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Re: New Member (5)

Robert Mendoza
 

Here is my view of points concerning to your message. First about the browser, most of the time I used to work well with Firefox, and which I think is the best and most accessible but again, it may defer your preferences of working you do. Second, about the recording apps that there are the two that is commendable is the audacity and Virtual Recorder these  has its features to saved and you can create mp3 files format.  Those mentioned apps is freeware and at the same time it is doable with nvda. And, lastly, for the email client I often used Thunderbird but Win 10 has this built-in Mail apps where you can save and have it setup your mail whether IMAP or POP account. In the other note, you can play around and explore these mentioned software which gives you an edge to familiarize the shortcut keys and how does it works until you decide which you may think that best fit for your needs. Again, if you have any further question please don't hesitate to message here and surely someone here from the list will helps you.

Robert Mendoza
On 5/22/2016 3:11 PM, Jolene Cardenas wrote:

Hello once more,

Thank you for your responses, for I enjoyed reading them a lot!

Further specs: My Web browser is the latest version of Firefox (even
though a sighted friend told me that Google Chrome was better), my
default media player is Windows Media Player 12 (not The Groove Music
from Windows 10), and Gmail is the only e-mail source I use.  Since
Windows 10 doesn't come with the Sound Recorder program like how
previous versions of Windows does, I'm missing it a lot because I use
it for Podcasting and other projects.  Can any Windows 10 user
recommend any sound-recording program that would work well with it +
NVDA?  I'd appreciate your feedback so much.

Just FYI: I have no usable vision in both eyes to read large print so
I'm totally dependent on NVDA to do all my reading out loud for me.

Take care, and have a good day.

sincerely,

Jolene.





Re: Windows 10 shortcuts to items

Joe Hunter <joehunter@...>
 

On 22/05/2016 10:10, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
I'm looking to make simpler some things in 10. I find having to search for stuff long winded and also access via a huge tree of interconnected dialogues is also a bit slow.
For example, how can one get to just a list of drives on the computer, how can one get to the main screen of windows defender to do manual scans.
These are just two of the things I can do in windows 7, very easily, but seem to be very irritatingly awkward on 10.
I have found the sound level of running programs dialogue and put a shortcut to it, and this works, but in many cases in 10, despite classic shell, and being an admin, I get blocked by you are not allowed to do this or that, but when it is accessed via loads of menues links and whatever, it goes there quite happily.
I seldom myself use start menu, preferring to get things either ron the desktop or to put a folder of the shortcuts on the desktop. This saves a lot of messing about in searches and scrolling up and down start menus to find its been listed under some daft letter rather than the logical one.
Brian

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listing your drives. press enter on this computer. and you will find a list of drives at the bottom. Joe


Windows 10 shortcuts to items

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I'm looking to make simpler some things in 10. I find having to search for stuff long winded and also access via a huge tree of interconnected dialogues is also a bit slow.
For example, how can one get to just a list of drives on the computer, how can one get to the main screen of windows defender to do manual scans.
These are just two of the things I can do in windows 7, very easily, but seem to be very irritatingly awkward on 10.
I have found the sound level of running programs dialogue and put a shortcut to it, and this works, but in many cases in 10, despite classic shell, and being an admin, I get blocked by you are not allowed to do this or that, but when it is accessed via loads of menues links and whatever, it goes there quite happily.
I seldom myself use start menu, preferring to get things either ron the desktop or to put a folder of the shortcuts on the desktop. This saves a lot of messing about in searches and scrolling up and down start menus to find its been listed under some daft letter rather than the logical one.
Brian

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Re: next release of nvda:

Mr. Wong Chi Wai <cwwong.pro@...>
 

Looking forward for that.


Bhavya shah 於 21/5/2016 17:53 寫道:

Hi Gene,
Oddly enough, I received your mail thrice.
Anyways, it being NVDA's 10th anniversary, NV Access had indicated a
potential delay in releasing NVDA 2015.2, and that is confirmed by a
slightly late translation freeze.
All the same, we hopefully will have NVDA 2016.2 live soon enough.
Thanks.

On 5/21/16, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@outlook.co.nz> wrote:
Hi

Usually it is around the 23rd of feb, may, aug, and nov if all goes well.
From what I hear this release might be delayed, but when it is released
there will be a email coming into your inbox, or nvda will want to upgrade
if the auto updater is turned on or there will be chatter on the list.

Gene nz


On 21/05/2016 7:25 AM, Kenny Peyattt jr. wrote:
Hi when will the next version of nvda be released?
Kenny Peyattt jr.

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Re: browsing with edge,

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I find most of the time, even in xp I seldom used the start menu, preferring to make shortcuts eithe directly on the desktop or in a shortcut to a folder of shortcuts for the less used stuff. This of course was easier in xp as you could access all areas, but in 7 and 10, this s seems to be an issue where you cannot get at the folder with the start menu shortcuts in it, forcing you either to find the executable and make one or to try to hack into the security settings. its a good job my hair is already white!
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Shaun Everiss" <sm.everiss@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 11:31 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,


AAh yeah I agree on search even in 7 I havn't used file search that much unless I have a large list.
Ok so maybe I need to practice the start menu a bit more maybe I just need to get used to it.



On 21/05/2016 9:51 p.m., Pete wrote:

hi Shaun

The apps thing is a big list of all the programs installed on your
computer. You can navigate using down and up arrow keys. Use the
application key for pinning to start screen / etc. I like the start
screen, kind of like a second desktop. I unpinned every thing from it
and just pinned what I wanted up there. I just have recycle bin on the
desktop. Recycle bin can be hidden or removed from the desktop I think.

I don't care for the file manager with the search! I mean come on how
many search boxes do we really need?

I'll even go as far as I like the start screen better than the start
menus from 98 and up. It's the greatest thing m s has done in a long
while.

Pete

On 5/21/2016 3:24 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Well to be honest, I upgraded 1 machine to 10 that I have access to.
Here is where I stand with 10.
When I do eventually upgrade I am confident that with all the advances
with features, lockscreens, and other things that I can probably use
10 at least the desktop with vary little modification to the registry.
While now that the system has done with indexing I can do single
letter search in start and it actually comes up fine.
3. I am confidant that with all the things ms has at least for the
desktop I will be fine.
5. I know some of my way round bits of the new ribbon.
6. I am sure with ribbon disabler, and classic shell I may be able to
make it look 7 like.
6. I think I am getting used to the task manager bits of action
centre and settings.
What I havn't figured out are the apps just yet or the ms account thing.
I think in the short term if I need to I will be able to use 10
without any real issue.



On 21/05/2016 9:31 a.m., Scott VanDeWalle wrote:
i am positibve that all will be working well within the next little bit,
as in maybe the next few official win 10 updates. Ms keeps saying by
the end of this year.
So let's all hope so.

Scott
Original message:
I found Edge very annoying, too, when I first upgraded to Windows 10.
Although I would set Firefox as default it would still popup as
settings. I tried to uninstall it but could not. I took it to a
computer shop and they at least they got rid of the settings popup. I
avoid using Cortana just because of Edge. Google is my homepage and
search engine.
On 5/20/16, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
There are certain things that only work with Edge regardless of
whether you
had a choice before. Recently, Microsoft made certain things use Edge
regardless of what is set as the default browser. There may only be
two of
these things. I know one had something to do with search, perhaps
searching
somehow in the start menu. Whatever the case, if you set another
browser as
the default and something brings up Edge, then you probably have no
choice
but to do whatever you want to do directly from within the browser
you want
to use.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Pascal Lambert
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,

Greetings,
I find Edge very slow, it takes few mins to have voice feedback when
it is
launched. I tried to get rid of it and make Firefox the default
but it
comes back in certain situations. Is there a way to completely
disabled it?
I prefer using Firefox even though lately it is having problem with
Flash
player acting strangely. Any suggestions on these issues is greatly
appreciated.
Many thanks
Blessings
Pascal


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't
links


There is more than just speed to consider. Firefox still uses a
different
interface and it is a more convenient interface. Chrome shows all
sorts of
things such as history and settings as web pages. Firefox has a lot
more
add ons. Firefox has a document reading feature that blind people
can use.
I tried using a Chrome add on for this purpose and I couldn't use
it. I
don't know if there are other Chrome add ons that implement this
feature.
It appears to me that Chrome hasn't even put short cut commands on
some or
many of its menu items. That sore of thing is and has been standard
since
the mid-nineties.

Gene


From: P. Otter
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 11:54 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't
links


ofr me it's the same!
chrome is in the most situations nice and quick, more than most other
browsers.
google has made accessibility extentions it is recommanded to install
for
example the extention that let you navigate with the arrow keys.
cheers
paul otter


----- Original Message -----
From: Bobby
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that
aren't
links


Hay very good news google crome is now accessible as well. I now
use it
as my default browser


On 5/20/2016 12:32 PM, Peter Beasley wrote:
That browser is not fully accessible. Use internet explorer or
Mozilla
firefox.


From: ken lawrence via Groups.io
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 4:16 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't
links


Hi listers ken here have a vexing problem. on two local radio
stations
namely WOLD-lp, and WMGQ in NJ I can’t seem to find the listen
live. on
WOLD the problem is simpler. the listen live appears as a heading,
but not
as a link, clickable graphic or button just the words listen live.
this is
the only way to listen to the station without tunein radio since they
have
change from a winamp based stream to a flash based popup player.
they have
changed stream providors. what must they do to make there stream
appear as
a link and not just the words listen live? then on Magic 98.3 the
problem
is even stranger. in order to listen to all greater-media owned
stations
you must register for their listener clubs. in the case of magic 98.3
additionally you are only able to listen to them if you live in NJ,
Pa area.
same with active rock station WDHA in dover NJ. must assume the same
condition is true with WRAT the jersey shore based rocker. I have
tried on
three different browsers to log into the station and the listen
live is
nowhere. no button, no links, no graphics. there are listen links
connected to interviews/features but not the stream. didn’t try the
word
play but no play buttons exist then just now using the edge browser
with
NVDA clearly hit the letter f found the edit field, but when
entered the
stupid site thought Oh you searched for your email address, sorry no
such
thing. so edge is obviously out since NVDA can’t seem to focus on
the right
edit field. so my question is this, how do I advise the webmasters
of both
radio stations? especially magic 98.3 since I’m technically a music
club
member? the websites for both are www.woldradio.com for oldies 107.9
and
www.magic983.com for WMGQ. perhaps someone with partial sight can
advise on
this one. is it a fix on my end possibly?






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Re: browsing with edge,

Brian's Mail list account BY <bglists@...>
 

Well do give up on the one with windoze 10, as it is rubbish. I don't know what they were thinking when they created it and made it default. its got to the stage now that even vendors who sell pcs alter it to Ie or Firefox, so the experience for sighted users must be a bit naff as well.
I think we have heard enough of this now. I only recently got a windows 10 machine and can see, well hear, how awful it actually is.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Bobby" <bvinton@optonline.net>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 7:16 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,


The alt key does not work only the tab key works. When red stone comes
out Microsoft says things will get better than they are now. Just don't
give up.


On 5/21/2016 12:21 PM, Pascal Lambert wrote:

Thanks everybody for the info on using Edge. Please, how does one
access the pull down menus in Edge? I keep hitting the “alt-key” and
nothing happens. Is there another way in Edge? All the alt key
commands of IE seem to be deactivated when I launch Edge. Please
advise. Also, I have a set home page, Edge ignores it and goes to the
default each time.

Many thanks.

Blessings

Pascal

*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of
*David Moore
*Sent:* Friday, May 20, 2016 6:54 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,

Hi,

I urge you to get the NvDA add on, Windows 10 app assentials. This add
on makes NVDA able to access all of the results of Cortana in Edge.
Cortana can already do much more than Siri on an iPhone, so I really
encourage you to give Cortana and Edge to get her results another try
after you install the NVDA add on Windows 10 app assentials that
Joseph Lee programs. Using Cortana and accessing the results with NvDA
already makes me much more efficient with doing my work. You do not
have to do a lot of browsing to find what you want, because Cortana
does such a good job of narrowing down what you need and you can read
the results right away in Edge and totally access it with NVDA. I just
want you to know how much I am getting out of Cortana and Edge by
installing that add on to NVDA. Take care.

*From:*Greg Wocher <mailto:gwocher@gwocher.com>

*Sent:*Friday, May 20, 2016 5:02 PM

*To:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

*Subject:*Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,

Hello,

Unfortunately there is not a way to disable edge entirely. There are
times when it will automatically be used no matter what you have your
default browser set to. One instance that comes to mind is when doing
a search with Kortana. The search results will always come up in edge.

Regards,

Greg Wocher

On 5/20/2016 4:12 PM, Pascal Lambert wrote:

Greetings,

I find Edge very slow, it takes few mins to have voice feedback
when it is launched. I tried to get rid of it and make Firefox
the default but it comes back in certain situations. Is there a
way to completely disabled it? I prefer using Firefox even though
lately it is having problem with Flash player acting strangely.
Any suggestions on these issues is greatly appreciated.

Many thanks

Blessings

Pascal

*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Gene
*Sent:* Friday, May 20, 2016 3:44 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that
aren't links

There is more than just speed to consider. Firefox still uses a
different interface and it is a more convenient interface. Chrome
shows all sorts of things such as history and settings as web
pages. Firefox has a lot more add ons. Firefox has a document
reading feature that blind people can use. I tried using a Chrome
add on for this purpose and I couldn't use it. I don't know if
there are other Chrome add ons that implement this feature.

It appears to me that Chrome hasn't even put short cut commands on
some or many of its menu items. That sore of thing is and has been
standard since the mid-nineties.


Gene

*From:*P. Otter <mailto:pam.otter@gmail.com>

*Sent:*Friday, May 20, 2016 11:54 AM

*To:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

*Subject:*Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that
aren't links

ofr me it's the same!

chrome is in the most situations nice and quick, more than most
other browsers.

google has made accessibility extentions it is recommanded to
install for example the extention that let you navigate with the
arrow keys.

cheers

paul otter

----- Original Message -----

*From:*Bobby <mailto:bvinton@optonline.net>

*To:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

*Sent:*Friday, May 20, 2016 6:36 PM

*Subject:*Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links
that aren't links

Hay very good news google crome is now accessible as well. I
now use it as my default browser

On 5/20/2016 12:32 PM, Peter Beasley wrote:

That browser is not fully accessible. Use internet
explorer or Mozilla firefox.

*From:*ken lawrence via Groups.io
<mailto:kenlawrence124=aol.com@groups.io>

*Sent:*Friday, May 20, 2016 4:16 PM

*To:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

*Subject:*[nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links
that aren't links

Hi listers ken here have a vexing problem. on two local
radio stations namely WOLD-lp, and WMGQ in NJ I can’t seem
to find the listen live. on WOLD the problem is simpler.
the listen live appears as a heading, but not as a link,
clickable graphic or button just the words listen live.
this is the only way to listen to the station without
tunein radio since they have change from a winamp based
stream to a flash based popup player. they have changed
stream providors. what must they do to make there stream
appear as a link and not just the words listen live? then
on Magic 98.3 the problem is even stranger. in order to
listen to all greater-media owned stations you must
register for their listener clubs. in the case of magic
98.3 additionally you are only able to listen to them if
you live in NJ, Pa area. same with active rock station
WDHA in dover NJ. must assume the same condition is true
with WRAT the jersey shore based rocker. I have tried on
three different browsers to log into the station and the
listen live is nowhere. no button, no links, no
graphics. there are listen links connected to
interviews/features but not the stream. didn’t try the
word play but no play buttons exist then just now using
the edge browser with NVDA clearly hit the letter f found
the edit field, but when entered the stupid site thought
Oh you searched for your email address, sorry no such
thing. so edge is obviously out since NVDA can’t seem to
focus on the right edit field. so my question is this,
how do I advise the webmasters of both radio stations?
especially magic 98.3 since I’m technically a music club
member? the websites for both are www.woldradio.com
<http://www.woldradio.com>; for oldies 107.9 and
www.magic983.com <http://www.magic983.com>; for WMGQ.
perhaps someone with partial sight can advise on this
one. is it a fix on my end possibly?


Re: NVDA does not say "copied to clipboard"

Brian's Mail list account BY <bglists@...>
 

This is surely an add on is it not? Maybe its been corrupted in some way. Of course its not real is it its a fake to make it seem like its done it.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Hendrik Steyn" <groothendrik.steyn@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 7:38 AM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA does not say "copied to clipboard"


Hi all

I suddenly realised NVDA does not say "Copied to clipboard" or "cut to clipboard" any more when I perform these actions. Why does this happen and is it possible to make it say this again? It does not bother me much, but I was just curious.

Kindest
Hendrik


Re: New Member

Chris
 

Welcome Jolene.

Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jolene
Cardenas
Sent: 22 May 2016 03:47
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] New Member

Hello everyone,

I just joined this group a week or so ago, and I'm visually-impaired and
from Honolulu, Hawaii.
More importantly, I had started using NVDA during the summer of 2015 and to
this day I find that I like it far better than JAWS, the latter which I had
used since the late 90's. In february of this year, I got a new Asus laptop
that has Windows 10 Home as its operating system.

The main reason why I had joined this group is to be in touch with other
users of NVDA with Windows 10, because I had used Windows 7 Professional
before I had to teach myself how to use Windows 10. It's still a struggle
for me, so I could sure use some feedback!

Take care, and have a good day.

sincerely,

Jolene.


Re: This is your soon to retire moderator speaking: thread locked for now: browsing with edge,

 

Hi everyone,
It appears either we were too passionate about our arguments, or passing around our experiences and stories from various places. To protect the list from possible flame wars, this thread will be locked until an arbitration hearing takes place. Anyone involved in this thread, please contact Nimer, Gene and I at nvda+owner@groups.io so one of us can schedule an arbitration hearing.
Once you are invited to this hearing (or choose to attend this), please abide by these rules:
* Please be respectful when presenting your case and/or defending your position and conduct.
* Please listen to the other side before responding.
* Please do NOT respond to further messages in this thread during arbitration hearing (hence the locked flag). We'll return to the regularly scheduled program in this thread once this hearing is over.
* The moderators will try our best to be impartial and will ensure speedy process.
* In case a decision is made, you will be able to appeal it. Due to the nature of this conversation, I think this will not warrant membership moderation.
Thank you for your cooperation.
Sincerely,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christopher Hallsworth
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 11:51 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,

DOn’t worry, I am sick and tired of these comments too. I have a Windows 10 laptop to mess about on, upgraded from Windows 7, and it works fine yet it is at least five years old. Please, for goodness sake, stop discouraging those who wish to upgrade or buy a Windows 10 PC. Cheers.
On 21 May 2016, at 21:28, Lino Morales <linomorales001@gmail.com> wrote:

Just because Edge isn't yet accessible to us screen readers yet doesn't mean WIN 10 is not bad. I'm actually getting sick and tired of seeing comments like this on this list. Just because 1 piece of software doesn't work don't mean the whole OS is crap. Grow up you all and do your research befor upgrading or buying a WIN 10 PC.


On 5/20/2016 5:31 PM, Peter Beasley wrote:
Sounds like another reason not to upgrade to windows 10.

From: Gene
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 10:03 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,

There are certain things that only work with Edge regardless of whether you had a choice before. Recently, Microsoft made certain things use Edge regardless of what is set as the default browser. There may only be two of these things. I know one had something to do with search, perhaps searching somehow in the start menu. Whatever the case, if you set another browser as the default and something brings up Edge, then you probably have no choice but to do whatever you want to do directly from within the browser you want to use.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Pascal Lambert
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,

Greetings,
I find Edge very slow, it takes few mins to have voice feedback when it is launched. I tried to get rid of it and make Firefox the default but it comes back in certain situations. Is there a way to completely disabled it? I prefer using Firefox even though lately it is having problem with Flash player acting strangely. Any suggestions on these issues is greatly appreciated.
Many thanks
Blessings
Pascal

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't
links

There is more than just speed to consider. Firefox still uses a different interface and it is a more convenient interface. Chrome shows all sorts of things such as history and settings as web pages. Firefox has a lot more add ons. Firefox has a document reading feature that blind people can use. I tried using a Chrome add on for this purpose and I couldn't use it. I don't know if there are other Chrome add ons that implement this feature.
It appears to me that Chrome hasn't even put short cut commands on some or many of its menu items. That sore of thing is and has been standard since the mid-nineties.

Gene

From: P. Otter
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 11:54 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't
links

ofr me it's the same!
chrome is in the most situations nice and quick, more than most other browsers.
google has made accessibility extentions it is recommanded to install for example the extention that let you navigate with the arrow keys.
cheers
paul otter

----- Original Message -----
From: Bobby
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't
links

Hay very good news google crome is now accessible as well. I now use
it as my default browser


On 5/20/2016 12:32 PM, Peter Beasley wrote:
That browser is not fully accessible. Use internet explorer or Mozilla firefox.

From: ken lawrence via Groups.io
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 4:16 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't
links

Hi listers ken here have a vexing problem. on two local radio stations namely WOLD-lp, and WMGQ in NJ I can’t seem to find the listen live. on WOLD the problem is simpler. the listen live appears as a heading, but not as a link, clickable graphic or button just the words listen live. this is the only way to listen to the station without tunein radio since they have change from a winamp based stream to a flash based popup player. they have changed stream providors. what must they do to make there stream appear as a link and not just the words listen live? then on Magic 98.3 the problem is even stranger. in order to listen to all greater-media owned stations you must register for their listener clubs. in the case of magic 98.3 additionally you are only able to listen to them if you live in NJ, Pa area. same with active rock station WDHA in dover NJ. must assume the same condition is true with WRAT the jersey shore based rocker. I have tried on three different browsers to log into the station and the listen live is nowhere. no button, no links, no graphics. there are listen links connected to interviews/features but not the stream. didn’t try the word play but no play buttons exist then just now using the edge browser with NVDA clearly hit the letter f found the edit field, but when entered the stupid site thought Oh you searched for your email address, sorry no such thing. so edge is obviously out since NVDA can’t seem to focus on the right edit field. so my question is this, how do I advise the webmasters of both radio stations? especially magic 98.3 since I’m technically a music club member? the websites for both are www.woldradio.com for oldies 107.9 and www.magic983.com for WMGQ. perhaps someone with partial sight can advise on this one. is it a fix on my end possibly?


Re: New Member (5)

 

Hello Jolene,
Welcome to NVDA list.
Some of the well-known programs are Audacity, GoldWave, Sound Forge and others (I personally use GoldWave for producing podcasts, and I'm the author of the GoldWave NVDA add-on and am also serving as the head list rep of a dedicated Windows 10 group).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jolene Cardenas
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 12:12 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New Member (5)

Hello once more,

Thank you for your responses, for I enjoyed reading them a lot!

Further specs: My Web browser is the latest version of Firefox (even though a sighted friend told me that Google Chrome was better), my default media player is Windows Media Player 12 (not The Groove Music from Windows 10), and Gmail is the only e-mail source I use. Since Windows 10 doesn't come with the Sound Recorder program like how previous versions of Windows does, I'm missing it a lot because I use it for Podcasting and other projects. Can any Windows 10 user recommend any sound-recording program that would work well with it + NVDA? I'd appreciate your feedback so much.

Just FYI: I have no usable vision in both eyes to read large print so I'm totally dependent on NVDA to do all my reading out loud for me.

Take care, and have a good day.

sincerely,

Jolene.


Re: New Member (5)

Jolene Cardenas
 

Hello once more,

Thank you for your responses, for I enjoyed reading them a lot!

Further specs: My Web browser is the latest version of Firefox (even
though a sighted friend told me that Google Chrome was better), my
default media player is Windows Media Player 12 (not The Groove Music
from Windows 10), and Gmail is the only e-mail source I use. Since
Windows 10 doesn't come with the Sound Recorder program like how
previous versions of Windows does, I'm missing it a lot because I use
it for Podcasting and other projects. Can any Windows 10 user
recommend any sound-recording program that would work well with it +
NVDA? I'd appreciate your feedback so much.

Just FYI: I have no usable vision in both eyes to read large print so
I'm totally dependent on NVDA to do all my reading out loud for me.

Take care, and have a good day.

sincerely,

Jolene.


Re: browsing with edge,

christopher hallsworth <challsworth2@...>
 

DOn’t worry, I am sick and tired of these comments too. I have a Windows 10 laptop to mess about on, upgraded from Windows 7, and it works fine yet it is at least five years old. Please, for goodness sake, stop discouraging those who wish to upgrade or buy a Windows 10 PC. Cheers.

On 21 May 2016, at 21:28, Lino Morales <linomorales001@gmail.com> wrote:

Just because Edge isn't yet accessible to us screen readers yet doesn't mean WIN 10 is not bad. I'm actually getting sick and tired of seeing comments like this on this list. Just because 1 piece of software doesn't work don't mean the whole OS is crap. Grow up you all and do your research befor upgrading or buying a WIN 10 PC.


On 5/20/2016 5:31 PM, Peter Beasley wrote:
Sounds like another reason not to upgrade to windows 10.

From: Gene
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 10:03 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,

There are certain things that only work with Edge regardless of whether you had a choice before. Recently, Microsoft made certain things use Edge regardless of what is set as the default browser. There may only be two of these things. I know one had something to do with search, perhaps searching somehow in the start menu. Whatever the case, if you set another browser as the default and something brings up Edge, then you probably have no choice but to do whatever you want to do directly from within the browser you want to use.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Pascal Lambert
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,

Greetings,
I find Edge very slow, it takes few mins to have voice feedback when it is launched. I tried to get rid of it and make Firefox the default but it comes back in certain situations. Is there a way to completely disabled it? I prefer using Firefox even though lately it is having problem with Flash player acting strangely. Any suggestions on these issues is greatly appreciated.
Many thanks
Blessings
Pascal

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links

There is more than just speed to consider. Firefox still uses a different interface and it is a more convenient interface. Chrome shows all sorts of things such as history and settings as web pages. Firefox has a lot more add ons. Firefox has a document reading feature that blind people can use. I tried using a Chrome add on for this purpose and I couldn't use it. I don't know if there are other Chrome add ons that implement this feature.
It appears to me that Chrome hasn't even put short cut commands on some or many of its menu items. That sore of thing is and has been standard since the mid-nineties.

Gene

From: P. Otter
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 11:54 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links

ofr me it's the same!
chrome is in the most situations nice and quick, more than most other browsers.
google has made accessibility extentions it is recommanded to install for example the extention that let you navigate with the arrow keys.
cheers
paul otter

----- Original Message -----
From: Bobby
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links

Hay very good news google crome is now accessible as well. I now use it as my default browser


On 5/20/2016 12:32 PM, Peter Beasley wrote:
That browser is not fully accessible. Use internet explorer or Mozilla firefox.

From: ken lawrence via Groups.io
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 4:16 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links

Hi listers ken here have a vexing problem. on two local radio stations namely WOLD-lp, and WMGQ in NJ I can’t seem to find the listen live. on WOLD the problem is simpler. the listen live appears as a heading, but not as a link, clickable graphic or button just the words listen live. this is the only way to listen to the station without tunein radio since they have change from a winamp based stream to a flash based popup player. they have changed stream providors. what must they do to make there stream appear as a link and not just the words listen live? then on Magic 98.3 the problem is even stranger. in order to listen to all greater-media owned stations you must register for their listener clubs. in the case of magic 98.3 additionally you are only able to listen to them if you live in NJ, Pa area. same with active rock station WDHA in dover NJ. must assume the same condition is true with WRAT the jersey shore based rocker. I have tried on three different browsers to log into the station and the listen live is nowhere. no button, no links, no graphics. there are listen links connected to interviews/features but not the stream. didn’t try the word play but no play buttons exist then just now using the edge browser with NVDA clearly hit the letter f found the edit field, but when entered the stupid site thought Oh you searched for your email address, sorry no such thing. so edge is obviously out since NVDA can’t seem to focus on the right edit field. so my question is this, how do I advise the webmasters of both radio stations? especially magic 98.3 since I’m technically a music club member? the websites for both are www.woldradio.com for oldies 107.9 and www.magic983.com for WMGQ. perhaps someone with partial sight can advise on this one. is it a fix on my end possibly?


NVDA does not say "copied to clipboard"

Hendrik Steyn <groothendrik.steyn@...>
 

Hi all

I suddenly realised NVDA does not say "Copied to clipboard" or "cut to clipboard" any more when I perform these actions. Why does this happen and is it possible to make it say this again? It does not bother me much, but I was just curious.

Kindest
Hendrik


Re: browsing with edge,

 

Hmmm what are those settings pete.

On 22/05/2016 12:04 p.m., Pete wrote:

There are some settings to go directly to the desktop after boot, and
a few other settings you may find helpful. The main settings applet is
p c settings.

Pete

On 5/21/2016 6:31 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
AAh yeah I agree on search even in 7 I havn't used file search that
much unless I have a large list.
Ok so maybe I need to practice the start menu a bit more maybe I just
need to get used to it.



On 21/05/2016 9:51 p.m., Pete wrote:

hi Shaun

The apps thing is a big list of all the programs installed on your
computer. You can navigate using down and up arrow keys. Use the
application key for pinning to start screen / etc. I like the start
screen, kind of like a second desktop. I unpinned every thing from it
and just pinned what I wanted up there. I just have recycle bin on the
desktop. Recycle bin can be hidden or removed from the desktop I think.

I don't care for the file manager with the search! I mean come on how
many search boxes do we really need?

I'll even go as far as I like the start screen better than the start
menus from 98 and up. It's the greatest thing m s has done in a long
while.

Pete

On 5/21/2016 3:24 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Well to be honest, I upgraded 1 machine to 10 that I have access to.
Here is where I stand with 10.
When I do eventually upgrade I am confident that with all the advances
with features, lockscreens, and other things that I can probably use
10 at least the desktop with vary little modification to the registry.
While now that the system has done with indexing I can do single
letter search in start and it actually comes up fine.
3. I am confidant that with all the things ms has at least for the
desktop I will be fine.
5. I know some of my way round bits of the new ribbon.
6. I am sure with ribbon disabler, and classic shell I may be able to
make it look 7 like.
6. I think I am getting used to the task manager bits of action
centre and settings.
What I havn't figured out are the apps just yet or the ms account
thing.
I think in the short term if I need to I will be able to use 10
without any real issue.



On 21/05/2016 9:31 a.m., Scott VanDeWalle wrote:
i am positibve that all will be working well within the next little
bit,
as in maybe the next few official win 10 updates. Ms keeps saying by
the end of this year.
So let's all hope so.

Scott
Original message:
I found Edge very annoying, too, when I first upgraded to Windows 10.
Although I would set Firefox as default it would still popup as
settings. I tried to uninstall it but could not. I took it to a
computer shop and they at least they got rid of the settings popup. I
avoid using Cortana just because of Edge. Google is my homepage and
search engine.
On 5/20/16, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
There are certain things that only work with Edge regardless of
whether you
had a choice before. Recently, Microsoft made certain things use
Edge
regardless of what is set as the default browser. There may only be
two of
these things. I know one had something to do with search, perhaps
searching
somehow in the start menu. Whatever the case, if you set another
browser as
the default and something brings up Edge, then you probably have no
choice
but to do whatever you want to do directly from within the browser
you want
to use.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Pascal Lambert
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,

Greetings,
I find Edge very slow, it takes few mins to have voice feedback when
it is
launched. I tried to get rid of it and make Firefox the default
but it
comes back in certain situations. Is there a way to completely
disabled it?
I prefer using Firefox even though lately it is having problem with
Flash
player acting strangely. Any suggestions on these issues is greatly
appreciated.
Many thanks
Blessings
Pascal


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that
aren't
links


There is more than just speed to consider. Firefox still uses a
different
interface and it is a more convenient interface. Chrome shows all
sorts of
things such as history and settings as web pages. Firefox has a lot
more
add ons. Firefox has a document reading feature that blind people
can use.
I tried using a Chrome add on for this purpose and I couldn't use
it. I
don't know if there are other Chrome add ons that implement this
feature.
It appears to me that Chrome hasn't even put short cut commands on
some or
many of its menu items. That sore of thing is and has been standard
since
the mid-nineties.

Gene


From: P. Otter
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 11:54 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that
aren't
links


ofr me it's the same!
chrome is in the most situations nice and quick, more than most
other
browsers.
google has made accessibility extentions it is recommanded to
install
for
example the extention that let you navigate with the arrow keys.
cheers
paul otter


----- Original Message -----
From: Bobby
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that
aren't
links


Hay very good news google crome is now accessible as well. I now
use it
as my default browser


On 5/20/2016 12:32 PM, Peter Beasley wrote:
That browser is not fully accessible. Use internet explorer or
Mozilla
firefox.


From: ken lawrence via Groups.io
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 4:16 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that
aren't
links


Hi listers ken here have a vexing problem. on two local radio
stations
namely WOLD-lp, and WMGQ in NJ I can’t seem to find the listen
live. on
WOLD the problem is simpler. the listen live appears as a heading,
but not
as a link, clickable graphic or button just the words listen live.
this is
the only way to listen to the station without tunein radio since
they
have
change from a winamp based stream to a flash based popup player.
they have
changed stream providors. what must they do to make there stream
appear as
a link and not just the words listen live? then on Magic 98.3 the
problem
is even stranger. in order to listen to all greater-media owned
stations
you must register for their listener clubs. in the case of magic
98.3
additionally you are only able to listen to them if you live in NJ,
Pa area.
same with active rock station WDHA in dover NJ. must assume the
same
condition is true with WRAT the jersey shore based rocker. I have
tried on
three different browsers to log into the station and the listen
live is
nowhere. no button, no links, no graphics. there are listen links
connected to interviews/features but not the stream. didn’t try the
word
play but no play buttons exist then just now using the edge browser
with
NVDA clearly hit the letter f found the edit field, but when
entered the
stupid site thought Oh you searched for your email address, sorry no
such
thing. so edge is obviously out since NVDA can’t seem to focus on
the right
edit field. so my question is this, how do I advise the webmasters
of both
radio stations? especially magic 98.3 since I’m technically a music
club
member? the websites for both are www.woldradio.com for oldies
107.9
and
www.magic983.com for WMGQ. perhaps someone with partial sight can
advise on
this one. is it a fix on my end possibly?






--
We have probed the Earth, excavated it, burned it, ripped things from
it, buried things in it... That does not fit my definition of a good
tenant. If we were here on a month-to-month basis, we would have been
evicted long ago.
-Rose Bird






.




.


Re: New Member

Pete <emac00@...>
 

Hi Jolene

I 2 am learning windows 10 currently. Just a preference of mine, I think of the start screen as a desktop if you will, I unpin all the junk that's up there and then go in to the apps list and pin only what I want or use there. I don't care for the ribbon menus or the new file manager, on one hand it's simple to use windows 10, but then Microsoft threw in a complicated menu system, well, may be not so complicated if one can look and click on things. It reminds me of the old low powered computers that used basic HTML to access files on a main frame or some thing.

Lot's of luck to you!

Pete

On 5/21/2016 10:46 PM, Jolene Cardenas wrote:
Hello everyone,

I just joined this group a week or so ago, and I'm visually-impaired
and from Honolulu, Hawaii.
More importantly, I had started using NVDA during the summer of 2015
and to this day I find that I like it far better than JAWS, the latter
which I had used since the late 90's. In february of this year, I got
a new Asus laptop that has Windows 10 Home as its operating system.

The main reason why I had joined this group is to be in touch with
other users of NVDA with Windows 10, because I had used Windows 7
Professional before I had to teach myself how to use Windows 10. It's
still a struggle for me, so I could sure use some feedback!

Take care, and have a good day.

sincerely,

Jolene.



Re: New Member

Kenny Peyattt jr.
 

Hi jolene, welcome to the list. I will be gald to help you anwser any questions you may have about using windows 10 with nvda.

Kenny Peyatt jr.

On 5/21/2016 10:46 PM, Jolene Cardenas wrote:
Hello everyone,

I just joined this group a week or so ago, and I'm visually-impaired
and from Honolulu, Hawaii.
More importantly, I had started using NVDA during the summer of 2015
and to this day I find that I like it far better than JAWS, the latter
which I had used since the late 90's. In february of this year, I got
a new Asus laptop that has Windows 10 Home as its operating system.

The main reason why I had joined this group is to be in touch with
other users of NVDA with Windows 10, because I had used Windows 7
Professional before I had to teach myself how to use Windows 10. It's
still a struggle for me, so I could sure use some feedback!

Take care, and have a good day.

sincerely,

Jolene.


Re: New Member

Chris Shook <chris0309@...>
 

Hi Jolene,
Welcome to the group. I can't offer any information on Windows 10, but I'll offer any help I can.
Chris


Re: New Member

Lino Morales
 

Aloha miss Jolene. We are more than happy to help. I've been using NVDA full time since 2011. If you need help ask.

On 5/21/2016 10:46 PM, Jolene Cardenas wrote:
Hello everyone,

I just joined this group a week or so ago, and I'm visually-impaired
and from Honolulu, Hawaii.
More importantly, I had started using NVDA during the summer of 2015
and to this day I find that I like it far better than JAWS, the latter
which I had used since the late 90's. In february of this year, I got
a new Asus laptop that has Windows 10 Home as its operating system.

The main reason why I had joined this group is to be in touch with
other users of NVDA with Windows 10, because I had used Windows 7
Professional before I had to teach myself how to use Windows 10. It's
still a struggle for me, so I could sure use some feedback!

Take care, and have a good day.

sincerely,

Jolene.


New Member

Jolene Cardenas
 

Hello everyone,

I just joined this group a week or so ago, and I'm visually-impaired
and from Honolulu, Hawaii.
More importantly, I had started using NVDA during the summer of 2015
and to this day I find that I like it far better than JAWS, the latter
which I had used since the late 90's. In february of this year, I got
a new Asus laptop that has Windows 10 Home as its operating system.

The main reason why I had joined this group is to be in touch with
other users of NVDA with Windows 10, because I had used Windows 7
Professional before I had to teach myself how to use Windows 10. It's
still a struggle for me, so I could sure use some feedback!

Take care, and have a good day.

sincerely,

Jolene.


Re: browsing with edge,

Lino Morales
 

Gene dude there is no such thing as privacy anymore unless you go ahead and snip off your ethernet CAT5 cable or turn off wifi which means you are offline. Don't know how or really care how MS collects my INFO and use on my WIN 10 PC. I do however hope they can emplement user CTRL in installing updates. Only choices we have now is setting WIN t to download updates if you hyave a metered connection which I don't or automatically update. I know some people are anal about what's being updated.


On 5/21/2016 9:10 PM, Gene wrote:
I hope you read my previous message.  Are you aware of the concerns I've discussed as well as others I haven't?  Maybe you shouldn't be so quick to attack those who have valid well-thought-out reasons not to upgrade.  I see nothing in Windows 10 that I want enough to cause me to spend the time and the possible unforeseen problems, to update.  I'll get Windows 10 in the same way I've3 gotten earlier versions of Windows.  When I purchase a new computer with Windows 10 on it.  Also, keep in mind that Microsoft isn't giving away Windows 10 because it is an altruistic company.  They are giving it away so they can make more money from users in various ways.  I'm not saying this is not a reason to use Windows 10 but I find it offensivbe that Microsoft uses Windows 10, I don't recall just where, perhaps on the desktop, perhaps on the start menu, to show advertisements.  there are reasons to use Windows 10 and reasons not to do so. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 6:54 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,

Amen to that, Lino. Some people need to grow up and act like adults.

Rosemarie



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lino Morales
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 1:29 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,

Just because Edge isn't yet accessible to us screen readers yet doesn't mean WIN 10 is not bad. I'm actually getting sick and tired of seeing comments like this on this list. Just because 1 piece of software doesn't work don't mean the whole OS is crap. Grow up you all and do your research befor upgrading or buying a WIN 10 PC.



On 5/20/2016 5:31 PM, Peter Beasley wrote:


Sounds like another reason not to upgrade to windows  10.

From: Gene <mailto:gsasner@...>
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 10:03 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,

There are certain things that only work with Edge regardless of whether you had a choice before.  Recently, Microsoft made certain things use Edge regardless of what is set as the default browser.  There may only be two of these things.  I know one had something to do with search, perhaps searching somehow in the start menu.  Whatever the case, if you set another browser as the default and something brings up Edge, then you probably have no choice but to do whatever you want to do directly from within the browser you want to use.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Pascal Lambert <mailto:casablanca_31@...>
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,


Greetings,

I find Edge very slow, it takes few mins to have voice feedback when it is launched.  I tried to get rid of it and make Firefox the default but it comes back in certain situations.  Is there a way to completely disabled it?  I prefer using Firefox even though lately it is having problem with Flash player acting strangely.  Any suggestions on these issues is greatly appreciated.

Many thanks

Blessings

Pascal



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>  [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links



There is more than just speed to consider.  Firefox still uses a different interface and it is a more convenient interface.  Chrome shows all sorts of things such as history and settings as web pages.  Firefox has a lot more add ons.  Firefox has a document reading feature that blind people can use.  I tried using a Chrome add on for this purpose and I couldn't use it.  I don't know if there are other Chrome add ons that implement this feature.

It appears to me that Chrome hasn't even put short cut commands on some or many of its menu items.  That sore of thing is and has been standard since the mid-nineties.


Gene



From: P. Otter <mailto:pam.otter@...>

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 11:54 AM

To: <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links



ofr me it's the same!

chrome is in the most situations nice and quick, more than most other browsers.

google has made accessibility extentions it is recommanded to install for example the extention that let you navigate with the arrow keys.

cheers

paul otter



----- Original Message -----

From: Bobby <mailto:bvinton@...>

To: <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 6:36 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links



Hay very good news google crome is now accessible as well.  I now use it as my default browser



On 5/20/2016 12:32 PM, Peter Beasley wrote:

That browser is not fully accessible. Use internet explorer or Mozilla firefox.



From: ken lawrence via Groups.io <mailto:kenlawrence124@...>

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 4:16 PM

To: <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Subject: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links



Hi listers ken here have a vexing problem.  on two local radio stations namely WOLD-lp, and WMGQ in NJ I can’t seem to find the listen live.  on WOLD the problem is simpler.  the listen live appears as a heading, but not as a link, clickable graphic or button just the words listen live.  this is the only way to listen to the station without tunein radio since they have change from a winamp based stream to a flash based popup player.  they have changed stream providors.  what must they do to make there stream appear as a link and not just the words listen live?  then on Magic 98.3 the problem is even stranger.  in order to listen to all greater-media owned stations you must register for their listener clubs.  in the case of magic 98.3 additionally you are only able to listen to them if you live in NJ, Pa area.  same with active rock station WDHA in dover NJ.  must assume the same condition is true with WRAT the jersey shore based rocker.  I have tried on three different browsers to log into the station and the listen live is nowhere.  no button, no links, no graphics.  there are listen links connected to interviews/features but not the stream.  didn’t try the word play but no play buttons exist then just now using the edge browser with NVDA clearly hit the letter f found the edit field, but when entered the stupid site thought Oh you searched for your email address, sorry no such thing.  so edge is obviously out since NVDA can’t seem to focus on the right edit field.  so my question is this, how do I advise the webmasters of both radio stations?  especially magic 98.3 since I’m technically a music club member?  the websites for both are <http://www.woldradio.com> www.woldradio.com <http://www.woldradio.com>  for oldies 107.9 and <http://www.magic983.com> www.magic983.com <http://www.magic983.com>  for WMGQ.  perhaps someone with partial sight can advise on this one.  is it a fix on my end possibly?