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Re: NVDA preferred browser

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Quentin,


I have firefox, the webbie browser, edge and internet explorer. It never hurts to have more than one browserin case something doesn't work with your main browser.


Rosemarie



On 11/30/2016 1:50 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Hi Glenn,

The short answer is that it pays to have access to several browsers.  There are sites which, for various reasons, just work better in one browser over others.  NVDA works in Firefox, Chrome and Internet Explorer.  I had an example just before where a particular site / aria element worked better with NVDA in Chrome than Firefox.  

On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 3:18 AM, <glenn.bradford@...> wrote:

Hello - Is Firefox the recommended browser in for NVDA in Windows 7? Wondering if IE11 is considered a viable option as I am testing accessibility for a number of sites. Per the SSB Bart site "The second most widely used screen reader, NVDA, is hard coded to work best in Firefox. This includes ARIA support." Is that still an accurate statement?


SSB Bart article is at http://www.ssbbartgroup.com/blog/how-browsers-interact-with-screen-readers-and-where-aria-fits-in-the-mix/




--
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Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Direct: +61 413 904 383
www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 



Re: NVDA preferred browser

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Glenn,

The short answer is that it pays to have access to several browsers.  There are sites which, for various reasons, just work better in one browser over others.  NVDA works in Firefox, Chrome and Internet Explorer.  I had an example just before where a particular site / aria element worked better with NVDA in Chrome than Firefox.  

On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 3:18 AM, <glenn.bradford@...> wrote:

Hello - Is Firefox the recommended browser in for NVDA in Windows 7? Wondering if IE11 is considered a viable option as I am testing accessibility for a number of sites. Per the SSB Bart site "The second most widely used screen reader, NVDA, is hard coded to work best in Firefox. This includes ARIA support." Is that still an accurate statement?


SSB Bart article is at http://www.ssbbartgroup.com/blog/how-browsers-interact-with-screen-readers-and-where-aria-fits-in-the-mix/




--
Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Direct: +61 413 904 383
www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: File Upload Form Field Accessibility

Quentin Christensen
 

Depending on the form, it might be worth trying a different browser.  I just tried that test form in Chrome and it read the "Portfolio", "photo" etc labels, as well as that it was required etc.

Aria support is something we're working on improving.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 8:11 AM, Jacob Kruger <jacob@...> wrote:
That's what am saying - think you might need to, in fact implement something using HTML5 and javascript/jQuery to set the text contents of a <div /> element that's set to have a role of alert, and, an aria-live attribute value of assertive, or something.

Or else, try educate the end-user on the prior parts of the page so they'll know what to expect lower down, or somethhing?

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2016-11-30 22:18, Snahendu Bhattacharya wrote:
Thanks Jacob!

I tried the example provided by you. But no luck in Mozilla. It doesn't spell out the field label.

Snahendu Bhattacharya

On 30 November 2016 at 15:04, Jacob Kruger <jacob@...> wrote:

Unfortunately, seems like NVDA doesn't take note of assigned aria and other attributes - check out this example page:

http://maxdesign.com.au/jobs/sample-accessibility/05-forms/input-file.html


Try jumping/navigating to file upload buttons, and, they'll just be announced as buttons, and, think this page is trying to make use of various labelling options - I also tried a few aria-specific attributes here on my side, and, no-go.


Form of workaround might be to fire an event when those elements take focus, and, use jQuery to do something like set the text contents of a division that's role is marked as alert, to thus try notify NVDA, and other screen readers about the role of that form field?


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2016-11-30 21:44, Snahendu Bhattacharya wrote:


Hi All!

I am facing some issue while trying to access the <input type="file">element using a Screen reader like NVDA with Firefox.

The Screen reader doesn't announce the label of the field. In stead it only speaks the BROWSE button.

This is the form control never read by Screen Reader hence the user doesn't understand what is the field is all about.


Can somebody help me to understand the accessibility experience of this field?

--

Snahendu Bhattacharya








--
Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Direct: +61 413 904 383
www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: File Upload Form Field Accessibility

Jacob Kruger
 

That's what am saying - think you might need to, in fact implement something using HTML5 and javascript/jQuery to set the text contents of a <div /> element that's set to have a role of alert, and, an aria-live attribute value of assertive, or something.

Or else, try educate the end-user on the prior parts of the page so they'll know what to expect lower down, or somethhing?

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2016-11-30 22:18, Snahendu Bhattacharya wrote:

Thanks Jacob!

I tried the example provided by you. But no luck in Mozilla. It doesn't spell out the field label.

Snahendu Bhattacharya

On 30 November 2016 at 15:04, Jacob Kruger <jacob@...> wrote:

Unfortunately, seems like NVDA doesn't take note of assigned aria and other attributes - check out this example page:

http://maxdesign.com.au/jobs/sample-accessibility/05-forms/input-file.html


Try jumping/navigating to file upload buttons, and, they'll just be announced as buttons, and, think this page is trying to make use of various labelling options - I also tried a few aria-specific attributes here on my side, and, no-go.


Form of workaround might be to fire an event when those elements take focus, and, use jQuery to do something like set the text contents of a division that's role is marked as alert, to thus try notify NVDA, and other screen readers about the role of that form field?


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2016-11-30 21:44, Snahendu Bhattacharya wrote:


Hi All!

I am facing some issue while trying to access the <input type="file">element using a Screen reader like NVDA with Firefox.

The Screen reader doesn't announce the label of the field. In stead it only speaks the BROWSE button.

This is the form control never read by Screen Reader hence the user doesn't understand what is the field is all about.


Can somebody help me to understand the accessibility experience of this field?

--

Snahendu Bhattacharya






Re: Accessible battery Management Programs

Gene
 

I meant to say just turn the screen-saver completely off. 
 
gene

----- Original Message -----
From: David
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 2:03 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible battery Management Programs

Unless you have something connected to your USB ports, which really draws power - like an external hard disk - I am ready to say the USB ports may not give you much for power saving. Again, if you have something that draws a lot from the ports, learn to disconnect it, whenever you do not need it for a prolonged time.


Turning off Wireless and Bluetooth? Sure, that might give you a few minutes more on run-time, but cannot tell exactly how much. It would depend on how much you use the Wireless, and how good coverage you have, where you are at any given moment. Poor coverage, will demand the computer to resend information over the net, multiple times, and thereby consume some power.


In the old days, we used to turn off the screen, when there was no sighted people around. The screen is a power-consumer, hence if you can have it turned off, or at least lower the light on it, that might lengthen your battery life. On modern computers, it is not all that easy. Old models used to have a slider, to turn up and down the brightness of the screen. Turning it all down, meant the screen in practical terms was turned off. On modern models though, you will typically have to go to the control panel of Windows, and turn it on or off. Someone, on another list, suggested a while ago, that you could connect an empty monitor cable to the External Screen Connector on your laptop. To what extend that would help, in making the computer think it is on an external screen, therefore turning off the internal display - I am not able to tell for sure.


One thing though, that you could do, and which definitely will reduce power-consumption, is to change your hard disk to an SSD. The SSD has no mechanical parts, hence far less power is needed to operate it. Less power, no mechanics, you have a much cooler run of the computer. That in turn, results in the fan spinning far less. Less power consumption for the disk, less power consumption for the fan; it all amounts into quite a boost on your battery life.


I recently did the upgrade on my laptop. Before, with a standard hard disk installed, it would keep just about 2.5 hours on one charge. Now, with the SSD installed, I can run the computer more like 4 hours before it tells me it is hungry for some recharge. Add to it the faster computer I have got from it all, besides the far less noise I experience. And, of course, it is nice to not be cooked just because you happen to have your laptop in your lap.


As for general battery saving, I do suggest that you go to the control panel of Windows. Here, under Power Management, put your screen, disk and other equipment, into idle mode fast as you find it convenient. A screen that stays on for a whole hour, even if there is no activity, certainly will draw a lot of unnecessary power. Shorten the ON-time, to something like 10 or 15 minutes. Also, use a BLANK screen saver. If you do go for any screen saver that shows a picture, they are by definition constructed the way that the screen is being updated every so often. Such updating definitely eats battery power, for absolutely no good reason, since you won't have any enjoyment of the picture scrolling across the screen anyway. Besides, many screen savers do trouble the screen readers.


Hope any of this will bring you a tiny step further.

David


On 11/30/2016 8:27 PM, Gene wrote:
Those with more technical knowledge may agree or disagree with the following remarks.  These are my guesses but I have no experience to support them. But they may be useful as discussion points.
 
I don't know if there are any such programs or if they make enough difference to matter.  I don't know how you use your computer but I believe even something like turning off WIFI, which is the equivalent of airplane mode on phones, might save enough time to amount to something.  I'm not sure about this but I believe either disconnecting or turning off USB devices if they can be turned off, would save more power.  Using efficient headphones or amplified external speakers and keeping your play sound levels low would probably save more power.  Taken together, such things might save enough power to amount to something.
 
If battery life is significantly insufficient, I doubt anything will give you a lot more time.  Those with experience in these matters can tell you.  That's my guess but its just a guess.  My guess is that it probably would be necessary to carry an extra battery. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 1:10 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible battery Management Programs

Hi Travis,
Yes, I have checked out the battery related configuration settings
present in Windows's own Control Panel, was just wondering if there
were more advanced and feature-rich programs that could perhaps
provide perhaps a slight battery life extension. I was looking mostly
at utilities similar to third-party battery saving apps that one uses
on Smartphones, for laptops.
Thanks.

On 12/1/16, Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...> wrote:
> I'm not sure what kinds of management you'd want to do, since generally,
> most things you can do to the laptop are configurable from the windows
> control panel under screen saver (or something similar).  Generally,
> there's battery status in the system tray, though if you specifically
> need a program to show you battery status, I have one I wrote years ago
> because it wasn't convenient for me to keep going to the system tray
> just to check my battery status, this program just pops up, shows me my
> charge, and time left (I think, it's been a while since I've had a
> windows laptop), then allows me to exit and go back to what I was
> doing.  Unless a utility came with your laptop though, it's probably not
> a good idea to try to mess around with any other battery settings, since
> that has a tendency to break things, and I don't know any programs that
> do that anyway, though I'm sure there are some out there, especially for
> these smart batteries they have these days.
>
> Anyway, if the windows sleep/screen saver screens don't give you the
> control you want, I don't have any suggestions on what else to try.
>
>
>
> On 11/30/2016 1:35 PM, Bhavya shah wrote:
>> Dear all,
>> I was wondering if there exist battery management, optimization and
>> saving utilities for PCs. If so, could you folks recommend an
>> accessible and free software of that sort?
>> I would appreciate any assistance.
>> Thanks.
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>


--
Best Regards
Bhavya Shah

Avid Enthusiast and User of the Free NVDA Screen Reader (www.nvaccess.org)

Contacting Me
E-mail Address: bhavya.shah125@...
Follow me on Twitter @BhavyaShah125 or www.twitter.com/BhavyaShah125
Mobile Number: +91 7506221750




Re: Accessible battery Management Programs

Gene
 

Just turn the screen-reader completely off. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: David
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 2:03 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible battery Management Programs

Unless you have something connected to your USB ports, which really draws power - like an external hard disk - I am ready to say the USB ports may not give you much for power saving. Again, if you have something that draws a lot from the ports, learn to disconnect it, whenever you do not need it for a prolonged time.


Turning off Wireless and Bluetooth? Sure, that might give you a few minutes more on run-time, but cannot tell exactly how much. It would depend on how much you use the Wireless, and how good coverage you have, where you are at any given moment. Poor coverage, will demand the computer to resend information over the net, multiple times, and thereby consume some power.


In the old days, we used to turn off the screen, when there was no sighted people around. The screen is a power-consumer, hence if you can have it turned off, or at least lower the light on it, that might lengthen your battery life. On modern computers, it is not all that easy. Old models used to have a slider, to turn up and down the brightness of the screen. Turning it all down, meant the screen in practical terms was turned off. On modern models though, you will typically have to go to the control panel of Windows, and turn it on or off. Someone, on another list, suggested a while ago, that you could connect an empty monitor cable to the External Screen Connector on your laptop. To what extend that would help, in making the computer think it is on an external screen, therefore turning off the internal display - I am not able to tell for sure.


One thing though, that you could do, and which definitely will reduce power-consumption, is to change your hard disk to an SSD. The SSD has no mechanical parts, hence far less power is needed to operate it. Less power, no mechanics, you have a much cooler run of the computer. That in turn, results in the fan spinning far less. Less power consumption for the disk, less power consumption for the fan; it all amounts into quite a boost on your battery life.


I recently did the upgrade on my laptop. Before, with a standard hard disk installed, it would keep just about 2.5 hours on one charge. Now, with the SSD installed, I can run the computer more like 4 hours before it tells me it is hungry for some recharge. Add to it the faster computer I have got from it all, besides the far less noise I experience. And, of course, it is nice to not be cooked just because you happen to have your laptop in your lap.


As for general battery saving, I do suggest that you go to the control panel of Windows. Here, under Power Management, put your screen, disk and other equipment, into idle mode fast as you find it convenient. A screen that stays on for a whole hour, even if there is no activity, certainly will draw a lot of unnecessary power. Shorten the ON-time, to something like 10 or 15 minutes. Also, use a BLANK screen saver. If you do go for any screen saver that shows a picture, they are by definition constructed the way that the screen is being updated every so often. Such updating definitely eats battery power, for absolutely no good reason, since you won't have any enjoyment of the picture scrolling across the screen anyway. Besides, many screen savers do trouble the screen readers.


Hope any of this will bring you a tiny step further.

David


On 11/30/2016 8:27 PM, Gene wrote:
Those with more technical knowledge may agree or disagree with the following remarks.  These are my guesses but I have no experience to support them. But they may be useful as discussion points.
 
I don't know if there are any such programs or if they make enough difference to matter.  I don't know how you use your computer but I believe even something like turning off WIFI, which is the equivalent of airplane mode on phones, might save enough time to amount to something.  I'm not sure about this but I believe either disconnecting or turning off USB devices if they can be turned off, would save more power.  Using efficient headphones or amplified external speakers and keeping your play sound levels low would probably save more power.  Taken together, such things might save enough power to amount to something.
 
If battery life is significantly insufficient, I doubt anything will give you a lot more time.  Those with experience in these matters can tell you.  That's my guess but its just a guess.  My guess is that it probably would be necessary to carry an extra battery. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 1:10 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible battery Management Programs

Hi Travis,
Yes, I have checked out the battery related configuration settings
present in Windows's own Control Panel, was just wondering if there
were more advanced and feature-rich programs that could perhaps
provide perhaps a slight battery life extension. I was looking mostly
at utilities similar to third-party battery saving apps that one uses
on Smartphones, for laptops.
Thanks.

On 12/1/16, Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...> wrote:
> I'm not sure what kinds of management you'd want to do, since generally,
> most things you can do to the laptop are configurable from the windows
> control panel under screen saver (or something similar).  Generally,
> there's battery status in the system tray, though if you specifically
> need a program to show you battery status, I have one I wrote years ago
> because it wasn't convenient for me to keep going to the system tray
> just to check my battery status, this program just pops up, shows me my
> charge, and time left (I think, it's been a while since I've had a
> windows laptop), then allows me to exit and go back to what I was
> doing.  Unless a utility came with your laptop though, it's probably not
> a good idea to try to mess around with any other battery settings, since
> that has a tendency to break things, and I don't know any programs that
> do that anyway, though I'm sure there are some out there, especially for
> these smart batteries they have these days.
>
> Anyway, if the windows sleep/screen saver screens don't give you the
> control you want, I don't have any suggestions on what else to try.
>
>
>
> On 11/30/2016 1:35 PM, Bhavya shah wrote:
>> Dear all,
>> I was wondering if there exist battery management, optimization and
>> saving utilities for PCs. If so, could you folks recommend an
>> accessible and free software of that sort?
>> I would appreciate any assistance.
>> Thanks.
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>


--
Best Regards
Bhavya Shah

Avid Enthusiast and User of the Free NVDA Screen Reader (www.nvaccess.org)

Contacting Me
E-mail Address: bhavya.shah125@...
Follow me on Twitter @BhavyaShah125 or www.twitter.com/BhavyaShah125
Mobile Number: +91 7506221750




Re: File Upload Form Field Accessibility

Snahendu Bhattacharya
 

Thanks Jacob!

I tried the example provided by you. But no luck in Mozilla. It doesn't spell out the field label.

Snahendu Bhattacharya

On 30 November 2016 at 15:04, Jacob Kruger <jacob@...> wrote:

Unfortunately, seems like NVDA doesn't take note of assigned aria and other attributes - check out this example page:

http://maxdesign.com.au/jobs/sample-accessibility/05-forms/input-file.html


Try jumping/navigating to file upload buttons, and, they'll just be announced as buttons, and, think this page is trying to make use of various labelling options - I also tried a few aria-specific attributes here on my side, and, no-go.


Form of workaround might be to fire an event when those elements take focus, and, use jQuery to do something like set the text contents of a division that's role is marked as alert, to thus try notify NVDA, and other screen readers about the role of that form field?


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2016-11-30 21:44, Snahendu Bhattacharya wrote:


Hi All!

I am facing some issue while trying to access the <input type="file">element using a Screen reader like NVDA with Firefox.

The Screen reader doesn't announce the label of the field. In stead it only speaks the BROWSE button.

This is the form control never read by Screen Reader hence the user doesn't understand what is the field is all about.


Can somebody help me to understand the accessibility experience of this field?

--

Snahendu Bhattacharya





Re: File Upload Form Field Accessibility

Jacob Kruger
 

Unfortunately, seems like NVDA doesn't take note of assigned aria and other attributes - check out this example page:

http://maxdesign.com.au/jobs/sample-accessibility/05-forms/input-file.html


Try jumping/navigating to file upload buttons, and, they'll just be announced as buttons, and, think this page is trying to make use of various labelling options - I also tried a few aria-specific attributes here on my side, and, no-go.


Form of workaround might be to fire an event when those elements take focus, and, use jQuery to do something like set the text contents of a division that's role is marked as alert, to thus try notify NVDA, and other screen readers about the role of that form field?


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2016-11-30 21:44, Snahendu Bhattacharya wrote:


Hi All!

I am facing some issue while trying to access the <input type="file">element using a Screen reader like NVDA with Firefox.

The Screen reader doesn't announce the label of the field. In stead it only speaks the BROWSE button.

This is the form control never read by Screen Reader hence the user doesn't understand what is the field is all about.


Can somebody help me to understand the accessibility experience of this field?

--

Snahendu Bhattacharya




Re: Accessible battery Management Programs

David <trailerdavid@...>
 

Unless you have something connected to your USB ports, which really draws power - like an external hard disk - I am ready to say the USB ports may not give you much for power saving. Again, if you have something that draws a lot from the ports, learn to disconnect it, whenever you do not need it for a prolonged time.


Turning off Wireless and Bluetooth? Sure, that might give you a few minutes more on run-time, but cannot tell exactly how much. It would depend on how much you use the Wireless, and how good coverage you have, where you are at any given moment. Poor coverage, will demand the computer to resend information over the net, multiple times, and thereby consume some power.


In the old days, we used to turn off the screen, when there was no sighted people around. The screen is a power-consumer, hence if you can have it turned off, or at least lower the light on it, that might lengthen your battery life. On modern computers, it is not all that easy. Old models used to have a slider, to turn up and down the brightness of the screen. Turning it all down, meant the screen in practical terms was turned off. On modern models though, you will typically have to go to the control panel of Windows, and turn it on or off. Someone, on another list, suggested a while ago, that you could connect an empty monitor cable to the External Screen Connector on your laptop. To what extend that would help, in making the computer think it is on an external screen, therefore turning off the internal display - I am not able to tell for sure.


One thing though, that you could do, and which definitely will reduce power-consumption, is to change your hard disk to an SSD. The SSD has no mechanical parts, hence far less power is needed to operate it. Less power, no mechanics, you have a much cooler run of the computer. That in turn, results in the fan spinning far less. Less power consumption for the disk, less power consumption for the fan; it all amounts into quite a boost on your battery life.


I recently did the upgrade on my laptop. Before, with a standard hard disk installed, it would keep just about 2.5 hours on one charge. Now, with the SSD installed, I can run the computer more like 4 hours before it tells me it is hungry for some recharge. Add to it the faster computer I have got from it all, besides the far less noise I experience. And, of course, it is nice to not be cooked just because you happen to have your laptop in your lap.


As for general battery saving, I do suggest that you go to the control panel of Windows. Here, under Power Management, put your screen, disk and other equipment, into idle mode fast as you find it convenient. A screen that stays on for a whole hour, even if there is no activity, certainly will draw a lot of unnecessary power. Shorten the ON-time, to something like 10 or 15 minutes. Also, use a BLANK screen saver. If you do go for any screen saver that shows a picture, they are by definition constructed the way that the screen is being updated every so often. Such updating definitely eats battery power, for absolutely no good reason, since you won't have any enjoyment of the picture scrolling across the screen anyway. Besides, many screen savers do trouble the screen readers.


Hope any of this will bring you a tiny step further.

David


On 11/30/2016 8:27 PM, Gene wrote:
Those with more technical knowledge may agree or disagree with the following remarks.  These are my guesses but I have no experience to support them. But they may be useful as discussion points.
 
I don't know if there are any such programs or if they make enough difference to matter.  I don't know how you use your computer but I believe even something like turning off WIFI, which is the equivalent of airplane mode on phones, might save enough time to amount to something.  I'm not sure about this but I believe either disconnecting or turning off USB devices if they can be turned off, would save more power.  Using efficient headphones or amplified external speakers and keeping your play sound levels low would probably save more power.  Taken together, such things might save enough power to amount to something.
 
If battery life is significantly insufficient, I doubt anything will give you a lot more time.  Those with experience in these matters can tell you.  That's my guess but its just a guess.  My guess is that it probably would be necessary to carry an extra battery. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 1:10 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible battery Management Programs

Hi Travis,
Yes, I have checked out the battery related configuration settings
present in Windows's own Control Panel, was just wondering if there
were more advanced and feature-rich programs that could perhaps
provide perhaps a slight battery life extension. I was looking mostly
at utilities similar to third-party battery saving apps that one uses
on Smartphones, for laptops.
Thanks.

On 12/1/16, Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...> wrote:
> I'm not sure what kinds of management you'd want to do, since generally,
> most things you can do to the laptop are configurable from the windows
> control panel under screen saver (or something similar).  Generally,
> there's battery status in the system tray, though if you specifically
> need a program to show you battery status, I have one I wrote years ago
> because it wasn't convenient for me to keep going to the system tray
> just to check my battery status, this program just pops up, shows me my
> charge, and time left (I think, it's been a while since I've had a
> windows laptop), then allows me to exit and go back to what I was
> doing.  Unless a utility came with your laptop though, it's probably not
> a good idea to try to mess around with any other battery settings, since
> that has a tendency to break things, and I don't know any programs that
> do that anyway, though I'm sure there are some out there, especially for
> these smart batteries they have these days.
>
> Anyway, if the windows sleep/screen saver screens don't give you the
> control you want, I don't have any suggestions on what else to try.
>
>
>
> On 11/30/2016 1:35 PM, Bhavya shah wrote:
>> Dear all,
>> I was wondering if there exist battery management, optimization and
>> saving utilities for PCs. If so, could you folks recommend an
>> accessible and free software of that sort?
>> I would appreciate any assistance.
>> Thanks.
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>


--
Best Regards
Bhavya Shah

Avid Enthusiast and User of the Free NVDA Screen Reader (www.nvaccess.org)

Contacting Me
E-mail Address: bhavya.shah125@...
Follow me on Twitter @BhavyaShah125 or www.twitter.com/BhavyaShah125
Mobile Number: +91 7506221750




Re: Acapela for NVDA v1.4 released: TTS voice update, new scottish voice and more

Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
 


I did. Did you not get my message? I sent it real early this morning.
---
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JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.
 
info@...
Phone: (704) 256-8010.

----- Original Message -----
From: Paolo Leva
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 10:16 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Acapela for NVDA v1.4 released: TTS voice update, new scottish voice and more

Hi Christopher, for all license and support questions, just drop me an email at contact@...


File Upload Form Field Accessibility

Snahendu Bhattacharya
 


Hi All!

I am facing some issue while trying to access the <input type="file">element using a Screen reader like NVDA with Firefox.

The Screen reader doesn't announce the label of the field. In stead it only speaks the BROWSE button.

This is the form control never read by Screen Reader hence the user doesn't understand what is the field is all about.


Can somebody help me to understand the accessibility experience of this field?

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Snahendu Bhattacharya



Re: Accessible battery Management Programs

Gene
 

Those with more technical knowledge may agree or disagree with the following remarks.  These are my guesses but I have no experience to support them. But they may be useful as discussion points.
 
I don't know if there are any such programs or if they make enough difference to matter.  I don't know how you use your computer but I believe even something like turning off WIFI, which is the equivalent of airplane mode on phones, might save enough time to amount to something.  I'm not sure about this but I believe either disconnecting or turning off USB devices if they can be turned off, would save more power.  Using efficient headphones or amplified external speakers and keeping your play sound levels low would probably save more power.  Taken together, such things might save enough power to amount to something.
 
If battery life is significantly insufficient, I doubt anything will give you a lot more time.  Those with experience in these matters can tell you.  That's my guess but its just a guess.  My guess is that it probably would be necessary to carry an extra battery. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 1:10 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible battery Management Programs

Hi Travis,
Yes, I have checked out the battery related configuration settings
present in Windows's own Control Panel, was just wondering if there
were more advanced and feature-rich programs that could perhaps
provide perhaps a slight battery life extension. I was looking mostly
at utilities similar to third-party battery saving apps that one uses
on Smartphones, for laptops.
Thanks.

On 12/1/16, Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...> wrote:
> I'm not sure what kinds of management you'd want to do, since generally,
> most things you can do to the laptop are configurable from the windows
> control panel under screen saver (or something similar).  Generally,
> there's battery status in the system tray, though if you specifically
> need a program to show you battery status, I have one I wrote years ago
> because it wasn't convenient for me to keep going to the system tray
> just to check my battery status, this program just pops up, shows me my
> charge, and time left (I think, it's been a while since I've had a
> windows laptop), then allows me to exit and go back to what I was
> doing.  Unless a utility came with your laptop though, it's probably not
> a good idea to try to mess around with any other battery settings, since
> that has a tendency to break things, and I don't know any programs that
> do that anyway, though I'm sure there are some out there, especially for
> these smart batteries they have these days.
>
> Anyway, if the windows sleep/screen saver screens don't give you the
> control you want, I don't have any suggestions on what else to try.
>
>
>
> On 11/30/2016 1:35 PM, Bhavya shah wrote:
>> Dear all,
>> I was wondering if there exist battery management, optimization and
>> saving utilities for PCs. If so, could you folks recommend an
>> accessible and free software of that sort?
>> I would appreciate any assistance.
>> Thanks.
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>


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Contacting Me
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Re: Accessible battery Management Programs

Bhavya shah
 

Hi Travis,
Yes, I have checked out the battery related configuration settings
present in Windows's own Control Panel, was just wondering if there
were more advanced and feature-rich programs that could perhaps
provide perhaps a slight battery life extension. I was looking mostly
at utilities similar to third-party battery saving apps that one uses
on Smartphones, for laptops.
Thanks.

On 12/1/16, Travis Siegel <tsiegel@softcon.com> wrote:
I'm not sure what kinds of management you'd want to do, since generally,
most things you can do to the laptop are configurable from the windows
control panel under screen saver (or something similar). Generally,
there's battery status in the system tray, though if you specifically
need a program to show you battery status, I have one I wrote years ago
because it wasn't convenient for me to keep going to the system tray
just to check my battery status, this program just pops up, shows me my
charge, and time left (I think, it's been a while since I've had a
windows laptop), then allows me to exit and go back to what I was
doing. Unless a utility came with your laptop though, it's probably not
a good idea to try to mess around with any other battery settings, since
that has a tendency to break things, and I don't know any programs that
do that anyway, though I'm sure there are some out there, especially for
these smart batteries they have these days.

Anyway, if the windows sleep/screen saver screens don't give you the
control you want, I don't have any suggestions on what else to try.



On 11/30/2016 1:35 PM, Bhavya shah wrote:
Dear all,
I was wondering if there exist battery management, optimization and
saving utilities for PCs. If so, could you folks recommend an
accessible and free software of that sort?
I would appreciate any assistance.
Thanks.




--
Best Regards
Bhavya Shah

Avid Enthusiast and User of the Free NVDA Screen Reader (www.nvaccess.org)

Contacting Me
E-mail Address: bhavya.shah125@gmail.com
Follow me on Twitter @BhavyaShah125 or www.twitter.com/BhavyaShah125
Mobile Number: +91 7506221750


Re: Accessible battery Management Programs

Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...>
 

I'm not sure what kinds of management you'd want to do, since generally, most things you can do to the laptop are configurable from the windows control panel under screen saver (or something similar). Generally, there's battery status in the system tray, though if you specifically need a program to show you battery status, I have one I wrote years ago because it wasn't convenient for me to keep going to the system tray just to check my battery status, this program just pops up, shows me my charge, and time left (I think, it's been a while since I've had a windows laptop), then allows me to exit and go back to what I was doing. Unless a utility came with your laptop though, it's probably not a good idea to try to mess around with any other battery settings, since that has a tendency to break things, and I don't know any programs that do that anyway, though I'm sure there are some out there, especially for these smart batteries they have these days.

Anyway, if the windows sleep/screen saver screens don't give you the control you want, I don't have any suggestions on what else to try.

On 11/30/2016 1:35 PM, Bhavya shah wrote:
Dear all,
I was wondering if there exist battery management, optimization and
saving utilities for PCs. If so, could you folks recommend an
accessible and free software of that sort?
I would appreciate any assistance.
Thanks.


Accessible battery Management Programs

Bhavya shah
 

Dear all,
I was wondering if there exist battery management, optimization and
saving utilities for PCs. If so, could you folks recommend an
accessible and free software of that sort?
I would appreciate any assistance.
Thanks.

--
Best Regards
Bhavya Shah

Avid Enthusiast and User of the Free NVDA Screen Reader (www.nvaccess.org)

Contacting Me
E-mail Address: bhavya.shah125@gmail.com
Follow me on Twitter @BhavyaShah125 or www.twitter.com/BhavyaShah125
Mobile Number: +91 7506221750


Re: test mail

Dejan Ristic
 

It has reached me.

On 11/30/2016 2:22 PM, sazid wrote:
dear list, as this isa test mail please tell me that my mail is
reaching this group or not.

thanks and regards,


.


Re: Acapela for NVDA v1.4 released: TTS voice update, new scottish voice and more

Brandon Cross <bcross3286@...>
 

I would like to buy this but paypal claims my paypal credit cannot be used for that purchase, I don't know why, I can use it most other places. I cannot shell out the $110 for it out of my bank though. I will be able to do that maybe in a few months, but not at this point. I've wanted to buy it for a while now.


Re: synthesizers

 

I do not know if NVDA find support for sapi mobile, but you can download the sapi mobile addon from https://artin1.stackstorage.com/s/PjueEyobqd0Tofe.

Met vriendelijke groet,
Artin Dekker
Beheerder win10-nl mailgroep
https://win10-nl.groups.io/g/algemeen

Op 30-11-2016 om 16:28 schreef Dan Beaver:

I am asking under this subject instead of under the Acapela subject.


When are we going to get access to the MS Mark voice? I have used it under other programs and it is very responsive and sounds very good to my ears. It is free and we don't have to pay for it.


When will we get access via NVDA?


Thanks.


Dan Beaver



NVDA preferred browser

glenn.bradford@...
 

Hello - Is Firefox the recommended browser in for NVDA in Windows 7? Wondering if IE11 is considered a viable option as I am testing accessibility for a number of sites. Per the SSB Bart site "The second most widely used screen reader, NVDA, is hard coded to work best in Firefox. This includes ARIA support." Is that still an accurate statement?


SSB Bart article is at http://www.ssbbartgroup.com/blog/how-browsers-interact-with-screen-readers-and-where-aria-fits-in-the-mix/


Re: Acapela for NVDA v1.4 released: TTS voice update, new scottish voice and more

Gary Metzler <gmtravel@...>
 

Hi,
 
I can’t find a way to import the voices.  Thanks for any help.
 

From: Paolo Leva
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 10:15 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Acapela for NVDA v1.4 released: TTS voice update, new scottish voice and more
 

Thanks Don for your question,

pricing is here: http://www.acapela-nvda.com/buy/

download is here: http://www.acapela-nvda.com/download/

After first usage you have 15 days free license before you need to buy a license.