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Re: Microsoft Word with NVDA by NV Access now available

 

hi Quentin.
thanks so much for your patience and answering our questions in a very
good manner.
i have a question about nvda 2016.3 and text selection.
in previous versions, when we press control+f9, we starting mark our selection.
after that, when we press control+f10, our selection is copied to the clipboard.
right?
now, in the new version, as usual, when we use control+f9, we specify
our selection.
after finishing our selection, we should control+f10 twice quickly to
our selection be copied.
but what happen if we use control+f10 once like previous versions?
for example: if we use it once, is it possible to use windows regular
commands like control+x control+c and control+v?
thanks for your help and God bless you!

On 9/14/16, Cearbhall O'Meadhra <cearbhall.omeadhra@blbc.ie> wrote:
Quentin,



You say that the copy selection (F10 twice) should only move the caret if
certain objects are in focus. What does this mean?



I have tried the F9 and double F10 sequence with NVDA+6 set to "caret
moves
review cursor " "on" and "off" alternately, but the double F10 always moves
the caret to the copied text. To be sure that I am making myself clear: in
the sample, when I double click F10 to copy "Bert", I find the caret has
jumped from the last line where I removed "Brown" to the immediate right
edge of the word Bert" on the top line.



How can I get the caret to stay in place and not move up?



All the best,



Cearbhall



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Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 1:30 PM
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Subject: Re: [nvda] Microsoft Word with NVDA by NV Access now available



Cearbhall,



Well picked up! Yes that behaviour of the review cursor has changed just
this week in NVDA 2016.3, and as you've reminded me, we need to update that
sample section of the Basic Training for NVDA module.



Pressing NVDA+f10 twice (quickly) should copy the selection to the
clipboard. Depending on the type of object that has focus, selecting the
text (the first press) may move the focus you are right, but it should copy
if you press NVDA+f10 twice quickly - within say a second or less - similar
to pressing NVDA+f12 twice quickly to get the date, or pressing any of the
reading commands twice to spell something.



Kind regards



Quentin.



On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 9:52 PM, Cearbhall O'Meadhra
<cearbhall.omeadhra@blbc.ie <mailto:cearbhall.omeadhra@blbc.ie> > wrote:

Quentin,



I was trying out the free sample on the web page.



I am not fully familiar with the review cursor and so I tried to follow the
sample exercise. as I am a bit confused about the copying stroke. The
manual says insert+F9 to start the mark and then one keystroke of insert
F10
to copy it. However, NVDA keyboard help says that NVDA F10 should be
pressed
twice to copy the sleection. I also found that after pressing insert F10
twice, the caret moved to the position of the word being copied and moved
away from the last line position where it was expected to be.



I have repeated this several times with both a single insert+F10 and a
double insert+F10 and I cannot get it to work. Any advice?



All the best,



Cearbhall



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Christensen
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To: <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Microsoft Word with NVDA by NV Access now available



NV Access is very pleased to announce the release of "Microsoft Word with
NVDA", the official training material for Microsoft Word with NVDA. It
covers concepts from getting started with Word through to use of advanced
features such as customising the status ribbon and running macros.

Available from:
<http://www.nvaccess.org/product/microsoft-word-training-for-nvda/>
http://www.nvaccess.org/product/microsoft-word-training-for-nvda/ initially
in eBook formats (Braille and audio to follow) for AUD $30 (+ $3 GST in
Australia).



Microsoft Word with NVDA is the second module in the official set of
training materials for learning to use the free NVDA screen reader.
Suitable
for the new and existing user of Microsoft Word wishing to improve
proficiency. This module assumes that the user has completed the "Basic
Training for NVDA" module, or has equivalent knowledge.

Topics covered include: Getting started with Microsoft Word, proofreading,
styles, tables, page layout, referencing, inserting, collaboration and
sharing and customising Word options. Formats included in this package:
ePub, HTML, Word Docx and Mobi (Kindle).

The purchase price of this product supports the work of NV Access and our
ability to provide the NVDA screen reading software free of charge.

If you would like to sample the style of the material prior to purchasing,
we have made an extract of the Basic Training for NVDA module freely
available on our website, <http://www.nvaccess.org/>
http://www.nvaccess.org/.



--

Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer

Basic Training for NVDA E-Book now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/



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Re: Microsoft Word with NVDA by NV Access now available

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Quentin,

 

You say that the copy selection (F10 twice) should only move the caret if certain objects are in focus. What does this mean?

 

I have tried the F9 and double F10 sequence  with NVDA+6 set to “caret moves review cursor “ “on” and “off” alternately, but the double F10 always moves the caret to the copied text. To be sure that I am making myself clear: in the sample, when I double click F10 to copy “Bert”, I find the caret has jumped from the last line where I removed “Brown” to the immediate right edge of the word Bert” on the top line.

 

How can I get the caret to stay in place and not move up?

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 1:30 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Microsoft Word with NVDA by NV Access now available

 

Cearbhall,

 

Well picked up!  Yes that behaviour of the review cursor has changed just this week in NVDA 2016.3, and as you've reminded me, we need to update that sample section of the Basic Training for NVDA module.

 

Pressing NVDA+f10 twice (quickly) should copy the selection to the clipboard.  Depending on the type of object that has focus, selecting the text (the first press) may move the focus you are right, but it should copy if you press NVDA+f10 twice quickly - within say a second or less - similar to pressing NVDA+f12 twice quickly to get the date, or pressing any of the reading commands twice to spell something.

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 9:52 PM, Cearbhall O'Meadhra <cearbhall.omeadhra@...> wrote:

Quentin,

 

I was trying out the free sample on the web page.

 

I am not fully familiar with the review cursor and so I tried to follow the sample exercise.  as I am a bit confused about the copying stroke. The manual says insert+F9 to start the mark and then one keystroke of insert F10 to copy it. However, NVDA keyboard help says that NVDA F10 should be pressed twice to copy the sleection. I also found that after pressing insert F10 twice, the caret  moved to the position of the word being copied and moved away from the last line position where it was expected to be.

 

I have repeated this several times with both a single insert+F10 and a double insert+F10 and I cannot get it to work.  Any advice?

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 8:14 AM
To:
nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Microsoft Word with NVDA by NV Access now available

 

NV Access is very pleased to announce the release of "Microsoft Word with NVDA", the official training material for Microsoft Word with NVDA. It covers concepts from getting started with Word through to use of advanced features such as customising the status ribbon and running macros.

Available from: http://www.nvaccess.org/product/microsoft-word-training-for-nvda/ initially in eBook formats (Braille and audio to follow) for AUD $30 (+ $3 GST in Australia).

 

Microsoft Word with NVDA is the second module in the official set of training materials for learning to use the free NVDA screen reader. Suitable for the new and existing user of Microsoft Word wishing to improve proficiency. This module assumes that the user has completed the “Basic Training for NVDA” module, or has equivalent knowledge.

Topics covered include: Getting started with Microsoft Word, proofreading, styles, tables, page layout, referencing, inserting, collaboration and sharing and customising Word options. Formats included in this package: ePub, HTML, Word Docx and Mobi (Kindle).

The purchase price of this product supports the work of NV Access and our ability to provide the NVDA screen reading software free of charge.

If you would like to sample the style of the material prior to purchasing, we have made an extract of the Basic Training for NVDA module freely available on our website, http://www.nvaccess.org/.

 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer

Basic Training for NVDA E-Book now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

 

Direct: +61 413 904 383
www.nvaccess.org 
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Direct: +61 413 904 383
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Re: Microsoft Word with NVDA by NV Access now available

Mallard
 

Ciao Quentin,


No trouble at all. Coupon entered, book downloaded. I'm about to unzip the file and start reading.

I don't have MS Word; I use LibreOffice, but I want to collect all the NVDA ebooks to help friends when needed.


It would be nice to have some documentation about NVDA with LibreOffice, although I realise there are still accessibility issues in that suite.

They're not particularly responsive; I had a chance to participate in one of their conferences here in Milan, and there were a lot of nice words concerning accessibility and their commitment, but I have experienced otherwise whenever I have tried to contact them on this subject...

Let's hope forthe future...


Ciao, and thanks again.

Ollie

Il 14/09/2016 11:06, Quentin Christensen ha scritto:
Excellent, let us know if you have any trouble with the coupon!

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 6:49 PM, Mallard <mallard@kimabe.eu <mailto:mallard@kimabe.eu>> wrote:

Thanks Quentin,

It's been sorted out. I got a coupon, which I'm giong to use right
now.

Take care, ciao,

Ollie





Il 14/09/2016 01:04, Quentin Christensen ha scritto:

Hi Ollie,

I'm sure that will be fine, let me chase it up for you :)

Regards

Quentin.

On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 2:35 AM, Mallard <mallard@kimabe.eu
<mailto:mallard@kimabe.eu> <mailto:mallard@kimabe.eu
<mailto:mallard@kimabe.eu>>> wrote:

Hello Quentin,


I tried to buy this ebook, but I made a stupid mistake and
went
and re-bought the Basic Training ebook, whichI already have.


I wrote to Admin but, of course, you people "down under" are
sleeping now...

Do you think it would be possible to change the download link,
which I haven't used, and send me one for the Microsoft
Word ebook?


I'm a well-known "messer-upper", so please, bear with
me... lol


Ciao, and thanks for your great work.

Ollie








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Re: Microsoft Word with NVDA by NV Access now available

Quentin Christensen
 

Excellent, let us know if you have any trouble with the coupon!

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 6:49 PM, Mallard <mallard@...> wrote:
Thanks Quentin,

It's been sorted out. I got a coupon, which I'm giong to use right now.

Take care, ciao,

Ollie





Il 14/09/2016 01:04, Quentin Christensen ha scritto:
Hi Ollie,

I'm sure that will be fine, let me chase it up for you :)

Regards

Quentin.

On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 2:35 AM, Mallard <mallard@... <mailto:mallard@...>> wrote:

    Hello Quentin,


    I tried to buy this ebook, but I made a stupid mistake and went
    and re-bought the Basic Training ebook, whichI already have.


    I wrote to Admin but, of course, you people "down under" are
    sleeping now...

    Do you think it would be possible to change the download link,
    which I haven't used, and send me one for the Microsoft Word ebook?


    I'm a well-known "messer-upper", so please, bear with me... lol


    Ciao, and thanks for your great work.

    Ollie








--
Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA E-Book now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Ph +61 7 3149 3306 <tel:%2B61%207%203149%203306>
Direct: +61 413 904 383
www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org/>
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess








--
Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA E-Book now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Direct: +61 413 904 383
www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: Microsoft Word with NVDA by NV Access now available

Mallard
 

Thanks Quentin,

It's been sorted out. I got a coupon, which I'm giong to use right now.

Take care, ciao,

Ollie

Il 14/09/2016 01:04, Quentin Christensen ha scritto:
Hi Ollie,

I'm sure that will be fine, let me chase it up for you :)

Regards

Quentin.

On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 2:35 AM, Mallard <mallard@kimabe.eu <mailto:mallard@kimabe.eu>> wrote:

Hello Quentin,


I tried to buy this ebook, but I made a stupid mistake and went
and re-bought the Basic Training ebook, whichI already have.


I wrote to Admin but, of course, you people "down under" are
sleeping now...

Do you think it would be possible to change the download link,
which I haven't used, and send me one for the Microsoft Word ebook?


I'm a well-known "messer-upper", so please, bear with me... lol


Ciao, and thanks for your great work.

Ollie








--
Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA E-Book now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Ph +61 7 3149 3306 <tel:%2B61%207%203149%203306>
Direct: +61 413 904 383
www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org/>
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess


Re: OE Classic - Easy to use Outlook Express replacement

Brian's Mail list account BY <bglists@...>
 

That is right though there have been moves in the add ons area to see if anything can be done, but it will need some work from the makers, and this is the sticking block.
I am however still using Outlook Express on 7 and 10 from the hacked version. What I am not totally sure about is whether its still out there. The issue is one of rights of course. If the files are supplied separately, then you can just use normal Outlook express but its quite a complex manual installation. So the person who wrote the patch made an installer using the original code and his code which made this easy. How legal that is, is debatable. In my logical mind assuming people have had xp before I see no harm in doing this as you basically have the code already. Microsoft seem not to like it however as when I installed the anniversary update to 10, it moved the hacked Outlook express so I could not get at my emails.
You would need to back them up and restore them afterwards, as it does still work on the new 10.
For those who wonder about it, yes the old bugs in Outlook express still exist. The main annoying one was and still is that using nvda, occasionally, Outlook express thinks its short of memory and behaves as if it cannot get at message bodies or open the email editor. What one has to do as with xp is the simply use taskill and restart the executable, which leaves you in the same identity and just restarts it
.
We never did get to the bottom of this in xp , and I believe it only affect people with multiple identities not just one or two.

I am quite happy to carry on using it as to me the new versions of mail that Microsoft have invented are far less convenient to use and all are worse for accessibility,
Live mail has that enormous tree view making keeping accounts separate a real pain and oh that awful address book and dodgy field for putting in email addresses. it also had a great talent for losing all folders and had to have the computer taken back to find them again.
The internet mail and news in 7 etc, was inaccessible, as indeed is the latest one in 10. Much harder to figure out even when you can see.

Thunderbird has much the same issues as live mail but is more reliable as long as you can cope with the strange hot keys and never update to the new version.
As for the smattering of other clients out there, most seem to be very old and have issues.
I personally quite liked the google on line email but these companies keep changing the design and keys making web based email a real pain in the neck if you use more than one provider, though the filtering can be a lot better than on a client.
Brian

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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 2:31 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] OE Classic - Easy to use Outlook Express replacement


It is not accessible and it never has been. It's been around for a number of years.

Gene
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From: Pete
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 8:00 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] OE Classic - Easy to use Outlook Express replacement


https://www.oeclassic.com/

Here is an interesting solution for the people that do not want to
give up outlook express.
I wonder how it works with nvda.
Some text about it is belo.
Pete
OE Classic - Replacement for Outlook Express

OE Classic is an email and Usenet reader designed to be a perfect
replacement for Outlook Express, Windows Mail, Windows Live Mail and
even Mozilla Thunderbird.

The ultimate goal of OE Classic is to be an easy to use, fast, small and
secure program with lots of power features and yet, easy to use for a
beginner.
Your data always belongs to you as it is stored in a public-domain
format and there are no storage size limits.

Download OE Classic 2.51For Windows 10, Windows 8, Windows 7, Windows
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How does OE Classic compare to Outlook Express, Windows Mail and Windows
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Windows Mail
Windows Live Mail 2009-2012
OE Classic
User interface
Simple
Simple, but some features missing like identities
More features missing, ribbons, unintuitive, takes more time for the
former Outlook Express user to get used to
Easy to use, very similar to Outlook Express
Identities
Yes
No
No
Yes (Pro version)
Message rules
Very limiting
Very limiting
Very limiting
Comprehensive set of rules and actions, easy to use
Address book
Windows Address Book (WAB)
Windows Contacts
Windows Contacts
Built-in
Message storage
Undocumented (closed source) proprietary database with access interface
(API) (DBX format)
Proprietary database with access interface (API) (EML/ESE/JetBlue format)
Proprietary database without access interface, your emails are locked in
proprietary database - this makes it difficult to export data
(EML/ESE/JetBlue format)
Public domain database formats (your email data belongs to you), all
formats are documented in the help (SQLite/MBX format)
Supported OS
Windows XP (and older)
Windows Vista only
Windows XP, Windows Vista, Windows 7 (2009)

Windows Vista, Windows 7, Windows 8 (2011)

Windows 7, Windows 8 (2012)
All modern Windows (and future Windows), Windows 10, Windows 8, Windows
7, Windows Vista, Windows XP, Windows 2000
Up to date
No
(only for Windows XP)
No
(only for Windows Vista)
No
(latest version 2012)
Yes
(actively developed and improved)
Folder limits
Only 2 GB (corruption may occur beyond this, quite easily exceeded)
Unknown
Unknown
No (limited only by disk size)
Secure message storage
No (possible folder corruption, especially with Compact function)
Unknown
Unknown
Yes (crash proof message saving, can even handle power-off in the middle
of message save)
User support
No
No
No
Quick and dedicated support directly from developers (read full benefits
on order page)
Easily move messages/data to new machine
No (needs third party programs)
No (needs third party programs)
No (needs third party programs)
Yes
Can you request new features?
No
No
No
Yes (paid users)
Price
Free with Windows XP purchase (bundled)
Free with Windows Vista purchase (bundled)
Free
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table end

Download on
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Re: RE dropbox with XP

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No problems with dropbox on win7 or 10, or at present in xp either if the registry mod is done. On the dropbox web site there are some very easy instructions about shared folders and how they work and how you invite others to join one. Of course for the free service you get limited storage and to some extent limited facilities, but there is no problem sharing the files in this way so everyone can change them,you an even see when they were changed and by whom.

I'm assuming this is the reason they use Dropbox. If you are on a slow connection also be aware that the files are not sent in order, they are sent in size order, the smallest first.
Brian

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Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 2:49 PM
Subject: [nvda] RE dropbox with XP


Hello NVDA group,

I did not catch all the previous discussion concerning dropbox, but am
wondering are dropbox and the current version of NVDA compatible on
Win7 computers?

Also, is there a review or tutorial online that will teach one how to
access and use dropbox?

I belong to an online writing group, and part of its practice is to
use dropbox for written submissions. Thanks.

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Re: Finding in MS Word

Christo Vorster
 

Hi everyone

 

I used to use ctrl+f for find in Word.

 

Since I got the advice on search that circulated lately on the list I started using it as it was set out in the list. It works fantastically well.

 

I don’t think that hitting F6 several times is really the answer, rather use the escape and ctrl+pgdn, as described.

 

Thanks for all the input from all the listers.

 

Have a nice day

 

Christo Vorster (Worcester, South Africa)

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of mohammad suliman
Sent: Friday, 09 September 2016 12:52 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Finding in MS Word

 

I can confirm this also. Windows 7 and office 2010

here are some tips to work with the find functionality of word 2010:

  • hit ctrl + f to go to the search field
  • enter the term you wish to search for, and hit enter
  • use f6 (several times, maybe 3) to get back to the document, where the first result is focused
  • to go to next / previous search result: hit f6, the focus will jump to the navigation toolbar, from there click previous / next search result
  • again, use f6, several times, as needed, to get back to the document where the search result is focused

 

I don't know the shortcuts for previous / next search result, sorry!

hope that helps!

 

On Fri, 9 Sep 2016 at 01:11 kelby carlson <kelbycarlson@...> wrote:

This is something that's pretty important for me to be able to do for
work (I suspect that's the case for many here.) If anyone has the
solution I would appreciate it.

On 9/8/16, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:
> I can confirm that I am not having any luck invoking the NVDA find via
> INS+CTRL+F at this point in time using Windows 10 64-bit home, the latest
> build of NVDA - 2016.3, and Microsoft Word 2010.
>
> This has not been the case in the past and I don't think I'm doing anything
> differently than I had been before.  I have, regardless of screen reader,
> had many instances where I didn't seem to get the screen reader find with
> INS+CTRL+F but generally would on a subsequent try.  Not in this case.  I
> smell a possible bug.
> --
> Brian
>
> I worry a lot. . . I worry that no matter how cynical you become it's never
> enough to keep up.
>          ~ Trudy, in Jane Wagner's "Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in
> the Universe"
>



Re: microsoft word 2-16 and outlook 2016:

 

I would use something other than ms outlook.
Unless it can be fixed.
I abandond ms office ages ago.
In fact I think if I ever hit the need for office that I will either use old office xp which I legally own or one of the free office installs.
I do know that office 2007 or 2010 will work and with the features I use I don't need the cloud office apps and so won't run into a problem.
Since I do have jarte though its about all I will need.
If libreoffice works well or openoffice that is then I will probably use that.
True, if someone offers me office whatever the latest is and its funded for my business then hmmm.
Maybe I will use jaws because thats what people do for office and just use nvda for my personal use but I'd really like to use nvda for as much as I can.
Technically I could use my other comercial readers but since nvda needs to be used on a lot of things well.
I have got used to the ribbon in office and the shortcuts and it works as it should as long as I know the various code sequences.

On 14/09/2016 5:34 p.m., Pranav Lal wrote:
Hi Paul,

I have indeed resorted to writing my replies in Notepad and pasting
them into Outlook. However, It is one more step and what if I have to
quote parts of a message? More formatting issues for one thing when I
transfer data between programs. So yes, there are workarounds but this
situation must be addressed.

On 9/14/16, Paul Benson <paul.benson@guidemail.co.uk> wrote:
Hello Pranav and all,

Thoroughly annoying when the half-composed message is lost. Perhaps a plan B
is available? Compose the reply message in Notepad or similar and only open
up Outlook to copy the completed reply from clipboard into the required
location. This also allows simple regular updates while composing.

Paul Benson.

-----Original Message-----
From: Pranav Lal - Email Address: pranav.lal@gmail.com
Sent On: 14/09/2016 02:09
Sent To: nvda@nvda.groups.io - Email Address: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] microsoft word 2-16 and outlook 2016:

Kenny,



Outlook 2016 works with NVDA but there is one issue which renders it almost
unusable. At least on my computer, when composing a message or replying to
a
message, NVDA locks up randomly. The only way to recover is to reboot the
computer. I have raised tickets about this problem.



Pranav

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kenny
Peyattt jr.
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 10:46 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] microsoft word 2-16 and outlook 2016:



Hi how well does outlook and Microsoft word 2016 work with nvda? I am
planning
on upgrading to office 2016 soon, and I was wondering how accessible
Microsoft
outlook 2016 is.

Kenny Peyattt jr.







Re: INSERT F RESPONDING IRREGULARLY

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Christo,

Have you got the review cursor following the system caret?  When you press NVDA+f it actually reads the formatting information at the review cursor, not the system caret.  With the two linked, the results are the usually the same, but what you're describing sounds like the two cursors are in different places.

If you go into the NVDA menu, NVDA+n then press P then go down to "Review cursor", there are options for when the review cursor moves.  You can also press NVDA+6 to toggle whether the caret moves the review cursor.

Regards

Quentin.

On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 3:35 PM, Christo Vorster <christo.vorster@...> wrote:

Hi Group

 

Since the update to NVDA 2016.2.1 we encounterd strange behaviour when using insert f to read the font attributes.

 

Sometimes I hear what I need to, but more often than not I hear anything but the required response.

 

We are currently using NVDA 2016.3, Office 2010 and Windows 10.

 

Some of the responses I get are:

 

1.       “No formatting information”, when I know that there should be information.

2.       “Arial 20 PT”, when I know for a fact it should be 12 Pt, because I checked in the font menu, ctrl+d.

3.       Often I change alignment, centre or right aligned, and insert F simply don’t announce it.

We are training students to do word processing and it is highly important for them to be able to confirm that they did what they are required.

 

Could the experts please assist us.

 

If you require more info, please ask.

 

Thanks for all the good work you do.

 

Regards and have a nice day.

 

Christo Vorster (Worcester, South Africa)

 

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INSERT F RESPONDING IRREGULARLY

Christo Vorster
 

Hi Group

 

Since the update to NVDA 2016.2.1 we encounterd strange behaviour when using insert f to read the font attributes.

 

Sometimes I hear what I need to, but more often than not I hear anything but the required response.

 

We are currently using NVDA 2016.3, Office 2010 and Windows 10.

 

Some of the responses I get are:

 

1.       “No formatting information”, when I know that there should be information.

2.       “Arial 20 PT”, when I know for a fact it should be 12 Pt, because I checked in the font menu, ctrl+d.

3.       Often I change alignment, centre or right aligned, and insert F simply don’t announce it.

We are training students to do word processing and it is highly important for them to be able to confirm that they did what they are required.

 

Could the experts please assist us.

 

If you require more info, please ask.

 

Thanks for all the good work you do.

 

Regards and have a nice day.

 

Christo Vorster (Worcester, South Africa)

 

Christo Vorster

Dosent: Kaleidoskoop Opleidingskollege

Lecturer: Kaleidoscope Training College

 

T: 023 348 7634

C: 079 512 2856

F: 023 348 7633

E: christo@...

W: www.kaleidoscopesa.org

Adderleystraat 20 Adderley Street

Posbus 233 P.O. Box, Worcester, 6849

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: microsoft word 2-16 and outlook 2016:

Pranav Lal
 

Hi Paul,

I have indeed resorted to writing my replies in Notepad and pasting
them into Outlook. However, It is one more step and what if I have to
quote parts of a message? More formatting issues for one thing when I
transfer data between programs. So yes, there are workarounds but this
situation must be addressed.

On 9/14/16, Paul Benson <paul.benson@guidemail.co.uk> wrote:
Hello Pranav and all,

Thoroughly annoying when the half-composed message is lost. Perhaps a plan B
is available? Compose the reply message in Notepad or similar and only open
up Outlook to copy the completed reply from clipboard into the required
location. This also allows simple regular updates while composing.

Paul Benson.

-----Original Message-----
From: Pranav Lal - Email Address: pranav.lal@gmail.com
Sent On: 14/09/2016 02:09
Sent To: nvda@nvda.groups.io - Email Address: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] microsoft word 2-16 and outlook 2016:

Kenny,



Outlook 2016 works with NVDA but there is one issue which renders it almost
unusable. At least on my computer, when composing a message or replying to
a
message, NVDA locks up randomly. The only way to recover is to reboot the
computer. I have raised tickets about this problem.



Pranav

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kenny
Peyattt jr.
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 10:46 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] microsoft word 2-16 and outlook 2016:



Hi how well does outlook and Microsoft word 2016 work with nvda? I am
planning
on upgrading to office 2016 soon, and I was wondering how accessible
Microsoft
outlook 2016 is.

Kenny Peyattt jr.






Re: IMAP mail rules in gmail using NVDA

 

Found my step-by-step instructions in my archive, so since attachments aren't supported here I'm posting a direct download link to them on Google Drive.  The file is in PDF format.

Creating Labels/Folders & Filters for Gmail
--
Brian

I worry a lot. . . I worry that no matter how cynical you become it's never enough to keep up.

         ~ Trudy, in Jane Wagner's "Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe"

    



Re: IMAP mail rules in gmail using NVDA

 

Ketan,

        All folder and rule setup for IMAP is generally done on the e-mail server and in the case of Gmail that means using their webmail interface, settings page, Filters and Blocked Addresses "tab"/link.

        I know that I posted step-by-step stuff on this at one point and can try to find it again if needed.  Be aware that what most of the world would call an e-mail folder Gmail terms a "label."  Labels are implemented as IMAP folders and I have no idea what possessed Google to call them labels instead.  You can create all these labels/folders before you do your filters if you so wish (and it is easier if you know what you want as far as folders) by using the Labels tab/link.
--
Brian

I worry a lot. . . I worry that no matter how cynical you become it's never enough to keep up.

         ~ Trudy, in Jane Wagner's "Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe"

    



IMAP mail rules in gmail using NVDA

Ketan Kothari
 

Hi friends,

I am planning to set up my gmail account as an IMAP with windows live
mail. I want my mails to organize in different folders. How can I
create rules online using NVDA? Please do help. Thank you.

Ketan

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Re: microsoft word 2-16 and outlook 2016:

Paul Benson
 

Hello Pranav and all,

Thoroughly annoying when the half-composed message is lost. Perhaps a plan B is available? Compose the reply message in Notepad or similar and only open up Outlook to copy the completed reply from clipboard into the required location. This also allows simple regular updates while composing.

Paul Benson.

-----Original Message-----
From: Pranav Lal - Email Address: pranav.lal@gmail.com
Sent On: 14/09/2016 02:09
Sent To: nvda@nvda.groups.io - Email Address: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] microsoft word 2-16 and outlook 2016:

Kenny,



Outlook 2016 works with NVDA but there is one issue which renders it almost
unusable. At least on my computer, when composing a message or replying to a
message, NVDA locks up randomly. The only way to recover is to reboot the
computer. I have raised tickets about this problem.



Pranav

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kenny
Peyattt jr.
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 10:46 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] microsoft word 2-16 and outlook 2016:



Hi how well does outlook and Microsoft word 2016 work with nvda? I am planning
on upgrading to office 2016 soon, and I was wondering how accessible Microsoft
outlook 2016 is.

Kenny Peyattt jr.


Re: microsoft word 2-16 and outlook 2016:

Pranav Lal
 

Kenny,

 

Outlook 2016 works with NVDA but there is one issue which renders it almost unusable. At least on my computer, when composing a message or replying to a message, NVDA locks up randomly. The only way to recover is to reboot the computer. I have raised tickets about this problem.

 

Pranav

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kenny Peyattt jr.
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 10:46 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] microsoft word 2-16 and outlook 2016:

 

Hi how well does outlook and Microsoft word 2016 work with nvda? I am planning on upgrading to office 2016 soon, and I was wondering how accessible Microsoft outlook 2016 is.

Kenny Peyattt jr.


Re: break copyright. Re: [nvda] Microsoft Word with NVDA by NV Access now available

Jenine Stanley
 

Just bought my copy and am looking forward to reading it. 

I’m also looking forward to the Excel book. I use Excel every day for work and want to be able to expand what I can do with it. I love the way NVDA works within Excel 2007 and we only use it as a giant database. 

Yes, Power Point would be awesome to tackle next along with Outlook. I especially need big help with the Outlook calendar. We live on that calendar at work and short of setting up an initial appointment, its layout stumps me.
Jenine Stanley



On Sep 13, 2016, at 8:32 PM, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:

Fantastic, glad you got your order sorted Shaun,

Re Word, there's actually quite a lot of interesting features that to be honest I hadn't completely explored before I dove into writing the material myself.

Excel is the next module we're working on.  We haven't mapped out a specific plan for exactly what to tackle after that.  We've definitely talked about both PowerPoint and Outlook.  LibreOffice has come up a couple of times in this and other threads lately so we might need to evaluate where the most interest and need lies.

Regards

Quentin.

On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 10:24 AM, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@...> wrote:
Well I have it now.
Looks like after all the hastles with orders that I only got 1 recipt and so that worked.
I havn't run word in ages but I like to buy to support and get a manual which I can use myself.
I did do wordprocessing and well that sort of thing.
I really wouldn't mind a guide for spreadsheets like excell, outlook, powerpoint, and maybe libre and open office.
I never completed my spreadsheeting course because the person I got to help was useless and basically couldn't find how to handle it with the keyboard they did it all for me with the mouse.
As a result I passed the theory but have no practical experience at all.




On 13/09/2016 10:56 p.m., Simone Dal Maso wrote:
This is really a useful documentation.
I will buy it during these days, I have a question:
if I translate the document in italian, do you think I will break
copyright?
I really don't want to make things that can create problems to me or
NvAccess, but this kind of document is very useful, what do you think
about this, translating in other languages?




Il 13/09/2016 09:14, Quentin Christensen ha scritto:
NV Access is very pleased to announce the release of "Microsoft Word
with NVDA", the official training material for Microsoft Word with NVDA.
It covers concepts from getting started with Word through to use of
advanced features such as customising the status ribbon and running
macros.

Available from:
http://www.nvaccess.org/product/microsoft-word-training-for-nvda/
initially in eBook formats (Braille and audio to follow) for AUD $30 (+
$3 GST in Australia).


Microsoft Word with NVDA is the second module in the official set of
training materials for learning to use the free NVDA screen reader.
Suitable for the new and existing user of Microsoft Word wishing to
improve proficiency. This module assumes that the user has completed the
“Basic Training for NVDA” module, or has equivalent knowledge.

Topics covered include: Getting started with Microsoft Word,
proofreading, styles, tables, page layout, referencing, inserting,
collaboration and sharing and customising Word options. Formats included
in this package: ePub, HTML, Word Docx and Mobi (Kindle).

The purchase price of this product supports the work of NV Access and
our ability to provide the NVDA screen reading software free of charge.

If you would like to sample the style of the material prior to
purchasing, we have made an extract of the Basic Training for NVDA
module freely available on our website, http://www.nvaccess.org/.


--
Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA E-Book now available:
http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Ph +61 7 3149 3306 <tel:%2B61%207%203149%203306>
Direct: +61 413 904 383
www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org/>
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess





.







-- 
Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA E-Book now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Direct: +61 413 904 383
www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 



Re: break copyright. Re: [nvda] Microsoft Word with NVDA by NV Access now available

Quentin Christensen
 

Fantastic, glad you got your order sorted Shaun,

Re Word, there's actually quite a lot of interesting features that to be honest I hadn't completely explored before I dove into writing the material myself.

Excel is the next module we're working on.  We haven't mapped out a specific plan for exactly what to tackle after that.  We've definitely talked about both PowerPoint and Outlook.  LibreOffice has come up a couple of times in this and other threads lately so we might need to evaluate where the most interest and need lies.

Regards

Quentin.

On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 10:24 AM, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@...> wrote:
Well I have it now.
Looks like after all the hastles with orders that I only got 1 recipt and so that worked.
I havn't run word in ages but I like to buy to support and get a manual which I can use myself.
I did do wordprocessing and well that sort of thing.
I really wouldn't mind a guide for spreadsheets like excell, outlook, powerpoint, and maybe libre and open office.
I never completed my spreadsheeting course because the person I got to help was useless and basically couldn't find how to handle it with the keyboard they did it all for me with the mouse.
As a result I passed the theory but have no practical experience at all.




On 13/09/2016 10:56 p.m., Simone Dal Maso wrote:
This is really a useful documentation.
I will buy it during these days, I have a question:
if I translate the document in italian, do you think I will break
copyright?
I really don't want to make things that can create problems to me or
NvAccess, but this kind of document is very useful, what do you think
about this, translating in other languages?




Il 13/09/2016 09:14, Quentin Christensen ha scritto:
NV Access is very pleased to announce the release of "Microsoft Word
with NVDA", the official training material for Microsoft Word with NVDA.
It covers concepts from getting started with Word through to use of
advanced features such as customising the status ribbon and running
macros.

Available from:
http://www.nvaccess.org/product/microsoft-word-training-for-nvda/
initially in eBook formats (Braille and audio to follow) for AUD $30 (+
$3 GST in Australia).


Microsoft Word with NVDA is the second module in the official set of
training materials for learning to use the free NVDA screen reader.
Suitable for the new and existing user of Microsoft Word wishing to
improve proficiency. This module assumes that the user has completed the
“Basic Training for NVDA” module, or has equivalent knowledge.

Topics covered include: Getting started with Microsoft Word,
proofreading, styles, tables, page layout, referencing, inserting,
collaboration and sharing and customising Word options. Formats included
in this package: ePub, HTML, Word Docx and Mobi (Kindle).

The purchase price of this product supports the work of NV Access and
our ability to provide the NVDA screen reading software free of charge.

If you would like to sample the style of the material prior to
purchasing, we have made an extract of the Basic Training for NVDA
module freely available on our website, http://www.nvaccess.org/.


--
Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA E-Book now available:
http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Ph +61 7 3149 3306 <tel:%2B61%207%203149%203306>
Direct: +61 413 904 383
www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org/>
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess





.







--
Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA E-Book now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Direct: +61 413 904 383
www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: break copyright. Re: [nvda] Microsoft Word with NVDA by NV Access now available

 

Well I have it now.
Looks like after all the hastles with orders that I only got 1 recipt and so that worked.
I havn't run word in ages but I like to buy to support and get a manual which I can use myself.
I did do wordprocessing and well that sort of thing.
I really wouldn't mind a guide for spreadsheets like excell, outlook, powerpoint, and maybe libre and open office.
I never completed my spreadsheeting course because the person I got to help was useless and basically couldn't find how to handle it with the keyboard they did it all for me with the mouse.
As a result I passed the theory but have no practical experience at all.

On 13/09/2016 10:56 p.m., Simone Dal Maso wrote:
This is really a useful documentation.
I will buy it during these days, I have a question:
if I translate the document in italian, do you think I will break
copyright?
I really don't want to make things that can create problems to me or
NvAccess, but this kind of document is very useful, what do you think
about this, translating in other languages?




Il 13/09/2016 09:14, Quentin Christensen ha scritto:
NV Access is very pleased to announce the release of "Microsoft Word
with NVDA", the official training material for Microsoft Word with NVDA.
It covers concepts from getting started with Word through to use of
advanced features such as customising the status ribbon and running
macros.

Available from:
http://www.nvaccess.org/product/microsoft-word-training-for-nvda/
initially in eBook formats (Braille and audio to follow) for AUD $30 (+
$3 GST in Australia).


Microsoft Word with NVDA is the second module in the official set of
training materials for learning to use the free NVDA screen reader.
Suitable for the new and existing user of Microsoft Word wishing to
improve proficiency. This module assumes that the user has completed the
“Basic Training for NVDA” module, or has equivalent knowledge.

Topics covered include: Getting started with Microsoft Word,
proofreading, styles, tables, page layout, referencing, inserting,
collaboration and sharing and customising Word options. Formats included
in this package: ePub, HTML, Word Docx and Mobi (Kindle).

The purchase price of this product supports the work of NV Access and
our ability to provide the NVDA screen reading software free of charge.

If you would like to sample the style of the material prior to
purchasing, we have made an extract of the Basic Training for NVDA
module freely available on our website, http://www.nvaccess.org/.


--
Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA E-Book now available:
http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Ph +61 7 3149 3306 <tel:%2B61%207%203149%203306>
Direct: +61 413 904 383
www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org/>
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess


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