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Re: ESPEAK

P. Otter
 

hi all,
Despite the poor quality are a lot of languages ​​supported intelligibility
when nvda will be installed, nvda begins with the native language.
after installing you always can make a choice for another synthesizer or keep espeak.
it is not a good idea to remove espeak from the nvda installer.

so keep espeak in the installation of nvda, that's my opinion.
cheers
paul otter

----- Original Message -----
From: "Eigeldinger Simon" <simon.eigeldinger@...>
To: <nvda@groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2016 12:52 PM
Subject: AW: [nvda] ESPEAK


I think espeak /espeak ng needs to stay because no other synth does support so many languages.
Other synths can be installed afterwards.

Greetings,
Simon


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Von: Aravind R [mailto:aravind.andhrabank@...]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 20. April 2016 12:06
An: nvda@groups.io
Betreff: Re: [nvda] ESPEAK

in india, eSpeak only reads most of the indian languages like tamil,
marati, telugu etc and we will struggle to read languages written in
indian languages.
so eSpeak is necessary for us.

On 4/20/16, Christo Vorster <christo.vorster@...> wrote:
Hi list



I do not necessarily agree with the idea to do away with ESpeak. I believe
that is a case of "horses for causes."



In South Africa, more specifically, at the Institute for the Blind in
Worcester where I am a lecturer, we extensively use ESpeak to read
Afrikaans. And may I say, the quality of ESpeak's Afrikaans is actually
very
good.



I won't mind if the developers do away with ESpeak, but before that happens
I want definite proof that the replacement program has, at least, the same
quality, preferably, better.



Cheers



Christo


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Re: ESPEAK

Christo Vorster
 

It makes sense to me. The English world often do not comprehend the difficulty we, from non-english countries, experience with speech packages. There was a time, when I used JAWS, and it wasn't long ago, that I had to read Afrikaans documents, even books, with JAWS and the Afrikaans was genuinely terrible. I know some of my friend sometimes make use of Dutch, but that still isn't the answer.

I don't mean to say that the English speaking people are unsympathetic or anything like that, but sometimes one don't think about it in that way.

Greetings

Christo

-----Original Message-----
From: Aravind R [mailto:aravind.andhrabank@...]
Sent: Wednesday, 20 April 2016 12:06 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] ESPEAK

in india, eSpeak only reads most of the indian languages like tamil, marati, telugu etc and we will struggle to read languages written in indian languages.
so eSpeak is necessary for us.

On 4/20/16, Christo Vorster <christo.vorster@...> wrote:
Hi list



I do not necessarily agree with the idea to do away with ESpeak. I
believe that is a case of "horses for causes."



In South Africa, more specifically, at the Institute for the Blind in
Worcester where I am a lecturer, we extensively use ESpeak to read
Afrikaans. And may I say, the quality of ESpeak's Afrikaans is
actually very good.



I won't mind if the developers do away with ESpeak, but before that
happens I want definite proof that the replacement program has, at
least, the same quality, preferably, better.



Cheers



Christo


--
nothing is difficult unless you make it appear so.

r. aravind,

Assistant manager
Department of sales
bank of baroda retail loan factory, Chennai.
mobile no: +91 9940369593, 9710945613.
email id : aravind_069@..., aravind.andhrabank@....


AW: ESPEAK

Eigeldinger Simon <simon.eigeldinger@...>
 

I think espeak /espeak ng needs to stay because no other synth does support so many languages.
Other synths can be installed afterwards.

Greetings,
Simon


Mit freundlichen Grüßen

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-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Aravind R [mailto:aravind.andhrabank@...]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 20. April 2016 12:06
An: nvda@groups.io
Betreff: Re: [nvda] ESPEAK

in india, eSpeak only reads most of the indian languages like tamil,
marati, telugu etc and we will struggle to read languages written in
indian languages.
so eSpeak is necessary for us.

On 4/20/16, Christo Vorster <christo.vorster@...> wrote:
Hi list



I do not necessarily agree with the idea to do away with ESpeak. I believe
that is a case of "horses for causes."



In South Africa, more specifically, at the Institute for the Blind in
Worcester where I am a lecturer, we extensively use ESpeak to read
Afrikaans. And may I say, the quality of ESpeak's Afrikaans is actually
very
good.



I won't mind if the developers do away with ESpeak, but before that happens
I want definite proof that the replacement program has, at least, the same
quality, preferably, better.



Cheers



Christo

--
nothing is difficult unless you make it appear so.

r. aravind,

Assistant manager
Department of sales
bank of baroda retail loan factory, Chennai.
mobile no: +91 9940369593, 9710945613.
email id : aravind_069@..., aravind.andhrabank@....


DOING AWAY WITH ESPEAK

Christo Vorster
 

Hi list

 

I do not necessarily agree with the idea to do away with ESpeak. I believe that is a case of "horses for causes."

 

In South Africa, more specifically, at the Institute for the Blind in Worcester where I am a lecturer, we extensively use ESpeak to read Afrikaans. And may I say, the quality of ESpeak's Afrikaans is actually very good.

 

I won't mind if the developers do away with ESpeak, but before that happens I want definite proof that the replacement program has, at least, the same quality, preferably, better.

 

Cheers

 

Christo


Re: ESPEAK

Aravind R
 

in india, eSpeak only reads most of the indian languages like tamil,
marati, telugu etc and we will struggle to read languages written in
indian languages.
so eSpeak is necessary for us.

On 4/20/16, Christo Vorster <christo.vorster@...> wrote:
Hi list



I do not necessarily agree with the idea to do away with ESpeak. I believe
that is a case of "horses for causes."



In South Africa, more specifically, at the Institute for the Blind in
Worcester where I am a lecturer, we extensively use ESpeak to read
Afrikaans. And may I say, the quality of ESpeak's Afrikaans is actually
very
good.



I won't mind if the developers do away with ESpeak, but before that happens
I want definite proof that the replacement program has, at least, the same
quality, preferably, better.



Cheers



Christo

--
nothing is difficult unless you make it appear so.

r. aravind,

Assistant manager
Department of sales
bank of baroda retail loan factory, Chennai.
mobile no: +91 9940369593, 9710945613.
email id : aravind_069@..., aravind.andhrabank@....


ESPEAK

Christo Vorster
 

Hi list

 

I do not necessarily agree with the idea to do away with ESpeak. I believe that is a case of "horses for causes."

 

In South Africa, more specifically, at the Institute for the Blind in Worcester where I am a lecturer, we extensively use ESpeak to read Afrikaans. And may I say, the quality of ESpeak's Afrikaans is actually very good.

 

I won't mind if the developers do away with ESpeak, but before that happens I want definite proof that the replacement program has, at least, the same quality, preferably, better.

 

Cheers

 

Christo


AW: AW: Question/Do You Hear a Difference with ESpeak with the new Master and Next Versions?

Eigeldinger Simon <simon.eigeldinger@...>
 

Agreed on this.


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I've not heard much change in the English side of it. I use Quincy. It
depends very much on language though as we know many from the US find Espeak
us does not sound american enough.

Its a very hard thing to pin down
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Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2016 9:56 AM
Subject: AW: [nvda] AW: Question/Do You Hear a Difference with ESpeak with
the new Master and Next Versions?


Hi,

Realy?
Seems i got used to espeak so much that i even not notice that.
I use the german language and max as the voice variant.

Greetings,
Simon


Mit freundlichen Grüßen

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An: nvda@groups.io
Betreff: Re: [nvda] AW: Question/Do You Hear a Difference with ESpeak with
the new Master and Next Versions?

hi,
yes, it does sound very different.

On 4/20/2016 8:28 AM, Eigeldinger Simon wrote:
Hi David,

I have the feeling it sounds the same as before.
Using espeak ng now on 3 computers and they seem not to have changed.



Mit freundlichen Grüßen

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An: nvda@groups.io
Betreff: [nvda] Question/Do You Hear a Difference with ESpeak with the new
Master and Next Versions?

Hello.
I noticed that ESpeak has a more harsher sound to it with the latest
next and master versions, compared to 2016.1 and earlier releases. I
have filed a ticket about this and it seems like some people are
noticing it on some machines while others are not. I suppose I can get
used to it but I find it just so much harsher and am wondering what
others who are running these versions perceive?







Re: AW: AW: Question/Do You Hear a Difference with ESpeak with the new Master and Next Versions?

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On 20. travnja 2016. 10:56:21 "Eigeldinger Simon" <simon.eigeldinger@...> wrote:

Hi,

Realy?
Seems i got used to espeak so much that i even not notice that.
I use the german language and max as the voice variant.

Greetings,
Simon


Mit freundlichen Grüßen

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An: nvda@groups.io
Betreff: Re: [nvda] AW: Question/Do You Hear a Difference with ESpeak with the new Master and Next Versions?

hi,
yes, it does sound very different.

On 4/20/2016 8:28 AM, Eigeldinger Simon wrote:
Hi David,

I have the feeling it sounds the same as before.
Using espeak ng now on 3 computers and they seem not to have changed.



Mit freundlichen Grüßen

Simon Eigeldinger
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Nebengebäude 2, OG1
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An: nvda@groups.io
Betreff: [nvda] Question/Do You Hear a Difference with ESpeak with the new Master and Next Versions?

Hello.
I noticed that ESpeak has a more harsher sound to it with the latest
next and master versions, compared to 2016.1 and earlier releases. I
have filed a ticket about this and it seems like some people are
noticing it on some machines while others are not. I suppose I can get
used to it but I find it just so much harsher and am wondering what
others who are running these versions perceive?











Re: AW: Question/Do You Hear a Difference with ESpeak with the new Master and Next Versions?

Brian's Mail list account BY <bglists@...>
 

I've not heard much change in the English side of it. I use Quincy. It depends very much on language though as we know many from the US find Espeak us does not sound american enough.

Its a very hard thing to pin down
Brian

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From: "Eigeldinger Simon" <simon.eigeldinger@...>
To: <nvda@groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2016 9:56 AM
Subject: AW: [nvda] AW: Question/Do You Hear a Difference with ESpeak with the new Master and Next Versions?


Hi,

Realy?
Seems i got used to espeak so much that i even not notice that.
I use the german language and max as the voice variant.

Greetings,
Simon


Mit freundlichen Grüßen

Simon Eigeldinger
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Nebengebäude 2, OG1
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Gesendet: Mittwoch, 20. April 2016 10:40
An: nvda@groups.io
Betreff: Re: [nvda] AW: Question/Do You Hear a Difference with ESpeak with the new Master and Next Versions?

hi,
yes, it does sound very different.

On 4/20/2016 8:28 AM, Eigeldinger Simon wrote:
Hi David,

I have the feeling it sounds the same as before.
Using espeak ng now on 3 computers and they seem not to have changed.



Mit freundlichen Grüßen

Simon Eigeldinger
Sekretariat Nebengebäude 2
Nebengebäude 2, OG1
-------------------------
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Von: David Goldfield [mailto:david.goldfield@...]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 20. April 2016 01:32
An: nvda@groups.io
Betreff: [nvda] Question/Do You Hear a Difference with ESpeak with the new Master and Next Versions?

Hello.
I noticed that ESpeak has a more harsher sound to it with the latest
next and master versions, compared to 2016.1 and earlier releases. I
have filed a ticket about this and it seems like some people are
noticing it on some machines while others are not. I suppose I can get
used to it but I find it just so much harsher and am wondering what
others who are running these versions perceive?







Re: voice question

Gene
 

Just because it is developed by Microsoft does not mean it is compatible with newer versions of Windows if it is too old.  I don’t know if installing a version of SAPI that is too old might damage something in new or recent versions of Windows.  But you can’t assume when you install something like that that is  like eighteen or twenty years old. 
 
Gene
 

Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2016 9:28 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] voice question
 
It's freakin' SAPI. I seriously doubt that it's going to damage windows in any way. After all, wasn't SAPI created by Microsoft?


Thanks,
Ari

> On Apr 19, 2016, at 5:15 PM, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@...> wrote:
>
> Well I have old realspeak voices, speech platform is free.
> Sapi4 stuff can still be installed so ms and lh voices will still work.
> While I wouldn't recomend it if you can get the home page reader 3.02 demo there are fully working viavoices.
> The reason I don't recomend it is that even in old xp their installers didn't always work to remove them later.
> Finally if you do have version 7 of windoweyes maybe later their version of eloquence is on the disk its a sapi4 program and its legal as far as I know.
> However, I am wary of loading older synths, and older things even the ms sapi5.1 synths as I have heard that some of the old resource kits can do bad things to the os.
> For nvda I'd actually be inclined to spend the cash for the acapella nvda voices, they are specially configured for nvda and you get access to every voice for the 1 price and that is an attraction for me that I may take up.
>
>
>
>> On 20/04/2016 9:39 a.m., Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm using the e-speak synthesizer and it's really great. Anna is the only
>> sapi 5 voice that comes with windows 7 but you can buy more voices.
>>
>> Rosemarie
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jamie Prater [mailto:jdprater@...]
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2016 1:56 PM
>> To: nvda@groups.io
>> Subject: [nvda] voice question
>>
>> Hi, is Anna the only voice you can use with nvda unless you purchase more? I
>> only have Microsoft voice Anna as my only voice option and would like
>> something a bit better.  Thanks for any help and have a blessed day. PS: I'm
>> using the latest nvda with windows 7 and am very very much a beginner and
>> know very little about nvda.  Thanks again and have a blessed day.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> .
>
>
>




Re: installation failure, still

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Did you say that it used to work?
If not then I'd be suspicious that Vista has not got the latest service pack installed.

Not having anything running Vista here, that is the best I can offer you.
Brian

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To: <nvda@groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2016 8:45 AM
Subject: [nvda] installation failure, still


Good evening/morning list. This is Marv here. First, I am running a laptop with the latest nvda file and vista home premium. I cannot get nvda to install. I keep getting a failure message in the log file. I really does not tell me very much. Any ideas on what I might try would be appreciated; thanks in advance.


Re: Anyone used Portable apps.com with NVDA?

Mr. Wong Chi Wai <cwwong.pro@...>
 

Oh really? Let me check about the setting, thanks.


Re: Anyone used Portable apps.com with NVDA?

 

aah ok, a friend of mine uses portable apps.com I may try to look at this.

On 20/04/2016 9:26 p.m., Supanut Leepaisomboon wrote:
Hi, there is a setting to turn on accessibility mode in the Portable Apps.com setting, which, after turning it on, you can select apps to install normally.


Re: Anyone used Portable apps.com with NVDA?

 

Hi, there is a setting to turn on accessibility mode in the Portable Apps.com setting, which, after turning it on, you can select apps to install normally.


Anyone used Portable apps.com with NVDA?

Mr. Wong Chi Wai <cwwong.pro@...>
 

Hi,

I have problem in selecting apps from the portable apps.com software interface.

When first launch or later, you can select some apps to download as portable but it seems it cannot be selected by pressing space bar....

Any advice? thanks.


AW: AW: Question/Do You Hear a Difference with ESpeak with the new Master and Next Versions?

Eigeldinger Simon <simon.eigeldinger@...>
 

Hi,

Realy?
Seems i got used to espeak so much that i even not notice that.
I use the german language and max as the voice variant.

Greetings,
Simon


Mit freundlichen Grüßen

Simon Eigeldinger
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Gesendet: Mittwoch, 20. April 2016 10:40
An: nvda@groups.io
Betreff: Re: [nvda] AW: Question/Do You Hear a Difference with ESpeak with the new Master and Next Versions?

hi,
yes, it does sound very different.

On 4/20/2016 8:28 AM, Eigeldinger Simon wrote:
Hi David,

I have the feeling it sounds the same as before.
Using espeak ng now on 3 computers and they seem not to have changed.



Mit freundlichen Grüßen

Simon Eigeldinger
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Nebengebäude 2, OG1
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Gesendet: Mittwoch, 20. April 2016 01:32
An: nvda@groups.io
Betreff: [nvda] Question/Do You Hear a Difference with ESpeak with the new Master and Next Versions?

Hello.
I noticed that ESpeak has a more harsher sound to it with the latest
next and master versions, compared to 2016.1 and earlier releases. I
have filed a ticket about this and it seems like some people are
noticing it on some machines while others are not. I suppose I can get
used to it but I find it just so much harsher and am wondering what
others who are running these versions perceive?







LIST UNDER EMERGENCY

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Hello Joseph, and list

 

I am one of the guilty parties and wish to apologise if my posts was out of line as far as this list is concerned. I will refrain from off topic discussions in futere.

 

Having said that, I support the suggestion of a possible sub-list to be used for off topic chats.

 

Cheers

 

Christo


Re: IMPORTANT: This list is now under emergency mode #adminnotice

Christo Vorster
 

Hello Joseph, and list

 

I am one of the guilty parties and wish to apologise if my posts was out of line as far as this list is concerned. I will refrain from off topic discussions in futere.

 

Having said that, I support the suggestion of a possible sub-list to be used for off topic chats.

 

Cheers

 

Christo

 

From: Joseph Lee [mailto:joseph.lee22590@...]
Sent: Wednesday, 20 April 2016 8:04 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] IMPORTANT: This list is now under emergency mode #AdminNotice #ModNotice

 

Dear members of the NVDA community and members of this forum:

 

First, thank you for your valuable posts for the past few days.

 

It has been brought to our attention that we’re straying way off topic from the purpose of this forum, stemming from a discussion that the moderator has intervened. A few hours later, someone started discussing a topic that didn’t fit the subject line to a point where we’ve started discussing other topics.

 

For the past few hours, Joseph Lee (the moderator/associate owner) was debating whether to declare an emergency, a first of its kind for this forum. An emergency mode means all off-topic posts are closed immediately. He says that, as the chair of the committee in charge of NVDACon preparations, he felt uneasy regarding this, seeing that this could have an impact on the reputation of NVDA, NVDACon and this forum.

 

Thus, Joseph Lee says:

 

I, Joseph Lee, seeing the current situation on the NVDA list and due to an important event that’ll take place in less than 48 hours from now, hereby declare that an emergency exists in NVDA International Users Forum. Any off-topic subjects discussed for the past few hours, shortly after the moderator’s declaration on April 18, 2016, are hereby nullified (threads closed). This emergency will be lifted once the leadership team (Nimer Jaber and Joseph Lee) determine that the conditions for emergency mode is no more.

 

Joseph speaking:

 

On mailing lists I’m a moderator of, I usually allow some off-topic posts. But what we saw for the past few hours has been something that is beyond words. Perhaps I’m feeling the stress while organizing NVDACon 2016 (which has been in the works for the past six months), perhaps I’m feeling academic stress, perhaps I’m worried too much about the reputation of this forum and what not. For the past few days, I’ve been thinking about current state of this community and what we can do to make it better, as well as to help NV Access and other members of the NVDA community have a joyful year throughout 2016 as we celebrate NVDA’s tenth anniversary. To put it bluntly, I’m very disappointed at the state of NVDA International Users Forum, and to put it nicely, we’re in the danger of alienating potential community members due to our conduct (and some people did leave our list). If this happened at another time, it would have ended with a letter; but we’re living in the eve of NVDA Users and Developers Conference 2016 (tenth Anniversary Edition), an important event that’ll serve as an important occasion for each and every one of us to unite under NVDA, its history, future potential and celebrating its features. To find an international forum conducting ourselves like this at the eve of this important event is, to me, a huge public relations disaster (and I’m not saying this lightly).

 

At this moment I’d like to kindly ask that we ask ourselves the following: how did this happen, why is this happening, and what can we do?

 

Thus, for the sake of NV Access, rest of the NVDA community, NVDACon organizers and for other users around the world, I’d like to sincerely request that we show ourselves as model users and community members throughout NVDACon days and beyond (like many of you, I’d like to see NVDACon become a successful gathering).

 

If you have any questions, commetns or concerns regarding the emergency mode, please let Nimer and I (Joseph Lee) now via email at nvda+owner@groups.io. Thank you.

 

Sincerely,

Joseph S. Lee

Moderator, NVDA International Users Forum

Translator, code contributor and community add-ons reviewer, NVDA screen reader project

Chair, NVDA Tenth Anniversary Planning Committee

 


Re: AW: Question/Do You Hear a Difference with ESpeak with the new Master and Next Versions?

enes sarıbaş
 

hi,
yes, it does sound very different.

On 4/20/2016 8:28 AM, Eigeldinger Simon wrote:
Hi David,

I have the feeling it sounds the same as before.
Using espeak ng now on 3 computers and they seem not to have changed.



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Von: David Goldfield [mailto:david.goldfield@...]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 20. April 2016 01:32
An: nvda@groups.io
Betreff: [nvda] Question/Do You Hear a Difference with ESpeak with the new Master and Next Versions?

Hello.
I noticed that ESpeak has a more harsher sound to it with the latest
next and master versions, compared to 2016.1 and earlier releases. I
have filed a ticket about this and it seems like some people are
noticing it on some machines while others are not. I suppose I can get
used to it but I find it just so much harsher and am wondering what
others who are running these versions perceive?






installation failure, still

marvin kotler
 

    Good evening/morning list.  This is Marv here.  First, I am running a laptop with the latest nvda file and vista home premium.  I cannot get nvda to install.  I keep getting a failure message in the log file.  I really does not tell me very much.  Any ideas on what I might try would be appreciated; thanks in advance.