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Re: NVDA 2016.2: Thoughts on Formatting information dialog

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Bhavya,

When you press NVDA+F twice, the dialog opens in Browse mode.  As long as you have "Automatic say all on page load" checked in the Browse mode settings screen (NVDA+control+b to jump there) then it will start reading as soon as the dialog loads, hence when it finishes reading the contents of the dialog, the focus will be at the end of the dialog.

With regard to the double announcing of "formatting", I spoke with Jamie and he confirmed this isn't the most desirable, but is actually one of those bugs that is trickier to fix than it at first seems, but he is aware of it.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 3:25 PM, Bhavya shah <bhavya.shah125@...> wrote:
Dear all,
I acknowledge this to be a potentially subjective opinion and
consequently request, but initiating a discussion about the same all
the same, in order to gather more user feedback about this feature.
In NVDA version 2016.2 RC 1, you can now press NVDA + F twice in quick
succession to be presented formatting information for the
corresponding text in the form of a navigable dialog.
The two concerns I have here, which are quite trivial, but still
somewhat necessaryare as follows:
When NVDA + F is pressed twice in quick succession -
* NVDA reads all the text of that dialog, i.e. the formatting
information, and then when the user navigates the dialog, he finds
himself at the end of the dialog, and has to up arrow instead of the
usual down arrowing to explore information.
* NVDA says 'formatting' twice, with a pause, which may result in a
momentary delay, as opposed to saying it only once to announce the
opening of the dialog.
Note: I am testing this with Microsoft Office Word 2010, and this, and
my previous observation, both are based on a Windows 8.1 system.
In case these issues are considered more or less important by other
testers than me, and if it is easy enough for developers to speedily
implement and fix, I (or others) may file a ticket for the same.
Thanks.

--
Warm Regards
Bhavya Shah
Using NVDA (Non Visual Desktop Access) free and open source screen
reader for Microsoft Windows
To download a copy of the free screen reader NVDA, please visit
http://www.nvaccess.org/
Using Google Talkback on Motorolla G second generation Lollipop 5.0.2
Reach me through the following means:
Mobile: +91 7506221750
E-mail id: bhavya.shah125@...
Skype id : bhavya.09






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Re: NVDA and Itunes 12.4.0.119

Lenron
 

yeah can say give them a brake all you like but I won't it's not like
Itunes has just now started having issues. They have just gotten
worse.

On 5/26/16, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@gmail.com> wrote:
I dono that would work, Arlene. Have you ever tried? I know that when
ITunes is installed, it puts things in the registry that correspond to the
initial folder it was installed to, so if you tried doing that by installing

to another folder, then those registry entries would fight back and forth.
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Phone: (704) 256-8010.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Arlene" <nedster66@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 10:38 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Itunes 12.4.0.119


You can instal the updated version of ITunes. But run it in a different
folder. If you find it doesn't work for you. Then go back to the old
version
after you uninstalled the new version.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris
Shook
Sent: May-25-16 5:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Itunes 12.4.0.119

I think you are right about not being able to go back once you've
upgraded, but to the best of my knoledge, you can put off the upgrade
as long as you like.








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Re: NVDA 2016.2 release candidate 1 is out, an audio tutorial on what's new in 2016.2 posted #NVAccess

Mr. Wong Chi Wai <cwwong.pro@...>
 

joseph, once again thanks for you detail demonstration.
I am not sure if I get it wrong or not, is the spelling error sound is only functioning in MS Office Word? Or it is functioning as long as office word is installed and typing else where do have the sound effect?
Thanks.
 
Joseph Lee 於 26/5/2016 12:41 寫道:

Hi everyone,

 

Yes, indeed the RC1 is out. Featuring spelling error sounds, recognition of grammar errors and more, there’s something for everyone in this update.

The post from NV access can be found at:

http://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2016-2rc1-released/

Note: This is a release candidate. If everything goes as planned, the official version will be out by next week.

Also, an audio tutorial on what’s new in NVDA 2016.2 has been posted. The direct link is:

http://www.nvda-kr.org/files/NVDA%202016.2.mp3

 

Note that this might be last What’s New tutorial (unless people say I should continue to produce these). Enjoy.

Cheers,

joseph



Re: NVDA and Itunes 12.4.0.119

Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
 

I dono that would work, Arlene. Have you ever tried? I know that when ITunes is installed, it puts things in the registry that correspond to the initial folder it was installed to, so if you tried doing that by installing to another folder, then those registry entries would fight back and forth.
---
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Training Instructor.

clgilland07@gmail.com
Phone: (704) 256-8010.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Arlene" <nedster66@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 10:38 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Itunes 12.4.0.119


You can instal the updated version of ITunes. But run it in a different
folder. If you find it doesn't work for you. Then go back to the old version
after you uninstalled the new version.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris
Shook
Sent: May-25-16 5:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Itunes 12.4.0.119

I think you are right about not being able to go back once you've
upgraded, but to the best of my knoledge, you can put off the upgrade
as long as you like.





Re: NVDA and Itunes 12.4.0.119

Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
 

You can go back. I've done it before. Just keep an old installer on hand. Once installed, tell it not to update, then set your preferences to not check again.
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Phone: (704) 256-8010.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Shook" <chris0309@samobile.net>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 8:44 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Itunes 12.4.0.119


I think you are right about not being able to go back once you've upgraded, but to the best of my knoledge, you can put off the upgrade as long as you like.


Re: NVDA and Itunes 12.4.0.119

Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
 

And that is why your library is kept in ICloud.  that way you can get it back if needed into the correct format.
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Phone: (704) 256-8010.

----- Original Message -----
From: Chris
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 6:19 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Itunes 12.4.0.119

It can be done but you will lose your library as the libarary file is not compatible with the older version of itunes
 


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 25 May 2016 22:33
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Itunes 12.4.0.119

Does it force an upgrade after a time?  I suspect that once you upgrade, you can't go back, though I don't know that.  If that is the case, I would say that upgrading should be done by those who want to try new things, not by those who want reliability and dependability.  Of course, people could upgrade on one machine and keep their main machine as it is until evaluating the upgrade. 
Gene
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 4:12 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Itunes 12.4.0.119

iTunes usually gives you an option whether to update or not.



Re: NVDA and Itunes 12.4.0.119

Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
 

No, it doesn't forcve you.  If you have an old installer, you always can go back.  Well, I don't have an old installer.  Well, that's kind a not exactly my problem.  That's why you back those things up.
---
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Training Instructor.
 
clgilland07@...
Phone: (704) 256-8010.

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 5:33 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Itunes 12.4.0.119

Does it force an upgrade after a time?  I suspect that once you upgrade, you can't go back, though I don't know that.  If that is the case, I would say that upgrading should be done by those who want to try new things, not by those who want reliability and dependability.  Of course, people could upgrade on one machine and keep their main machine as it is until evaluating the upgrade. 
Gene
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 4:12 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Itunes 12.4.0.119

iTunes usually gives you an option whether to update or not.



Re: NVDA and Itunes 12.4.0.119

Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
 

It does, yes, but you even can go so far as to turn checking of updates off altogether. See my last post to the list.
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Training Instructor.

clgilland07@gmail.com
Phone: (704) 256-8010.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Shook" <chris0309@samobile.net>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 5:12 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Itunes 12.4.0.119


iTunes usually gives you an option whether to update or not.


Re: NVDA and Itunes 12.4.0.119

Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
 

Yes, you can tell ITunes not to auto update.  Hit ctrl+comma while in the app to open the preferences.  I'm pretty sure the option you want is either on the general, or the Advanced tab.  I'm thinking the ladder.
---
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JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.
 
clgilland07@...
Phone: (704) 256-8010.

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 2:58 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Itunes 12.4.0.119

I'm not sure if that's true.  I've seen references to third party utilities that allow you to transfer material without using ITunes.  I don't know what their limitations may be but some people may know about them and about their accessibility.  Also, canyou cause ITunes not to upgrade automatically?  If so, it would probably be a good idea to wait when a new update comes out to see what people have to say about it.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Chris
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 12:20 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Itunes 12.4.0.119

Yeah that's all very well but if you want to transfer your own music for
example onto your apple device you don't have much of a choice but to use
itunes
So what do those people do?
 

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: 25 May 2016 18:06
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Itunes 12.4.0.119

Probably me. I just said, ITunes is not for everybody! Yes, you can use it
if you like the challenge and can manage it!  Then use it. If you cant
manage it and find you can't use it in your windows box. Then just uninstall
it and be done with it.  You can say to the list it just didn't work for me
but if it works for you. All the world to you!  

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris
Shook
Sent: May-24-16 10:21 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Itunes 12.4.0.119

Which message are you responding to?









Re: NVDA and Itunes 12.4.0.119

Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
 

There's a program back in the days I used called Anapod Explorer, that worked on Windows, but that was like, 2004 when I used it, so, for all I know, that thing might be, and probably is, long! long since dead.
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Training Instructor.

clgilland07@gmail.com
Phone: (704) 256-8010.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lino Morales" <linomorales001@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 1:48 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Itunes 12.4.0.119


I'm sure it can be done. Now there is a program fro Windows called iDevice Manager. I don't know how well it works with JAWS or NVDA or WINEyes. I'm sure Aple is on it as far as iTunes. As my wife likes to say quit your bitchen! Sheesh.


On 5/25/2016 1:20 PM, Chris wrote:
Yeah that's all very well but if you want to transfer your own music for
example onto your apple device you don't have much of a choice but to use
itunes
So what do those people do?

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: 25 May 2016 18:06
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Itunes 12.4.0.119

Probably me. I just said, ITunes is not for everybody! Yes, you can use it
if you like the challenge and can manage it! Then use it. If you cant
manage it and find you can't use it in your windows box. Then just uninstall
it and be done with it. You can say to the list it just didn't work for me
but if it works for you. All the world to you!

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris
Shook
Sent: May-24-16 10:21 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Itunes 12.4.0.119

Which message are you responding to?









NVDA 2016.2: Thoughts on Formatting information dialog

Bhavya shah
 

Dear all,
I acknowledge this to be a potentially subjective opinion and
consequently request, but initiating a discussion about the same all
the same, in order to gather more user feedback about this feature.
In NVDA version 2016.2 RC 1, you can now press NVDA + F twice in quick
succession to be presented formatting information for the
corresponding text in the form of a navigable dialog.
The two concerns I have here, which are quite trivial, but still
somewhat necessaryare as follows:
When NVDA + F is pressed twice in quick succession -
* NVDA reads all the text of that dialog, i.e. the formatting
information, and then when the user navigates the dialog, he finds
himself at the end of the dialog, and has to up arrow instead of the
usual down arrowing to explore information.
* NVDA says 'formatting' twice, with a pause, which may result in a
momentary delay, as opposed to saying it only once to announce the
opening of the dialog.
Note: I am testing this with Microsoft Office Word 2010, and this, and
my previous observation, both are based on a Windows 8.1 system.
In case these issues are considered more or less important by other
testers than me, and if it is easy enough for developers to speedily
implement and fix, I (or others) may file a ticket for the same.
Thanks.

--
Warm Regards
Bhavya Shah
Using NVDA (Non Visual Desktop Access) free and open source screen
reader for Microsoft Windows
To download a copy of the free screen reader NVDA, please visit
http://www.nvaccess.org/
Using Google Talkback on Motorolla G second generation Lollipop 5.0.2
Reach me through the following means:
Mobile: +91 7506221750
E-mail id: bhavya.shah125@gmail.com
Skype id : bhavya.09


Re: NVDA and Itunes 12.4.0.119

Stephen
 

and who could forget the time when apple wouldn't allow that game for i-devices in their app store because it didn't have enough on-screen content.

At 07:51 PM 5/25/2016, you wrote:
No, I won't give them a break.  the only message from Apple sent to the list is a stock general message they send for lots of inquiries.  It's obvious.  The name of the program is never mentioned and it is a general message.  Did you get a different one?  They may be working on the problem but how quickly and seriously?  Was this message sent out because they actually are or is it sent out by a staff member who deals with complaints as a standard response? 
 
If you want to defend Apple, that's your right.  But why?  It's glaringly obvious that if Apple had given proper attention to accessibility, these obvious problems would have been solved long before this version reached release.  I won't give them a break.  I've seen complaints about accessibility in ITunes when new releases have come out before.  Apple claims to take accessibility seriously.  That means checking products during development, not after people report obvious problems after release. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Christopher-Mark Gilland
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 11:01 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Itunes 12.4.0.119

Guys, give them a break for Christ sake!  They said they were working on it,
did they not?

If you don't believe them, then, ok, fine, whatever, but you don't have to
publicly rub it in their faces!  That's incredibly disrespectful!
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JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.

clgilland07@...
Phone: (704) 256-8010.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stephen" < whocrazy@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 11:50 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Itunes 12.4.0.119


> Sounds like a classic autoresponse script to me.
> At 12:22 AM 5/25/2016, you wrote:
>>Hi all,
>>I received an email from apple. I am going to post it below this message.
>>Thanks to Christopher for posting the email address for Apple
>>accessibility.
>>Chris
>>
>>Subject:
>>Re: newest version of iTunes.; Follow-up: 641443370
>>Hello,
>>Thank you for your email. We appreciate the feedback and wanted to let you
>>know that Apple is currently investigating this issue. We cannot comment
>>on when it may be resolved.
>>Apple Accessibility
>>
>>
>
>
>
>



NVDA 2016.2: Unable to find 'Play sound for spelling errors while typing' option

Bhavya shah
 

Dear all,
As noted in the What's New document of NVDA version 2016.2 RC 1, there
has been introduced an auditory indication for spelling errors in edit
controls.
However, I am not only unable to experience this functionality by
typing nonsensical pieces of characters as words in Firefox edit
fields and a Word document, but also am unable to locate the
corresponding option named 'Play sound for spelling errors while
typing' which supposedly should have been in NVDA's Keyboard Settings
dialog, though I did skim through several other NVDA Preferences
dialogs for the same too without success.
Please reply and let me know if others can confirm this or not, in
which case I (or others) may file a ticket for the same.

--
Warm Regards
Bhavya Shah
Using NVDA (Non Visual Desktop Access) free and open source screen
reader for Microsoft Windows
To download a copy of the free screen reader NVDA, please visit
http://www.nvaccess.org/
Using Google Talkback on Motorolla G second generation Lollipop 5.0.2
Reach me through the following means:
Mobile: +91 7506221750
E-mail id: bhavya.shah125@gmail.com
Skype id : bhavya.09


Re: looking for pls or m3u file of a radio station stream

Pete <emac00@...>
 

 

  The shout cast site used to be a good source, not sure if still up. 

On 5/25/2016 4:16 PM, Gene wrote:
Most stations these days broadcast in Flash and/or HtML5.  Saving such links won't direct you to the actual underlying stream.  There is an underlying stream but the listen links on most station web sites direct you to the flash or HTMl5 stream, or they are links that open your browser and cause it to follow scripts to the Flash content.  Sometimes, right clicking and saving links won't work at all because the site doesn't support saving such links. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 3:09 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] looking for pls or m3u file of a radio station stream

Very often, you can just do a right click on the listen link and then
choose save link as and 9 times out of 10 it will save a .pls or .m3u
file for you. The file may not be labeled correctly and may just say
listen.pls or something like that. Just rename it and save it where
you'll know where it is and you're good to go.

Roger








On 5/25/2016 12:05 PM, Bobby wrote:
> I am having issues locating pls files or m3us.  I listen to lots of
> internet radio stations butt I don't like going to the web sites all
> of the time.  I was if you know of a good progran that will capture a
> pls or m3u because finding the listen live link can be very hard.  If
> you know of a program please let me know.
>
>
>
>
> .
>





NVDA 2016.2 release candidate 1 is out, an audio tutorial on what's new in 2016.2 posted #NVAccess

 

Hi everyone,

 

Yes, indeed the RC1 is out. Featuring spelling error sounds, recognition of grammar errors and more, there’s something for everyone in this update.

The post from NV access can be found at:

http://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2016-2rc1-released/

Note: This is a release candidate. If everything goes as planned, the official version will be out by next week.

Also, an audio tutorial on what’s new in NVDA 2016.2 has been posted. The direct link is:

http://www.nvda-kr.org/files/NVDA%202016.2.mp3

 

Note that this might be last What’s New tutorial (unless people say I should continue to produce these). Enjoy.

Cheers,

joseph


Re: making a suggestion for nvda

Pete <emac00@...>
 

 

  If you want to keep the settings open a list of tabs like firefox has for it's options might be an idea. 


On 5/25/2016 2:34 PM, Gene wrote:
If this is going to be done, probably the best way would be to have an apply button or something similar.  In other words, for example, after you made changes in the voice settings dialog, you could press apply and be returned to the preferences menu again.  You would be returned to the menu you entered a dialog from.  Then you could open another dialog and change more settings.  This would be slightly easier than opening the NVDA menu again but I'm not sure if it would actually make the interface more confusing for inexperienced users.  It may just be easier to tell people to make changes in one dialog, press ok, then open the menu again with NVDA key n.  We'll see what others have to say. 
 
Gene

Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] making a suggestion for nvda

Hello.
Ok, i will bring it up here to make sure it is something that not just
me would like to see, and maybe there is a way and i just need to
expand my mind with the knowledge of how to do this.  smile.

You know how in settings when clicking ok when done with a section of
settings, the whole settings panel goes away?  Well, it'd be nice to
somehow put things in like a list, sort of like programs like
thunderbird, or at least so one does not have to exit settings just to
have to go back into settings with nvda n to change more settings.
Yes, i know you could probably change things with keyboard shortcuts,
however, I do not know all the shortcuts to do this yet for all the
possible things you could set.  So i'm just thinking it might be easier
for new people, and me alike.lol or people like me who might get
confused easily when first encountering a new program.

Thank you

Scott
Original message:
> Hi Scott,

> The official place for filing requests and bugs is our little corner of
> GitHub: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues
> <https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues>

> Ideally also search to see if the issue has already been filed.

> If you'd like some feedback on the idea first then absolutely raise it
> here and we can have a conversation about it and get it filed.

> I can and do file issues myself, although the advantage in you filing
> it is that if more information is needed or clarification on something,
> it's easy to ask.

> Kind regards

> Quentin.

> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 12:29 PM, Scott VanDeWalle
> <scottvandewalle2@... <mailto:scottvandewalle2@...>> wrote:


> Hello, i'd like to know how to make a suggestion that I feel is a good
> idea for a future release.
> I don't know enough programming stuff to know how easy or not this
> would be, but still I think it is a wonderful idea.
> Thank you

> Scott





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Re: NVDA 2016.2

Andre Fisher
 

NVDA 2016.2rc1 was just released. Check out
http://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2016-2rc1-released/
for more information and download. This might mean that the official
release will come out in about a week or so.

On 5/25/16, Chris Shook <chris0309@samobile.net> wrote:
Joseph,
Thanks for the info.
Chris




Re: Moving over to/focusing on web-page contents after having loaded a page in google chrome

Kenny Dog <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi Jacob


My version of google has updated I think it is now 50 what you are saying is happening even when you go to do a search, it seems to go into a loop and will not focus on the content of the page. it looks as though this version is broken and even with a stable and master snapshot.


Gene nz



On 26/05/2016 12:24 PM, Jacob Kruger wrote:
The problem is that I will, for example, open a new tab, or focus on address entry field, type in an address, and hit enter, and while window title tells me page has finished loading,tabbing around, using combinations of F6, shift+F6, etc. etc. don't ever focus on page's actual contents.
 
At times, however, focus will automatically have switched over to page contents, and, if I load a page from a bookmark, it also seems to do that pretty much every time.
 
Like said, biggest issue is inconsistency - as in, want to search for something, and would, honestly be quicker to just type in address for google.com rather than look for it in bookmarks, or else, I copy an address from an e-mail, or text file, and want to jut paste it into the address bar, but, then can't seem to get it to focus on the page contents.
 
This is on a windows 10 64 bit machine, using NVDA 2016.1, but, not sure either of those are relevant.
 
Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, acceptance is versatile"
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: 26 May, 2016 2:00 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Moving over to/focusing on web-page contents after having loaded a page in google chrome

I'm not sure what you are describing.  When I use Chrome, which I don't use for regular browsing, Often all I see is the title bar with the name of the web page.  I may be able to get the page to display by opening and then closing a new tab.  I may have to completely reload the page.  I'm not sure if that is the problem you are describing.  I don't know how many people have this problem.  But I do and it is one reason I wouldn't consider using Chrome as my main browser. 
 
Other reasons are how many things display as a web page.  It is far more convenient to have such things display as lists or dialogs.  Even Firefox, which has made things in the options dialog function like a web page, still has the items organized as lists you can arrow down. 
Also, it appears to me that lots of menu items don't have shortcuts as has been standard in Windows programs for years.  I haven't found a short cut combination for something as important as book marks.  And I've seen other menu items with no short cuts.  This sort of thing after all these years of Google working on making chrome accessible are singularly unimpressive.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
GeneFrom: Jacob Kruger
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 6:46 PM
Subject: [nvda] Moving over to/focusing on web-page contents after having loaded a page in google chrome

While in things like IE, and firefox, you could generally jump to/focus on actual webpage content using something like tab, or shift + tab keystrokes, or else ctrl + F6, it seems like chrome is somewhat inconsistent in that after I type a URL into it's address bar, at times, I can't too easily get NVDA to then actually switch over to interacting with the actual web page contents?
 
Is there some standard method/means to get this to happen that I'm missing, due to being too used to other browsers?
 
Ask since am sort of considering switching over to chrome as my primary web-browser, but, if this inconsistency carries on, then it's a no-go, since it's quite irritating...LOL!
 
TIA

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, acceptance is versatile"

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Re: can anyone get English out of this file?

 

I'm glad it wasn't just me trying to figure this one out. Sighted folks,
of course, just saw English. Adobe didn't like the .pdf. Who knows why?

On 5/25/2016 7:36 PM, Norman wrote:
Hi.

I ran it through kurzweil and here is a link to the results.

https://files.emypeople.net/index.php/s/NvhTJ3jpRzE6Gmf/download

If you're wondering about the different url the server that the file
is shared from is my employers owncloud server.

Looks like fairly standard english to me.

However, adobe reader did the same as everyone else for me, couldn't
make heads or tails of it.


HTH.



On 5/25/2016 6:19 PM, Peter Beasley wrote:
I certainly can't.

-----Original Message----- From: Governor staten
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 9:55 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] can anyone get English out of this file?

I'll put a link to the file. When I open it, for some reason, all I see
is symbols, nothing resembling English. Can anyone help me troubleshoot
this one? I'm using Adobe Acrobat DC. I tried to open it in Balabolka,
and I saw the symbols again. If I"m missing something really obvious,
let me know that too. Also, nothing like this has ever happened with
files from this same author before.


The link is below:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3787427/Essene%20Definition.pdf









Re: NVDA and Itunes 12.4.0.119

Arlene
 

You can instal the updated version of ITunes. But run it in a different
folder. If you find it doesn't work for you. Then go back to the old version
after you uninstalled the new version.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris
Shook
Sent: May-25-16 5:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Itunes 12.4.0.119

I think you are right about not being able to go back once you've
upgraded, but to the best of my knoledge, you can put off the upgrade
as long as you like.