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Re: Accessing text on web pages

Albert Ruel
 

If the use of Heading Navigation doesn’t get you there, the Letter N for Next Unlinked Text might do it.  When I visit a site for the first time I investigate to see if the developer has properly marked the title or section Headings, and what numbers he/she has assigned to each heading so I can more quickly find the info next time.  Mostly I press the number 1 and Shift Number 1 to check whether or not Level 1 Headings were employed, then I resort to just the Letter H to cycle through whatever is there.  . 

 

Thx, Albert

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of babcockldpvi@...
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 3:23 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Accessing text on web pages

 

Sorry, I feel like a real idiot for asking this but when I am on a web page, what is the best way to access text on a web page. I know that you can use the various navigation keys to cycle through the different elements on the page, but I am stuggling to get to the main body of text and start reading from there.

 

Thanks.


Re: Accessing text on web pages

Gene
 

Most web pages don't have text only versions.  And a text only version still has blocks of links in the same way as other versions of the page would.  It may not have as many interruptions, such as picture captions in an article, I don't know.  But it will still have lots of links at the top and if the nontext version has blocks of links in the article, such as referring you to more information, the text version will, too.  Links are text.  They are text structures that do something but they are composed entirely of text characters.  The only difference is that there are no pictures or images on a text only page.  Just text.  There is a myth that text pages are easier for blind people to navigate.  They aren't. 
 
Some web sites have print versions of pages.  If you search a page for the word print, and you are on a page someone might want to print such as an article, you may find a print link or something similar. If you follow a print link, often a page comes up without hardly any links.  It is intended for printing.  I haven't made any sort of study of this but it appears to me that print links are becoming increasingly scarce.  You may find a mobile version link which may bring up a page with less interruptions of the main text, such as when you are reading an article.  I don't know how common such links are when you are looking at a page with an article.
 
Gene Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 11:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Nvda] Accessing text on web pages

Hey:

 

No tech question is dumb! I am not kidding as I have asked such questions like you did although I know a lot.

 

One should see “Text Only” in the beginning of the web page.  If one is on text there should be a link for “Image/Graphics” on the first page as well.  Check with WWW.HKNC.ORG to see how this works.

 

And a lot of sites do not have this kind of choice at all.

 

Good luck!

 

Jeff


Re: Firefox Browse & Focus Mode

Chris Mullins
 

Hi Brian

In the ‘Browse  Mode’ dialog, if you uncheck the box ‘Audio indication of focus and browse modes’, NVDA says ‘Browse’ or ‘Focus Mode’ instead of using the sounds you described.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: 29 November 2016 17:32
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox Browse & Focus Mode

 

I have never had NVDA announce browse versus focus mode verbally, though I imagine it could be a setting.

If I land in a field where the mode automatically changes from browse to focus NVDA plays a sound that is a high-pitched, quick electronic beep paired with a sound somewhat like keyboard key being struck.  If I switch back to browse mode by hitting NVDA+Spacebar the sound is a single alert that sounds a bit like a bell being struck.

I just tested in a couple of Firefox pages and things are behaving as expected with NVDA's default settings.  I don't get those transition sounds from NVDA when I land in an edit box, though, it announces what I've landed in and says "editable" (I think).
--
Brian

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    ~ Lauren Bacall

    

 


double checking a possible hack

ken lawrence
 

Hi listers am making sure that I’m still on this list.  somebody or something tried to unsubscribe me from one of the NFB lists and want to make sure I’m still on this list.  looking forward to more NVDA info.  while I’m at it saw the info in the most recent NVDA update that windows 10 esssentials has been updated.  the item says that with the new windows 10 app esentials, the extra verbiage when cortana searchs happens is gone.  do I need to uninstall that add on or can I just put the updated version over top of what I have installed now.  thanks.


Re: Firefox Browse & Focus Mode

 
Edited

I meant to edit that last message but somehow didn't.  I don't get the browse [bell-like] versus focus [beep and key strike] sounds when navigating around a page and landing in edit boxes.  It only happens when I intentionally change mode from browse to focus or vice versa using NVDA+Spacebar and am in a control where a mode switch is being made.

Sorry for the duplicate, but somehow this message got sent before being completed and completing it would have been another e-mail message, too.  Better that the thought be completed as it was above.
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Brian

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    ~ Lauren Bacall

    



Re: Firefox Browse & Focus Mode

 

I have never had NVDA announce browse versus focus mode verbally, though I imagine it could be a setting.

If I land in a field where the mode automatically changes from browse to focus NVDA plays a sound that is a high-pitched, quick electronic beep paired with a sound somewhat like keyboard key being struck.  If I switch back to browse mode by hitting NVDA+Spacebar the sound is a single alert that sounds a bit like a bell being struck.

I just tested in a couple of Firefox pages and things are behaving as expected with NVDA's default settings.  I don't get those transition sounds from NVDA when I land in an edit box, though, it announces what I've landed in and says "editable" (I think).
--
Brian

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    ~ Lauren Bacall

    



Re: Accessing text on web pages

Jeffrey Bohrman <jeffrey.bohrman@...>
 

Hey:

 

No tech question is dumb! I am not kidding as I have asked such questions like you did although I know a lot.

 

One should see “Text Only” in the beginning of the web page.  If one is on text there should be a link for “Image/Graphics” on the first page as well.  Check with WWW.HKNC.ORG to see how this works.

 

And a lot of sites do not have this kind of choice at all.

 

Good luck!

 

Jeff


Re: Firefox Browse & Focus Mode

Chris Mullins
 

Hi

When you press NVDA+spacebar, does your computer make a sound or announce ‘Browse Mode’/’Focus Mode’?

 

Cheers

Chris

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Babcock LDPVI
Sent: 29 November 2016 13:25
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Firefox Browse & Focus Mode

 

I am really struggling to toggle between the browse and focus mode when using Firefox. The shortcut "insert + spacebar" doesn't work. Has anyone else experienced this and found a solution,


Thanks,


Re: Firefox Browse & Focus Mode

Gene
 

It depends on how NVDA is set to work.  Tab will not change between browse mode on or off unless you are moving from a field that requires forms mode to a part of the page that doesn't when using default settings.  there is nothing inherent in pressing tab that changes modes.
 
At this point, there is too much we don't know.  When you use the space bar and NVDA key commands to switch between modes, by default, NVDA makes a sound.  It doesn't announce the mode you are switching to.  It makes different sounds for the two modes.  We don't know what is occurring in this case.  Is a switch being made and then moving around the page changing that switch?  If so, settings in browse mode settings should be changed to not make such changes automatic.  Are changes occurring but they aren't recognized for what they are because of the use of sounds rather than speech to tell the user what is occurring?  Are the commands just not working? 
 
We need details to address the problem. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 9:14 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox Browse & Focus Mode

hi.
you can press tab to navigate between focus and brows mode.
God bless you.

On 11/29/16, Babcock LDPVI <babcockldpvi@...> wrote:
> I am really struggling to toggle between the browse and focus mode when
> using Firefox. The shortcut "insert + spacebar" doesn't work. Has anyone
> else experienced this and found a solution,
>
> Thanks,
>


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Re: Firefox Browse & Focus Mode

 

hi.
you can press tab to navigate between focus and brows mode.
God bless you.

On 11/29/16, Babcock LDPVI <babcockldpvi@gmail.com> wrote:
I am really struggling to toggle between the browse and focus mode when
using Firefox. The shortcut "insert + spacebar" doesn't work. Has anyone
else experienced this and found a solution,

Thanks,
--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org


Re: Accessing text on web pages

 

hi.
you can press n to go to the none link text and read it from the begin
till the end with insert down in desktop or insert a in the laptop
keyboard.

one question i have!
which are the synnthesizers which firefox for narrate?
i could try it i think because i use nvda its not supported in firefox.
how is there quality?
does it need screen reader or sapi5 synthesizers too?

On 11/29/16, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
The find command in NVDA on web pages is control insert f or control and
whatever you want to use as the NVDA key f.

gene


From: Babcock LDPVI
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 7:21 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessing text on web pages


Gene:


Thanks, that is a great help. I will experiment with that. You are right,
the Ctrl + F function is a very underused power command for web pages even
for people with sight!

Another thing that I have just been experimenting with is to access the
reader view of a webpage where available. That makes accessing the text a
breeze but of course not all web pages have a "reader view" version.


In Firefox when you enter reader view, they have a narrate function that
will read the page aloud to you- this uses a screen reader built into the
browser. The voice quality is fine, but you can only access this function
via the mouse which almost defeats the purpose of it!


Thanks again.


On 29 November 2016 at 12:55, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:

Quick navigation keys such as move by heading h or skip blocks of links,
n, can often move you to the start or near the start of the main text. If
you experiment on web pages, you will find which of the two works well most
often Also, at times, you need to do something like use n to move to the
first text that is more than just a few words or a line. You may then have
to use it again because there may be, after a little text, a number of links
to like it or recommend it on various social media platforms.

Also, the find command, one of the most underused and underappreciated
commands, is useful on pages where neither h nor n works well. The title of
the web page, is usually repeated just about where the main text begins. If
you want to check the title, read the title bar, and then do a search for a
word or two in the title bar. For example, if a title says,
President Trump meets with Republican house leaders, searching for
something like trump meets will get you to the title that is about where the
text begins.

I don't know how useful working with things like landmarks are. I started
using the Internet long before such features and I never learned about them
or used them. And those who are excessively dependent on them, to the
extent that they don't know how to use methods effectively such as I
described, are then dependent on the kindness of strangers to add such
features as land marks to the site. Many sites have them but I expect that
a lot don't. In my opinion, teaching how to use such features should only
be done after the person learning demonstrates competence in using
techniques such as I discuss.

Gene
Gene----- Original Message -----
From: babcockldpvi@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 5:23 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Accessing text on web pages


Sorry, I feel like a real idiot for asking this but when I am on a web
page, what is the best way to access text on a web page. I know that you can
use the various navigation keys to cycle through the different elements on
the page, but I am stuggling to get to the main body of text and start
reading from there.




Thanks.











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Re: Accessing text on web pages

Gene
 

The find command in NVDA on web pages is control insert f or control and whatever you want to use as the NVDA key f. 
 
gene

Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 7:21 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessing text on web pages

Gene:

Thanks, that is a great help. I will experiment with that. You are right, the Ctrl + F function is a very underused power command for web pages even for people with sight!

Another thing that I have just been experimenting with is to access the reader view of a webpage where available. That makes accessing the text a breeze but of course not all web pages have a "reader view" version.

In Firefox when you enter reader view, they have a narrate function that will read the page aloud to you- this uses a screen reader built into the browser. The voice quality is fine, but you can only access this function via the mouse which almost defeats the purpose of it!

Thanks again.

On 29 November 2016 at 12:55, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
Quick navigation keys such as move by heading h or skip blocks of links, n, can often move you to the start or near the start of the main text.  If you experiment on web pages, you will find which of the two works well most often  Also, at times, you need to do something like use n to move to the first text that is more than just a few words or a line.  You may then have to use it again because there may be, after a little text, a number of links to like it or recommend it on various social media platforms. 
 
Also, the find command, one of the most underused and underappreciated commands, is useful on pages where neither h nor n works well.  The title of the web page, is usually repeated just about where the main text begins.  If you want to check the title, read the title bar, and then do a search for a word or two in the title bar.  For example, if a title says,
President Trump meets with Republican house leaders, searching for something like trump meets will get you to the title that is about where the text begins.
 
I don't know how useful working with things like landmarks are.  I started using the Internet long before such features and I never learned about them or used them.  And those who are excessively dependent on them, to the extent that they don't know how to use methods effectively such as I described, are then dependent on the kindness of strangers to add such features as land marks to the site.  Many sites have them but I expect that a lot don't.  In my opinion, teaching how to use such features should only be done after the person learning demonstrates competence in using techniques such as I discuss. 
 
Gene
Gene----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 5:23 AM
Subject: [nvda] Accessing text on web pages

Sorry, I feel like a real idiot for asking this but when I am on a web page, what is the best way to access text on a web page. I know that you can use the various navigation keys to cycle through the different elements on the page, but I am stuggling to get to the main body of text and start reading from there.


Thanks.




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Firefox Browse & Focus Mode

Babcock LDPVI
 

I am really struggling to toggle between the browse and focus mode when using Firefox. The shortcut "insert + spacebar" doesn't work. Has anyone else experienced this and found a solution,


Thanks,


Re: Accessing text on web pages

Babcock LDPVI
 

Gene:

Thanks, that is a great help. I will experiment with that. You are right, the Ctrl + F function is a very underused power command for web pages even for people with sight!

Another thing that I have just been experimenting with is to access the reader view of a webpage where available. That makes accessing the text a breeze but of course not all web pages have a "reader view" version.

In Firefox when you enter reader view, they have a narrate function that will read the page aloud to you- this uses a screen reader built into the browser. The voice quality is fine, but you can only access this function via the mouse which almost defeats the purpose of it!

Thanks again.

On 29 November 2016 at 12:55, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
Quick navigation keys such as move by heading h or skip blocks of links, n, can often move you to the start or near the start of the main text.  If you experiment on web pages, you will find which of the two works well most often  Also, at times, you need to do something like use n to move to the first text that is more than just a few words or a line.  You may then have to use it again because there may be, after a little text, a number of links to like it or recommend it on various social media platforms. 
 
Also, the find command, one of the most underused and underappreciated commands, is useful on pages where neither h nor n works well.  The title of the web page, is usually repeated just about where the main text begins.  If you want to check the title, read the title bar, and then do a search for a word or two in the title bar.  For example, if a title says,
President Trump meets with Republican house leaders, searching for something like trump meets will get you to the title that is about where the text begins.
 
I don't know how useful working with things like landmarks are.  I started using the Internet long before such features and I never learned about them or used them.  And those who are excessively dependent on them, to the extent that they don't know how to use methods effectively such as I described, are then dependent on the kindness of strangers to add such features as land marks to the site.  Many sites have them but I expect that a lot don't.  In my opinion, teaching how to use such features should only be done after the person learning demonstrates competence in using techniques such as I discuss. 
 
Gene
Gene----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 5:23 AM
Subject: [nvda] Accessing text on web pages

Sorry, I feel like a real idiot for asking this but when I am on a web page, what is the best way to access text on a web page. I know that you can use the various navigation keys to cycle through the different elements on the page, but I am stuggling to get to the main body of text and start reading from there.


Thanks.




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Second Floor | Milford House | Pynes Hill | Exeter | Devon | EX2 5GF
Tel: +441392 384819 |


Re: Accessing text on web pages

Gene
 

Quick navigation keys such as move by heading h or skip blocks of links, n, can often move you to the start or near the start of the main text.  If you experiment on web pages, you will find which of the two works well most often  Also, at times, you need to do something like use n to move to the first text that is more than just a few words or a line.  You may then have to use it again because there may be, after a little text, a number of links to like it or recommend it on various social media platforms. 
 
Also, the find command, one of the most underused and underappreciated commands, is useful on pages where neither h nor n works well.  The title of the web page, is usually repeated just about where the main text begins.  If you want to check the title, read the title bar, and then do a search for a word or two in the title bar.  For example, if a title says,
President Trump meets with Republican house leaders, searching for something like trump meets will get you to the title that is about where the text begins.
 
I don't know how useful working with things like landmarks are.  I started using the Internet long before such features and I never learned about them or used them.  And those who are excessively dependent on them, to the extent that they don't know how to use methods effectively such as I described, are then dependent on the kindness of strangers to add such features as land marks to the site.  Many sites have them but I expect that a lot don't.  In my opinion, teaching how to use such features should only be done after the person learning demonstrates competence in using techniques such as I discuss. 
 
Gene
Gene----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 5:23 AM
Subject: [nvda] Accessing text on web pages

Sorry, I feel like a real idiot for asking this but when I am on a web page, what is the best way to access text on a web page. I know that you can use the various navigation keys to cycle through the different elements on the page, but I am stuggling to get to the main body of text and start reading from there.


Thanks.


Re: Cortana

Gene
 

It doesn't use the default browser because Microsoft intentionally made it only use Edge.  It also uses Bing.  I have no idea if you can change the search engine it uses. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 2:54 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Cortana

Yes why does it not use the default browser though? This does seem a little
peculiar, unless its not actually using Edge as a browser all the time but
using its display system instead of course.
 I've yet to find it overly useful.
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "David Moore" <jesusloves1966@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 11:05 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Cortana


Hi,
You can type your questions to Cortana and receive answers to your questions
in the search results in Edge. That is how you use Cortana without a mike.
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Gene
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 5:57 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Cortana

See this discussion:
https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1271528-can-cortana-be-used-without-a-microphone/
I didn't read the entire thread but you can use Cortana, either in whole or
in part, without a microphone by typing.

I was pretty sure I had seen this discussed on another list I'm on and a
google search revealed this.

I am reluctant to say that something can't be done just because I haven't
seen any discussion that it can be when it comes to computers and working
with them. obviously, there are really things that it's obvious can't be
done because of current limits in the capability of techhnology but I
learned a long time ago that when someone would ask about something, unless
it just isn't possible, never assume. Check.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Antony Stone
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 4:42 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Cortana

I agree - it is difficult to use a speech input system without a microphone.

Antony.

On Monday 28 November 2016 at 23:37:49, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

> I think that's correct. If I'm not mistaken, you have to have a microphone
> too.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H
> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 1:56 PM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Cortana
>
> If I understand correctly you have to be logged into a Microsoft account
> to
> use this.
>
> On 11/28/2016 3:44 PM, David Moore wrote:
> > Hi everybody,
> >
> > Here are all the commands you can tell Cortana to do. Also, here are
> > also all of what you can do with Cortana. It just comes down to
> > telling her the right commands to have her do what you want.
> >
> > Here you go, read on!
> >
> > https://www.cnet.com/how-to/the-complete-list-of-cortana-commands/
> >
> > The complete list of Cortana commands
> >
> > (Almost) everything you can say to Cortana.
> >
> > The complete list of Cortana commands
> >
> > If you don't use Cortana, Microsoft's voice-activated personal
> > assistant, you're missing out on some handy, hands-free functionality
> > -- especially now
> >
> > that she's fully integrated into Windows 10, and
> >
> > Windows 10 is everywhere.
> >
> > Like Apple's Siri and Google's Google Now, Cortana is an intelligent
> > personal assistant who can help you with everything from launching
> > applications to
> >
> > scheduling appointments. She can even adjust a handful of device
> > settings, such as toggling your Wi-Fi on and off. Microsoft hasn't
> > published a full list
> >
> > of Cortana commands, so we pulled together this unofficial list of all
> > the things you can ask or say to Cortana on Windows 10 devices.
> >
> > Hey, Cortana
> >
> > There are a few ways to get Cortana's attention.
> >
> > list of 3 items
> >
> > Click or tap the Cortana button on the taskbar. If you do not see
> > Cortana on your taskbar, right-click the taskbar and go to Cortana >
> > Show Cortana icon.
> >
> > If you have 'Hey, Cortana' enabled, simply say "Hey, Cortana,"
> > followed by your question.
> >
> > Here's how to enable 'Hey, Cortana.'
> >
> > If you're using a Windows Phone, you can press and hold the search
> > button to activate Cortana.
> >
> > list end
> >
> > Basics
> >
> > list of 12 items
> >
> > Ask about the weather. Ex.: "What's the weather like?" or "What will
> > the weather be like in two days?" or "Is it going to rain tomorrow?"
> >
> > Launch a program or open a website. Ex.: "Launch Mozilla Firefox" or
> > "Open CNET.com."
> >
> > Make a phone call. Ex.: "Call Sarah," or "Call John on speakerphone."
> >
> > Hear Cortana read the top news headlines. Ex.: "Show me top headlines."
> >
> > Take a note in OneNote. Ex.: "Take a note" or "Note it down."
> >
> > Draft an email. Ex.: "Write an email to [contact] saying [message]."
> >
> > Draft a text message. Ex.: "Write a text to [contact] saying [message]."
> >
> > See texts or emails from a specific person. Ex.: "Show me emails from
> > Timmy."
> >
> > Perform simple calculations. Ex.: "What's 35 times 16?" or "What's 23
> > minus two?"
> >
> > Perform conversions. Ex.: "What is five miles in kilometers" or "How
> > many teaspoons in a cup?"
> >
> > Define a word. Ex.: "What's the definition of 'table'?" or "Do you
> > know what 'gargantuan' means?"
> >
> > Track packages (needs email account configured in the Mail app). Ex.:
> > "Where are my packages?"
> >
> > list end
> >
> > Settings
> >
> > list of 3 items
> >
> > Turn on/off Wi-Fi.
> >
> > Turn on/off Bluetooth.
> >
> > Turn on/off Airplane Mode.
> >
> > list end
> >
> > Scheduling/Reminders
> >
> > list of 7 items
> >
> > See your calendar events at a glance. Ex.: "How's my schedule looking?"
> > or "What do I have next week?" or "When is my dentist appointment?"
> >
> > Add an appointment to your calendar. Ex.: "Add dentist appointment to
> > Thursday at 3 p.m." or "Schedule phone call with Lisa tomorrow at 5
> > a.m."
> >
> > Move an appointment. Ex.: "Move my dentist appointment to Friday."
> >
> > Set up reminders based on time, person, or location. Ex.: "Remind me
> > to call Timmy at 2 p.m." or "Remind me to ask about vacation time when
> > I talk to Jenny"
> >
> > or "Remind me to take out the trash when I get home." Reminders can be
> > one-offs or recurring (e.g., every Wednesday), and location-based
> > reminders require
> >
> > a mobile device.
> >
> > Set an alarm. Ex.: "Set an alarm for 9 a.m." or "Wake me up in an hour."
> >
> > Show me my alarms.
> >
> > Ask about major holidays. Ex.: "What day is Christmas?" or "When is
> > Labor Day?"
> >
> > list end
> >
> > Search
> >
> > list of 3 items
> >
> > Find pictures, videos, documents, etc., on your device from a specific
> > time frame. Ex.: "Find pictures from last week" or "Find documents
> > from May 2015"
> >
> > or "Find videos from yesterday."
> >
> > Search files by name. Ex.: "Can you find a document called CNET?" or
> > "Can you find a picture called 'cute dog'?"
> >
> > See basic search results, such as information about public figures,
> > companies, places, and pop culture in Cortana's windows (without
> > opening a browser
> >
> > window). Ex.: "How tall is Harrison Ford?" or "Who is the CEO of
> > Google?" or "When was the Lincoln Memorial built?"
> >
> > list end
> >
> > Maps/Navigation
> >
> > list of 5 items
> >
> > Where am I?
> >
> > Show me driving/public transit/walking directions to
> > [location/landmark].
> >
> > How long will it take me to get to [location]?
> >
> > What is traffic like on the way to [location]?
> >
> > Show me a map of [location]. Ex.: "Show me a map of downtown Los
> > Angeles," or "Show me a map of the area around Disneyland."
> >
> > list end
> >
> > Entertainment
> >
> > list of 5 items
> >
> > Look up a sports score. Ex.: "What was the score of the last Detroit
> > Tigers game?"
> >
> > Find the run time of a movie. Ex.: "How long is Star Wars: Episode I?"
> >
> > Control music in the Groove app. Ex.: "Play
> > [artist/song/genre/playlist/album]," or "Shuffle the music."
> >
> > Limited control over music in other apps. Ex.: "Pause song" or "skip
> > track."
> >
> > Identify the song that's playing. Ex.: "What is this song?"
> >
> > list end
> >
> > Travel
> >
> > list of 6 items
> >
> > Track flight status (from your mail/messages). Ex.: "Is my flight on
> > time?"
> >
> > Get a five-day forecast for any location. Ex.: "How's the weather in
> > Tokyo?"
> >
> > Translate a word or phrase into a different language. Ex.: "How do you
> > say 'dog' in French?" or "How do you say 'how are you' in Japanese?"
> >
> > Convert currency. Ex.: "What's 400 reais in Euros?" or "What's 1,000
> > yen in US dollars?"
> >
> > Find the current time in another city/country. Ex.: "What time is it
> > in Los Angeles?" or "What time is it in Japan?"
> >
> > What are the seven wonders of the world?
> >
> > list end
> >
> > Random tips and tricks
> >
> > list of 15 items
> >
> > Ask Cortana about her origins, aka Halo. Ex.: "Do you love Master
> > Chief?" or "Tell me about Halo 5."
> >
> > What's up?
> >
> > What does the fox say?
> >
> > Tell me a joke.
> >
> > Where's Clippy?
> >
> > What do you think of Windows 10?
> >
> > What do you think of Google?
> >
> > Do you like Google Now?
> >
> > Who's better, you or Siri?
> >
> > Sing me a lullaby/Sing me a song.
> >
> > Rock, paper, scissors.
> >
> > Play the movie game.
> >
> > Heads or tails?
> >
> > Roll a die/dice (one die) or roll dice (two dice).
> >
> > Surprise me!
> >
> > list end
> >
> > David Moore
> >
> > *From: *Sakina <mailto:sakina.gable@...>
> > *Sent: *Monday, November 28, 2016 4:24 PM
> > *To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> > *Subject: *[nvda] Cortana
> >
> > Hello All,
> >
> > Today I read a question from one of our member asking that window key
> > and letter C does not open Cortana.
> >
> > Out of curiosity I tried it too and it did not open.
> >
> > Then the help from the member said try Shift Key Window Key and
> > letter C
> >
> > I tried it and it opened.
> >
> > A female voice asked me she needs my help to understand my needs or
> > something like that.
> >
> > I pressed escape key and came out off it as I know nothing about it.
> >
> > Please I will appreciate very much if someone can tell me what Cortana
> > does and how do I work with it. Are there any notes or step by step
> > guidance that I can follow.
> >
> > I really would like to learn and progress with technology.
> >
> > With best wishes and regards always
> >
> > Sakina







Accessing text on web pages

Babcock LDPVI
 

Sorry, I feel like a real idiot for asking this but when I am on a web page, what is the best way to access text on a web page. I know that you can use the various navigation keys to cycle through the different elements on the page, but I am stuggling to get to the main body of text and start reading from there.


Thanks.


Re: Disc cleaning and defragmenting in Windows 10

Isaac <bigikemusic@...>
 

what is your fix to remove all ribbons

----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 3:00 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Disc cleaning and defragmenting in Windows 10


Well mine won't do that, no matter how many points I show, indeed even ccleaners restor point viewer can only see the ones I a make manually. There has to be a reason for this..
Maybe its because the machine started on 7 then went to 8 now to 10 and something is screwed?
Not strictly nvda related this I know.
Incidentally I have also noticed that after certainupdates my fix for the explorer menus putting them to non ribon types gets undone back to ribbons again whch can be very offputting and require me to put them back.
Brian

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From: "Brian Vogel" <britechguy@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 3:07 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Disc cleaning and defragmenting in Windows 10


On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 01:22 am, Brian's Mail list account wrote:


that the system restore points are not being written by software or
windows updates as they are in windows 7.
Make sure that you have the checkbox for "Show More Restore Points" checked if you try to do a system restore (whether you finish it or not) or the only thing you'll see is the most recent restore point. Unless something is really off about your default Windows 10 settings you definitely get restore points for significant Windows Updates and/or uninstallation of software as well as automatic restore points the system takes and restore points when a system image is taken, too.
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Re: hearing "imbedded object" in outlook

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Normally this goes away if you view emails in plain text but yahoos html interface is to my mind a bit of a mess for the blind. It is very graphical email centred. One reason why I do not like yahoo groups.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" <knitqueen2007@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 6:08 AM
Subject: [nvda] hearing "imbedded object" in outlook


Hi, everyone,



I'm on several yahoo groups. If I'm posting to a list or if someone else is
posting, I'm hearing "imbedded object" before I hear "posted by". That
didn't happen before on my old computer. Is there a setting I might need to
change in outlook?



Thanks for your help in advance.



Rosemarie






Re: Disc cleaning and defragmenting in Windows 10

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Well mine won't do that, no matter how many points I show, indeed even ccleaners restor point viewer can only see the ones I a make manually. There has to be a reason for this..
Maybe its because the machine started on 7 then went to 8 now to 10 and something is screwed?
Not strictly nvda related this I know.
Incidentally I have also noticed that after certainupdates my fix for the explorer menus putting them to non ribon types gets undone back to ribbons again whch can be very offputting and require me to put them back.
Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Vogel" <britechguy@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 3:07 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Disc cleaning and defragmenting in Windows 10


On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 01:22 am, Brian's Mail list account wrote:


that the system restore points are not being written by software or
windows updates as they are in windows 7.
Make sure that you have the checkbox for "Show More Restore Points" checked if you try to do a system restore (whether you finish it or not) or the only thing you'll see is the most recent restore point. Unless something is really off about your default Windows 10 settings you definitely get restore points for significant Windows Updates and/or uninstallation of software as well as automatic restore points the system takes and restore points when a system image is taken, too.
--
*Brian*

*Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete. If you’re alive, it isn’t.*

~ Lauren Bacall