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Re: A suggestion for the next NVDA release

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In some circumstances a linkmight not appear in the tab order but wil when you use k instead. No I have no idea why, but I suggest tis authoring errors when the page was written.
Brian

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From: "Casey" <cwollner@wi.rr.com>
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Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2016 5:08 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] A suggestion for the next NVDA release


Hi when I am on A web page I just use the letter H when going from heading to heading.
And of course the tab key when going from link to link.


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Re: Outlook 2016

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I'd have thought if it is not unread it is actually read by default, whot other state can it be in?
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From: "Pranav Lal" <pranav.lal@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2016 1:26 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Outlook 2016


Ralf,

I am using Outlook 2016. I am told when a message is unread. However, I am not
told when it is read. One shot in the dark, Check your view settings; Are
status flags visible?

Pranav

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ralph
Boersema
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 6:40 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Outlook 2016

Dear Folks,

I admit that I don't regularly read these list messages and, therefore, probably
missed reading an earlier exchange about this topic. I have just updated to
Office 2016 and find that in Outlook NVDA does not read to me whether a message
is marked as read or unread. Is there some setting I need to change in Outlook?

Warmly,
Ralph






Re: Blank messages from Freelists

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I seem to recall it was mostly unrecognised character sets or encoding that caused it before. It still happens sometimes, notably when somebody uses Linux based email software but sometimes merely changing the default character coding can make it work. its not only on a freelists list, its any list or any content from email messages that can be affected.

it is now a lot less common as people aware learning how to stop it happening at send time I imagine.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Cearbhall O'Meadhra" <cearbhall.omeadhra@blbc.ie>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 11:46 PM
Subject: [nvda] Blank messages from Freelists


Hi,



During the past year there was some discussion about some emails coming from
freelists with a blank message body.



This is happening again and I cannot find the solutions which were presented
earlier.



I have found the Microsoft instructions to stop security add-ins in Outlook
that have prevented the deletion of the message body under whatever
unexplained conditions applied at the time. I do not have any of the
mentioned add-ins which include AVG. It appears that Outlook may be the
culprit. Any advice?



I am using Windows 10, outlook 2016 and NVDA 2016.3 on a desktop PC.





All the best,



Cearbhall



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Re: Scrolling in Adobe Reader

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Sometimes there is a gap though and nvda will assume you got to the end if you only open one page at a time. It may well be dependent on the machine specs of course.
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From: "Cearbhall O'Meadhra" <cearbhall.omeadhra@blbc.ie>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 8:55 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Scrolling in Adobe Reader


Shirley,

I usually go to the page display menu and choose continuous reading. That seems to let NVDA keep scrolling through the pages sequentially. I can go from page to page using control+page down. In "page Navigation" you can also move from page to page and there is a "go to page "option in that menu.


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Cearbhall

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-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 8:20 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Scrolling in Adobe Reader

While using NVDA to read a large PDF file, I don't want to open all of the pages at once. However in reading one page at a time, NVDA doesn't scroll down when I get to the bottom of that page; instead it just wraps around to the top of the page again. Is there a way to stop this?


Re: Scrolling in Adobe Reader

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Not that I know of, as adobe reader does not know there are other pages as you only opened the one.
Can I ask why you do not want to open the whole document? Its pretty fast to do, or are we talking absolutely huge things like hundreds of pages here?

The restriction is more with adobe reader than anything else in myexperience, you actually have tocommand it to open the next page each time. Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "kelby carlson" <kelbycarlson@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 8:19 PM
Subject: [nvda] Scrolling in Adobe Reader


While using NVDA to read a large PDF file, I don't want to open all of
the pages at once. However in reading one page at a time, NVDA doesn't
scroll down when I get to the bottom of that page; instead it just
wraps around to the top of the page again. Is there a way to stop
this?


Re: Calm radio

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I do have issues with many stations which use reduced bit rates which either sound very gritty or have terrible phase issues like we used to get on a worn out cassette tape when it snaked across the head where it had stretched!


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----- Original Message -----
From: "Shaun Everiss" <sm.everiss@gmail.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 8:11 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Calm radio


Hmmm a lot of websites for radio are flash based and are just not that good.
One thing I use a lot which has a lot is iheart radio, just search for it by name.
Its advertised on just about every station I have here in new zealand and does a lot more.
Its free to join and its fully apped on every standard device.
Its accessible as far as I can see and the quality is slightly better than fm though it does depend on the station of choice ofcause.
For example if it is just an am station, it will be mono but the quality will be fm or slightly better with maybe a little more digital noise but still better.
I have not tried other features though.



On 19/10/2016 12:12 a.m., Георги Ламбов wrote:
A question before the answer: is that any program for listening of

radio or it's only a radioStation? Becausse I've find a webSite named:
calm radio, which radioStation proposes: jazz, relaxMusic, rock etc. Is
that the same object?
На 18.10.2016 г. в 10:52 ч., Marco Oros написа:
I don't know, where to ask It, but can somebody of You find in this
web a radio channels?

This is a Calm radio and It was accessible.

Please, try to make this accessible, if You know those programming
languages of the web pages.

Thank You!

https://calmradio.com/en





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Re: problems again with webvisum

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Is it not about time somebody sorted out the version being provided on the official update site. Surely its not rocket science, it just needs the folk doing the admin to fix it.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "P. Otter" <pam.otter@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 7:06 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] problems again with webvisum


i'm sorry, i know already the problem.
this is the solution.
when i install webvisum don't forget the update function to checket to no.
else it will be replaced with the version of firefox it self.
then you get the same problem as before.
and this was happened here.
cheers
paul otter

----- Original Message -----
From: P. Otter
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 7:56 PM
Subject: [nvda] problems again with webvisum


hello, i've tryed to install webvisum rewritten by james scholes when installed, it works
but after a few hours it stops again with the same message, (webserver connection error)
what can it be?
is webvisum now end of life?
cheers
paul otter


Re: Need Help on NVDA tool on citrix receiver

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Is this even possible? I seem to recall lots of problems with this way of working on Dolphin screenreaders mainly due to the way windows virtualisation worked, or rather did not work!
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Srividya S" <Srividya_S04@infosys.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 7:45 AM
Subject: [nvda] Need Help on NVDA tool on citrix receiver


HI Support Team,

We are performing accessibility testing using desktop browser using citrix receiver(virtual Desktop ).
The NVDA tool is not enabled using ctrl+alt +N and unable to perform testing. Kindly help on the issue

Thanks,
Srividya.S
Mobile no: 9176452930


can't find team viewer

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, everyone,


I know for a fact that team view is on this computer but I can't find it. I typed it in the start search box and it didn't work. Couldn't find it except in the programs and features. I don't know whaqt to do! This computer is brand-new and I'm having problems with it.


Rosemarie


Re: A suggestion for the next NVDA release

Casey <cwollner@...>
 

Hi when I am on A web page I just use the letter H when going from heading to heading.
And of course the tab key when going from link to link.


--
Casey


Re: A suggestion for the next NVDA release

Quentin Christensen
 

Good point. I think that's not what the original poster had in mind, but definitely relevant to the discussion - for anyone unsure, if you open the Document Formatting dialog with NVDA+control+d, the options for Report links, report headings, report landmarks etc, will control whether these titles are announced as the appropriate elements are encountered in a document.

In my previous example for instance, if you turned off reporting of headings and links, NVDA would simply read:

Search results
NVDA

Which would certainly be challenging if you weren't familiar with the page, although using "K" for instance, you would at least know which was a link.

Regards

Quentin.

On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 2:05 PM, Alexander Masic <list@...> wrote:

there is an option were you can turn off anounsment of heading, landmarks, frames and so on....   but still jump betwean them. I turn them on, because regularey i don't mnead them to be anoused. And then if i nead, it's easy to turn them on again.

    .



Den 2016-10-19 kl. 04:46, skrev Quentin Christensen:
Hi Casey,

Currently, when navigating around a web page, if using say all (NVDA+down arrow / NVDA+a) or using the arrows, NVDA will announce the type of element, and then the element text, eg:

Heading level 2: Search results
Heading level 3, link: NVDA

If using TAB, or single letter navigation keys, such as H or 1, 2, 3, or shift+h etc to move to headings, or k to move to links, NVDA reads:

Search results, heading level 2
NVDA, link, heading level 3.

If you are pressing "3" to move between heading level 3 items (such as search results in Google), the assumption would be that you know each element you get to will be a heading level 3, and therefore it saves time to read the heading itself first before reiterating that it is a heading level 3.  If you are using say all or pressing down arrow, you won't necessarily know what kind of element the focus will move to next and whether, or how, you can interact with it.

Does that work how you wanted?  Or, how are you navigating?

Kind regards

Quentin.


On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 12:57 PM, Casey <cwollner@...> wrote:
Hi I woudl like to have the way to adjust when going threw web pages with heading you can hear the word heading 1 and then what the heading is.
and then hear heading 2 and the title of it.
Instead of hear what the heading is and then hearing heading one.
And then it would also be nice to be able to change the hearing the word link when going threw web pages first.
Instead of hearing what the link is and then hearing the word link after that.
So maybe if those selections can be added in to the next release that would be nice.


--
Casey






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Re: A suggestion for the next NVDA release

Alexander Masic
 

there is an option were you can turn off anounsment of heading, landmarks, frames and so on....   but still jump betwean them. I turn them on, because regularey i don't mnead them to be anoused. And then if i nead, it's easy to turn them on again.

    .



Den 2016-10-19 kl. 04:46, skrev Quentin Christensen:

Hi Casey,

Currently, when navigating around a web page, if using say all (NVDA+down arrow / NVDA+a) or using the arrows, NVDA will announce the type of element, and then the element text, eg:

Heading level 2: Search results
Heading level 3, link: NVDA

If using TAB, or single letter navigation keys, such as H or 1, 2, 3, or shift+h etc to move to headings, or k to move to links, NVDA reads:

Search results, heading level 2
NVDA, link, heading level 3.

If you are pressing "3" to move between heading level 3 items (such as search results in Google), the assumption would be that you know each element you get to will be a heading level 3, and therefore it saves time to read the heading itself first before reiterating that it is a heading level 3.  If you are using say all or pressing down arrow, you won't necessarily know what kind of element the focus will move to next and whether, or how, you can interact with it.

Does that work how you wanted?  Or, how are you navigating?

Kind regards

Quentin.


On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 12:57 PM, Casey <cwollner@...> wrote:
Hi I woudl like to have the way to adjust when going threw web pages with heading you can hear the word heading 1 and then what the heading is.
and then hear heading 2 and the title of it.
Instead of hear what the heading is and then hearing heading one.
And then it would also be nice to be able to change the hearing the word link when going threw web pages first.
Instead of hearing what the link is and then hearing the word link after that.
So maybe if those selections can be added in to the next release that would be nice.


--
Casey






--
Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Direct: +61 413 904 383
www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 



Re: A suggestion for the next NVDA release

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Casey,

Currently, when navigating around a web page, if using say all (NVDA+down arrow / NVDA+a) or using the arrows, NVDA will announce the type of element, and then the element text, eg:

Heading level 2: Search results
Heading level 3, link: NVDA

If using TAB, or single letter navigation keys, such as H or 1, 2, 3, or shift+h etc to move to headings, or k to move to links, NVDA reads:

Search results, heading level 2
NVDA, link, heading level 3.

If you are pressing "3" to move between heading level 3 items (such as search results in Google), the assumption would be that you know each element you get to will be a heading level 3, and therefore it saves time to read the heading itself first before reiterating that it is a heading level 3.  If you are using say all or pressing down arrow, you won't necessarily know what kind of element the focus will move to next and whether, or how, you can interact with it.

Does that work how you wanted?  Or, how are you navigating?

Kind regards

Quentin.


On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 12:57 PM, Casey <cwollner@...> wrote:
Hi I woudl like to have the way to adjust when going threw web pages with heading you can hear the word heading 1 and then what the heading is.
and then hear heading 2 and the title of it.
Instead of hear what the heading is and then hearing heading one.
And then it would also be nice to be able to change the hearing the word link when going threw web pages first.
Instead of hearing what the link is and then hearing the word link after that.
So maybe if those selections can be added in to the next release that would be nice.


--
Casey






--
Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Direct: +61 413 904 383
www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


A suggestion for the next NVDA release

Casey <cwollner@...>
 

Hi I woudl like to have the way to adjust when going threw web pages with heading you can hear the word heading 1 and then what the heading is.
and then hear heading 2 and the title of it.
Instead of hear what the heading is and then hearing heading one.
And then it would also be nice to be able to change the hearing the word link when going threw web pages first.
Instead of hearing what the link is and then hearing the word link after that.
So maybe if those selections can be added in to the next release that would be nice.


--
Casey


Re: Outlook 2016

Pranav Lal
 

Ralf,

I am using Outlook 2016. I am told when a message is unread. However, I am not
told when it is read. One shot in the dark, Check your view settings; Are
status flags visible?

Pranav

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ralph
Boersema
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 6:40 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Outlook 2016

Dear Folks,

I admit that I don't regularly read these list messages and, therefore, probably
missed reading an earlier exchange about this topic. I have just updated to
Office 2016 and find that in Outlook NVDA does not read to me whether a message
is marked as read or unread. Is there some setting I need to change in Outlook?

Warmly,
Ralph


Blank messages from Freelists

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Hi,

 

During the past year there was some discussion about some emails coming from freelists with a blank message body.

 

This is happening again and I cannot find the solutions which were presented earlier.

 

I have found the Microsoft instructions to stop security add-ins in Outlook that have prevented the deletion of the message body under whatever unexplained conditions applied at the time. I do not have any of the mentioned add-ins which include AVG. It appears that Outlook may be the culprit. Any advice?

 

I am using Windows 10, outlook 2016 and NVDA 2016.3 on a desktop PC.

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 

 


Re: Scrolling in Adobe Reader

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Shirley,

I usually go to the page display menu and choose continuous reading. That seems to let NVDA keep scrolling through the pages sequentially. I can go from page to page using control+page down. In "page Navigation" you can also move from page to page and there is a "go to page "option in that menu.


All the best,

Cearbhall

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Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 8:20 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Scrolling in Adobe Reader

While using NVDA to read a large PDF file, I don't want to open all of the pages at once. However in reading one page at a time, NVDA doesn't scroll down when I get to the bottom of that page; instead it just wraps around to the top of the page again. Is there a way to stop this?


Scrolling in Adobe Reader

kelby carlson
 

While using NVDA to read a large PDF file, I don't want to open all of
the pages at once. However in reading one page at a time, NVDA doesn't
scroll down when I get to the bottom of that page; instead it just
wraps around to the top of the page again. Is there a way to stop
this?


Re: Calm radio

 

Well as long as they have a streaming link your standard media player should pick it.
asc/asx is windows media player.
m3u/pls is winamp or general playback.
see what you can do, you may for example have to find the link for overseas or mobile phones or something to get an actual playable streaming link rather than your web player, but after that you should be able to just load and it runs.

On 19/10/2016 12:24 a.m., Георги Ламбов wrote:
I've just walked through the website and find it quite accessible for
screen readers. My problem here is, that it's useless for me, becausse
they don't propose possibilities for desktop or I understood this in
this way.

Georgi


На 18.10.2016 г. в 14:12 ч., Георги Ламбов написа:
A question before the answer: is that any program for listening of

radio or it's only a radioStation? Becausse I've find a webSite named:
calm radio, which radioStation proposes: jazz, relaxMusic, rock etc.
Is that the same object?
На 18.10.2016 г. в 10:52 ч., Marco Oros написа:
I don't know, where to ask It, but can somebody of You find in this
web a radio channels?

This is a Calm radio and It was accessible.

Please, try to make this accessible, if You know those programming
languages of the web pages.

Thank You!

https://calmradio.com/en








Re: Calm radio

 

Hmmm a lot of websites for radio are flash based and are just not that good.
One thing I use a lot which has a lot is iheart radio, just search for it by name.
Its advertised on just about every station I have here in new zealand and does a lot more.
Its free to join and its fully apped on every standard device.
Its accessible as far as I can see and the quality is slightly better than fm though it does depend on the station of choice ofcause.
For example if it is just an am station, it will be mono but the quality will be fm or slightly better with maybe a little more digital noise but still better.
I have not tried other features though.

On 19/10/2016 12:12 a.m., Георги Ламбов wrote:
A question before the answer: is that any program for listening of

radio or it's only a radioStation? Becausse I've find a webSite named:
calm radio, which radioStation proposes: jazz, relaxMusic, rock etc. Is
that the same object?
На 18.10.2016 г. в 10:52 ч., Marco Oros написа:
I don't know, where to ask It, but can somebody of You find in this
web a radio channels?

This is a Calm radio and It was accessible.

Please, try to make this accessible, if You know those programming
languages of the web pages.

Thank You!

https://calmradio.com/en





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