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Re: Windows 10 shortcuts to items

Brian's Mail list account BY <bglists@...>
 

Yes but I want them in a list as per a folder, not in some kind of tree view. This seems almost impossible to fix in this so called easy to access system.

Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe Hunter" <joehunter@blueyonder.co.uk>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 10:29 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 shortcuts to items


On 22/05/2016 10:10, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
I'm looking to make simpler some things in 10. I find having to search for stuff long winded and also access via a huge tree of interconnected dialogues is also a bit slow.
For example, how can one get to just a list of drives on the computer, how can one get to the main screen of windows defender to do manual scans.
These are just two of the things I can do in windows 7, very easily, but seem to be very irritatingly awkward on 10.
I have found the sound level of running programs dialogue and put a shortcut to it, and this works, but in many cases in 10, despite classic shell, and being an admin, I get blocked by you are not allowed to do this or that, but when it is accessed via loads of menues links and whatever, it goes there quite happily.
I seldom myself use start menu, preferring to get things either ron the desktop or to put a folder of the shortcuts on the desktop. This saves a lot of messing about in searches and scrolling up and down start menus to find its been listed under some daft letter rather than the logical one.
Brian

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listing your drives. press enter on this computer. and you will find a list of drives at the bottom. Joe



Re: Suggestions for sound recording programs: was, New Member (5)

Jolene Cardenas
 

Gene, thank you for changing the subject line from "Re: New Member" to
this one.
As I was reading the responses and the responses TO responses, I got
so confused that, in the end, I asked myself,

"What does sound recorders have to do with new member?"

Thank you so much for the change of subject!

sincerely,

Jolene.


Re: Suggestions for sound recording programs: was, New Member (5)

Brian's Mail list account BY <bglists@...>
 

Chuckle... I know what you mean, I now do not know where this started to read back to.
I still use old version of Goldwave, but there are quite a few and I'd advocate seeing which one suites your needs best and is built the way you want it to be. I did try Audacity, but found the project and all that stuff a bit too awkward when I needed to bring in and edit existing files quickly.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Lino Morales" <linomorales001@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 1:39 AM
Subject: Re: Suggestions for sound recording programs: was, [nvda] New Member (5)


Yes mommy. LOL I should have changed it myself.


On 5/22/2016 8:22 PM, Gene wrote:
Also, will people please change subject lines when the thread changes
to the point where it has nothing to do with the original subject.
The subject line still says new member and the discussion is now about
audio recorders. I'm not saying that people should change subject
lines if the topic still is reasonably related to the original but
this isn't even remotely related.
I am changing the subject line in this thread with this message.
Gene

*From:* Gene <mailto:gsasner@ripco.com>
*Sent:* Sunday, May 22, 2016 7:15 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] New Member (5)

If the sound recorder program in Windows 10 is like the one in Windows
7, it's almost worthless. In the Windows 7 program, you can't edit
and it records in the MP3 format as I recall. I know you can't choose
formats and I know it’s a lossy format. Whether ogg or MP3, its so
limited that it's more like a toy.
I don't recall if it even has a pause button and if it resumes
recording or overwrites the file if you stop and start it. What
program did you used to use? If you used the old XP sound recorder,
that may still work in Windows 10. I got it to work in Windows 7. I
can suggest programs to use to create a podcast file and edit it. For
example, you might use a program I have to record the podcast file and
then edit with Mp3 Direct Cut. Both programs will produce MP3 files
but, for reasons I won't go into now, it's better to use one program I
can discuss for editing and MP3 Direct Cut for editing.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Pranav Lal <mailto:pranav.lal@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Sunday, May 22, 2016 7:02 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] New Member (5)

Hi,

The sound recorder in Windows 10 is called voice recorder. Search for
it by using the search feature which you can access by pressing
ctrl+escape. It is accessible.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jolene Cardenas
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 12:42 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] New Member (5)

Hello once more,

Thank you for your responses, for I enjoyed reading them a lot!

Further specs: My Web browser is the latest version of Firefox (even
though a sighted friend told me that Google Chrome was better), my
default media player is Windows Media Player 12 (not The Groove Music
from Windows 10), and Gmail is the only e-mail source I use. Since
Windows 10 doesn't come with the Sound Recorder program like how
previous versions of Windows does, I'm missing it a lot because I use
it for Podcasting and other projects. Can any Windows 10 user
recommend any sound-recording program that would work well with it +
NVDA? I'd appreciate your feedback so much.

Just FYI: I have no usable vision in both eyes to read large print so
I'm totally dependent on NVDA to do all my reading out loud for me.

Take care, and have a good day.

sincerely,

Jolene.







Re: Windows 10 shortcuts to items

Mr. Wong Chi Wai <cwwong.pro@...>
 

try using autohotkey



Brian Vogel 於 22/5/2016 22:07 寫道:

You've answered your own question, largely, in your thread title.  One can set up desktop shortcuts quite easily to virtually any app or application (settings are a different matter).  If you prefer the old Control Panel for most settings it's available and you can put a shortcut to it on your desktop.

I am annoyed that the "Send to -> Desktop (Create Shortcut)" method is no longer supported from the search results, but the extra step of "Open file location" (which opens the folder containing the program/app, with said program/app already selected) then doing the "send to -> desktop (create shortcut)" works just fine.

The "This PC" file explorer window (for lack of a better way of putting it - it's largely the same as the old "My Computer" window) shows your drives and you can do layout tweaking there.
 
Brian
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Never underestimate the difficulty of changing false beliefs by facts. 
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Re: Suggestions for sound recording programs: was, New Member (5)

Gene
 

A great deal of the use of Audacity doesn't require scripts.  You may well find that you can do what you want without them.
 
Regarding my presentation, I'll say that there may be an error in it.  I had thought that you have to save files before editing them.  If that ever was true, it isn't now.  I haven't used enter to select files or tracks so I didn't discuss that.  Indeed, that may be one reason I believed you had to save files, because I didn't know things about selection.  When I started using Audacity, selecting a track either wasn't possible from the keyboard or wasn't spoken.  That has long not been the case. 
 
In other words, others may discuss track selection here.  my tutorial will work if you follow it but if you want to edit before saving, you may need to know some things I didn't discuss.
 
My tutorial discusses both audacity and MP3 Direct cut.  You can download it here:

Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 1:29 AM
Subject: Re: Suggestions for sound recording programs: was, [nvda] New Member (5)

Hi Gene,
It would be really appreciated if you could share links to your
tutorial and other guides you mentioned that teach Audacity, even if
intended for use with JAWS. I shall adapt.
The previous audio tutorial series I had tried understanding from was
primarily using the JAWS scripts features which provide automatic
read-outs, and I was unable to find an alternative source for the same
information, despite having reviewed the screen. It was sort of a
little intimidating, to be true.
Thanks.

On 5/23/16, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
> as with so many programs, a lot of what you do are program commands.
> Audacity commands for play, record, and for editing are program commands.
> As in so many cases, if you know how to use a program, you can do a good
> deal with it regardless of screen-reader.  Many people use Gold Wave and
> Audacity with NVDA.  At times, JAWS may have scripts that allow you to do
> more or do some things more easily.  At times, NVDA may have been nodified
> to allow it to work more fully or in an automated way with a program.
> You can often learn a lot from tutorials or a written guide written for
> blind users regardless of which screen-reader they may have been written
> for.
>
> If you know your screen-readers commands such as read current line, etc. and
> how to review the screen. you can use a lot of program commands and look at
> the screen if you don't get automatic readout.
>
> I don't know what you want to do with these programs.  I did a basic
> tutorial for Audacity explaining how to edit and the basics of the program.
> the program has some new features that weren't covered and one of them might
> be very useful in editing.  But you will get a good basic knowledge of how
> to edit and play and record.  I can find a download link if you want it.
> Others may make other suggestions such as the written user Guide to the
> program with JAWS.  I believe that more advanced users may find this to be
> useful but it is very densely written, more like a manual and I think most
> beginner users are far better off using an actual tutorial with oral
> instructions and demonstrations.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Bhavya shah
> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 12:53 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: Suggestions for sound recording programs: was, [nvda] New
> Member (5)
>
>
> Hi,
> I wish there was more readily available documentation for using such
> sound recorders and audio editors with NVDA, not those which only
> record, but those which allow their modification and improvement.
> I have given up on Goldwave for the time being, and am working on
> trying to figure out Audacity with a Skype friend.
> Thanks.
>
> On 5/23/16, David Moore <jesusloves1966@...> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I would like to recommend a great sound recorder called virtual recorder.
>> It
>> is very easy to download and install, and very accessible. When you
>> launch
>> it, you can record your voice with a built in mike, record sounds
>> straight
>> from the sound card, or both. So, it does very well with recording pod
>> casts, because it records your voice great, and it records a screen
>> reader
>> directly from the sound card at the same time, so your voice and screen
>> reader come through loud and clear. There is a record button, stop,
>> pause,
>> and you can record in many formats like MP3, for example. The problem
>> with
>> Voice recorder in win10, is that you only have the choice of recording in
>> a
>> M4A format that is unique to win10. Very few players can play the files
>> that
>> you record with that program. Virtual recorder saves your recordings in a
>> folder that you choose as soon as you stop the recording. The recordings
>> are
>> so clear I have done with it, and it does not take up much room on your
>> computer. There is even a portable version that can run from a USB flash
>> drive. Just type in Virtual Recorder in your search like Google, and you
>> will get a site to download it. You may be able to download it from:
>> www.ninite.com
>> If not, just do a search for it. I absolutely love it. Take care.
>>
>>
>> From: Gene
>> Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 8:22 PM
>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: Suggestions for sound recording programs: was, [nvda] New
>> Member (5)
>>
>> Also, will people please change subject lines when the thread changes to
>> the
>> point where it has nothing to do with the original subject.  The subject
>> line still says new member and the discussion is now about audio
>> recorders.
>> I'm not saying that people should change subject lines if the topic still
>> is
>> reasonably related to the original but this isn't even remotely related.
>>
>> I am changing the subject line in this thread with this message.
>>
>> Gene
>>
>> From: Gene
>> Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 7:15 PM
>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [nvda] New Member (5)
>>
>> If the sound recorder program in Windows 10 is like the one in Windows 7,
>> it's almost worthless.  In the Windows 7 program, you can't edit and it
>> records in the MP3 format as I recall.  I know you can't choose formats
>> and
>> I know it’s a lossy format. Whether ogg or MP3, its so limited that it's
>> more like a toy.
>>
>> I don't recall if it even has a pause button and if it resumes recording
>> or
>> overwrites the file if you stop and start it.  What program did you used
>> to
>> use?  If you used the old XP sound recorder, that may still work in
>> Windows
>> 10.  I got it to work in Windows 7.  I can suggest programs to use to
>> create
>> a podcast file and edit it.  For example, you might use a program I have
>> to
>> record the podcast file and then edit with Mp3 Direct Cut.  Both programs
>> will produce MP3 files but, for reasons I won't go into now, it's better
>> to
>> use one program I can discuss for editing and MP3 Direct Cut for editing.
>>
>> Gene
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: Pranav Lal
>> Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 7:02 PM
>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [nvda] New Member (5)
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> The sound recorder in Windows 10 is called voice recorder. Search for it
>> by
>> using the search feature which you can access by pressing ctrl+escape. It
>> is
>> accessible.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
>> Jolene
>> Cardenas
>> Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 12:42 PM
>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [nvda] New Member (5)
>>
>> Hello once more,
>>
>> Thank you for your responses, for I enjoyed reading them a lot!
>>
>> Further specs: My Web browser is the latest version of Firefox (even
>> though
>> a sighted friend told me that Google Chrome was better), my default media
>> player is Windows Media Player 12 (not The Groove Music from Windows 10),
>> and Gmail is the only e-mail source I use.  Since Windows 10 doesn't come
>> with the Sound Recorder program like how previous versions of Windows
>> does,
>> I'm missing it a lot because I use it for Podcasting and other projects.
>> Can any Windows 10 user recommend any sound-recording program that would
>> work well with it + NVDA?  I'd appreciate your feedback so much.
>>
>> Just FYI: I have no usable vision in both eyes to read large print so I'm
>> totally dependent on NVDA to do all my reading out loud for me.
>>
>> Take care, and have a good day.
>>
>> sincerely,
>>
>> Jolene.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Warm Regards
> Bhavya Shah
> Using NVDA (Non Visual Desktop Access) free and open source screen
> reader for Microsoft Windows
> To download a copy of the free screen reader NVDA, please visit
> http://www.nvaccess.org/
> Using Google Talkback on Motorolla G second generation Lollipop 5.0.2
> Reach me through the following means:
> Mobile: +91 7506221750
> E-mail id: bhavya.shah125@...
> Skype id : bhavya.09
>
>
>
>


--
Warm Regards
Bhavya Shah
Using NVDA (Non Visual Desktop Access) free and open source screen
reader for Microsoft Windows
To download a copy of the free screen reader NVDA, please visit
http://www.nvaccess.org/
Using Google Talkback on Motorolla G second generation Lollipop 5.0.2
Reach me through the following means:
Mobile: +91 7506221750
E-mail id: bhavya.shah125@...
Skype id : bhavya.09




Re: Rainbow Bridge crossing

Mallard
 

Laurie,


It's so comforting to know there are people who care.


Blessings to you.

Ciao,

Ollie

Il 23/05/2016 05:43, Laurie Mehta via Groups.io ha scritto:
Ollie,
I am also sorry to hear of your guide's passing on.
That is always so hard... no matter how many guides any of us has had.
Please be good to yourself.
You're in my prayers.

And, thank you Travis, for changing the subject line-- that helped me to open the message sooner.
-Laurie

--------------------------------------------
On Sun, 5/22/16, Kwork <istherelife@gmail.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [nvda] Rainbow Bridge crossing
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Date: Sunday, May 22, 2016, 9:45 PM
Ollie, I'm very very
sorry to hear about your dog crossing the rainbow
bridge. That was very sad news for me to read.
You're in my prayers.
Travis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mallard" <mallard@kimabe.eu>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 8:13 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Weather+ NVDA add-on
required
Now that my old guide dog has gone to Rainbow
Bridge, and I no longer
have to look after
her, I'll have moer time to spend on other things,
and Weather+ will be one of them...
Ciao,
Ollie



Re: Rainbow Bridge crossing

Mallard
 

Thanks for your closeness and prayers, Travis. It's very hard; Pivi was my fifth guide dog, but she was really special. I miss her so much...

Ciao,

Ollie

Il 23/05/2016 03:45, Kwork ha scritto:
Ollie, I'm very very sorry to hear about your dog crossing the rainbow
bridge. That was very sad news for me to read. You're in my prayers.
Travis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mallard" <mallard@kimabe.eu>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 8:13 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Weather+ NVDA add-on required


Now that my old guide dog has gone to Rainbow Bridge, and I no longer
have to look after her, I'll have moer time to spend on other things,
and Weather+ will be one of them...

Ciao,

Ollie




Re: Suggestions for sound recording programs: was, New Member (5)

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Very interesting, thanks! I have found two possible products:

Virtual Recorder which offers a free trial but does cost to have the full copy

Or

Virtual audio recorder by DDMF which costs €15 to buy.

 

Which one are you recommending?

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 5:36 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: Suggestions for sound recording programs: was, [nvda] New Member (5)

 

Hi,

I would like to recommend a great sound recorder called virtual recorder. It is very easy to download and install, and very accessible. When you launch it, you can record your voice with a built in mike, record sounds straight from the sound card, or both. So, it does very well with recording pod casts, because it records your voice great, and it records a screen reader directly from the sound card at the same time, so your voice and screen reader come through loud and clear. There is a record button, stop, pause, and you can record in many formats like MP3, for example. The problem with Voice recorder in win10, is that you only have the choice of recording in a M4A format that is unique to win10. Very few players can play the files that you record with that program. Virtual recorder saves your recordings in a folder that you choose as soon as you stop the recording. The recordings are so clear I have done with it, and it does not take up much room on your computer. There is even a portable version that can run from a USB flash drive. Just type in Virtual Recorder in your search like Google, and you will get a site to download it. You may be able to download it from:

If not, just do a search for it. I absolutely love it. Take care.

 

 

From: Gene

Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 8:22 PM

Subject: Re: Suggestions for sound recording programs: was, [nvda] New Member (5)

 

Also, will people please change subject lines when the thread changes to the point where it has nothing to do with the original subject.  The subject line still says new member and the discussion is now about audio recorders.  I'm not saying that people should change subject lines if the topic still is reasonably related to the original but this isn't even remotely related. 

 

I am changing the subject line in this thread with this message.

 

Gene

 

From: Gene

Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 7:15 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] New Member (5)

 

If the sound recorder program in Windows 10 is like the one in Windows 7, it's almost worthless.  In the Windows 7 program, you can't edit and it records in the MP3 format as I recall.  I know you can't choose formats and I know it’s a lossy format. Whether ogg or MP3, its so limited that it's more like a toy. 

 

I don't recall if it even has a pause button and if it resumes recording or overwrites the file if you stop and start it.  What program did you used to use?  If you used the old XP sound recorder, that may still work in Windows 10.  I got it to work in Windows 7.  I can suggest programs to use to create a podcast file and edit it.  For example, you might use a program I have to record the podcast file and then edit with Mp3 Direct Cut.  Both programs will produce MP3 files but, for reasons I won't go into now, it's better to use one program I can discuss for editing and MP3 Direct Cut for editing.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Pranav Lal

Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 7:02 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] New Member (5)

 

Hi,

The sound recorder in Windows 10 is called voice recorder. Search for it by using the search feature which you can access by pressing ctrl+escape. It is accessible.

-----Original Message-----
From:
nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jolene Cardenas
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 12:42 PM
To:
nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New Member (5)

Hello once more,

Thank you for your responses, for I enjoyed reading them a lot!

Further specs: My Web browser is the latest version of Firefox (even though a sighted friend told me that Google Chrome was better), my default media player is Windows Media Player 12 (not The Groove Music from Windows 10), and Gmail is the only e-mail source I use.  Since Windows 10 doesn't come with the Sound Recorder program like how previous versions of Windows does, I'm missing it a lot because I use it for Podcasting and other projects.  Can any Windows 10 user recommend any sound-recording program that would work well with it + NVDA?  I'd appreciate your feedback so much.

Just FYI: I have no usable vision in both eyes to read large print so I'm totally dependent on NVDA to do all my reading out loud for me.

Take care, and have a good day.

sincerely,

Jolene.






Re: Suggestions for sound recording programs: was, New Member (5)

Bhavya shah
 

Hi Gene,
It would be really appreciated if you could share links to your
tutorial and other guides you mentioned that teach Audacity, even if
intended for use with JAWS. I shall adapt.
The previous audio tutorial series I had tried understanding from was
primarily using the JAWS scripts features which provide automatic
read-outs, and I was unable to find an alternative source for the same
information, despite having reviewed the screen. It was sort of a
little intimidating, to be true.
Thanks.

On 5/23/16, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
as with so many programs, a lot of what you do are program commands.
Audacity commands for play, record, and for editing are program commands.
As in so many cases, if you know how to use a program, you can do a good
deal with it regardless of screen-reader. Many people use Gold Wave and
Audacity with NVDA. At times, JAWS may have scripts that allow you to do
more or do some things more easily. At times, NVDA may have been nodified
to allow it to work more fully or in an automated way with a program.
You can often learn a lot from tutorials or a written guide written for
blind users regardless of which screen-reader they may have been written
for.

If you know your screen-readers commands such as read current line, etc. and
how to review the screen. you can use a lot of program commands and look at
the screen if you don't get automatic readout.

I don't know what you want to do with these programs. I did a basic
tutorial for Audacity explaining how to edit and the basics of the program.
the program has some new features that weren't covered and one of them might
be very useful in editing. But you will get a good basic knowledge of how
to edit and play and record. I can find a download link if you want it.
Others may make other suggestions such as the written user Guide to the
program with JAWS. I believe that more advanced users may find this to be
useful but it is very densely written, more like a manual and I think most
beginner users are far better off using an actual tutorial with oral
instructions and demonstrations.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Bhavya shah
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 12:53 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: Suggestions for sound recording programs: was, [nvda] New
Member (5)


Hi,
I wish there was more readily available documentation for using such
sound recorders and audio editors with NVDA, not those which only
record, but those which allow their modification and improvement.
I have given up on Goldwave for the time being, and am working on
trying to figure out Audacity with a Skype friend.
Thanks.

On 5/23/16, David Moore <jesusloves1966@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
I would like to recommend a great sound recorder called virtual recorder.
It
is very easy to download and install, and very accessible. When you
launch
it, you can record your voice with a built in mike, record sounds
straight
from the sound card, or both. So, it does very well with recording pod
casts, because it records your voice great, and it records a screen
reader
directly from the sound card at the same time, so your voice and screen
reader come through loud and clear. There is a record button, stop,
pause,
and you can record in many formats like MP3, for example. The problem
with
Voice recorder in win10, is that you only have the choice of recording in
a
M4A format that is unique to win10. Very few players can play the files
that
you record with that program. Virtual recorder saves your recordings in a
folder that you choose as soon as you stop the recording. The recordings
are
so clear I have done with it, and it does not take up much room on your
computer. There is even a portable version that can run from a USB flash
drive. Just type in Virtual Recorder in your search like Google, and you
will get a site to download it. You may be able to download it from:
www.ninite.com
If not, just do a search for it. I absolutely love it. Take care.


From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 8:22 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: Suggestions for sound recording programs: was, [nvda] New
Member (5)

Also, will people please change subject lines when the thread changes to
the
point where it has nothing to do with the original subject. The subject
line still says new member and the discussion is now about audio
recorders.
I'm not saying that people should change subject lines if the topic still
is
reasonably related to the original but this isn't even remotely related.

I am changing the subject line in this thread with this message.

Gene

From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 7:15 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New Member (5)

If the sound recorder program in Windows 10 is like the one in Windows 7,
it's almost worthless. In the Windows 7 program, you can't edit and it
records in the MP3 format as I recall. I know you can't choose formats
and
I know it’s a lossy format. Whether ogg or MP3, its so limited that it's
more like a toy.

I don't recall if it even has a pause button and if it resumes recording
or
overwrites the file if you stop and start it. What program did you used
to
use? If you used the old XP sound recorder, that may still work in
Windows
10. I got it to work in Windows 7. I can suggest programs to use to
create
a podcast file and edit it. For example, you might use a program I have
to
record the podcast file and then edit with Mp3 Direct Cut. Both programs
will produce MP3 files but, for reasons I won't go into now, it's better
to
use one program I can discuss for editing and MP3 Direct Cut for editing.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Pranav Lal
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 7:02 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New Member (5)

Hi,

The sound recorder in Windows 10 is called voice recorder. Search for it
by
using the search feature which you can access by pressing ctrl+escape. It
is
accessible.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Jolene
Cardenas
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 12:42 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New Member (5)

Hello once more,

Thank you for your responses, for I enjoyed reading them a lot!

Further specs: My Web browser is the latest version of Firefox (even
though
a sighted friend told me that Google Chrome was better), my default media
player is Windows Media Player 12 (not The Groove Music from Windows 10),
and Gmail is the only e-mail source I use. Since Windows 10 doesn't come
with the Sound Recorder program like how previous versions of Windows
does,
I'm missing it a lot because I use it for Podcasting and other projects.
Can any Windows 10 user recommend any sound-recording program that would
work well with it + NVDA? I'd appreciate your feedback so much.

Just FYI: I have no usable vision in both eyes to read large print so I'm
totally dependent on NVDA to do all my reading out loud for me.

Take care, and have a good day.

sincerely,

Jolene.








--
Warm Regards
Bhavya Shah
Using NVDA (Non Visual Desktop Access) free and open source screen
reader for Microsoft Windows
To download a copy of the free screen reader NVDA, please visit
http://www.nvaccess.org/
Using Google Talkback on Motorolla G second generation Lollipop 5.0.2
Reach me through the following means:
Mobile: +91 7506221750
E-mail id: bhavya.shah125@gmail.com
Skype id : bhavya.09



--
Warm Regards
Bhavya Shah
Using NVDA (Non Visual Desktop Access) free and open source screen
reader for Microsoft Windows
To download a copy of the free screen reader NVDA, please visit
http://www.nvaccess.org/
Using Google Talkback on Motorolla G second generation Lollipop 5.0.2
Reach me through the following means:
Mobile: +91 7506221750
E-mail id: bhavya.shah125@gmail.com
Skype id : bhavya.09


Re: Suggestions for sound recording programs: was, New Member (5)

Gene
 

as with so many programs, a lot of what you do are program commands.  Audacity commands for play, record, and for editing are program commands.  As in so many cases, if you know how to use a program, you can do a good deal with it regardless of screen-reader.  Many people use Gold Wave and Audacity with NVDA.  At times, JAWS may have scripts that allow you to do more or do some things more easily.  At times, NVDA may have been nodified to allow it to work more fully or in an automated way with a program. 
You can often learn a lot from tutorials or a written guide written for blind users regardless of which screen-reader they may have been written for. 
 
If you know your screen-readers commands such as read current line, etc. and how to review the screen. you can use a lot of program commands and look at the screen if you don't get automatic readout. 
 
I don't know what you want to do with these programs.  I did a basic tutorial for Audacity explaining how to edit and the basics of the program.  the program has some new features that weren't covered and one of them might be very useful in editing.  But you will get a good basic knowledge of how to edit and play and record.  I can find a download link if you want it.  Others may make other suggestions such as the written user Guide to the program with JAWS.  I believe that more advanced users may find this to be useful but it is very densely written, more like a manual and I think most beginner users are far better off using an actual tutorial with oral instructions and demonstrations.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 12:53 AM
Subject: Re: Suggestions for sound recording programs: was, [nvda] New Member (5)

Hi,
I wish there was more readily available documentation for using such
sound recorders and audio editors with NVDA, not those which only
record, but those which allow their modification and improvement.
I have given up on Goldwave for the time being, and am working on
trying to figure out Audacity with a Skype friend.
Thanks.

On 5/23/16, David Moore <jesusloves1966@...> wrote:
> Hi,
> I would like to recommend a great sound recorder called virtual recorder. It
> is very easy to download and install, and very accessible. When you launch
> it, you can record your voice with a built in mike, record sounds straight
> from the sound card, or both. So, it does very well with recording pod
> casts, because it records your voice great, and it records a screen reader
> directly from the sound card at the same time, so your voice and screen
> reader come through loud and clear. There is a record button, stop, pause,
> and you can record in many formats like MP3, for example. The problem with
> Voice recorder in win10, is that you only have the choice of recording in a
> M4A format that is unique to win10. Very few players can play the files that
> you record with that program. Virtual recorder saves your recordings in a
> folder that you choose as soon as you stop the recording. The recordings are
> so clear I have done with it, and it does not take up much room on your
> computer. There is even a portable version that can run from a USB flash
> drive. Just type in Virtual Recorder in your search like Google, and you
> will get a site to download it. You may be able to download it from:
> www.ninite.com
> If not, just do a search for it. I absolutely love it. Take care.
>
>
> From: Gene
> Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 8:22 PM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: Suggestions for sound recording programs: was, [nvda] New
> Member (5)
>
> Also, will people please change subject lines when the thread changes to the
> point where it has nothing to do with the original subject.  The subject
> line still says new member and the discussion is now about audio recorders.
> I'm not saying that people should change subject lines if the topic still is
> reasonably related to the original but this isn't even remotely related.
>
> I am changing the subject line in this thread with this message.
>
> Gene
>
> From: Gene
> Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 7:15 PM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] New Member (5)
>
> If the sound recorder program in Windows 10 is like the one in Windows 7,
> it's almost worthless.  In the Windows 7 program, you can't edit and it
> records in the MP3 format as I recall.  I know you can't choose formats and
> I know it’s a lossy format. Whether ogg or MP3, its so limited that it's
> more like a toy.
>
> I don't recall if it even has a pause button and if it resumes recording or
> overwrites the file if you stop and start it.  What program did you used to
> use?  If you used the old XP sound recorder, that may still work in Windows
> 10.  I got it to work in Windows 7.  I can suggest programs to use to create
> a podcast file and edit it.  For example, you might use a program I have to
> record the podcast file and then edit with Mp3 Direct Cut.  Both programs
> will produce MP3 files but, for reasons I won't go into now, it's better to
> use one program I can discuss for editing and MP3 Direct Cut for editing.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Pranav Lal
> Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 7:02 PM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] New Member (5)
>
> Hi,
>
> The sound recorder in Windows 10 is called voice recorder. Search for it by
> using the search feature which you can access by pressing ctrl+escape. It is
> accessible.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jolene
> Cardenas
> Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 12:42 PM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] New Member (5)
>
> Hello once more,
>
> Thank you for your responses, for I enjoyed reading them a lot!
>
> Further specs: My Web browser is the latest version of Firefox (even though
> a sighted friend told me that Google Chrome was better), my default media
> player is Windows Media Player 12 (not The Groove Music from Windows 10),
> and Gmail is the only e-mail source I use.  Since Windows 10 doesn't come
> with the Sound Recorder program like how previous versions of Windows does,
> I'm missing it a lot because I use it for Podcasting and other projects.
> Can any Windows 10 user recommend any sound-recording program that would
> work well with it + NVDA?  I'd appreciate your feedback so much.
>
> Just FYI: I have no usable vision in both eyes to read large print so I'm
> totally dependent on NVDA to do all my reading out loud for me.
>
> Take care, and have a good day.
>
> sincerely,
>
> Jolene.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


--
Warm Regards
Bhavya Shah
Using NVDA (Non Visual Desktop Access) free and open source screen
reader for Microsoft Windows
To download a copy of the free screen reader NVDA, please visit
http://www.nvaccess.org/
Using Google Talkback on Motorolla G second generation Lollipop 5.0.2
Reach me through the following means:
Mobile: +91 7506221750
E-mail id: bhavya.shah125@...
Skype id : bhavya.09




Re: Suggestions for sound recording programs: was, New Member (5)

Bhavya shah
 

Hi,
I wish there was more readily available documentation for using such
sound recorders and audio editors with NVDA, not those which only
record, but those which allow their modification and improvement.
I have given up on Goldwave for the time being, and am working on
trying to figure out Audacity with a Skype friend.
Thanks.

On 5/23/16, David Moore <jesusloves1966@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
I would like to recommend a great sound recorder called virtual recorder. It
is very easy to download and install, and very accessible. When you launch
it, you can record your voice with a built in mike, record sounds straight
from the sound card, or both. So, it does very well with recording pod
casts, because it records your voice great, and it records a screen reader
directly from the sound card at the same time, so your voice and screen
reader come through loud and clear. There is a record button, stop, pause,
and you can record in many formats like MP3, for example. The problem with
Voice recorder in win10, is that you only have the choice of recording in a
M4A format that is unique to win10. Very few players can play the files that
you record with that program. Virtual recorder saves your recordings in a
folder that you choose as soon as you stop the recording. The recordings are
so clear I have done with it, and it does not take up much room on your
computer. There is even a portable version that can run from a USB flash
drive. Just type in Virtual Recorder in your search like Google, and you
will get a site to download it. You may be able to download it from:
www.ninite.com
If not, just do a search for it. I absolutely love it. Take care.


From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 8:22 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: Suggestions for sound recording programs: was, [nvda] New
Member (5)

Also, will people please change subject lines when the thread changes to the
point where it has nothing to do with the original subject. The subject
line still says new member and the discussion is now about audio recorders.
I'm not saying that people should change subject lines if the topic still is
reasonably related to the original but this isn't even remotely related.

I am changing the subject line in this thread with this message.

Gene

From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 7:15 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New Member (5)

If the sound recorder program in Windows 10 is like the one in Windows 7,
it's almost worthless. In the Windows 7 program, you can't edit and it
records in the MP3 format as I recall. I know you can't choose formats and
I know it’s a lossy format. Whether ogg or MP3, its so limited that it's
more like a toy.

I don't recall if it even has a pause button and if it resumes recording or
overwrites the file if you stop and start it. What program did you used to
use? If you used the old XP sound recorder, that may still work in Windows
10. I got it to work in Windows 7. I can suggest programs to use to create
a podcast file and edit it. For example, you might use a program I have to
record the podcast file and then edit with Mp3 Direct Cut. Both programs
will produce MP3 files but, for reasons I won't go into now, it's better to
use one program I can discuss for editing and MP3 Direct Cut for editing.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Pranav Lal
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 7:02 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New Member (5)

Hi,

The sound recorder in Windows 10 is called voice recorder. Search for it by
using the search feature which you can access by pressing ctrl+escape. It is
accessible.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jolene
Cardenas
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 12:42 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New Member (5)

Hello once more,

Thank you for your responses, for I enjoyed reading them a lot!

Further specs: My Web browser is the latest version of Firefox (even though
a sighted friend told me that Google Chrome was better), my default media
player is Windows Media Player 12 (not The Groove Music from Windows 10),
and Gmail is the only e-mail source I use. Since Windows 10 doesn't come
with the Sound Recorder program like how previous versions of Windows does,
I'm missing it a lot because I use it for Podcasting and other projects.
Can any Windows 10 user recommend any sound-recording program that would
work well with it + NVDA? I'd appreciate your feedback so much.

Just FYI: I have no usable vision in both eyes to read large print so I'm
totally dependent on NVDA to do all my reading out loud for me.

Take care, and have a good day.

sincerely,

Jolene.







--
Warm Regards
Bhavya Shah
Using NVDA (Non Visual Desktop Access) free and open source screen
reader for Microsoft Windows
To download a copy of the free screen reader NVDA, please visit
http://www.nvaccess.org/
Using Google Talkback on Motorolla G second generation Lollipop 5.0.2
Reach me through the following means:
Mobile: +91 7506221750
E-mail id: bhavya.shah125@gmail.com
Skype id : bhavya.09


Re: browsing with edge,

David Moore
 

Hi,
You cannot use alt to get to menus. You have to get to all buttons by using object navigation with NVDA. That is the only way you can get to the buttons. You have to use the mouse to click on the buttons that you find with the review cursor.
 
 

Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 12:21 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,
 

Thanks everybody for the info on using Edge.  Please, how does one access the pull down menus in Edge?  I keep hitting the “alt-key” and nothing happens.   Is there another way in Edge?  All the alt key commands of IE seem to be deactivated when I launch Edge.  Please advise.  Also, I have a set home page, Edge ignores it and goes to the default each time.

Many thanks. 

Blessings

Pascal

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 6:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,

 

Hi,

I urge you to get the NvDA add on, Windows 10 app assentials. This add on makes NVDA able to access all of the results of Cortana in Edge. Cortana can already do much more than Siri on an iPhone, so I really encourage you to give Cortana and Edge to get her results another try after you install the NVDA add on Windows 10 app assentials that Joseph Lee programs. Using Cortana and accessing the results with NvDA already makes me much more efficient with doing my work. You do not have to do a lot of browsing to find what you want, because Cortana does such a good job of narrowing down what you need and you can read the results right away in Edge and totally access it with NVDA. I just want you to know how much I am getting out of Cortana and Edge by installing that add on to NVDA. Take care.

 

 

From: Greg Wocher

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 5:02 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,

 

Hello,

Unfortunately there is not a way to disable edge entirely. There are times when it will automatically be used no matter what you have your default browser set to. One instance that comes to mind is when doing a search with Kortana. The search results will always come up in edge.

 

Regards,

Greg Wocher

 

On 5/20/2016 4:12 PM, Pascal Lambert wrote:

Greetings,

I find Edge very slow, it takes few mins to have voice feedback when it is launched.  I tried to get rid of it and make Firefox the default but it comes back in certain situations.  Is there a way to completely disabled it?  I prefer using Firefox even though lately it is having problem with Flash player acting strangely.  Any suggestions on these issues is greatly appreciated.

Many thanks

Blessings

Pascal

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links

 

There is more than just speed to consider.  Firefox still uses a different interface and it is a more convenient interface.  Chrome shows all sorts of things such as history and settings as web pages.  Firefox has a lot more add ons.  Firefox has a document reading feature that blind people can use.  I tried using a Chrome add on for this purpose and I couldn't use it.  I don't know if there are other Chrome add ons that implement this feature. 

It appears to me that Chrome hasn't even put short cut commands on some or many of its menu items.  That sore of thing is and has been standard since the mid-nineties. 


Gene

 

From: P. Otter

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 11:54 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links

 

ofr me it's the same!

chrome is in the most situations nice and quick, more than most other browsers.

google has made accessibility extentions it is recommanded to install for example the extention that let you navigate with the arrow keys.

 cheers

paul otter

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Bobby

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 6:36 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links

 

Hay very good news google crome is now accessible as well.  I now use it as my default browser

 

On 5/20/2016 12:32 PM, Peter Beasley wrote:

That browser is not fully accessible. Use internet explorer or Mozilla firefox.

 

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 4:16 PM

Subject: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links

 

Hi listers ken here have a vexing problem.  on two local radio stations namely WOLD-lp, and WMGQ in NJ I can’t seem to find the listen live.  on WOLD the problem is simpler.  the listen live appears as a heading, but not as a link, clickable graphic or button just the words listen live.  this is the only way to listen to the station without tunein radio since they have change from a winamp based stream to a flash based popup player.  they have changed stream providors.  what must they do to make there stream appear as a link and not just the words listen live?  then on Magic 98.3 the problem is even stranger.  in order to listen to all greater-media owned stations you must register for their listener clubs.  in the case of magic 98.3 additionally you are only able to listen to them if you live in NJ, Pa area.  same with active rock station WDHA in dover NJ.  must assume the same condition is true with WRAT the jersey shore based rocker.  I have tried on three different browsers to log into the station and the listen live is nowhere.  no button, no links, no graphics.  there are listen links connected to interviews/features but not the stream.  didn’t try the word play but no play buttons exist then just now using the edge browser with NVDA clearly hit the letter f found the edit field, but when entered the stupid site thought Oh you searched for your email address, sorry no such thing.  so edge is obviously out since NVDA can’t seem to focus on the right edit field.  so my question is this, how do I advise the webmasters of both radio stations?  especially magic 98.3 since I’m technically a music club member?  the websites for both are www.woldradio.com for oldies 107.9 and www.magic983.com for WMGQ.  perhaps someone with partial sight can advise on this one.  is it a fix on my end possibly? 

 

 


Re: browsing with edge,

David Moore
 

Sorry, I am tired from the week end. Please ignore win10 list moderator. I thought I was on that list. Thanks for your understanding.

-----Original Message-----
From: David Moore
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 1:39 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,

Hi,
I was just saying that you can use Edge to do some browsing with NVDA. I am
using it now to brows web sites. It should not be your default browser by
all means, actually, I use Chrome the most. Chrome is accessible with JAWS
and NVDA. Just see what you can do with Edge using NVDA and play around with
it a little. It is usable to enter a web site and read the web page using
NVDA with the win 10 app Essentials.
David Moore (win10 list moderator)
I have been gone over the weekend, so I do not know what has been said on
here about this thread.


-----Original Message-----
From: Brian's Mail list account
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 4:42 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,

Well do give up on the one with windoze 10, as it is rubbish. I don't know
what they were thinking when they created it and made it default. its got to
the stage now that even vendors who sell pcs alter it to Ie or Firefox, so
the experience for sighted users must be a bit naff as well.
I think we have heard enough of this now. I only recently got a windows 10
machine and can see, well hear, how awful it actually is.
Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bobby" <bvinton@optonline.net>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 7:16 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,


The alt key does not work only the tab key works. When red stone comes
out Microsoft says things will get better than they are now. Just don't
give up.


On 5/21/2016 12:21 PM, Pascal Lambert wrote:

Thanks everybody for the info on using Edge. Please, how does one
access the pull down menus in Edge? I keep hitting the “alt-key” and
nothing happens. Is there another way in Edge? All the alt key
commands of IE seem to be deactivated when I launch Edge. Please
advise. Also, I have a set home page, Edge ignores it and goes to the
default each time.

Many thanks.

Blessings

Pascal

*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of
*David Moore
*Sent:* Friday, May 20, 2016 6:54 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,

Hi,

I urge you to get the NvDA add on, Windows 10 app assentials. This add
on makes NVDA able to access all of the results of Cortana in Edge.
Cortana can already do much more than Siri on an iPhone, so I really
encourage you to give Cortana and Edge to get her results another try
after you install the NVDA add on Windows 10 app assentials that
Joseph Lee programs. Using Cortana and accessing the results with NvDA
already makes me much more efficient with doing my work. You do not
have to do a lot of browsing to find what you want, because Cortana
does such a good job of narrowing down what you need and you can read
the results right away in Edge and totally access it with NVDA. I just
want you to know how much I am getting out of Cortana and Edge by
installing that add on to NVDA. Take care.

*From:*Greg Wocher <mailto:gwocher@gwocher.com>

*Sent:*Friday, May 20, 2016 5:02 PM

*To:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

*Subject:*Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,

Hello,

Unfortunately there is not a way to disable edge entirely. There are
times when it will automatically be used no matter what you have your
default browser set to. One instance that comes to mind is when doing
a search with Kortana. The search results will always come up in edge.

Regards,

Greg Wocher

On 5/20/2016 4:12 PM, Pascal Lambert wrote:

Greetings,

I find Edge very slow, it takes few mins to have voice feedback
when it is launched. I tried to get rid of it and make Firefox
the default but it comes back in certain situations. Is there a
way to completely disabled it? I prefer using Firefox even though
lately it is having problem with Flash player acting strangely.
Any suggestions on these issues is greatly appreciated.

Many thanks

Blessings

Pascal

*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Gene
*Sent:* Friday, May 20, 2016 3:44 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that
aren't links

There is more than just speed to consider. Firefox still uses a
different interface and it is a more convenient interface. Chrome
shows all sorts of things such as history and settings as web
pages. Firefox has a lot more add ons. Firefox has a document
reading feature that blind people can use. I tried using a Chrome
add on for this purpose and I couldn't use it. I don't know if
there are other Chrome add ons that implement this feature.

It appears to me that Chrome hasn't even put short cut commands on
some or many of its menu items. That sore of thing is and has been
standard since the mid-nineties.


Gene

*From:*P. Otter <mailto:pam.otter@gmail.com>

*Sent:*Friday, May 20, 2016 11:54 AM

*To:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

*Subject:*Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that
aren't links

ofr me it's the same!

chrome is in the most situations nice and quick, more than most
other browsers.

google has made accessibility extentions it is recommanded to
install for example the extention that let you navigate with the
arrow keys.

cheers

paul otter

----- Original Message -----

*From:*Bobby <mailto:bvinton@optonline.net>

*To:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

*Sent:*Friday, May 20, 2016 6:36 PM

*Subject:*Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links
that aren't links

Hay very good news google crome is now accessible as well. I
now use it as my default browser

On 5/20/2016 12:32 PM, Peter Beasley wrote:

That browser is not fully accessible. Use internet
explorer or Mozilla firefox.

*From:*ken lawrence via Groups.io
<mailto:kenlawrence124=aol.com@groups.io>

*Sent:*Friday, May 20, 2016 4:16 PM

*To:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

*Subject:*[nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links
that aren't links

Hi listers ken here have a vexing problem. on two local
radio stations namely WOLD-lp, and WMGQ in NJ I can’t seem
to find the listen live. on WOLD the problem is simpler.
the listen live appears as a heading, but not as a link,
clickable graphic or button just the words listen live.
this is the only way to listen to the station without
tunein radio since they have change from a winamp based
stream to a flash based popup player. they have changed
stream providors. what must they do to make there stream
appear as a link and not just the words listen live? then
on Magic 98.3 the problem is even stranger. in order to
listen to all greater-media owned stations you must
register for their listener clubs. in the case of magic
98.3 additionally you are only able to listen to them if
you live in NJ, Pa area. same with active rock station
WDHA in dover NJ. must assume the same condition is true
with WRAT the jersey shore based rocker. I have tried on
three different browsers to log into the station and the
listen live is nowhere. no button, no links, no
graphics. there are listen links connected to
interviews/features but not the stream. didn’t try the
word play but no play buttons exist then just now using
the edge browser with NVDA clearly hit the letter f found
the edit field, but when entered the stupid site thought
Oh you searched for your email address, sorry no such
thing. so edge is obviously out since NVDA can’t seem to
focus on the right edit field. so my question is this,
how do I advise the webmasters of both radio stations?
especially magic 98.3 since I’m technically a music club
member? the websites for both are www.woldradio.com
<http://www.woldradio.com>; for oldies 107.9 and
www.magic983.com <http://www.magic983.com>; for WMGQ.
perhaps someone with partial sight can advise on this
one. is it a fix on my end possibly?


Re: browsing with edge,

David Moore
 

Hi,
I was just saying that you can use Edge to do some browsing with NVDA. I am using it now to brows web sites. It should not be your default browser by all means, actually, I use Chrome the most. Chrome is accessible with JAWS and NVDA. Just see what you can do with Edge using NVDA and play around with it a little. It is usable to enter a web site and read the web page using NVDA with the win 10 app Essentials.
David Moore (win10 list moderator)
I have been gone over the weekend, so I do not know what has been said on here about this thread.

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian's Mail list account
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 4:42 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,

Well do give up on the one with windoze 10, as it is rubbish. I don't know
what they were thinking when they created it and made it default. its got to
the stage now that even vendors who sell pcs alter it to Ie or Firefox, so
the experience for sighted users must be a bit naff as well.
I think we have heard enough of this now. I only recently got a windows 10
machine and can see, well hear, how awful it actually is.
Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bobby" <bvinton@optonline.net>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 7:16 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,


The alt key does not work only the tab key works. When red stone comes
out Microsoft says things will get better than they are now. Just don't
give up.


On 5/21/2016 12:21 PM, Pascal Lambert wrote:

Thanks everybody for the info on using Edge. Please, how does one
access the pull down menus in Edge? I keep hitting the “alt-key” and
nothing happens. Is there another way in Edge? All the alt key
commands of IE seem to be deactivated when I launch Edge. Please
advise. Also, I have a set home page, Edge ignores it and goes to the
default each time.

Many thanks.

Blessings

Pascal

*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of
*David Moore
*Sent:* Friday, May 20, 2016 6:54 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,

Hi,

I urge you to get the NvDA add on, Windows 10 app assentials. This add
on makes NVDA able to access all of the results of Cortana in Edge.
Cortana can already do much more than Siri on an iPhone, so I really
encourage you to give Cortana and Edge to get her results another try
after you install the NVDA add on Windows 10 app assentials that
Joseph Lee programs. Using Cortana and accessing the results with NvDA
already makes me much more efficient with doing my work. You do not
have to do a lot of browsing to find what you want, because Cortana
does such a good job of narrowing down what you need and you can read
the results right away in Edge and totally access it with NVDA. I just
want you to know how much I am getting out of Cortana and Edge by
installing that add on to NVDA. Take care.

*From:*Greg Wocher <mailto:gwocher@gwocher.com>

*Sent:*Friday, May 20, 2016 5:02 PM

*To:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

*Subject:*Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,

Hello,

Unfortunately there is not a way to disable edge entirely. There are
times when it will automatically be used no matter what you have your
default browser set to. One instance that comes to mind is when doing
a search with Kortana. The search results will always come up in edge.

Regards,

Greg Wocher

On 5/20/2016 4:12 PM, Pascal Lambert wrote:

Greetings,

I find Edge very slow, it takes few mins to have voice feedback
when it is launched. I tried to get rid of it and make Firefox
the default but it comes back in certain situations. Is there a
way to completely disabled it? I prefer using Firefox even though
lately it is having problem with Flash player acting strangely.
Any suggestions on these issues is greatly appreciated.

Many thanks

Blessings

Pascal

*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Gene
*Sent:* Friday, May 20, 2016 3:44 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that
aren't links

There is more than just speed to consider. Firefox still uses a
different interface and it is a more convenient interface. Chrome
shows all sorts of things such as history and settings as web
pages. Firefox has a lot more add ons. Firefox has a document
reading feature that blind people can use. I tried using a Chrome
add on for this purpose and I couldn't use it. I don't know if
there are other Chrome add ons that implement this feature.

It appears to me that Chrome hasn't even put short cut commands on
some or many of its menu items. That sore of thing is and has been
standard since the mid-nineties.


Gene

*From:*P. Otter <mailto:pam.otter@gmail.com>

*Sent:*Friday, May 20, 2016 11:54 AM

*To:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

*Subject:*Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that
aren't links

ofr me it's the same!

chrome is in the most situations nice and quick, more than most
other browsers.

google has made accessibility extentions it is recommanded to
install for example the extention that let you navigate with the
arrow keys.

cheers

paul otter

----- Original Message -----

*From:*Bobby <mailto:bvinton@optonline.net>

*To:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

*Sent:*Friday, May 20, 2016 6:36 PM

*Subject:*Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links
that aren't links

Hay very good news google crome is now accessible as well. I
now use it as my default browser

On 5/20/2016 12:32 PM, Peter Beasley wrote:

That browser is not fully accessible. Use internet
explorer or Mozilla firefox.

*From:*ken lawrence via Groups.io
<mailto:kenlawrence124=aol.com@groups.io>

*Sent:*Friday, May 20, 2016 4:16 PM

*To:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

*Subject:*[nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links
that aren't links

Hi listers ken here have a vexing problem. on two local
radio stations namely WOLD-lp, and WMGQ in NJ I can’t seem
to find the listen live. on WOLD the problem is simpler.
the listen live appears as a heading, but not as a link,
clickable graphic or button just the words listen live.
this is the only way to listen to the station without
tunein radio since they have change from a winamp based
stream to a flash based popup player. they have changed
stream providors. what must they do to make there stream
appear as a link and not just the words listen live? then
on Magic 98.3 the problem is even stranger. in order to
listen to all greater-media owned stations you must
register for their listener clubs. in the case of magic
98.3 additionally you are only able to listen to them if
you live in NJ, Pa area. same with active rock station
WDHA in dover NJ. must assume the same condition is true
with WRAT the jersey shore based rocker. I have tried on
three different browsers to log into the station and the
listen live is nowhere. no button, no links, no
graphics. there are listen links connected to
interviews/features but not the stream. didn’t try the
word play but no play buttons exist then just now using
the edge browser with NVDA clearly hit the letter f found
the edit field, but when entered the stupid site thought
Oh you searched for your email address, sorry no such
thing. so edge is obviously out since NVDA can’t seem to
focus on the right edit field. so my question is this,
how do I advise the webmasters of both radio stations?
especially magic 98.3 since I’m technically a music club
member? the websites for both are www.woldradio.com
<http://www.woldradio.com>; for oldies 107.9 and
www.magic983.com <http://www.magic983.com>; for WMGQ.
perhaps someone with partial sight can advise on this
one. is it a fix on my end possibly?


Re: Rainbow Bridge crossing

Kwork
 

Laurie, your welcome. I don't always remember to do so, but felt it rather
important to change it in this case.
Travis

----- Original Message -----
From: "Laurie Mehta via Groups.io" <lauriemehta=yahoo.com@groups.io>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 8:43 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Rainbow Bridge crossing


Ollie,
I am also sorry to hear of your guide's passing on.
That is always so hard... no matter how many guides any of us has had.
Please be good to yourself.
You're in my prayers.

And, thank you Travis, for changing the subject line-- that helped me to
open the message sooner.
-Laurie

--------------------------------------------
On Sun, 5/22/16, Kwork <istherelife@gmail.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [nvda] Rainbow Bridge crossing
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Date: Sunday, May 22, 2016, 9:45 PM

Ollie, I'm very very
sorry to hear about your dog crossing the rainbow
bridge. That was very sad news for me to read.
You're in my prayers.
Travis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mallard" <mallard@kimabe.eu>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 8:13 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Weather+ NVDA add-on
required


Now that my old guide dog has gone to Rainbow
Bridge, and I no longer
have to look after
her, I'll have moer time to spend on other things,
and Weather+ will be one of them...

Ciao,

Ollie


Re: Suggestions for sound recording programs: was, New Member (5)

David Moore
 

Hi,
I would like to recommend a great sound recorder called virtual recorder. It is very easy to download and install, and very accessible. When you launch it, you can record your voice with a built in mike, record sounds straight from the sound card, or both. So, it does very well with recording pod casts, because it records your voice great, and it records a screen reader directly from the sound card at the same time, so your voice and screen reader come through loud and clear. There is a record button, stop, pause, and you can record in many formats like MP3, for example. The problem with Voice recorder in win10, is that you only have the choice of recording in a M4A format that is unique to win10. Very few players can play the files that you record with that program. Virtual recorder saves your recordings in a folder that you choose as soon as you stop the recording. The recordings are so clear I have done with it, and it does not take up much room on your computer. There is even a portable version that can run from a USB flash drive. Just type in Virtual Recorder in your search like Google, and you will get a site to download it. You may be able to download it from:
If not, just do a search for it. I absolutely love it. Take care.
 
 

From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 8:22 PM
Subject: Re: Suggestions for sound recording programs: was, [nvda] New Member (5)
 
Also, will people please change subject lines when the thread changes to the point where it has nothing to do with the original subject.  The subject line still says new member and the discussion is now about audio recorders.  I'm not saying that people should change subject lines if the topic still is reasonably related to the original but this isn't even remotely related. 
 
I am changing the subject line in this thread with this message.
 
Gene
 
From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 7:15 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] New Member (5)
 
If the sound recorder program in Windows 10 is like the one in Windows 7, it's almost worthless.  In the Windows 7 program, you can't edit and it records in the MP3 format as I recall.  I know you can't choose formats and I know it’s a lossy format. Whether ogg or MP3, its so limited that it's more like a toy. 
 
I don't recall if it even has a pause button and if it resumes recording or overwrites the file if you stop and start it.  What program did you used to use?  If you used the old XP sound recorder, that may still work in Windows 10.  I got it to work in Windows 7.  I can suggest programs to use to create a podcast file and edit it.  For example, you might use a program I have to record the podcast file and then edit with Mp3 Direct Cut.  Both programs will produce MP3 files but, for reasons I won't go into now, it's better to use one program I can discuss for editing and MP3 Direct Cut for editing.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Pranav Lal
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 7:02 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] New Member (5)
 
Hi,

The sound recorder in Windows 10 is called voice recorder. Search for it by using the search feature which you can access by pressing ctrl+escape. It is accessible.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jolene Cardenas
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 12:42 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New Member (5)

Hello once more,

Thank you for your responses, for I enjoyed reading them a lot!

Further specs: My Web browser is the latest version of Firefox (even though a sighted friend told me that Google Chrome was better), my default media player is Windows Media Player 12 (not The Groove Music from Windows 10), and Gmail is the only e-mail source I use.  Since Windows 10 doesn't come with the Sound Recorder program like how previous versions of Windows does, I'm missing it a lot because I use it for Podcasting and other projects.  Can any Windows 10 user recommend any sound-recording program that would work well with it + NVDA?  I'd appreciate your feedback so much.

Just FYI: I have no usable vision in both eyes to read large print so I'm totally dependent on NVDA to do all my reading out loud for me.

Take care, and have a good day.

sincerely,

Jolene.







Re: Rainbow Bridge crossing

Laurie Mehta
 

Ollie,
I am also sorry to hear of your guide's passing on.
That is always so hard... no matter how many guides any of us has had.
Please be good to yourself.
You're in my prayers.

And, thank you Travis, for changing the subject line-- that helped me to open the message sooner.
-Laurie

--------------------------------------------

On Sun, 5/22/16, Kwork <istherelife@gmail.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [nvda] Rainbow Bridge crossing
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Date: Sunday, May 22, 2016, 9:45 PM

Ollie, I'm very very
sorry to hear about your dog crossing the rainbow
bridge. That was very sad news for me to read.
You're in my prayers.
Travis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mallard" <mallard@kimabe.eu>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 8:13 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Weather+ NVDA add-on
required


Now that my old guide dog has gone to Rainbow
Bridge, and I no longer
have to look after
her, I'll have moer time to spend on other things,
and Weather+ will be one of them...

Ciao,

Ollie


Re: New Member (5)

 

Well its only wav, assuming its 32 bit it maybe only 2gb but then it was never meant for large files.

On 23/05/2016 1:59 p.m., Gene wrote:
You can use it for longer recordings but only if you make a sound file using another program and record using that file. You would then save the file with a new name so you don't overwrite the original and can use it again as a template when recording something else. I'm not sure what the size limit is of the file you can use in this way but there is one. I did a presentation for Accessible World years ago that covers the old Sound recorder because it has one feature I haven't found elsewhere that is very good when speaking as a podcast. You can move through and erase something and replace it as you would working with a tape recorder. You don't have to edit by recording new material and inserting it or by deleting old material from the end and then recording new material. You can review and erase material until you get it right as with tape recording. The program has annoying quirks when you move around and you may not want to use it but I'm letting you know that the program probably will work in Windows 10 and that the podcast is available from me if it is no longer available from
Accessible World.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Shaun Everiss
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 8:45 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New Member (5)


I am not sure if this will work, but before it died along with some
soundfonts and stuff I ripped this from my grandpa's old xp machine it
may complain a little and it can only do wav but its good for the short
note.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/5oqodz6nmmf2hx2/soundrecorder.7z?dl=0
That file unless I really run out of space will be up here all day long.



On 23/05/2016 12:02 p.m., Pranav Lal wrote:
Hi,

The sound recorder in Windows 10 is called voice recorder. Search for it by using the search feature which you can access by pressing ctrl+escape. It is accessible.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jolene Cardenas
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 12:42 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New Member (5)

Hello once more,

Thank you for your responses, for I enjoyed reading them a lot!

Further specs: My Web browser is the latest version of Firefox (even though a sighted friend told me that Google Chrome was better), my default media player is Windows Media Player 12 (not The Groove Music from Windows 10), and Gmail is the only e-mail source I use. Since Windows 10 doesn't come with the Sound Recorder program like how previous versions of Windows does, I'm missing it a lot because I use it for Podcasting and other projects. Can any Windows 10 user recommend any sound-recording program that would work well with it + NVDA? I'd appreciate your feedback so much.

Just FYI: I have no usable vision in both eyes to read large print so I'm totally dependent on NVDA to do all my reading out loud for me.

Take care, and have a good day.

sincerely,

Jolene.






.


Re: New Member (5)

Gene
 

You can use it for longer recordings but only if you make a sound file using another program and record using that file.  You would then save the file with a new name so you don't overwrite the original and can use it again as a template when recording something else.  I'm not sure what the size limit is of the file you can use in this way but there is one.  I did a presentation for Accessible World years ago that covers the old Sound recorder because it has one feature I haven't found elsewhere that is very good when speaking as a podcast.  You can move through and erase something and replace it as you would working with a tape recorder.  You don't have to edit by recording new material and inserting it or by deleting old material from the end and then recording new material.  You can review and erase material until you get it right as with tape recording.  The program has annoying quirks when you move around and you may not want to use it but I'm letting you know that the program probably will work in Windows 10 and that the podcast is available from me if it is no longer available from
Accessible World.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 8:45 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] New Member (5)

I am not sure if this will work, but before it died along with some
soundfonts and stuff I ripped this from my grandpa's old xp machine it
may complain a little and it can only do wav but its good for the short
note.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/5oqodz6nmmf2hx2/soundrecorder.7z?dl=0
That file unless I really run out of space will be up here all day long.



On 23/05/2016 12:02 p.m., Pranav Lal wrote:
> Hi,
>
> The sound recorder in Windows 10 is called voice recorder. Search for it by using the search feature which you can access by pressing ctrl+escape. It is accessible.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jolene Cardenas
> Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 12:42 PM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] New Member (5)
>
> Hello once more,
>
> Thank you for your responses, for I enjoyed reading them a lot!
>
> Further specs: My Web browser is the latest version of Firefox (even though a sighted friend told me that Google Chrome was better), my default media player is Windows Media Player 12 (not The Groove Music from Windows 10), and Gmail is the only e-mail source I use.  Since Windows 10 doesn't come with the Sound Recorder program like how previous versions of Windows does, I'm missing it a lot because I use it for Podcasting and other projects.  Can any Windows 10 user recommend any sound-recording program that would work well with it + NVDA?  I'd appreciate your feedback so much.
>
> Just FYI: I have no usable vision in both eyes to read large print so I'm totally dependent on NVDA to do all my reading out loud for me.
>
> Take care, and have a good day.
>
> sincerely,
>
> Jolene.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> .
>



Re: New Member (5)

 

I am not sure if this will work, but before it died along with some soundfonts and stuff I ripped this from my grandpa's old xp machine it may complain a little and it can only do wav but its good for the short note.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/5oqodz6nmmf2hx2/soundrecorder.7z?dl=0
That file unless I really run out of space will be up here all day long.

On 23/05/2016 12:02 p.m., Pranav Lal wrote:
Hi,

The sound recorder in Windows 10 is called voice recorder. Search for it by using the search feature which you can access by pressing ctrl+escape. It is accessible.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jolene Cardenas
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 12:42 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New Member (5)

Hello once more,

Thank you for your responses, for I enjoyed reading them a lot!

Further specs: My Web browser is the latest version of Firefox (even though a sighted friend told me that Google Chrome was better), my default media player is Windows Media Player 12 (not The Groove Music from Windows 10), and Gmail is the only e-mail source I use. Since Windows 10 doesn't come with the Sound Recorder program like how previous versions of Windows does, I'm missing it a lot because I use it for Podcasting and other projects. Can any Windows 10 user recommend any sound-recording program that would work well with it + NVDA? I'd appreciate your feedback so much.

Just FYI: I have no usable vision in both eyes to read large print so I'm totally dependent on NVDA to do all my reading out loud for me.

Take care, and have a good day.

sincerely,

Jolene.





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