AM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

Hello All,

           This post has some broad elements asking about drag and drop operations in NVDA plus a couple of specifics to the situation.  I am just not sure where to look in available documentation.

            Someone on the Blindtech group asked this morning about reordering the columns in the inbox (or other folder) display on Thunderbird.  The only way that I can find to do this in their own documentation and through my own experimentation/exploration is via drag and drop.

            In NVDA, if I am not using mouse tracking I have yet to find a way to get focus thrown to any of the inbox column headings and I have to believe there is a way to do this.  If someone could let me know what that is I'd appreciate it.

            Once I have focus on a given column heading the way to move it via mouse is drag and drop, so I'd imagine I initiate a drag and drop via Left Mouse Button Lock, INS+NumPad Divide for desktop or CAPS Lock+CTRL+Left Square Bracket for laptop.  What I don't know is, once one has the column ready to drag, how does one move the actual mouse pointer to drag it.  My gut tells me it's whichever one prefers:  the hard arrow keys or the Num Pad arrow keys.  I have not, however, found this documented.

             I also have to believe that the drop action is either done with a Left Mouse Button Click sequence or else a repetition of the Left Mouse Button Lock if it is a toggle that releases when done again.

             Any and all assistance is appreciated.  The instances where drag and drop appears to be the only option are quite rare, but I'd like to know how it is done for those rare occasions where it's needed.
 
Brian
-- 

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Drag and Drop with NVDA

 

Hello All,

           This post has some broad elements asking about drag and drop operations in NVDA plus a couple of specifics to the situation.  I am just not sure where to look in available documentation.

            Someone on the Blindtech group asked this morning about reordering the columns in the inbox (or other folder) display on Thunderbird.  The only way that I can find to do this in their own documentation and through my own experimentation/exploration is via drag and drop.

            In NVDA, if I am not using mouse tracking I have yet to find a way to get focus thrown to any of the inbox column headings and I have to believe there is a way to do this.  If someone could let me know what that is I'd appreciate it.

            Once I have focus on a given column heading the way to move it via mouse is drag and drop, so I'd imagine I initiate a drag and drop via Left Mouse Button Lock, INS+NumPad Divide for desktop or CAPS Lock+CTRL+Left Square Bracket for laptop.  What I don't know is, once one has the column ready to drag, how does one move the actual mouse pointer to drag it.  My gut tells me it's whichever one prefers:  the hard arrow keys or the Num Pad arrow keys.  I have not, however, found this documented.

             I also have to believe that the drop action is either done with a Left Mouse Button Click sequence or else a repetition of the Left Mouse Button Lock if it is a toggle that releases when done again.

             Any and all assistance is appreciated.  The instances where drag and drop appears to be the only option are quite rare, but I'd like to know how it is done for those rare occasions where it's needed.
 
Brian
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Re: very good news about audio conversion soft ware

Curtis Delzer
 

I will do it right now, though a few dozen days late? :)
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4910953/CDex-1.81-win32.exe


-----
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K6VFO
San Bernardino, CA

On Tue, 03 May 2016 15:17:33 -0400
"Bobby" <bvinton@optonline.net> wrote:

Well I don't use drop box butt if you are willing I can put together a folder in bittorrent cync when I have the time


On 5/3/2016 2:41 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
Could you perhaps give us all a public dropbox link to the setup file?
---
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Training Instructor.
clgilland07@gmail.com <mailto:clgilland07@gmail.com>
Phone: (704) 256-8010.

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*From:* Bobby <mailto:bvinton@optonline.net>
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Sent:* Tuesday, May 03, 2016 2:24 PM
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] very good news about audio conversion soft ware

no our hopes are not dashed at all because I just got the new
version. The new version is cdex version 1.81. I never got a
message about malware. I have the program and it works very well
and faster than the older versions.


On 5/3/2016 2:06 PM, erik burggraaf wrote:
Uh oh. That's the official site. For sure. When I went to the
old site http://cdexos.sourceforge.net it redirected me to that
cdex.nu site which looks exactly like the old cdex source forge
site. Maybe our hopes are dashed and the entire project has been
highjacked? It's been at least 10 years since the last upgrade
as far as I know.

Best,

Erik Burggraaf


On May 3, 2016, at 10:54 AM, Dan Beaver <dbeaver888@gmail.com>
wrote:

Hi,


You might want to be careful about getting software from this
site. I too have used cdex for many years and wanted to ghet
the new version. However, when I clicked on the link Sophos
stopped my browser and said that some mal ware had been found on
that site.


I am now pondering whether or not I want to get it from there.


Dan Beaver


On 5/3/2016 12:32 PM, erik burggraaf wrote:
This is fantastic news! I've used cdex for over 15 years and I
never thought we'd see another update.

New website address as well:
http://cdex.mu/download

Do not use filehipo or some other third party source like that
or you will risk your computer getting extras you didn't ask for.

Best,

Erik Burggraaf


On May 3, 2016, at 9:17 AM, Bobby <bvinton@optonline.net> wrote:

I just wanted to tell you all about an old converter and cd
reader called c dex. Cdex is the fastest audio converter and
they just came out with a new version today. You can get this
progran at filehippo.com <http://filehippo.com/>;. Let me know
what you think of it when you get it.




Re: NVDA and Itunes 12.4.0.119

Chris Shook <chris0309@...>
 

Hi Ingrid,
You aren't the only one having trouble with iTunes. NVDA nor JAWS is working well with it at the moment. Do you have any other screen readers?
Chris


NVDA and Itunes 12.4.0.119

Ingrid-Merethe Berget <iberget1@...>
 

Hi,

I use Itunes on my PC. After i updated to the newest version of Itunes (12.4.0.119) i can't navigate my music library any longer. NVDA only reads out the first item in every column and doesn't tell me when I move around or where i have moved to (I use the arrow keys to navigate). I don't use Braille display so that is unfortunately not an option. Does anybody have the same problem and/or a solution or an idea what could be wrong?

Thank you and regards from Norway
Ingrid-Merethe


Re: Weather+ NVDA add-on required

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Group,


I figured out how to add/update cities from my old installation of the Weather Add On to the current system.  There is no separate edit field for adding cities neither is there a list of countries/states/cities as in the old system.  However, Under NVDA/preferences/Weather Add On/manage city IDs/list of existing cities, that list of existing cities (the cities you have configured in your own program) that listing is an edit combo box.  If you type in city names in the format: name,State or country, you will get some matches.  You then tab once to the test button and press space bar.  If the find is valid, you will hear a beep and the city will appear in the edit combo box listing.  If the city/state or country is not valid, you will get a message as such. 


This seems to me a clumsy way of adding or editing existing cities, but it does work.  I had over 100 cities in the old system, so I am slowly updating the information, city by city.



On 5/22/2016 9:36 PM, Kwork wrote:
Oo, thank you. After using the help to  create my openweathermap account, I
got it working. My only complaint was that it should have been made a bit
more clear, and more easily done for turning a temporary city into a
permanent one.
Travis
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Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 5:45 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Weather+ NVDA add-on required


Hello there Bhavya and all,


Here's a link to my Dropbox with the new, latest version of Weather+ add-on.

It's 3.8, if memory serves.

I haven't installed it yet, so I can't give any help on it.


https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3918790/Weather%20Plus3.8.nvda-addon


Ciao,

Ollie





Il 21/05/2016 22:10, Bhavya shah ha scritto:
Dear all,
I am looking for the Weather+ NVDA add-on, which still works as
opposed to the currently non-functional Weather+ add-on.
I believe it is available on NVDA's Italian website, i.e. nvda.it, but
it seems that this website is down at the moment.
Therefore, it would be really appreciated if someone could upload the
NVDA add-on package of Weather+ and share its download link.
I woudl appreciate any assistance.
Thanks.









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Re: Suggestions for sound recording programs: was, New Member (5)

Bhavya shah
 

Hi Gene,
However many errors there may be, I am sure it will help me figure out
a bit more than where I am stuck already, and I hope I am able to
understand the more advanced non-documented or wrongly explained parts
myself. In a nutshell, all your help is really appreciated, and I am
downloading the sent podcast at the moment, and will revert back in
case doubts persist.
Thanks.

On 5/23/16, Brian's Mail list account <bglists@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
Chuckle... I know what you mean, I now do not know where this started to
read back to.
I still use old version of Goldwave, but there are quite a few and I'd
advocate seeing which one suites your needs best and is built the way you
want it to be. I did try Audacity, but found the project and all that stuff

a bit too awkward when I needed to bring in and edit existing files
quickly.
Brian

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From: "Lino Morales" <linomorales001@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 1:39 AM
Subject: Re: Suggestions for sound recording programs: was, [nvda] New
Member (5)


Yes mommy. LOL I should have changed it myself.


On 5/22/2016 8:22 PM, Gene wrote:
Also, will people please change subject lines when the thread changes
to the point where it has nothing to do with the original subject.
The subject line still says new member and the discussion is now about
audio recorders. I'm not saying that people should change subject
lines if the topic still is reasonably related to the original but
this isn't even remotely related.
I am changing the subject line in this thread with this message.
Gene

*From:* Gene <mailto:gsasner@ripco.com>
*Sent:* Sunday, May 22, 2016 7:15 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] New Member (5)

If the sound recorder program in Windows 10 is like the one in Windows
7, it's almost worthless. In the Windows 7 program, you can't edit
and it records in the MP3 format as I recall. I know you can't choose
formats and I know it’s a lossy format. Whether ogg or MP3, its so
limited that it's more like a toy.
I don't recall if it even has a pause button and if it resumes
recording or overwrites the file if you stop and start it. What
program did you used to use? If you used the old XP sound recorder,
that may still work in Windows 10. I got it to work in Windows 7. I
can suggest programs to use to create a podcast file and edit it. For
example, you might use a program I have to record the podcast file and
then edit with Mp3 Direct Cut. Both programs will produce MP3 files
but, for reasons I won't go into now, it's better to use one program I
can discuss for editing and MP3 Direct Cut for editing.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Pranav Lal <mailto:pranav.lal@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Sunday, May 22, 2016 7:02 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] New Member (5)

Hi,

The sound recorder in Windows 10 is called voice recorder. Search for
it by using the search feature which you can access by pressing
ctrl+escape. It is accessible.

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jolene Cardenas
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 12:42 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] New Member (5)

Hello once more,

Thank you for your responses, for I enjoyed reading them a lot!

Further specs: My Web browser is the latest version of Firefox (even
though a sighted friend told me that Google Chrome was better), my
default media player is Windows Media Player 12 (not The Groove Music
from Windows 10), and Gmail is the only e-mail source I use. Since
Windows 10 doesn't come with the Sound Recorder program like how
previous versions of Windows does, I'm missing it a lot because I use
it for Podcasting and other projects. Can any Windows 10 user
recommend any sound-recording program that would work well with it +
NVDA? I'd appreciate your feedback so much.

Just FYI: I have no usable vision in both eyes to read large print so
I'm totally dependent on NVDA to do all my reading out loud for me.

Take care, and have a good day.

sincerely,

Jolene.









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Re: nvda using windows 7 installation problem

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I don't recall out of the box, or cardboard packet that Windows 7 was very good to install without sighted help, unless you used a script or custom install that allowed drivers to be loaded for the sound first.

I certainly had to get a man in.


Brian

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Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 9:02 PM
Subject: [nvda] nvda using windows 7 installation problem


hi. problem. installation will not voice. nothing.

note. zoom text is also installed. would there be a compatibility problem?

any help would be appreciated.

thanks ... william


Re: Windows 10 shortcuts to items

Brian's Mail list account BY <bglists@...>
 

Yes. I had hopedto also make UAC completely off, but even with it at zero it still has some things that are blocked.

I was thinking about the registry hacking myself, but one should not have to resort to that. Much like in Firefox's extended configs, it should be possible with dire warnings to configure the machine to be open and easy to get at everything.
Brian

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Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 8:28 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 shortcuts to items


Well to be honest, sound wise I did through a forum find the reg hacks to get login off shutdown and unlock sounds to actually like appear.
However while yes they have sfx, no they won't be active.
I don't know why this is.
But there is a way to in appevents of the hkey current user change all the sounds with 0s in them to 1s and they will show as events with their sounds and you can play them.
There must be something more to activating these events and I have not found what that is.



On 22/05/2016 9:10 p.m., Brian's Mail list account wrote:
I'm looking to make simpler some things in 10. I find having to search
for stuff long winded and also access via a huge tree of interconnected
dialogues is also a bit slow.
For example, how can one get to just a list of drives on the computer,
how can one get to the main screen of windows defender to do manual scans.
These are just two of the things I can do in windows 7, very easily,
but seem to be very irritatingly awkward on 10.
I have found the sound level of running programs dialogue and put a
shortcut to it, and this works, but in many cases in 10, despite classic
shell, and being an admin, I get blocked by you are not allowed to do
this or that, but when it is accessed via loads of menues links and
whatever, it goes there quite happily.
I seldom myself use start menu, preferring to get things either ron the
desktop or to put a folder of the shortcuts on the desktop. This saves a
lot of messing about in searches and scrolling up and down start menus
to find its been listed under some daft letter rather than the logical one.
Brian

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Re: Windows 10 shortcuts to items

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Well, maybe not found it yet then.

The create shortcut..... windows cannot create a shortcut here, would you like it on the desktop was very handy in xp and 7.

It just seems to be far less open than it needs to be. the one strength of windows was that you could use many ways to get to a place if for example one of the interim screens was inaccessible, but that is far less easy to do in 10. It could be of course that 8 was the same, but I never bothered to install that update.

One oddity with nvda seems to be these alerts and dialogues that pop up with no apparent indication for the user, like if you want to move a folder from somewhere directly into the program files and its 32 bit counterpart. It appears from nvda that its just not happening but if you alt tab about in nvda you find this little window that wants you to click a choice as the task was suspended. How come this is not in the foreground?

This is what I mean by not being allowed in some cases, and when, say a folder is not accessible one might expect to hear a sound, like you do when trying to access other users areas etc, but in this case one does not, and having looked at the sound scheme, I cannot for the life of me see any way to make these shy windows make a noise!

Brian

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From: "Brian Vogel" <britechguy@gmail.com>
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Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 3:07 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 shortcuts to items


You've answered your own question, largely, in your thread title. One can set up desktop shortcuts quite easily to virtually any app or application (settings are a different matter). If you prefer the old Control Panel for most settings it's available and you can put a shortcut to it on your desktop.

I am annoyed that the "Send to -> Desktop (Create Shortcut)" method is no longer supported from the search results, but the extra step of "Open file location" (which opens the folder containing the program/app, with said program/app already selected) then doing the "send to -> desktop (create shortcut)" works just fine.

The "This PC" file explorer window (for lack of a better way of putting it - it's largely the same as the old "My Computer" window) shows your drives and you can do layout tweaking there.

Brian
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Re: Windows 10 shortcuts to items

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Yes but I want them in a list as per a folder, not in some kind of tree view. This seems almost impossible to fix in this so called easy to access system.

Brian

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Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 shortcuts to items


On 22/05/2016 10:10, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
I'm looking to make simpler some things in 10. I find having to search for stuff long winded and also access via a huge tree of interconnected dialogues is also a bit slow.
For example, how can one get to just a list of drives on the computer, how can one get to the main screen of windows defender to do manual scans.
These are just two of the things I can do in windows 7, very easily, but seem to be very irritatingly awkward on 10.
I have found the sound level of running programs dialogue and put a shortcut to it, and this works, but in many cases in 10, despite classic shell, and being an admin, I get blocked by you are not allowed to do this or that, but when it is accessed via loads of menues links and whatever, it goes there quite happily.
I seldom myself use start menu, preferring to get things either ron the desktop or to put a folder of the shortcuts on the desktop. This saves a lot of messing about in searches and scrolling up and down start menus to find its been listed under some daft letter rather than the logical one.
Brian

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listing your drives. press enter on this computer. and you will find a list of drives at the bottom. Joe



Re: Suggestions for sound recording programs: was, New Member (5)

Jolene Cardenas
 

Gene, thank you for changing the subject line from "Re: New Member" to
this one.
As I was reading the responses and the responses TO responses, I got
so confused that, in the end, I asked myself,

"What does sound recorders have to do with new member?"

Thank you so much for the change of subject!

sincerely,

Jolene.


Re: Suggestions for sound recording programs: was, New Member (5)

Brian's Mail list account BY <bglists@...>
 

Chuckle... I know what you mean, I now do not know where this started to read back to.
I still use old version of Goldwave, but there are quite a few and I'd advocate seeing which one suites your needs best and is built the way you want it to be. I did try Audacity, but found the project and all that stuff a bit too awkward when I needed to bring in and edit existing files quickly.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Lino Morales" <linomorales001@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 1:39 AM
Subject: Re: Suggestions for sound recording programs: was, [nvda] New Member (5)


Yes mommy. LOL I should have changed it myself.


On 5/22/2016 8:22 PM, Gene wrote:
Also, will people please change subject lines when the thread changes
to the point where it has nothing to do with the original subject.
The subject line still says new member and the discussion is now about
audio recorders. I'm not saying that people should change subject
lines if the topic still is reasonably related to the original but
this isn't even remotely related.
I am changing the subject line in this thread with this message.
Gene

*From:* Gene <mailto:gsasner@ripco.com>
*Sent:* Sunday, May 22, 2016 7:15 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] New Member (5)

If the sound recorder program in Windows 10 is like the one in Windows
7, it's almost worthless. In the Windows 7 program, you can't edit
and it records in the MP3 format as I recall. I know you can't choose
formats and I know it’s a lossy format. Whether ogg or MP3, its so
limited that it's more like a toy.
I don't recall if it even has a pause button and if it resumes
recording or overwrites the file if you stop and start it. What
program did you used to use? If you used the old XP sound recorder,
that may still work in Windows 10. I got it to work in Windows 7. I
can suggest programs to use to create a podcast file and edit it. For
example, you might use a program I have to record the podcast file and
then edit with Mp3 Direct Cut. Both programs will produce MP3 files
but, for reasons I won't go into now, it's better to use one program I
can discuss for editing and MP3 Direct Cut for editing.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Pranav Lal <mailto:pranav.lal@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Sunday, May 22, 2016 7:02 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] New Member (5)

Hi,

The sound recorder in Windows 10 is called voice recorder. Search for
it by using the search feature which you can access by pressing
ctrl+escape. It is accessible.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jolene Cardenas
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 12:42 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] New Member (5)

Hello once more,

Thank you for your responses, for I enjoyed reading them a lot!

Further specs: My Web browser is the latest version of Firefox (even
though a sighted friend told me that Google Chrome was better), my
default media player is Windows Media Player 12 (not The Groove Music
from Windows 10), and Gmail is the only e-mail source I use. Since
Windows 10 doesn't come with the Sound Recorder program like how
previous versions of Windows does, I'm missing it a lot because I use
it for Podcasting and other projects. Can any Windows 10 user
recommend any sound-recording program that would work well with it +
NVDA? I'd appreciate your feedback so much.

Just FYI: I have no usable vision in both eyes to read large print so
I'm totally dependent on NVDA to do all my reading out loud for me.

Take care, and have a good day.

sincerely,

Jolene.







Re: Windows 10 shortcuts to items

Mr. Wong Chi Wai <cwwong.pro@...>
 

try using autohotkey



Brian Vogel 於 22/5/2016 22:07 寫道:

You've answered your own question, largely, in your thread title.  One can set up desktop shortcuts quite easily to virtually any app or application (settings are a different matter).  If you prefer the old Control Panel for most settings it's available and you can put a shortcut to it on your desktop.

I am annoyed that the "Send to -> Desktop (Create Shortcut)" method is no longer supported from the search results, but the extra step of "Open file location" (which opens the folder containing the program/app, with said program/app already selected) then doing the "send to -> desktop (create shortcut)" works just fine.

The "This PC" file explorer window (for lack of a better way of putting it - it's largely the same as the old "My Computer" window) shows your drives and you can do layout tweaking there.
 
Brian
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Never underestimate the difficulty of changing false beliefs by facts. 
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Re: Suggestions for sound recording programs: was, New Member (5)

Gene
 

A great deal of the use of Audacity doesn't require scripts.  You may well find that you can do what you want without them.
 
Regarding my presentation, I'll say that there may be an error in it.  I had thought that you have to save files before editing them.  If that ever was true, it isn't now.  I haven't used enter to select files or tracks so I didn't discuss that.  Indeed, that may be one reason I believed you had to save files, because I didn't know things about selection.  When I started using Audacity, selecting a track either wasn't possible from the keyboard or wasn't spoken.  That has long not been the case. 
 
In other words, others may discuss track selection here.  my tutorial will work if you follow it but if you want to edit before saving, you may need to know some things I didn't discuss.
 
My tutorial discusses both audacity and MP3 Direct cut.  You can download it here:

Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 1:29 AM
Subject: Re: Suggestions for sound recording programs: was, [nvda] New Member (5)

Hi Gene,
It would be really appreciated if you could share links to your
tutorial and other guides you mentioned that teach Audacity, even if
intended for use with JAWS. I shall adapt.
The previous audio tutorial series I had tried understanding from was
primarily using the JAWS scripts features which provide automatic
read-outs, and I was unable to find an alternative source for the same
information, despite having reviewed the screen. It was sort of a
little intimidating, to be true.
Thanks.

On 5/23/16, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
> as with so many programs, a lot of what you do are program commands.
> Audacity commands for play, record, and for editing are program commands.
> As in so many cases, if you know how to use a program, you can do a good
> deal with it regardless of screen-reader.  Many people use Gold Wave and
> Audacity with NVDA.  At times, JAWS may have scripts that allow you to do
> more or do some things more easily.  At times, NVDA may have been nodified
> to allow it to work more fully or in an automated way with a program.
> You can often learn a lot from tutorials or a written guide written for
> blind users regardless of which screen-reader they may have been written
> for.
>
> If you know your screen-readers commands such as read current line, etc. and
> how to review the screen. you can use a lot of program commands and look at
> the screen if you don't get automatic readout.
>
> I don't know what you want to do with these programs.  I did a basic
> tutorial for Audacity explaining how to edit and the basics of the program.
> the program has some new features that weren't covered and one of them might
> be very useful in editing.  But you will get a good basic knowledge of how
> to edit and play and record.  I can find a download link if you want it.
> Others may make other suggestions such as the written user Guide to the
> program with JAWS.  I believe that more advanced users may find this to be
> useful but it is very densely written, more like a manual and I think most
> beginner users are far better off using an actual tutorial with oral
> instructions and demonstrations.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Bhavya shah
> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 12:53 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: Suggestions for sound recording programs: was, [nvda] New
> Member (5)
>
>
> Hi,
> I wish there was more readily available documentation for using such
> sound recorders and audio editors with NVDA, not those which only
> record, but those which allow their modification and improvement.
> I have given up on Goldwave for the time being, and am working on
> trying to figure out Audacity with a Skype friend.
> Thanks.
>
> On 5/23/16, David Moore <jesusloves1966@...> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I would like to recommend a great sound recorder called virtual recorder.
>> It
>> is very easy to download and install, and very accessible. When you
>> launch
>> it, you can record your voice with a built in mike, record sounds
>> straight
>> from the sound card, or both. So, it does very well with recording pod
>> casts, because it records your voice great, and it records a screen
>> reader
>> directly from the sound card at the same time, so your voice and screen
>> reader come through loud and clear. There is a record button, stop,
>> pause,
>> and you can record in many formats like MP3, for example. The problem
>> with
>> Voice recorder in win10, is that you only have the choice of recording in
>> a
>> M4A format that is unique to win10. Very few players can play the files
>> that
>> you record with that program. Virtual recorder saves your recordings in a
>> folder that you choose as soon as you stop the recording. The recordings
>> are
>> so clear I have done with it, and it does not take up much room on your
>> computer. There is even a portable version that can run from a USB flash
>> drive. Just type in Virtual Recorder in your search like Google, and you
>> will get a site to download it. You may be able to download it from:
>> www.ninite.com
>> If not, just do a search for it. I absolutely love it. Take care.
>>
>>
>> From: Gene
>> Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 8:22 PM
>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: Suggestions for sound recording programs: was, [nvda] New
>> Member (5)
>>
>> Also, will people please change subject lines when the thread changes to
>> the
>> point where it has nothing to do with the original subject.  The subject
>> line still says new member and the discussion is now about audio
>> recorders.
>> I'm not saying that people should change subject lines if the topic still
>> is
>> reasonably related to the original but this isn't even remotely related.
>>
>> I am changing the subject line in this thread with this message.
>>
>> Gene
>>
>> From: Gene
>> Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 7:15 PM
>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [nvda] New Member (5)
>>
>> If the sound recorder program in Windows 10 is like the one in Windows 7,
>> it's almost worthless.  In the Windows 7 program, you can't edit and it
>> records in the MP3 format as I recall.  I know you can't choose formats
>> and
>> I know it’s a lossy format. Whether ogg or MP3, its so limited that it's
>> more like a toy.
>>
>> I don't recall if it even has a pause button and if it resumes recording
>> or
>> overwrites the file if you stop and start it.  What program did you used
>> to
>> use?  If you used the old XP sound recorder, that may still work in
>> Windows
>> 10.  I got it to work in Windows 7.  I can suggest programs to use to
>> create
>> a podcast file and edit it.  For example, you might use a program I have
>> to
>> record the podcast file and then edit with Mp3 Direct Cut.  Both programs
>> will produce MP3 files but, for reasons I won't go into now, it's better
>> to
>> use one program I can discuss for editing and MP3 Direct Cut for editing.
>>
>> Gene
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: Pranav Lal
>> Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 7:02 PM
>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [nvda] New Member (5)
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> The sound recorder in Windows 10 is called voice recorder. Search for it
>> by
>> using the search feature which you can access by pressing ctrl+escape. It
>> is
>> accessible.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
>> Jolene
>> Cardenas
>> Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 12:42 PM
>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [nvda] New Member (5)
>>
>> Hello once more,
>>
>> Thank you for your responses, for I enjoyed reading them a lot!
>>
>> Further specs: My Web browser is the latest version of Firefox (even
>> though
>> a sighted friend told me that Google Chrome was better), my default media
>> player is Windows Media Player 12 (not The Groove Music from Windows 10),
>> and Gmail is the only e-mail source I use.  Since Windows 10 doesn't come
>> with the Sound Recorder program like how previous versions of Windows
>> does,
>> I'm missing it a lot because I use it for Podcasting and other projects.
>> Can any Windows 10 user recommend any sound-recording program that would
>> work well with it + NVDA?  I'd appreciate your feedback so much.
>>
>> Just FYI: I have no usable vision in both eyes to read large print so I'm
>> totally dependent on NVDA to do all my reading out loud for me.
>>
>> Take care, and have a good day.
>>
>> sincerely,
>>
>> Jolene.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Warm Regards
> Bhavya Shah
> Using NVDA (Non Visual Desktop Access) free and open source screen
> reader for Microsoft Windows
> To download a copy of the free screen reader NVDA, please visit
> http://www.nvaccess.org/
> Using Google Talkback on Motorolla G second generation Lollipop 5.0.2
> Reach me through the following means:
> Mobile: +91 7506221750
> E-mail id: bhavya.shah125@...
> Skype id : bhavya.09
>
>
>
>


--
Warm Regards
Bhavya Shah
Using NVDA (Non Visual Desktop Access) free and open source screen
reader for Microsoft Windows
To download a copy of the free screen reader NVDA, please visit
http://www.nvaccess.org/
Using Google Talkback on Motorolla G second generation Lollipop 5.0.2
Reach me through the following means:
Mobile: +91 7506221750
E-mail id: bhavya.shah125@...
Skype id : bhavya.09




Re: Rainbow Bridge crossing

Mallard
 

Laurie,


It's so comforting to know there are people who care.


Blessings to you.

Ciao,

Ollie

Il 23/05/2016 05:43, Laurie Mehta via Groups.io ha scritto:
Ollie,
I am also sorry to hear of your guide's passing on.
That is always so hard... no matter how many guides any of us has had.
Please be good to yourself.
You're in my prayers.

And, thank you Travis, for changing the subject line-- that helped me to open the message sooner.
-Laurie

--------------------------------------------
On Sun, 5/22/16, Kwork <istherelife@gmail.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [nvda] Rainbow Bridge crossing
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Date: Sunday, May 22, 2016, 9:45 PM
Ollie, I'm very very
sorry to hear about your dog crossing the rainbow
bridge. That was very sad news for me to read.
You're in my prayers.
Travis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mallard" <mallard@kimabe.eu>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 8:13 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Weather+ NVDA add-on
required
Now that my old guide dog has gone to Rainbow
Bridge, and I no longer
have to look after
her, I'll have moer time to spend on other things,
and Weather+ will be one of them...
Ciao,
Ollie



Re: Rainbow Bridge crossing

Mallard
 

Thanks for your closeness and prayers, Travis. It's very hard; Pivi was my fifth guide dog, but she was really special. I miss her so much...

Ciao,

Ollie

Il 23/05/2016 03:45, Kwork ha scritto:
Ollie, I'm very very sorry to hear about your dog crossing the rainbow
bridge. That was very sad news for me to read. You're in my prayers.
Travis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mallard" <mallard@kimabe.eu>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 8:13 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Weather+ NVDA add-on required


Now that my old guide dog has gone to Rainbow Bridge, and I no longer
have to look after her, I'll have moer time to spend on other things,
and Weather+ will be one of them...

Ciao,

Ollie