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Re: Ask developers: Synth Driver: Async or Sync speakText

Brian's Mail list account BY <bglists@...>
 

You cannot subscribe to the development list then, or is it that you have not managed to get subscribed.

I think its best this is sorted as I'm sure there will be lots of questions like this that will need asking.

You could also ask on the add-ons list as well, or pose it as a possible extension using git hub.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Tuan Le Anh" <tuanla1972@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 2:31 AM
Subject: [nvda] Ask developers: Synth Driver: Async or Sync speakText


Hi there.
My name is Tuan Le Anh. I am developing Vietnamese TTS for NVDA.
I just wanted to ask a question but don't have permission to post in developer mail group.
So, I am sending to you with hope you will help me.
My problem is that I can't get speakText function to work properly.
If speakText is synchronized function, NVDA freezes while TTS reads some text.
If speakText is async, Say All feature doesn't work properly: system caret moves to end of text at once instead of moving along with reading text, or system caret doesn't move and NVDA reads only few lines of text (reads around 10 lines then stops).
Please, help me as blind people in Vietnam really need my portable synthesizer.
Thank you and looking forward to your replying,
Tuan Le Anh.


Re: Just in case nobody has seen this post by Jamie on the development list..

Brian's Mail list account BY <bglists@...>
 

I think according to what I have been reading he problem has been getting worse since Firefox 39 or so.

As Jamie said in that message you can fix it by downloading one of the most recent nightly builds of Firefox from the development site of Mozilla. I've not bothered as it only seems to happen sometimes, but the question still not answered is why its so flaky and some people get it all the time, whilst others get it rarely.

If you are interested have a look on the nvda development list. There have been comments about it for some months.
However I don't think this is the problem those who cannot get nvda2016.3 to work from a clean install have. This seems to be something different, as yet not duplicated by any of the developers, so trying to find it is a bit hard when you cannot see any issues.
I'm not technical enough to know what else might affect this. The re registering of that windows file was the main suggestion for this type of problem but I suppose it could be any other software that is running all the time in the background and the part where it was working on older versions is peculiar too, that would point to nvda having had a major change in some way, but if that were true, then an updated version would still fail I'd have thought.


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----- Original Message -----
From: "nasrin khaksar" <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 1:27 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Just in case nobody has seen this post by Jamie on the development list..


hi.
are you refering to the problem which i mentioned in using nvda 2016.3
with firefox or its a new problem?
in which version of firefox, this major bug which you mentioned occure?
thanks for informing us.

On 10/16/16, Brian's Mail list account <bglists@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
If you're using Firefox, there is a major bug in Firefox stable which can
cause this among other strange things such as menus disappearing. It took us

months to track this down, but it's now fixed in Firefox nightly. I'm not
quite sure when it'll make it into a stable release.

Sent from a mobile device

On 16 Oct. 2016, at 2:30 am, Brandon Keith Biggs
<brandonkeithbiggs@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello,
I have been noticing that more and more websites are starting to show up as

just a URL. What happens is the website shows up for a little while, then
all of a sudden, the website will disappear and just the URL shows up.
This mostly happens on article or blog websites. about 50% of the time, a
refresh works and everything is fine, but the other 50 will show up for a
little while then go to the URL again.
One site that is particularly terrible is the site you need to setup your G

Suite account. I was tasked to do this for the company I work for and I
can't because it just shows:
https://admin.google.com/setup/u/0/apps#DomainSettings/notab=1&subtab=subscriptions

That's it. I'm able to see there is something else on my screen because for

a split second I hear:
link graphic apps authuser=0

then it goes to the URL. What's happening to these sites? Is it a loading
problem?
Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs
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Re: Ask developers: Synth Driver: Async or Sync speakText

Tuan Le Anh <tuanla1972@...>
 

Great! 

I didn't understand what is GetLastIndex used for.

Now the system caret moves correctly with my synthesizer!

Thank you very much!.




Re: Does updating NVDA preserve setttings?

slery <slerythema@...>
 

This last update to 2016.3 did not keep my speech settings and I had to go in and reset them.

 

Cindy

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2016 10:44 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Does updating NVDA preserve setttings?

 

John,

        Someone else who uses a Braille display will have to absolutely confirm with regard to that.  My experience with upgrading NVDA from release to release using the internal update feature or installing release candidate software has kept all of my settings preserved as well as all the add-ons I've installed.  This is common practice now and the only deviation I commonly see from it is the inclusion of a specific question during certain installs where a question is asked as to whether you'd like to do a clean install and telling you this resets everything back to "out of the box" condition.   NVDA has never presented me with one of these and has always carried my settings forward.
--
Brian

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Re: how do mkae NVDA stop saying level 1 or level 2 when i go to different things`

mohammad suliman
 

hi, from NVDA menu, "preferences" > "object presentation" > then uncheck the "report object position information" checkbox. As said previously, this info helps a lot to understand the structure of tree view. Also, you won't be able to get the "index in group" and the "group count" info. E.G, if you navigate to the Firefox icon on the desktop, you will hear only "Mozilla Firefox", and not "Mozilla Firefox 10 of 25"
best!

On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 at 08:05 Christo Vorster <christo.vorster@...> wrote:
Hi

Report headings is unchecked and NVDA still announce level 1 or level 2

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Andre Fisher
Sent: Friday, 14 October 2016 5:55 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how do mkae NVDA stop saying level 1 or level 2 when i go to different things`

Turn off report headings in the document formatting dialog.

On 10/14/16, Casey <cwollner@...> wrote:
> Hi I ma using the latest NVDA and every time I go threw my e-mail inbox.
> It says level 1 or level 2 when I get to different parts of my mail
> program.
> Where do I go to get this to stop?
>
>
> --
> Casey
>
>
>
>







Re: how do mkae NVDA stop saying level 1 or level 2 when i go to different things`

Christo Vorster
 

Hi

Report headings is unchecked and NVDA still announce level 1 or level 2

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Andre Fisher
Sent: Friday, 14 October 2016 5:55 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how do mkae NVDA stop saying level 1 or level 2 when i go to different things`

Turn off report headings in the document formatting dialog.

On 10/14/16, Casey <cwollner@wi.rr.com> wrote:
Hi I ma using the latest NVDA and every time I go threw my e-mail inbox.
It says level 1 or level 2 when I get to different parts of my mail
program.
Where do I go to get this to stop?


--
Casey




Re: a new version of open office

Gary Metzler <gmtravel@...>
 

Hi Rosemary,

It seems to work well on my system. I noticed that when I installed it there was a check box to activate java access bridge. Maybe that is what helped.

-----Original Message-----
From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 11:47 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] a new version of open office

Hi, Gary,


I hope it's more accessible than the previous version.


Rosemarie




On 10/15/2016 3:32 PM, Gary Metzler wrote:
Hi Rosemary,

Libreoffice is now up to version 5.2.

-----Original Message----- From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 4:26 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] a new version of open office

Hi,


How do you get libre office to read a document? I'm just asking because
I'd like to be able to use NVDA down-arrow instead of always having to
press control down-arrow to read by paragraphs.


Rosemarie




On 10/15/2016 1:08 PM, nasrin khaksar wrote:
hi.
yes i recommend you to update.
because of security fixes, support of more secure components and also
security fixes in java.
i use libreoffice 4.4.6 and its realy great!
i did not test the newer version of openoffice until now.
God bless you and thanks.

On 10/13/16, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@gmail.com> wrote:
I haven't tried it on my new computer yet. I'm thinking about it though.




On 10/12/2016 4:25 PM, Bobby wrote:
Hay I was just on the ninite web site and found out open office has
version 4.1.3. I was wondering if I should update to this version.
Can you please test and let me know because I have open office version
4.1.2. Hope it works











Re: Friend looking for simple nvda friendly book software.

slery <slerythema@...>
 

Does he have a smartphone? There are audio book players that will play the
mp3 as a book and I believe there are at least one or two that are free.

Cindy

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian's
Mail list account
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 2:19 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Friend looking for simple nvda friendly book software.

Ok here is the crux of this. Over here in the UK daisy and mp3 content is
often sent out on ram sticks. we even have stand alone stick players. A
listener has asked me if a piece of software exists that can play this
content say a folder at a time so he can listen on his laptop.
I've seen self voicing book players but they cost money and wondered if
there is an easy to use nvda compatible one around. OK he could go around
explorer playing tracks and making playlists, but he is not, shall we say,
really interested in computers,they are just a way of getting at 'stuff' and
the simpler the better!
Brian

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Re: FW: [win10] Labeling tables with Nvda

slery <slerythema@...>
 

Thank you so much for this information. I was wondering if such a thing was possible.

 

Filing this away in my help folder.

Cindy

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cearbhall O'Meadhra
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 1:10 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] FW: [win10] Labeling tables with Nvda

 

Ashley,

 

It would help to know if you are using Word or Excel.

 

Assuming you are using Excel:

 

Check the table and see if there are any blank columns in it. Sighted users sometimes like to leave blank columns between blocks of data to make them visually clearer NVDA will label a contiguous set of columns i.e. no blank columns between them.  You can set these by placing the cursor in the leftmost cell of the title row and pressing NVDA+shift+c.

 

You can label each column that is separated by doing the same keystroke in its top cell. NVDA will then call out the heading of the orphan column , leave the blank column silent, and report all the headings of the columns that are touching each other.

 

The same applies to the row heading, Place the cursor in the top left corner of the table if there are no blank column titles in the header row and press NVDA+shift+r to define the column that contains the row names.

 

Tip:

If there are any blank columns you can always place a hyphen (-) or some other minor character in the blank header cell and this will cause NVDA to treat the entire row as relating to the left most column items even if the second column remains blank below the header row.  

 

If you are using Word then this extract from the NVDA user manual should help you:

 

8.1.1. Automatic Column and Row Header Reading

NVDA is able to automatically announce appropriate row and column headers when navigating around tables in Microsoft Word. This firstly requires that the Report Table row / column headers option In NVDA's Document Formatting dialog be turned on. Secondly, NVDA needs to know which row or column contains the headers in any given table. After moving to the first cell in the column or row containing the headers, use one of the following commands:

Name

Key

Description

Set column headers

NVDA+shift+c

Pressing this once tells NVDA this is the first header cell in the row that contains column headers, which should be automatically announced when moving between columns below this row. Pressing twice will clear the setting.

Set row headers

NVDA+shift+r

Pressing this once tells NVDA this is the first header cell in the column that contains row headers, which should be automatically announced when moving between rows after this column. Pressing twice will clear the setting.

These settings will be stored in the document as bookmarks compatible with other Screen Readers such as Jaws. This means that users of other screen readers who open this document at a later date will automatically have the row and column headers already set.

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 4:59 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] FW: [win10] Labeling tables with Nvda

 

Hi,

Can anyone help this person? Thanks.

Cheers,

joseph

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ashley Coleman
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 8:36 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: [win10] Labeling tables with Nvda

 

Hey all

I hope you all are doing well.

 

Does anyone know how to label columns in tables so that NVDA reads the title of the cell? If that makes any since.

Thanks.

 

 

Thank you

Ashley Coleman

Blinkie Chicks Social Media Manager and Blogger

Find us on the web at:

http://blinkiechicks.com/

 


Re: a new version of open office

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Gary,


I hope it's more accessible than the previous version.


Rosemarie

On 10/15/2016 3:32 PM, Gary Metzler wrote:
Hi Rosemary,

Libreoffice is now up to version 5.2.

-----Original Message----- From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 4:26 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] a new version of open office

Hi,


How do you get libre office to read a document? I'm just asking because
I'd like to be able to use NVDA down-arrow instead of always having to
press control down-arrow to read by paragraphs.


Rosemarie




On 10/15/2016 1:08 PM, nasrin khaksar wrote:
hi.
yes i recommend you to update.
because of security fixes, support of more secure components and also
security fixes in java.
i use libreoffice 4.4.6 and its realy great!
i did not test the newer version of openoffice until now.
God bless you and thanks.

On 10/13/16, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@gmail.com> wrote:
I haven't tried it on my new computer yet. I'm thinking about it though.




On 10/12/2016 4:25 PM, Bobby wrote:
Hay I was just on the ninite web site and found out open office has
version 4.1.3. I was wondering if I should update to this version.
Can you please test and let me know because I have open office version
4.1.2. Hope it works










Re: betting NVDA to stop saying blank when reading blank lines in A message

 

hi.
yes. use insert down to read all and prevent nvda from saying blank.

On 10/16/16, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
Are you reading messages by down arrowing line by line? If so, why not use
the read to end command. You can then just listen to the message and you
won't hear blank lines announced either.

I don't know if there is a way to cause NVDA not to say blank when a blank
line is encountered. But read to end will eliminate the problem.

Gene
From: Casey
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 2:28 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] betting NVDA to stop saying blank when reading blank lines
in A message


Hi when I ma reading threw my e-mail and there is blank lines between
lines in what I am reading where do I go in NVDA to change it from
saying blank when it finds A blank line to say nothing when it finds A
blank line?
Or can you now change this in NVDA?


--
Casey


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Re: Ask developers: Synth Driver: Async or Sync speakText

Tyler Spivey
 

Hi,
You can subscribe to nvda-devel here:
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nvda-devel
Or by sending mail to nvda-devel-request@lists.sourceforge.net with subscribe in the body.

speak (and thus speakText) must be async. When something calls speak (speakText is deprecated), send it off to a background thread.

For say all to work properly, you also have to handle indexes. An index is a marker that the screen reader sends to the synthesizer, and the synth sends back when it gets to that point in the output.

If you still need help, feel free to mail nvda-devel or mail me off-list. I've written a few of these.

On 10/16/2016 6:31 PM, Tuan Le Anh wrote:
Hi there.
My name is Tuan Le Anh. I am developing Vietnamese TTS for NVDA.
I just wanted to ask a question but don't have permission to post in
developer mail group.
So, I am sending to you with hope you will help me.
My problem is that I can't get speakText function to work properly.
If speakText is synchronized function, NVDA freezes while TTS reads some
text.
If speakText is async, Say All feature doesn't work properly: system
caret moves to end of text at once instead of moving along with reading
text, or system caret doesn't move and NVDA reads only few lines of text
(reads around 10 lines then stops).
Please, help me as blind people in Vietnam really need my portable
synthesizer.
Thank you and looking forward to your replying,
Tuan Le Anh.


Re: a new version of open office

 

your welcome.
its my pleasure and i am very glad to help others.

On 10/17/16, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@gmail.com> wrote:
This is very helpful. Thanks.


Rosemarie




On 10/16/2016 1:32 AM, nasrin khaksar wrote:
hi Rosemarie. since libreoffice does not support say all, i installed
balabolka, as well as sapi5 version of espeak and i convert my
documents to audio and listen to it.
another way, is you can in the file menu, select preview in web
browser which make a temporary copy of your documents and you can
press insert down to read your document entirely.
hope that helps and God bless you.

On 10/16/16, Gary Metzler <gmtravel@bellsouth.net> wrote:
Hi Rosemary,

Libreoffice is now up to version 5.2.

-----Original Message-----
From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 4:26 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] a new version of open office

Hi,


How do you get libre office to read a document? I'm just asking because
I'd like to be able to use NVDA down-arrow instead of always having to
press control down-arrow to read by paragraphs.


Rosemarie




On 10/15/2016 1:08 PM, nasrin khaksar wrote:
hi.
yes i recommend you to update.
because of security fixes, support of more secure components and also
security fixes in java.
i use libreoffice 4.4.6 and its realy great!
i did not test the newer version of openoffice until now.
God bless you and thanks.

On 10/13/16, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@gmail.com> wrote:
I haven't tried it on my new computer yet. I'm thinking about it
though.




On 10/12/2016 4:25 PM, Bobby wrote:
Hay I was just on the ninite web site and found out open office has
version 4.1.3. I was wondering if I should update to this version.
Can you please test and let me know because I have open office
version
4.1.2. Hope it works












--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org


Ask developers: Synth Driver: Async or Sync speakText

Tuan Le Anh <tuanla1972@...>
 

Hi there.
My name is Tuan Le Anh. I am developing Vietnamese TTS for NVDA.
I just wanted to ask a question but don't have permission to post in developer mail group.
So, I am sending to you with hope you will help me.
My problem is that I can't get speakText function to work properly.
If speakText is synchronized function, NVDA freezes while TTS reads some text.
If speakText is async, Say All feature doesn't work properly: system caret moves to end of text at once instead of moving along with reading text, or system caret doesn't move and NVDA reads only few lines of text (reads around 10 lines then stops).
Please, help me as blind people in Vietnam really need my portable synthesizer.
Thank you and looking forward to your replying,
Tuan Le Anh.


I am needingsome help please

laura cornwell <cornwelll627@...>
 

I am using out look and I am needing to no I am using 3accountsin my office
program how do I put my contacts from my gmail stuff in to office?


Re: a new version of open office

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

This is very helpful. Thanks.


Rosemarie

On 10/16/2016 1:32 AM, nasrin khaksar wrote:
hi Rosemarie. since libreoffice does not support say all, i installed
balabolka, as well as sapi5 version of espeak and i convert my
documents to audio and listen to it.
another way, is you can in the file menu, select preview in web
browser which make a temporary copy of your documents and you can
press insert down to read your document entirely.
hope that helps and God bless you.

On 10/16/16, Gary Metzler <gmtravel@bellsouth.net> wrote:
Hi Rosemary,

Libreoffice is now up to version 5.2.

-----Original Message-----
From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 4:26 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] a new version of open office

Hi,


How do you get libre office to read a document? I'm just asking because
I'd like to be able to use NVDA down-arrow instead of always having to
press control down-arrow to read by paragraphs.


Rosemarie




On 10/15/2016 1:08 PM, nasrin khaksar wrote:
hi.
yes i recommend you to update.
because of security fixes, support of more secure components and also
security fixes in java.
i use libreoffice 4.4.6 and its realy great!
i did not test the newer version of openoffice until now.
God bless you and thanks.

On 10/13/16, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@gmail.com> wrote:
I haven't tried it on my new computer yet. I'm thinking about it though.




On 10/12/2016 4:25 PM, Bobby wrote:
Hay I was just on the ninite web site and found out open office has
version 4.1.3. I was wondering if I should update to this version.
Can you please test and let me know because I have open office version
4.1.2. Hope it works










Re: I am a old user with a new email address

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Laura,


I think I remember you from the old NVDA list when it was on freelists.


Rosemarie

On 10/16/2016 1:36 PM, laura cornwell wrote:
Hi My name is laura Cornwell I am just using a different email address. I
have been a NVDA user for a long time now I would love to be able to help
someone on this list when I can. t



I am a old user with a new email address

laura cornwell <cornwelll627@...>
 

Hi My name is laura Cornwell I am just using a different email address. I
have been a NVDA user for a long time now I would love to be able to help
someone on this list when I can. t


Re: betting NVDA to stop saying blank when reading blank lines in A message

Gene
 

Are you reading messages by down arrowing line by line?  If so, why not use the read to end command.  You can then just listen to the message and you won't hear blank lines announced either. 
 
I don't know if there is a way to cause NVDA not to say blank when a blank line is encountered.  But read to end will eliminate the problem.
 
Gene

From: Casey
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 2:28 PM
Subject: [nvda] betting NVDA to stop saying blank when reading blank lines in A message

Hi when I ma reading threw my e-mail and there is blank lines between
lines in what I am reading where do I go in NVDA to change it from
saying blank when it finds A blank line to say nothing when it finds A
blank line?
Or can you now change this in NVDA?


--
Casey



betting NVDA to stop saying blank when reading blank lines in A message

Casey <cwollner@...>
 

Hi when I ma reading threw my e-mail and there is blank lines between lines in what I am reading where do I go in NVDA to change it from saying blank when it finds A blank line to say nothing when it finds A blank line?
Or can you now change this in NVDA?


--
Casey