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Re: Mystery surrounding computer

Chris Mullins
 

Have you tried:

 

Checking device manager to see if (A) the machine thinks the keyboard is working properly and (B) there are no updates available for the keybord driver.

 

In addition, have you switched on the “speak command keys” (NVDA+4 to see what is voiced when using alt+? Type keypresses.

 

Cheers

Chris

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of marvin kotler
Sent: 18 September 2016 14:33
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Mystery surrounding computer

 

Good morning list; Marv here.  Someone asked me a question regarding an external keyboard.  When I plugged one into the laptop, the alt keys worked.  Do not know what to try next on the laptops keyboard.  The computer is an hp pavilion g6 notebook pc.  Anymore advice would be appreciated.  As stated previously, the alt keys on the laptops keyboard do not work properly.

 


Mildly-OT-not-really: Stascom utility software

Jacob Kruger
 

A Connection that some of you might know, from the NVDA add-on mailing list, Jacques Stassen, has created a piece of utility software for help with regards to certain aspects of later versions of the windows operating system, initially focusing on maintaining volume levels, avoiding muting of audio output, etc., and we have now made a plan to offer download links for the documentation, and the software package itself - and, there are also a couple of ways to contact the developer via either a contact form on the webpage, or via a link in the documentation - see below the list of features/details:

• Supported operating systems: Windows 7 and Windows 10, both 32 and 64 bit.
• Constant monitoring of default sound card mute status, disabling mute as to prevent sound loss.
• Monitoring default sound card master output volume level as to not fall lower than 20 percent.
• Ability to set day / night volume levels, output volume levels and time of day / night configurable.
• Hotkey to display name of sound device, master volume output, name of recording device and input level, quick access button to mixer settings.
• Hotkeys to increase and decrease master output volume levels, ascending and descending audio tones to indicate new level.
• Announcement of time on the hour, all 24 hours configurable.
• Password generator, generating unique password with each keystroke.
• Word count feature to determine amount of words when text is selected in any edit field.
• Hotkeys to empty trash, switch between favourite, unread or all folders, and switch profiles in Mozilla Thunderbird e-mail client.
• Hotkey to generate summary of all program settings.
• Ability to enable or disable all automated functions.
• Once installed, press control+Windows+F1 to open help documentation for description of all features.

http://www.blindza.co.za/stascom/index.php

And, like I stated/mentioned on that webpage, I have been running this on a couple of machines for a little while now, and have been providing some forms of feedback to the developer as well, but, it's definitely worth installing as far as I'm concerned.


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."


Re: Mystery surrounding computer

Chris
 

Hey stay cool I wasnt being literal

 

 

 

 

 

From: Gene
Sent: 18 September 2016 16:56
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Mystery surrounding computer

 

this is evidently a new computer.  it's very unlikely.  In addition, incorrect cleaning of a laptop keyboard my void the warranty or in some way make the machine not possible to return.  I either wouldn't do any such thing or I would be very careful in what I decided to do.  And if another key were stuck down, you would expect far more problems than just the alt keys not working.  

 

From: Chris

Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2016 10:32 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Mystery surrounding computer

 

You not got another key stuck down by any chance ?

Give your keyboard a good scrub and polish its a long shot but it may work

 

Good luck

 

 

 

 

From: marvin kotler
Sent: 18 September 2016 14:33
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Mystery surrounding computer

 

Good morning list; Marv here.  Someone asked me a question regarding an external keyboard.  When I plugged one into the laptop, the alt keys worked.  Do not know what to try next on the laptops keyboard.  The computer is an hp pavilion g6 notebook pc.  Anymore advice would be appreciated.  As stated previously, the alt keys on the laptops keyboard do not work properly.

 

 

 


Re: Mystery surrounding computer

Gene
 

this is evidently a new computer.  it's very unlikely.  In addition, incorrect cleaning of a laptop keyboard my void the warranty or in some way make the machine not possible to return.  I either wouldn't do any such thing or I would be very careful in what I decided to do.  And if another key were stuck down, you would expect far more problems than just the alt keys not working.  

From: Chris
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2016 10:32 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Mystery surrounding computer

You not got another key stuck down by any chance ?

Give your keyboard a good scrub and polish its a long shot but it may work

 

Good luck

 

 

 

 

From: marvin kotler
Sent: 18 September 2016 14:33
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Mystery surrounding computer

 

Good morning list; Marv here.  Someone asked me a question regarding an external keyboard.  When I plugged one into the laptop, the alt keys worked.  Do not know what to try next on the laptops keyboard.  The computer is an hp pavilion g6 notebook pc.  Anymore advice would be appreciated.  As stated previously, the alt keys on the laptops keyboard do not work properly.

 

 


Re: VLC alternative?

Salva Doménech Miguel <kibayasd@...>
 

Hi.
Yep, I also adore Winamp, but for playing videos is not the best alternative.

Cheers.

 

De: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] En nombre de Michael Capelle
Enviado el: domingo, 18 de septiembre de 2016 16:48
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Asunto: Re: [nvda] VLC alternative?

 

i love winamp, even though it is not being developed anymore, it sitill works.

 

Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2016 9:44 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] VLC alternative?

 

Foobar2000 works amazingly.

 

Devin Pratersent from Gmail.

 

On Sun, Sep 18, 2016 at 9:41 AM, erik burggraaf <erik@...> wrote:

VLC must have fallen a long way since I used it many years ago. back then I found it perfectly accessible.   the main issue that I have with Windows media players in general is that they tend to be fraught with advertising.  this is the reason why I abandoned Winamp for VLC and then abandoned VLC for the kmplayer and then abandoned playing media on Windows all together...  I never tried it myself  but I believe foobar2000 is also accessible.  The very latest one I tried was the gone mad music player. this was billed as the very latest ad free thing in music for Windows. unfortunately it's accessibility left much to be desired.

Best,

Erik

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On September 18, 2016 10:16:49 AM "Robert Kingett" <kingettspeaks@...> wrote:

I am looking for an NVDA accessible player that can basically play as many file types as VLC as well as podcasts and internet radio. There are a lot of inaccessible elements about VLC so does anyone have an alternative?   

 

 


Re: NVDA Vocalizer lag and Windows 10 lock screen

 

Over time I have found it more and more difficult to predict exactly how processes are actually going to load and begin working under Windows.  So many factors are involved other than start-up order that this means very little anymore.

I think Chris is likely on to something in that NVDA is probably not becoming fully active until after the lock screen has been fully active for some time due to when it finally completes its startup process in the sequence of the full system startup.
--
Brian

I worry a lot. . . I worry that no matter how cynical you become it's never enough to keep up.

         ~ Trudy, in Jane Wagner's "Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe"

    



Re: NVDA Vocalizer lag and Windows 10 lock screen

Chris
 

It may well be that windows is still loading causing the lag if its working ok otherwise

 

 

 

 

From: Supanut Leepaisomboon
Sent: 18 September 2016 12:02
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA Vocalizer lag and Windows 10 lock screen

 

Hi list,

When I use Vocalizer for NVDA, it always seem to lag when I first turn on my laptop. The voice I'm using is a premium high varient, so not sure if that is the cause; my laptop is pretty powerful with Intel Core I5 at 2.5GHZ, 8GB RAM.

Also, when I powered on my laptop, NVDA won't always announce the Windows logon prompt like it does in Windows 8.

Has anyone experienced the issues I mentioned?

 


Re: Mystery surrounding computer

 

Jacob's assessment is spot-on and would be my first avenue of investigation.

Marv, if I may ask a kindness from you, please stop splitting threads.  This all should have remained under the original "Question regarding computer" thread.  Every time a subject is changed a new thread is created and it becomes impossible for those of us who use the web interface to follow a single problem/issue/question/discussion from its start to its finish because it is fragmented.   A change of subject should occur if and only if a tangent occurs that would warrant one, and those don't occur often.  Clarifications should be answered on the thread on which they were requested.  This is but one example of where keeping related information together is important.
--
Brian

I worry a lot. . . I worry that no matter how cynical you become it's never enough to keep up.

         ~ Trudy, in Jane Wagner's "Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe"

    



Re: Mystery surrounding computer

Chris
 

You not got another key stuck down by any chance ?

Give your keyboard a good scrub and polish its a long shot but it may work

 

Good luck

 

 

 

 

From: marvin kotler
Sent: 18 September 2016 14:33
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Mystery surrounding computer

 

Good morning list; Marv here.  Someone asked me a question regarding an external keyboard.  When I plugged one into the laptop, the alt keys worked.  Do not know what to try next on the laptops keyboard.  The computer is an hp pavilion g6 notebook pc.  Anymore advice would be appreciated.  As stated previously, the alt keys on the laptops keyboard do not work properly.

 

 


Re: VLC alternative?

Gene
 

I've used Winamp for more than fifteen years and had no problem with advertising.  I don't know how you used it so there may be some uses that you see advertising.  But for playing files, there is none.  I see no reason to assume that VLC Player has declined.  All we know is that one person asked for alternatives.  If that person knew certain commands, such a request might not be made.
 
My impression, though I haven't looked into this and it's just an impression, is that players of the type being discussed are not intended to play a lot of Internet Radio.  for that, you would probably be much better off using something like Tapin Radio or with your browser, something like Tunein. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2016 9:41 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] VLC alternative?

VLC must have fallen a long way since I used it many years ago. back then I found it perfectly accessible.   the main issue that I have with Windows media players in general is that they tend to be fraught with advertising.  this is the reason why I abandoned Winamp for VLC and then abandoned VLC for the kmplayer and then abandoned playing media on Windows all together...  I never tried it myself  but I believe foobar2000 is also accessible.  The very latest one I tried was the gone mad music player. this was billed as the very latest ad free thing in music for Windows. unfortunately it's accessibility left much to be desired.

Best,

Erik

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On September 18, 2016 10:16:49 AM "Robert Kingett" <kingettspeaks@...> wrote:

I am looking for an NVDA accessible player that can basically play as many file types as VLC as well as podcasts and internet radio. There are a lot of inaccessible elements about VLC so does anyone have an alternative?    



Re: VLC alternative?

Michael Capelle <mcapelle@...>
 

winamp will paly audio file, grab it at ninite.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "mk360" <mk.seventhson@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2016 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] VLC alternative?


Yea, foobar2000 is great. but it play video files? as I understand it is
an audio player.

Regards,
mk.

El 18/09/2016 a las 11:44, Devin Prater escribió:
Foobar2000 works amazingly.

Devin Pratersent from Gmail.

On Sun, Sep 18, 2016 at 9:41 AM, erik burggraaf
<erik@erik-burggraaf.com <mailto:erik@erik-burggraaf.com>> wrote:

VLC must have fallen a long way since I used it many years ago.
back then I found it perfectly accessible. the main issue that I
have with Windows media players in general is that they tend to be
fraught with advertising. this is the reason why I abandoned
Winamp for VLC and then abandoned VLC for the kmplayer and then
abandoned playing media on Windows all together... I never tried
it myself but I believe foobar2000 is also accessible. The very
latest one I tried was the gone mad music player. this was billed
as the very latest ad free thing in music for Windows.
unfortunately it's accessibility left much to be desired.

Best,

Erik

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http://www.aqua-mail.com

On September 18, 2016 10:16:49 AM "Robert Kingett"
<kingettspeaks@gmail.com <mailto:kingettspeaks@gmail.com>> wrote:

I am looking for an NVDA accessible player that can basically
play as many file types as VLC as well as podcasts and internet
radio. There are a lot of inaccessible elements about VLC so does
anyone have an alternative?


Re: VLC alternative?

mk360
 

Yea, foobar2000 is great. but it play video files? as I understand it is an audio player.

Regards,
mk.

El 18/09/2016 a las 11:44, Devin Prater escribió:
Foobar2000 works amazingly.

Devin Pratersent from Gmail.

On Sun, Sep 18, 2016 at 9:41 AM, erik burggraaf <erik@...> wrote:

VLC must have fallen a long way since I used it many years ago. back then I found it perfectly accessible.   the main issue that I have with Windows media players in general is that they tend to be fraught with advertising.  this is the reason why I abandoned Winamp for VLC and then abandoned VLC for the kmplayer and then abandoned playing media on Windows all together...  I never tried it myself  but I believe foobar2000 is also accessible.  The very latest one I tried was the gone mad music player. this was billed as the very latest ad free thing in music for Windows. unfortunately it's accessibility left much to be desired.

Best,

Erik

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http://www.aqua-mail.com

On September 18, 2016 10:16:49 AM "Robert Kingett" <kingettspeaks@...> wrote:

I am looking for an NVDA accessible player that can basically play as many file types as VLC as well as podcasts and internet radio. There are a lot of inaccessible elements about VLC so does anyone have an alternative?    





Re: VLC alternative?

mk360
 

VLC with advertising? where? obviously on the download page, but VLC doesn't have advertising in the program it self and the setup installer is clean.

Regards,
mk.

El 18/09/2016 a las 11:41, erik burggraaf escribió:

VLC must have fallen a long way since I used it many years ago. back then I found it perfectly accessible.   the main issue that I have with Windows media players in general is that they tend to be fraught with advertising.  this is the reason why I abandoned Winamp for VLC and then abandoned VLC for the kmplayer and then abandoned playing media on Windows all together...  I never tried it myself  but I believe foobar2000 is also accessible.  The very latest one I tried was the gone mad music player. this was billed as the very latest ad free thing in music for Windows. unfortunately it's accessibility left much to be desired.

Best,

Erik

Sent with AquaMail for Android
http://www.aqua-mail.com

On September 18, 2016 10:16:49 AM "Robert Kingett" <kingettspeaks@...> wrote:

I am looking for an NVDA accessible player that can basically play as many file types as VLC as well as podcasts and internet radio. There are a lot of inaccessible elements about VLC so does anyone have an alternative?    




Re: Mystery surrounding computer

Jacob Kruger
 

Chances are then that it's a hardware, or BIOS setting issue with the laptop's own physical keyboard - not sure what BIOS settings could be relevant, but, you might need to get a sighted tech to check that out for you.


And, FWIW, the reason I mentioned the physical keyboard in the first place is that, with all my laptops, I still just use external USB keyboards, since trying to work with a more compact, lapto keyboard, with, or without a numeric keypad would slow me down too much...<smile>


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2016-09-18 3:33 PM, marvin kotler wrote:

Good morning list; Marv here.  Someone asked me a question regarding an external keyboard.  When I plugged one into the laptop, the alt keys worked.  Do not know what to try next on the laptops keyboard.  The computer is an hp pavilion g6 notebook pc.  Anymore advice would be appreciated.  As stated previously, the alt keys on the laptops keyboard do not work properly.
 


Re: VLC alternative?

Michael Capelle <mcapelle@...>
 

i love winamp, even though it is not being developed anymore, it sitill works.
 

Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2016 9:44 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] VLC alternative?
 
Foobar2000 works amazingly.
 
Devin Pratersent from Gmail.
 
On Sun, Sep 18, 2016 at 9:41 AM, erik burggraaf <erik@...> wrote:

VLC must have fallen a long way since I used it many years ago. back then I found it perfectly accessible.   the main issue that I have with Windows media players in general is that they tend to be fraught with advertising.  this is the reason why I abandoned Winamp for VLC and then abandoned VLC for the kmplayer and then abandoned playing media on Windows all together...  I never tried it myself  but I believe foobar2000 is also accessible.  The very latest one I tried was the gone mad music player. this was billed as the very latest ad free thing in music for Windows. unfortunately it's accessibility left much to be desired.

Best,

Erik

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On September 18, 2016 10:16:49 AM "Robert Kingett" <kingettspeaks@...> wrote:

I am looking for an NVDA accessible player that can basically play as many file types as VLC as well as podcasts and internet radio. There are a lot of inaccessible elements about VLC so does anyone have an alternative?   

 

 


Re: VLC alternative?

Devin Prater
 

Foobar2000 works amazingly.

Devin Pratersent from Gmail.

On Sun, Sep 18, 2016 at 9:41 AM, erik burggraaf <erik@...> wrote:

VLC must have fallen a long way since I used it many years ago. back then I found it perfectly accessible.   the main issue that I have with Windows media players in general is that they tend to be fraught with advertising.  this is the reason why I abandoned Winamp for VLC and then abandoned VLC for the kmplayer and then abandoned playing media on Windows all together...  I never tried it myself  but I believe foobar2000 is also accessible.  The very latest one I tried was the gone mad music player. this was billed as the very latest ad free thing in music for Windows. unfortunately it's accessibility left much to be desired.

Best,

Erik

Sent with AquaMail for Android
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On September 18, 2016 10:16:49 AM "Robert Kingett" <kingettspeaks@...> wrote:

I am looking for an NVDA accessible player that can basically play as many file types as VLC as well as podcasts and internet radio. There are a lot of inaccessible elements about VLC so does anyone have an alternative?    




Re: VLC alternative?

Michel Such
 

Hi,


Mediaplayer classic home cinema (mpc-hc) is fully accessible and relatively easy to configure.


                    Michel SUCH

michel.such@...
Skype : michel.such
Twitter : @SuchMichel
Le 2016-09-18 à 16:41, erik burggraaf a écrit :

VLC must have fallen a long way since I used it many years ago. back then I found it perfectly accessible.   the main issue that I have with Windows media players in general is that they tend to be fraught with advertising.  this is the reason why I abandoned Winamp for VLC and then abandoned VLC for the kmplayer and then abandoned playing media on Windows all together...  I never tried it myself  but I believe foobar2000 is also accessible.  The very latest one I tried was the gone mad music player. this was billed as the very latest ad free thing in music for Windows. unfortunately it's accessibility left much to be desired.

Best,

Erik

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On September 18, 2016 10:16:49 AM "Robert Kingett" <kingettspeaks@...> wrote:

I am looking for an NVDA accessible player that can basically play as many file types as VLC as well as podcasts and internet radio. There are a lot of inaccessible elements about VLC so does anyone have an alternative?    




Re: VLC alternative?

Erik Burggraaf <erik@...>
 

VLC must have fallen a long way since I used it many years ago. back then I found it perfectly accessible.   the main issue that I have with Windows media players in general is that they tend to be fraught with advertising.  this is the reason why I abandoned Winamp for VLC and then abandoned VLC for the kmplayer and then abandoned playing media on Windows all together...  I never tried it myself  but I believe foobar2000 is also accessible.  The very latest one I tried was the gone mad music player. this was billed as the very latest ad free thing in music for Windows. unfortunately it's accessibility left much to be desired.

Best,

Erik

Sent with AquaMail for Android
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On September 18, 2016 10:16:49 AM "Robert Kingett" <kingettspeaks@...> wrote:

I am looking for an NVDA accessible player that can basically play as many file types as VLC as well as podcasts and internet radio. There are a lot of inaccessible elements about VLC so does anyone have an alternative?    



VLC alternative?

Robert Kingett <kingettspeaks@...>
 

I am looking for an NVDA accessible player that can basically play as many file types as VLC as well as podcasts and internet radio. There are a lot of inaccessible elements about VLC so does anyone have an alternative?    



Mystery surrounding computer

marvin kotler
 

Good morning list; Marv here.  Someone asked me a question regarding an external keyboard.  When I plugged one into the laptop, the alt keys worked.  Do not know what to try next on the laptops keyboard.  The computer is an hp pavilion g6 notebook pc.  Anymore advice would be appreciated.  As stated previously, the alt keys on the laptops keyboard do not work properly.