I'm looking to make simpler some things in 10. I find having to search
for stuff long winded and also access via a huge tree of interconnected
dialogues is also a bit slow.
For example, how can one get to just a list of drives on the computer,
how can one get to the main screen of windows defender to do manual scans.
These are just two of the things I can do in windows 7, very easily,
but seem to be very irritatingly awkward on 10.
I have found the sound level of running programs dialogue and put a
shortcut to it, and this works, but in many cases in 10, despite classic
shell, and being an admin, I get blocked by you are not allowed to do
this or that, but when it is accessed via loads of menues links and
whatever, it goes there quite happily.
I seldom myself use start menu, preferring to get things either ron the
desktop or to put a folder of the shortcuts on the desktop. This saves a
lot of messing about in searches and scrolling up and down start menus
to find its been listed under some daft letter rather than the logical one.
Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.


.

I find most of the time, even in xp I seldom used the start menu,
preferring to make shortcuts eithe directly on the desktop or in a
shortcut to a folder of shortcuts for the less used stuff. This of
course was easier in xp as you could access all areas, but in 7 and 10,
this s seems to be an issue where you cannot get at the folder with the
start menu shortcuts in it, forcing you either to find the executable
and make one or to try to hack into the security settings. its a good
job my hair is already white!
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Shaun Everiss" <sm.everiss@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 11:31 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,

AAh yeah I agree on search even in 7 I havn't used file search that
much unless I have a large list.
Ok so maybe I need to practice the start menu a bit more maybe I just
need to get used to it.



On 21/05/2016 9:51 p.m., Pete wrote:

hi Shaun

The apps thing is a big list of all the programs installed on your
computer. You can navigate using down and up arrow keys. Use the
application key for pinning to start screen / etc. I like the start
screen, kind of like a second desktop. I unpinned every thing from it
and just pinned what I wanted up there. I just have recycle bin on the
desktop. Recycle bin can be hidden or removed from the desktop I think.

I don't care for the file manager with the search! I mean come on how
many search boxes do we really need?

I'll even go as far as I like the start screen better than the start
menus from 98 and up. It's the greatest thing m s has done in a long
while.

Pete

On 5/21/2016 3:24 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:

Well to be honest, I upgraded 1 machine to 10 that I have access to.
Here is where I stand with 10.
When I do eventually upgrade I am confident that with all the advances
with features, lockscreens, and other things that I can probably use
10 at least the desktop with vary little modification to the registry.
While now that the system has done with indexing I can do single
letter search in start and it actually comes up fine.
3. I am confidant that with all the things ms has at least for the
desktop I will be fine.
5. I know some of my way round bits of the new ribbon.
6. I am sure with ribbon disabler, and classic shell I may be able to
make it look 7 like.
6. I think I am getting used to the task manager bits of action
centre and settings.
What I havn't figured out are the apps just yet or the ms account
thing.
I think in the short term if I need to I will be able to use 10
without any real issue.



On 21/05/2016 9:31 a.m., Scott VanDeWalle wrote:

i am positibve that all will be working well within the next little
bit,
as in maybe the next few official win 10 updates. Ms keeps saying by
the end of this year.
So let's all hope so.

Scott
Original message:

I found Edge very annoying, too, when I first upgraded to Windows 10.
Although I would set Firefox as default it would still popup as
settings. I tried to uninstall it but could not. I took it to a
computer shop and they at least they got rid of the settings popup. I
avoid using Cortana just because of Edge. Google is my homepage and
search engine.

On 5/20/16, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:

There are certain things that only work with Edge regardless of
whether you
had a choice before. Recently, Microsoft made certain things use
Edge
regardless of what is set as the default browser. There may only be
two of
these things. I know one had something to do with search, perhaps
searching
somehow in the start menu. Whatever the case, if you set another
browser as
the default and something brings up Edge, then you probably have no
choice
but to do whatever you want to do directly from within the browser
you want
to use.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Pascal Lambert
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,

Greetings,

I find Edge very slow, it takes few mins to have voice feedback when
it is
launched. I tried to get rid of it and make Firefox the default
but it
comes back in certain situations. Is there a way to completely
disabled it?
I prefer using Firefox even though lately it is having problem with
Flash
player acting strangely. Any suggestions on these issues is greatly
appreciated.

Many thanks

Blessings

Pascal

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that
aren't
links

There is more than just speed to consider. Firefox still uses a
different
interface and it is a more convenient interface. Chrome shows all
sorts of
things such as history and settings as web pages. Firefox has a lot
more
add ons. Firefox has a document reading feature that blind people
can use.
I tried using a Chrome add on for this purpose and I couldn't use
it. I
don't know if there are other Chrome add ons that implement this
feature.

It appears to me that Chrome hasn't even put short cut commands on
some or
many of its menu items. That sore of thing is and has been standard
since
the mid-nineties.

Gene

From: P. Otter

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 11:54 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that
aren't
links

ofr me it's the same!

chrome is in the most situations nice and quick, more than most
other
browsers.

google has made accessibility extentions it is recommanded to
install
for
example the extention that let you navigate with the arrow keys.

cheers

paul otter

----- Original Message -----

From: Bobby

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 6:36 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that
aren't
links

Hay very good news google crome is now accessible as well. I now
use it
as my default browser

On 5/20/2016 12:32 PM, Peter Beasley wrote:

That browser is not fully accessible. Use internet explorer or
Mozilla
firefox.

From: ken lawrence via Groups.io

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 4:16 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that
aren't
links

Hi listers ken here have a vexing problem. on two local radio
stations
namely WOLD-lp, and WMGQ in NJ I can’t seem to find the listen
live. on
WOLD the problem is simpler. the listen live appears as a heading,
but not
as a link, clickable graphic or button just the words listen live.
this is
the only way to listen to the station without tunein radio since
they
have
change from a winamp based stream to a flash based popup player.
they have
changed stream providors. what must they do to make there stream
appear as
a link and not just the words listen live? then on Magic 98.3 the
problem
is even stranger. in order to listen to all greater-media owned
stations
you must register for their listener clubs. in the case of magic
98.3
additionally you are only able to listen to them if you live in NJ,
Pa area.
same with active rock station WDHA in dover NJ. must assume the
same
condition is true with WRAT the jersey shore based rocker. I have
tried on
three different browsers to log into the station and the listen
live is
nowhere. no button, no links, no graphics. there are listen links
connected to interviews/features but not the stream. didn’t try the
word
play but no play buttons exist then just now using the edge browser
with
NVDA clearly hit the letter f found the edit field, but when
entered the
stupid site thought Oh you searched for your email address, sorry no
such
thing. so edge is obviously out since NVDA can’t seem to focus on
the right
edit field. so my question is this, how do I advise the webmasters
of both
radio stations? especially magic 98.3 since I’m technically a music
club
member? the websites for both are www.woldradio.com for oldies
107.9
and
www.magic983.com for WMGQ. perhaps someone with partial sight can
advise on
this one. is it a fix on my end possibly?

--
We have probed the Earth, excavated it, burned it, ripped things from
it, buried things in it... That does not fit my definition of a good
tenant. If we were here on a month-to-month basis, we would have been
evicted long ago.
-Rose Bird

.

Hi Mallard and Others,


This add on does in fact work, but I have some questions. First of all, the Drop Box link you sent was the new version, but when I installed it, it asked for an additional update. This went fine. However, all the previously entered codes are invalid. I had to import a new code for my default city. I like the idea of being able to set up temporary cities to see what the weather is like around the nation and the world. Every old code from the previous installation is invalid. I don't see any way of updating these codes other than deleting all of them and then reestablishing them. Am I missing something?



On 5/22/2016 8:45 AM, Mallard wrote:

Hello there Bhavya and all,


Here's a link to my Dropbox with the new, latest version of Weather+ add-on.

It's 3.8, if memory serves.

I haven't installed it yet, so I can't give any help on it.


https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3918790/Weather%20Plus3.8.nvda-addon


Ciao,

Ollie





Il 21/05/2016 22:10, Bhavya shah ha scritto:

Dear all,
I am looking for the Weather+ NVDA add-on, which still works as
opposed to the currently non-functional Weather+ add-on.
I believe it is available on NVDA's Italian website, i.e. nvda.it, but
it seems that this website is down at the moment.
Therefore, it would be really appreciated if someone could upload the
NVDA add-on package of Weather+ and share its download link.
I woudl appreciate any assistance.
Thanks.

--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"

Hi Mallard and Others,

This add on does in fact work, but I have some questions.  First of all, the Drop Box link you sent was the new version, but when I installed it, it asked for an additional update.  This went fine.  However, all the previously entered codes are invalid.  I had to import a new code for my default city.  I like the idea of being able to set up temporary cities to see what the weather is like around the nation and the world.  Every old code from the previous installation is invalid.  I don't see any way of updating these codes other than deleting all of them and then reestablishing them.  Am I  missing something?

On 5/22/2016 8:45 AM, Mallard wrote:

Hello there Bhavya and all,


Here's a link to my Dropbox with the new, latest version of Weather+ add-on.

It's 3.8, if memory serves.

I haven't installed it yet, so I can't give any help on it.


https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3918790/Weather%20Plus3.8.nvda-addon


Ciao,

Ollie





Il 21/05/2016 22:10, Bhavya shah ha scritto:

Dear all,
I am looking for the Weather+ NVDA add-on, which still works as
opposed to the currently non-functional Weather+ add-on.
I believe it is available on NVDA's Italian website, i.e. nvda.it, but
it seems that this website is down at the moment.
Therefore, it would be really appreciated if someone could upload the
NVDA add-on package of Weather+ and share its download link.
I woudl appreciate any assistance.
Thanks.

--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"

Dear all,
I am looking for the Weather+ NVDA add-on, which still works as
opposed to the currently non-functional Weather+ add-on.
I believe it is available on NVDA's Italian website, i.e. nvda.it, but
it seems that this website is down at the moment.
Therefore, it would be really appreciated if someone could upload the
NVDA add-on package of Weather+ and share its download link.
I woudl appreciate any assistance.
Thanks.

Hello once more,

Thank you for your responses, for I enjoyed reading them a lot!

Further specs: My Web browser is the latest version of Firefox (even
though a sighted friend told me that Google Chrome was better), my
default media player is Windows Media Player 12 (not The Groove Music
from Windows 10), and Gmail is the only e-mail source I use.  Since
Windows 10 doesn't come with the Sound Recorder program like how
previous versions of Windows does, I'm missing it a lot because I use
it for Podcasting and other projects.  Can any Windows 10 user
recommend any sound-recording program that would work well with it +
NVDA?  I'd appreciate your feedback so much.

Just FYI: I have no usable vision in both eyes to read large print so
I'm totally dependent on NVDA to do all my reading out loud for me.

Take care, and have a good day.

sincerely,

Jolene.

Hello once more,

Thank you for your responses, for I enjoyed reading them a lot!

Further specs: My Web browser is the latest version of Firefox (even
though a sighted friend told me that Google Chrome was better), my
default media player is Windows Media Player 12 (not The Groove Music
from Windows 10), and Gmail is the only e-mail source I use.  Since
Windows 10 doesn't come with the Sound Recorder program like how
previous versions of Windows does, I'm missing it a lot because I use
it for Podcasting and other projects.  Can any Windows 10 user
recommend any sound-recording program that would work well with it +
NVDA?  I'd appreciate your feedback so much.

Just FYI: I have no usable vision in both eyes to read large print so
I'm totally dependent on NVDA to do all my reading out loud for me.

Take care, and have a good day.

sincerely,

Jolene.

Hi Gene,
Oddly enough, I received your mail thrice.
Anyways, it being NVDA's 10th anniversary, NV Access had indicated a
potential delay in releasing NVDA 2015.2, and that is confirmed by a
slightly late translation freeze.
All the same, we hopefully will have NVDA 2016.2 live soon enough.
Thanks.

On 5/21/16, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@outlook.co.nz> wrote:

Hi

Usually it is around the 23rd of feb, may, aug, and nov if all goes well.
From what I hear this release might be delayed, but when it is released
there will be a email coming into your inbox, or nvda will want to upgrade
if the auto updater is turned on or there will be chatter on the list.

Gene nz


On 21/05/2016 7:25 AM, Kenny Peyattt jr. wrote:
Hi when will the next version of nvda be released?
Kenny Peyattt jr.

Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>; for Windows
10




--
Check out my website for nvda tutorials and other blindness related material
at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net

AAh yeah I agree on search even in 7 I havn't used file search that much unless I have a large list.
Ok so maybe I need to practice the start menu a bit more maybe I just need to get used to it.



On 21/05/2016 9:51 p.m., Pete wrote:

hi Shaun

The apps thing is a big list of all the programs installed on your
computer. You can navigate using down and up arrow keys. Use the
application key for pinning to start screen / etc. I like the start
screen, kind of like a second desktop. I unpinned every thing from it
and just pinned what I wanted up there. I just have recycle bin on the
desktop. Recycle bin can be hidden or removed from the desktop I think.

I don't care for the file manager with the search! I mean come on how
many search boxes do we really need?

I'll even go as far as I like the start screen better than the start
menus from 98 and up. It's the greatest thing m s has done in a long
while.

Pete

On 5/21/2016 3:24 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:

Well to be honest, I upgraded 1 machine to 10 that I have access to.
Here is where I stand with 10.
When I do eventually upgrade I am confident that with all the advances
with features, lockscreens, and other things that I can probably use
10 at least the desktop with vary little modification to the registry.
While now that the system has done with indexing I can do single
letter search in start and it actually comes up fine.
3. I am confidant that with all the things ms has at least for the
desktop I will be fine.
5. I know some of my way round bits of the new ribbon.
6. I am sure with ribbon disabler, and classic shell I may be able to
make it look 7 like.
6. I think I am getting used to the task manager bits of action
centre and settings.
What I havn't figured out are the apps just yet or the ms account thing.
I think in the short term if I need to I will be able to use 10
without any real issue.



On 21/05/2016 9:31 a.m., Scott VanDeWalle wrote:

i am positibve that all will be working well within the next little bit,
as in maybe the next few official win 10 updates. Ms keeps saying by
the end of this year.
So let's all hope so.

Scott
Original message:

I found Edge very annoying, too, when I first upgraded to Windows 10.
Although I would set Firefox as default it would still popup as
settings. I tried to uninstall it but could not. I took it to a
computer shop and they at least they got rid of the settings popup. I
avoid using Cortana just because of Edge. Google is my homepage and
search engine.

On 5/20/16, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:

There are certain things that only work with Edge regardless of
whether you
had a choice before. Recently, Microsoft made certain things use Edge
regardless of what is set as the default browser. There may only be
two of
these things. I know one had something to do with search, perhaps
searching
somehow in the start menu. Whatever the case, if you set another
browser as
the default and something brings up Edge, then you probably have no
choice
but to do whatever you want to do directly from within the browser
you want
to use.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Pascal Lambert
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,

Greetings,

I find Edge very slow, it takes few mins to have voice feedback when
it is
launched. I tried to get rid of it and make Firefox the default
but it
comes back in certain situations. Is there a way to completely
disabled it?
I prefer using Firefox even though lately it is having problem with
Flash
player acting strangely. Any suggestions on these issues is greatly
appreciated.

Many thanks

Blessings

Pascal

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't
links

There is more than just speed to consider. Firefox still uses a
different
interface and it is a more convenient interface. Chrome shows all
sorts of
things such as history and settings as web pages. Firefox has a lot
more
add ons. Firefox has a document reading feature that blind people
can use.
I tried using a Chrome add on for this purpose and I couldn't use
it. I
don't know if there are other Chrome add ons that implement this
feature.

It appears to me that Chrome hasn't even put short cut commands on
some or
many of its menu items. That sore of thing is and has been standard
since
the mid-nineties.

Gene

From: P. Otter

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 11:54 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't
links

ofr me it's the same!

chrome is in the most situations nice and quick, more than most other
browsers.

google has made accessibility extentions it is recommanded to install
for
example the extention that let you navigate with the arrow keys.

cheers

paul otter

----- Original Message -----

From: Bobby

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 6:36 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that
aren't
links

Hay very good news google crome is now accessible as well. I now
use it
as my default browser

On 5/20/2016 12:32 PM, Peter Beasley wrote:

That browser is not fully accessible. Use internet explorer or
Mozilla
firefox.

From: ken lawrence via Groups.io

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 4:16 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't
links

Hi listers ken here have a vexing problem. on two local radio
stations
namely WOLD-lp, and WMGQ in NJ I can’t seem to find the listen
live. on
WOLD the problem is simpler. the listen live appears as a heading,
but not
as a link, clickable graphic or button just the words listen live.
this is
the only way to listen to the station without tunein radio since they
have
change from a winamp based stream to a flash based popup player.
they have
changed stream providors. what must they do to make there stream
appear as
a link and not just the words listen live? then on Magic 98.3 the
problem
is even stranger. in order to listen to all greater-media owned
stations
you must register for their listener clubs. in the case of magic 98.3
additionally you are only able to listen to them if you live in NJ,
Pa area.
same with active rock station WDHA in dover NJ. must assume the same
condition is true with WRAT the jersey shore based rocker. I have
tried on
three different browsers to log into the station and the listen
live is
nowhere. no button, no links, no graphics. there are listen links
connected to interviews/features but not the stream. didn’t try the
word
play but no play buttons exist then just now using the edge browser
with
NVDA clearly hit the letter f found the edit field, but when
entered the
stupid site thought Oh you searched for your email address, sorry no
such
thing. so edge is obviously out since NVDA can’t seem to focus on
the right
edit field. so my question is this, how do I advise the webmasters
of both
radio stations? especially magic 98.3 since I’m technically a music
club
member? the websites for both are www.woldradio.com for oldies 107.9
and
www.magic983.com for WMGQ. perhaps someone with partial sight can
advise on
this one. is it a fix on my end possibly?

--
We have probed the Earth, excavated it, burned it, ripped things from
it, buried things in it... That does not fit my definition of a good
tenant. If we were here on a month-to-month basis, we would have been
evicted long ago.
-Rose Bird

.

Thanks everybody for the info on using Edge. Please, how does one
access the pull down menus in Edge? I keep hitting the “alt-key” and
nothing happens. Is there another way in Edge? All the alt key
commands of IE seem to be deactivated when I launch Edge. Please
advise. Also, I have a set home page, Edge ignores it and goes to the
default each time.

Many thanks.

Blessings

Pascal

*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of
*David Moore
*Sent:* Friday, May 20, 2016 6:54 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,

Hi,

I urge you to get the NvDA add on, Windows 10 app assentials. This add
on makes NVDA able to access all of the results of Cortana in Edge.
Cortana can already do much more than Siri on an iPhone, so I really
encourage you to give Cortana and Edge to get her results another try
after you install the NVDA add on Windows 10 app assentials that
Joseph Lee programs. Using Cortana and accessing the results with NvDA
already makes me much more efficient with doing my work. You do not
have to do a lot of browsing to find what you want, because Cortana
does such a good job of narrowing down what you need and you can read
the results right away in Edge and totally access it with NVDA. I just
want you to know how much I am getting out of Cortana and Edge by
installing that add on to NVDA. Take care.

*From:*Greg Wocher <mailto:gwocher@gwocher.com>

*Sent:*Friday, May 20, 2016 5:02 PM

*To:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

*Subject:*Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,

Hello,

Unfortunately there is not a way to disable edge entirely. There are
times when it will automatically be used no matter what you have your
default browser set to. One instance that comes to mind is when doing
a search with Kortana. The search results will always come up in edge.

Regards,

Greg Wocher

On 5/20/2016 4:12 PM, Pascal Lambert wrote:

Greetings,

I find Edge very slow, it takes few mins to have voice feedback
when it is launched. I tried to get rid of it and make Firefox
the default but it comes back in certain situations. Is there a
way to completely disabled it? I prefer using Firefox even though
lately it is having problem with Flash player acting strangely.
Any suggestions on these issues is greatly appreciated.

Many thanks

Blessings

Pascal

*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Gene
*Sent:* Friday, May 20, 2016 3:44 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that
aren't links

There is more than just speed to consider. Firefox still uses a
different interface and it is a more convenient interface. Chrome
shows all sorts of things such as history and settings as web
pages. Firefox has a lot more add ons. Firefox has a document
reading feature that blind people can use. I tried using a Chrome
add on for this purpose and I couldn't use it. I don't know if
there are other Chrome add ons that implement this feature.

It appears to me that Chrome hasn't even put short cut commands on
some or many of its menu items. That sore of thing is and has been
standard since the mid-nineties.


Gene

*From:*P. Otter <mailto:pam.otter@gmail.com>

*Sent:*Friday, May 20, 2016 11:54 AM

*To:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

*Subject:*Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that
aren't links

ofr me it's the same!

chrome is in the most situations nice and quick, more than most
other browsers.

google has made accessibility extentions it is recommanded to
install for example the extention that let you navigate with the
arrow keys.

cheers

paul otter

----- Original Message -----

*From:*Bobby <mailto:bvinton@optonline.net>

*To:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

*Sent:*Friday, May 20, 2016 6:36 PM

*Subject:*Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links
that aren't links

Hay very good news google crome is now accessible as well. I
now use it as my default browser

On 5/20/2016 12:32 PM, Peter Beasley wrote:

That browser is not fully accessible. Use internet
explorer or Mozilla firefox.

*From:*ken lawrence via Groups.io
<mailto:kenlawrence124=aol.com@groups.io>

*Sent:*Friday, May 20, 2016 4:16 PM

*To:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

*Subject:*[nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links
that aren't links

Hi listers ken here have a vexing problem. on two local
radio stations namely WOLD-lp, and WMGQ in NJ I can’t seem
to find the listen live. on WOLD the problem is simpler.
the listen live appears as a heading, but not as a link,
clickable graphic or button just the words listen live.
this is the only way to listen to the station without
tunein radio since they have change from a winamp based
stream to a flash based popup player. they have changed
stream providors. what must they do to make there stream
appear as a link and not just the words listen live? then
on Magic 98.3 the problem is even stranger. in order to
listen to all greater-media owned stations you must
register for their listener clubs. in the case of magic
98.3 additionally you are only able to listen to them if
you live in NJ, Pa area. same with active rock station
WDHA in dover NJ. must assume the same condition is true
with WRAT the jersey shore based rocker. I have tried on
three different browsers to log into the station and the
listen live is nowhere. no button, no links, no
graphics. there are listen links connected to
interviews/features but not the stream. didn’t try the
word play but no play buttons exist then just now using
the edge browser with NVDA clearly hit the letter f found
the edit field, but when entered the stupid site thought
Oh you searched for your email address, sorry no such
thing. so edge is obviously out since NVDA can’t seem to
focus on the right edit field. so my question is this,
how do I advise the webmasters of both radio stations?
especially magic 98.3 since I’m technically a music club
member? the websites for both are www.woldradio.com
<http://www.woldradio.com>; for oldies 107.9 and
www.magic983.com <http://www.magic983.com>; for WMGQ.
perhaps someone with partial sight can advise on this
one. is it a fix on my end possibly?

Hi all

I suddenly realised NVDA does not say "Copied to clipboard" or "cut to clipboard" any more when I perform these actions. Why does this happen and is it possible to make it say this again? It does not bother me much, but I was just curious.

Kindest
Hendrik

On 21 May 2016, at 21:28, Lino Morales <linomorales001@gmail.com> wrote:

Just because Edge isn't yet accessible to us screen readers yet doesn't mean WIN 10 is not bad. I'm actually getting sick and tired of seeing comments like this on this list. Just because 1 piece of software doesn't work don't mean the whole OS is crap. Grow up you all and do your research befor upgrading or buying a WIN 10 PC.


On 5/20/2016 5:31 PM, Peter Beasley wrote:

Sounds like another reason not to upgrade to windows 10.

From: Gene
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 10:03 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,

There are certain things that only work with Edge regardless of whether you had a choice before. Recently, Microsoft made certain things use Edge regardless of what is set as the default browser. There may only be two of these things. I know one had something to do with search, perhaps searching somehow in the start menu. Whatever the case, if you set another browser as the default and something brings up Edge, then you probably have no choice but to do whatever you want to do directly from within the browser you want to use.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Pascal Lambert
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,

Greetings,
I find Edge very slow, it takes few mins to have voice feedback when it is launched. I tried to get rid of it and make Firefox the default but it comes back in certain situations. Is there a way to completely disabled it? I prefer using Firefox even though lately it is having problem with Flash player acting strangely. Any suggestions on these issues is greatly appreciated.
Many thanks
Blessings
Pascal

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't
links

There is more than just speed to consider. Firefox still uses a different interface and it is a more convenient interface. Chrome shows all sorts of things such as history and settings as web pages. Firefox has a lot more add ons. Firefox has a document reading feature that blind people can use. I tried using a Chrome add on for this purpose and I couldn't use it. I don't know if there are other Chrome add ons that implement this feature.
It appears to me that Chrome hasn't even put short cut commands on some or many of its menu items. That sore of thing is and has been standard since the mid-nineties.

Gene

From: P. Otter
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 11:54 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't
links

ofr me it's the same!
chrome is in the most situations nice and quick, more than most other browsers.
google has made accessibility extentions it is recommanded to install for example the extention that let you navigate with the arrow keys.
cheers
paul otter

----- Original Message -----
From: Bobby
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't
links

Hay very good news google crome is now accessible as well. I now use
it as my default browser


On 5/20/2016 12:32 PM, Peter Beasley wrote:
That browser is not fully accessible. Use internet explorer or Mozilla firefox.

From: ken lawrence via Groups.io
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 4:16 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't
links

Hi listers ken here have a vexing problem. on two local radio stations namely WOLD-lp, and WMGQ in NJ I can’t seem to find the listen live. on WOLD the problem is simpler. the listen live appears as a heading, but not as a link, clickable graphic or button just the words listen live. this is the only way to listen to the station without tunein radio since they have change from a winamp based stream to a flash based popup player. they have changed stream providors. what must they do to make there stream appear as a link and not just the words listen live? then on Magic 98.3 the problem is even stranger. in order to listen to all greater-media owned stations you must register for their listener clubs. in the case of magic 98.3 additionally you are only able to listen to them if you live in NJ, Pa area. same with active rock station WDHA in dover NJ. must assume the same condition is true with WRAT the jersey shore based rocker. I have tried on three different browsers to log into the station and the listen live is nowhere. no button, no links, no graphics. there are listen links connected to interviews/features but not the stream. didn’t try the word play but no play buttons exist then just now using the edge browser with NVDA clearly hit the letter f found the edit field, but when entered the stupid site thought Oh you searched for your email address, sorry no such thing. so edge is obviously out since NVDA can’t seem to focus on the right edit field. so my question is this, how do I advise the webmasters of both radio stations? especially magic 98.3 since I’m technically a music club member? the websites for both are www.woldradio.com for oldies 107.9 and www.magic983.com for WMGQ. perhaps someone with partial sight can advise on this one. is it a fix on my end possibly?

On 21 May 2016, at 21:28, Lino Morales <linomorales001@gmail.com> wrote:

Just because Edge isn't yet accessible to us screen readers yet doesn't mean WIN 10 is not bad. I'm actually getting sick and tired of seeing comments like this on this list. Just because 1 piece of software doesn't work don't mean the whole OS is crap. Grow up you all and do your research befor upgrading or buying a WIN 10 PC.


On 5/20/2016 5:31 PM, Peter Beasley wrote:

Sounds like another reason not to upgrade to windows 10.

From: Gene
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 10:03 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,

There are certain things that only work with Edge regardless of whether you had a choice before. Recently, Microsoft made certain things use Edge regardless of what is set as the default browser. There may only be two of these things. I know one had something to do with search, perhaps searching somehow in the start menu. Whatever the case, if you set another browser as the default and something brings up Edge, then you probably have no choice but to do whatever you want to do directly from within the browser you want to use.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Pascal Lambert
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,

Greetings,
I find Edge very slow, it takes few mins to have voice feedback when it is launched. I tried to get rid of it and make Firefox the default but it comes back in certain situations. Is there a way to completely disabled it? I prefer using Firefox even though lately it is having problem with Flash player acting strangely. Any suggestions on these issues is greatly appreciated.
Many thanks
Blessings
Pascal

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links

There is more than just speed to consider. Firefox still uses a different interface and it is a more convenient interface. Chrome shows all sorts of things such as history and settings as web pages. Firefox has a lot more add ons. Firefox has a document reading feature that blind people can use. I tried using a Chrome add on for this purpose and I couldn't use it. I don't know if there are other Chrome add ons that implement this feature.
It appears to me that Chrome hasn't even put short cut commands on some or many of its menu items. That sore of thing is and has been standard since the mid-nineties.

Gene

From: P. Otter
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 11:54 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links

ofr me it's the same!
chrome is in the most situations nice and quick, more than most other browsers.
google has made accessibility extentions it is recommanded to install for example the extention that let you navigate with the arrow keys.
cheers
paul otter

----- Original Message -----
From: Bobby
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links

Hay very good news google crome is now accessible as well. I now use it as my default browser


On 5/20/2016 12:32 PM, Peter Beasley wrote:
That browser is not fully accessible. Use internet explorer or Mozilla firefox.

From: ken lawrence via Groups.io
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 4:16 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links

Hi listers ken here have a vexing problem. on two local radio stations namely WOLD-lp, and WMGQ in NJ I can’t seem to find the listen live. on WOLD the problem is simpler. the listen live appears as a heading, but not as a link, clickable graphic or button just the words listen live. this is the only way to listen to the station without tunein radio since they have change from a winamp based stream to a flash based popup player. they have changed stream providors. what must they do to make there stream appear as a link and not just the words listen live? then on Magic 98.3 the problem is even stranger. in order to listen to all greater-media owned stations you must register for their listener clubs. in the case of magic 98.3 additionally you are only able to listen to them if you live in NJ, Pa area. same with active rock station WDHA in dover NJ. must assume the same condition is true with WRAT the jersey shore based rocker. I have tried on three different browsers to log into the station and the listen live is nowhere. no button, no links, no graphics. there are listen links connected to interviews/features but not the stream. didn’t try the word play but no play buttons exist then just now using the edge browser with NVDA clearly hit the letter f found the edit field, but when entered the stupid site thought Oh you searched for your email address, sorry no such thing. so edge is obviously out since NVDA can’t seem to focus on the right edit field. so my question is this, how do I advise the webmasters of both radio stations? especially magic 98.3 since I’m technically a music club member? the websites for both are www.woldradio.com for oldies 107.9 and www.magic983.com for WMGQ. perhaps someone with partial sight can advise on this one. is it a fix on my end possibly?