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Re: you are invited to upgrade to NonVisual Desktop Access 2016.3

Kerry Fielding <littlemisslovely1973@...>
 

Hi Joseph.  I’ll pass this on.  You probably won’t get anything from him until at least Friday.  He’s on aire tomorrow and Thursday night so won’t be doing any messing with SPL until after then.

 

Kerry

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: 06 September 2016 15:58
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] you are invited to upgrade to NonVisual Desktop Access 2016.3

 

Hi Kerry,

Regarding SPL, could you ask your husband to write to me (current maintainer of SPL add-on for NVDA) privately? Thanks.

Cheers,

joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kerry Fielding
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 3:30 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] you are invited to upgrade to NonVisual Desktop Access 2016.3

 

I downloaded this yesterday and associated draft not being spoken in outlook 2016 is much welcomed.  It drove me crazy.  I just want to say that from a JFW user’s perspective, you guys are almost there in converting me to a full NVDA user.  I’m finding now that especially for tabular information, NVDA works much better for me and I think my husband may be tempted to use it himself.  He just has the little issue of Station Playlist Studio and Station Playlist Streamer which will be the things that hold him back I suspect.

 

You guys rock!!!!!! As for testers, I’d be very pleased to help with any testing necessary.  I’m probably not as geeky as some testers on this list but as someone who is an extremely advanced computer user and uses their computer for working from home and for leisure purposes it’s in my best interests to ensure that screenreader accessibility is not just limited to those that can afford the expensive stuff.  I’m also very very excited to see what happens in November.  Cheap braille?  Mouthwatering!  Something I’ve longed for for a long time and given I can’t get any support from Access To Work because my turnover isn’t what they consider to be worthy, it looks like I’m saving for a braille display.

 

Kerry

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: 06 September 2016 07:15
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] you are invited to upgrade to NonVisual Desktop Access 2016.3

 

Dear citizens of the NVDA land:

 

Yes, it is official: one of the ministers of NVDA land, a certain Mr. Teh, has just ordered the horsemen to announce a good news throughout the land:

 

NVDA 2016.3 is officially out:

http://www.nvaccess.org/post/announcing-nvda-2016-3-release/

 

So what’s new, changed and fixed:

 

From RC2: no changes.

 

Highlights:

 

·         You can now disable individual add-ons.

·         NVDA is more cofmpatible with Windows 10 Anniversary Update (version 1607). Among the things included are return of browse mode in Edge, announcing newer UAC prompts, ability to navigate PDF documents in Edge and more.

·         NVDA+F9/NVDA+F10 command behavior change is now official.

·         Color announcement has been simplified.

·         NVDA no longer announces “associated draft” in Outlook 2016.

·         NVDA can now announce line spacing in Microsoft Word.

·         Various enhancements.

 

A sneak preview at 2016.4: three game-changing features will be served as part of Thanksgiving Party this November:

 

·         Ever wanted to hear line indentation via beeps? You can do that starting in November.

·         Want to experience the next chapter in assistive technology history? Or would you like to be one of the first ones to experience a combination of a free screen reader and a low-cost braille display? Stay tuned, as this combination will change your life in November.

·         Needed an assistant in persuading web or app developers about accessibility needs of screen reader users? The wait is almost over: let NVDA volunteer for you from November onwards.

 

The rest: let’s just say the ministers at NVDA land are holding council every day, looking over this land and thinking about the needs of citizens and planning the next great adventure for the people of this land.

 

Personally, I’m excited to see what NVDA can do in opening opportunities for many people, particularly for those who’re using Windows 10. On behalf of people who’ve contributed to NVDA 2016.3 development, I wish you best in your endeavor as you use NVDA 2016.3 in various places (work, school, for fun and in unexpected places). Also, NVDA 2016.3 release announcement will be my final NVDA release announcement (on this list), as I believe the community is ready to welcome new reporters.

 

Thanks.

Cheers,

Joseph


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Reading Table Cells Without Moving From the Cell you are currently on

Kerry Fielding <littlemisslovely1973@...>
 

Hi folks.  Is it possible to read a cell in a different column without moving from the one you are on.  This feature would definitely be of use to me if it exists.  I am constantly revising my items for sale on ebay and looking at numbers of watchers etc and there are at least 10 columns to this table.  The first column in each row is a check box which I can tick and delete a whole lot of items at once when I’ve finished any editing. However, there are certain pieces of information that I want to know, for example, when the item ends, or in the case of ebay messages, who has sent the item.  I’d like to be able to read this without moving to the cell which is 6 columns away from the check box.

 

I hope this makes sense.

 

Kerry


Re: Windows 10 App Essentials add-on 16.09,1 released

Andre Fisher
 

Looks like the snapshot is for me then. I get that sometimes.

On 9/6/16, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Andre,
It'll be available as part of 16.09.1A (about an hour from now). The
snapshot fixes one instance where NVDA will speak gibberish when talking to
Cortana.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Andre
Fisher
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 8:13 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials add-on 16.09,1 released

Hello Joseph.
If the fix will not be available in a stable version for now, could you try
to add it to the next version? Also, what will be in the next snapshot?

Hello Christo
Which version of Windows are you using? I get no errors here, all be it with
a stable NVDA version. The weather app works great!

Hello Gene.
It also happens in say all. It won't help if you create a dictionary entry
or configuration profile. A dictionary entry is not app specific at the
moment, and it might cause confusion.

On 9/6/16, Christo de Klerk <christodeklerk@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Joseph

I don't know if you saw, but a few days ago I wrote that the latest
version of the add-on does not work properly in the Win 10 Weather app.
When I disable the app, the Weather app works quite well. If I
activate it and then go into the Weather app, whenever I move around,
I get that dong sound you get with the NVDA snapshots. I am using the
latest NVDA snapshot.

Kind regards

Christo


On 2016/09/06 4:53 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi Andre,
1. NVDA says "edit": Mick Curran from NV Access says this is a recent
thing and have written a fix for it. Unfortunately, the fix is part
of a branch that isn't ready for wider testing, and porting it to the
add-on isn't trivial.
2. Readme structure problem: I've noticed it myself. I'll commit a
fix for it (16.09.1A) in about half an hour as I'm also releasing a
new add-on snapshot today.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Andre Fisher
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 7:45 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials add-on 16.09,1 released

Hello Joseph.
Quick observations on my end.
1. The message content of the Mail app still reports "edit" after
every press of down/up arrow.
2. The add-on help file seems to be broken. That is, there is no
proper structure like headings and links.

On 9/6/16, David Moore <jesusloves1966@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
I just installed it and it works great in the areas Joseph mentioned.
David Moore


From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 12:06 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials add-on 16.09,1 released

Hi all,



I'm delighted to announce the release of Windows 10 App Essentials
16.09.1, a minor bug fix release for WinTenApps 16.09.x. The new
release can be found
at:

https://github.com/josephsl/wintenApps/releases/tag/16.09.1



Changelog:



* Appearance of suggestions for search fields is now brailled
(mostly for apps such as Settings).

* NVDA no longer announces "read-only" for Calendar's appointment
name field and Mail's message content.

* In Maps, fixed an issue where one could not use TAB key to move
between controls.



Cheers,

Joseph















Re: Windows 10 App Essentials add-on 16.09,1 released

 

Hi Andre,
It'll be available as part of 16.09.1A (about an hour from now). The snapshot fixes one instance where NVDA will speak gibberish when talking to Cortana.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Andre Fisher
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 8:13 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials add-on 16.09,1 released

Hello Joseph.
If the fix will not be available in a stable version for now, could you try to add it to the next version? Also, what will be in the next snapshot?

Hello Christo
Which version of Windows are you using? I get no errors here, all be it with a stable NVDA version. The weather app works great!

Hello Gene.
It also happens in say all. It won't help if you create a dictionary entry or configuration profile. A dictionary entry is not app specific at the moment, and it might cause confusion.

On 9/6/16, Christo de Klerk <christodeklerk@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Joseph

I don't know if you saw, but a few days ago I wrote that the latest
version of the add-on does not work properly in the Win 10 Weather app.
When I disable the app, the Weather app works quite well. If I
activate it and then go into the Weather app, whenever I move around,
I get that dong sound you get with the NVDA snapshots. I am using the
latest NVDA snapshot.

Kind regards

Christo


On 2016/09/06 4:53 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi Andre,
1. NVDA says "edit": Mick Curran from NV Access says this is a recent
thing and have written a fix for it. Unfortunately, the fix is part
of a branch that isn't ready for wider testing, and porting it to the
add-on isn't trivial.
2. Readme structure problem: I've noticed it myself. I'll commit a
fix for it (16.09.1A) in about half an hour as I'm also releasing a
new add-on snapshot today.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Andre Fisher
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 7:45 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials add-on 16.09,1 released

Hello Joseph.
Quick observations on my end.
1. The message content of the Mail app still reports "edit" after
every press of down/up arrow.
2. The add-on help file seems to be broken. That is, there is no
proper structure like headings and links.

On 9/6/16, David Moore <jesusloves1966@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
I just installed it and it works great in the areas Joseph mentioned.
David Moore


From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 12:06 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials add-on 16.09,1 released

Hi all,



I'm delighted to announce the release of Windows 10 App Essentials
16.09.1, a minor bug fix release for WinTenApps 16.09.x. The new
release can be found
at:

https://github.com/josephsl/wintenApps/releases/tag/16.09.1



Changelog:



* Appearance of suggestions for search fields is now brailled
(mostly for apps such as Settings).

* NVDA no longer announces "read-only" for Calendar's appointment
name field and Mail's message content.

* In Maps, fixed an issue where one could not use TAB key to move
between controls.



Cheers,

Joseph










Re: Microsoft Mark synthesizer voice

Andre Fisher
 

At the moment, NVDA doesn't support any mobile voices. This might be
due to regressions, as Next snapshots had this enhancement.

What you can do, at your own risk is download the SAPI5 mobile add-on
from Jeff's site. The link is:
http://jeff.tdrealms.com/Add-Ons/sapi5mobile.nvda-addon

On 9/6/16, Dan Beaver <dbeaver888@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,


I may be wrong but I thought there was some discussion about the Mark
voice and it being available with NVDA. I am running NVDA 2016.3 and
the Windows anniversary update with all updates since then and Mark is
still not showing up in the list of voices for me. It does show David
and Zira though.


I checked and Mark is available in Narrator. I'd sure like to use it
since it is much easier on my ears with my hearing loss.


Any idea why I can't use Mark?


Dan Beaver





Re: Microsoft Mark synthesizer voice

 

His,
Ah yes - it was pulled due to issues. Luckily, there is an add-on from one of the experts that adds this voice back.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dan Beaver
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 8:09 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Microsoft Mark synthesizer voice

Hi,


I may be wrong but I thought there was some discussion about the Mark voice and it being available with NVDA. I am running NVDA 2016.3 and the Windows anniversary update with all updates since then and Mark is still not showing up in the list of voices for me. It does show David and Zira though.


I checked and Mark is available in Narrator. I'd sure like to use it since it is much easier on my ears with my hearing loss.


Any idea why I can't use Mark?


Dan Beaver


Re: Windows 10 App Essentials add-on 16.09,1 released

Andre Fisher
 

Hello Joseph.
If the fix will not be available in a stable version for now, could
you try to add it to the next version? Also, what will be in the next
snapshot?

Hello Christo
Which version of Windows are you using? I get no errors here, all be
it with a stable NVDA version. The weather app works great!

Hello Gene.
It also happens in say all. It won't help if you create a dictionary
entry or configuration profile. A dictionary entry is not app specific
at the moment, and it might cause confusion.

On 9/6/16, Christo de Klerk <christodeklerk@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Joseph

I don't know if you saw, but a few days ago I wrote that the latest
version of the add-on does not work properly in the Win 10 Weather app.
When I disable the app, the Weather app works quite well. If I activate
it and then go into the Weather app, whenever I move around, I get that
dong sound you get with the NVDA snapshots. I am using the latest NVDA
snapshot.

Kind regards

Christo


On 2016/09/06 4:53 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi Andre,
1. NVDA says "edit": Mick Curran from NV Access says this is a recent
thing and have written a fix for it. Unfortunately, the fix is part of a
branch that isn't ready for wider testing, and porting it to the add-on
isn't trivial.
2. Readme structure problem: I've noticed it myself. I'll commit a fix for
it (16.09.1A) in about half an hour as I'm also releasing a new add-on
snapshot today.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Andre
Fisher
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 7:45 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials add-on 16.09,1 released

Hello Joseph.
Quick observations on my end.
1. The message content of the Mail app still reports "edit" after every
press of down/up arrow.
2. The add-on help file seems to be broken. That is, there is no proper
structure like headings and links.

On 9/6/16, David Moore <jesusloves1966@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
I just installed it and it works great in the areas Joseph mentioned.
David Moore


From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 12:06 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials add-on 16.09,1 released

Hi all,



I'm delighted to announce the release of Windows 10 App Essentials
16.09.1, a minor bug fix release for WinTenApps 16.09.x. The new
release can be found
at:

https://github.com/josephsl/wintenApps/releases/tag/16.09.1



Changelog:



* Appearance of suggestions for search fields is now brailled (mostly
for apps such as Settings).

* NVDA no longer announces "read-only" for Calendar's appointment name
field and Mail's message content.

* In Maps, fixed an issue where one could not use TAB key to move
between controls.



Cheers,

Joseph










Microsoft Mark synthesizer voice

Dan Beaver
 

Hi,


I may be wrong but I thought there was some discussion about the Mark voice and it being available with NVDA. I am running NVDA 2016.3 and the Windows anniversary update with all updates since then and Mark is still not showing up in the list of voices for me. It does show David and Zira though.


I checked and Mark is available in Narrator. I'd sure like to use it since it is much easier on my ears with my hearing loss.


Any idea why I can't use Mark?


Dan Beaver


Re: Windows 10 App Essentials add-on 16.09,1 released

Christo de Klerk
 

Hi Joseph

I don't know if you saw, but a few days ago I wrote that the latest version of the add-on does not work properly in the Win 10 Weather app. When I disable the app, the Weather app works quite well. If I activate it and then go into the Weather app, whenever I move around, I get that dong sound you get with the NVDA snapshots. I am using the latest NVDA snapshot.

Kind regards

Christo

On 2016/09/06 4:53 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi Andre,
1. NVDA says "edit": Mick Curran from NV Access says this is a recent thing and have written a fix for it. Unfortunately, the fix is part of a branch that isn't ready for wider testing, and porting it to the add-on isn't trivial.
2. Readme structure problem: I've noticed it myself. I'll commit a fix for it (16.09.1A) in about half an hour as I'm also releasing a new add-on snapshot today.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Andre Fisher
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 7:45 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials add-on 16.09,1 released

Hello Joseph.
Quick observations on my end.
1. The message content of the Mail app still reports "edit" after every press of down/up arrow.
2. The add-on help file seems to be broken. That is, there is no proper structure like headings and links.

On 9/6/16, David Moore <jesusloves1966@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
I just installed it and it works great in the areas Joseph mentioned.
David Moore


From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 12:06 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials add-on 16.09,1 released

Hi all,



I'm delighted to announce the release of Windows 10 App Essentials
16.09.1, a minor bug fix release for WinTenApps 16.09.x. The new
release can be found
at:

https://github.com/josephsl/wintenApps/releases/tag/16.09.1



Changelog:



* Appearance of suggestions for search fields is now brailled (mostly
for apps such as Settings).

* NVDA no longer announces "read-only" for Calendar's appointment name
field and Mail's message content.

* In Maps, fixed an issue where one could not use TAB key to move
between controls.



Cheers,

Joseph






Re: Windows 10 App Essentials add-on 16.09,1 released

Gene
 

Here are some more thoughts:
Also, temporarily, using the speech dictionary to stop the word or phrase from being spoken may help.  But again, this may be too extreme a work around unless you can limit it to one program.  I don't know if you can limit changes in the speech dictionary to just one program.  I haven't used the speech dictionary in newer versions of NVDA so I don't know if that ability is now available. 
 
But also, the first question is whether this problem can be easily worked around in another way.  Does it occur when you use the read to end command or just when you up or down arrow through a message? 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 9:56 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials add-on 16.09,1 released

There may be a way to stop edit or read only edit from being spoken as a work around until the problem is fixed.  there may be a setting you can turn off that stops announcements that describe the kind of field you are in.  But that may be more extreme than you want unless you can limit the change to this one program.  Perhaps a profile can limit it to just that program. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 9:44 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials add-on 16.09,1 released

Hello Joseph.
Quick observations on my end.
1. The message content of the Mail app still reports "edit" after
every press of down/up arrow.
2. The add-on help file seems to be broken. That is, there is no
proper structure like headings and links.

On 9/6/16, David Moore <jesusloves1966@...> wrote:
> Hi all,
> I just installed it and it works great in the areas Joseph mentioned.
> David Moore
>
>
> From: Joseph Lee
> Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 12:06 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials add-on 16.09,1 released
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> I'm delighted to announce the release of Windows 10 App Essentials 16.09.1,
> a minor bug fix release for WinTenApps 16.09.x. The new release can be found
> at:
>
> https://github.com/josephsl/wintenApps/releases/tag/16.09.1
>
>
>
> Changelog:
>
>
>
> * Appearance of suggestions for search fields is now brailled (mostly for
> apps such as Settings).
>
> * NVDA no longer announces "read-only" for Calendar's appointment name field
> and Mail's message content.
>
> * In Maps, fixed an issue where one could not use TAB key to move between
> controls.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Joseph
>
>
>
>



Re: Windows 10 App Essentials add-on 16.09,1 released

 

Hi,

Actually, the issue cannot be solved with a configuration profile: it’s the way Mail exposes information to NVDA, and Mick wrote a fix for it (for those tracking the source code, it’s part of EdgeRS1 branch).
Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 7:56 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials add-on 16.09,1 released

 

There may be a way to stop edit or read only edit from being spoken as a work around until the problem is fixed.  there may be a setting you can turn off that stops announcements that describe the kind of field you are in.  But that may be more extreme than you want unless you can limit the change to this one program.  Perhaps a profile can limit it to just that program. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 9:44 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials add-on 16.09,1 released

 

Hello Joseph.
Quick observations on my end.
1. The message content of the Mail app still reports "edit" after
every press of down/up arrow.
2. The add-on help file seems to be broken. That is, there is no
proper structure like headings and links.

On 9/6/16, David Moore <jesusloves1966@...> wrote:
> Hi all,
> I just installed it and it works great in the areas Joseph mentioned.
> David Moore
>
>
> From: Joseph Lee
> Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 12:06 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials add-on 16.09,1 released
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> I'm delighted to announce the release of Windows 10 App Essentials 16.09.1,
> a minor bug fix release for WinTenApps 16.09.x. The new release can be found
> at:
>
> https://github.com/josephsl/wintenApps/releases/tag/16.09.1
>
>
>
> Changelog:
>
>
>
> * Appearance of suggestions for search fields is now brailled (mostly for
> apps such as Settings).
>
> * NVDA no longer announces "read-only" for Calendar's appointment name field
> and Mail's message content.
>
> * In Maps, fixed an issue where one could not use TAB key to move between
> controls.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Joseph
>
>
>
>


Re: you are invited to upgrade to NonVisual Desktop Access 2016.3

 

Hi Kerry,

Regarding SPL, could you ask your husband to write to me (current maintainer of SPL add-on for NVDA) privately? Thanks.

Cheers,

joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kerry Fielding
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 3:30 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] you are invited to upgrade to NonVisual Desktop Access 2016.3

 

I downloaded this yesterday and associated draft not being spoken in outlook 2016 is much welcomed.  It drove me crazy.  I just want to say that from a JFW user’s perspective, you guys are almost there in converting me to a full NVDA user.  I’m finding now that especially for tabular information, NVDA works much better for me and I think my husband may be tempted to use it himself.  He just has the little issue of Station Playlist Studio and Station Playlist Streamer which will be the things that hold him back I suspect.

 

You guys rock!!!!!! As for testers, I’d be very pleased to help with any testing necessary.  I’m probably not as geeky as some testers on this list but as someone who is an extremely advanced computer user and uses their computer for working from home and for leisure purposes it’s in my best interests to ensure that screenreader accessibility is not just limited to those that can afford the expensive stuff.  I’m also very very excited to see what happens in November.  Cheap braille?  Mouthwatering!  Something I’ve longed for for a long time and given I can’t get any support from Access To Work because my turnover isn’t what they consider to be worthy, it looks like I’m saving for a braille display.

 

Kerry

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: 06 September 2016 07:15
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] you are invited to upgrade to NonVisual Desktop Access 2016.3

 

Dear citizens of the NVDA land:

 

Yes, it is official: one of the ministers of NVDA land, a certain Mr. Teh, has just ordered the horsemen to announce a good news throughout the land:

 

NVDA 2016.3 is officially out:

http://www.nvaccess.org/post/announcing-nvda-2016-3-release/

 

So what’s new, changed and fixed:

 

From RC2: no changes.

 

Highlights:

 

·         You can now disable individual add-ons.

·         NVDA is more cofmpatible with Windows 10 Anniversary Update (version 1607). Among the things included are return of browse mode in Edge, announcing newer UAC prompts, ability to navigate PDF documents in Edge and more.

·         NVDA+F9/NVDA+F10 command behavior change is now official.

·         Color announcement has been simplified.

·         NVDA no longer announces “associated draft” in Outlook 2016.

·         NVDA can now announce line spacing in Microsoft Word.

·         Various enhancements.

 

A sneak preview at 2016.4: three game-changing features will be served as part of Thanksgiving Party this November:

 

·         Ever wanted to hear line indentation via beeps? You can do that starting in November.

·         Want to experience the next chapter in assistive technology history? Or would you like to be one of the first ones to experience a combination of a free screen reader and a low-cost braille display? Stay tuned, as this combination will change your life in November.

·         Needed an assistant in persuading web or app developers about accessibility needs of screen reader users? The wait is almost over: let NVDA volunteer for you from November onwards.

 

The rest: let’s just say the ministers at NVDA land are holding council every day, looking over this land and thinking about the needs of citizens and planning the next great adventure for the people of this land.

 

Personally, I’m excited to see what NVDA can do in opening opportunities for many people, particularly for those who’re using Windows 10. On behalf of people who’ve contributed to NVDA 2016.3 development, I wish you best in your endeavor as you use NVDA 2016.3 in various places (work, school, for fun and in unexpected places). Also, NVDA 2016.3 release announcement will be my final NVDA release announcement (on this list), as I believe the community is ready to welcome new reporters.

 

Thanks.

Cheers,

Joseph


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Re: Windows 10 App Essentials add-on 16.09,1 released

Gene
 

There may be a way to stop edit or read only edit from being spoken as a work around until the problem is fixed.  there may be a setting you can turn off that stops announcements that describe the kind of field you are in.  But that may be more extreme than you want unless you can limit the change to this one program.  Perhaps a profile can limit it to just that program. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 9:44 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials add-on 16.09,1 released

Hello Joseph.
Quick observations on my end.
1. The message content of the Mail app still reports "edit" after
every press of down/up arrow.
2. The add-on help file seems to be broken. That is, there is no
proper structure like headings and links.

On 9/6/16, David Moore <jesusloves1966@...> wrote:
> Hi all,
> I just installed it and it works great in the areas Joseph mentioned.
> David Moore
>
>
> From: Joseph Lee
> Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 12:06 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials add-on 16.09,1 released
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> I'm delighted to announce the release of Windows 10 App Essentials 16.09.1,
> a minor bug fix release for WinTenApps 16.09.x. The new release can be found
> at:
>
> https://github.com/josephsl/wintenApps/releases/tag/16.09.1
>
>
>
> Changelog:
>
>
>
> * Appearance of suggestions for search fields is now brailled (mostly for
> apps such as Settings).
>
> * NVDA no longer announces "read-only" for Calendar's appointment name field
> and Mail's message content.
>
> * In Maps, fixed an issue where one could not use TAB key to move between
> controls.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Joseph
>
>
>
>



Re: you are invited to upgrade to NonVisual Desktop Access 2016.3

 

Hi Kerry,

You can report bugs here, and one of us (Quentin, I or others) will send them to NV Access on your behalf.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kerry Fielding
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 4:51 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] you are invited to upgrade to NonVisual Desktop Access 2016.3

 

I forgot to ask, where I report bugs to should I test?

 

Kerry

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: 06 September 2016 12:15
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] you are invited to upgrade to NonVisual Desktop Access 2016.3

 

Hi everyone,

 

Joseph, thank you so much for your wonderfully evocative announcement and information, and indeed thank you for everything you have given, and continue to give the community.

 

Nasrin,

The system requirements for NVDA haven't changed, that is per: http://www.nvaccess.org/about/nvda-features/

 

"NVDA runs on both 32-bit and 64-bit editions of Microsoft Windows XP or later. NVDA has no additional hardware requirements beyond those of the operating system and requires around 50 MB of disk space."

 

And Kerry, we would love to have you on board as a tester!

 

The "beta" builds are available from: http://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/snapshots/

 

As the page indicates, "Next" are what you might call "alpha" releases - new code and new changes and no guarantee everything works as it should.  "Master" are features which have already been tested in "next" builds and are a little more polished and more likely to end up in a final version of NVDA and we encourage wider testing of these builds.

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 8:30 PM, Kerry Fielding <littlemisslovely1973@...> wrote:

I downloaded this yesterday and associated draft not being spoken in outlook 2016 is much welcomed.  It drove me crazy.  I just want to say that from a JFW user’s perspective, you guys are almost there in converting me to a full NVDA user.  I’m finding now that especially for tabular information, NVDA works much better for me and I think my husband may be tempted to use it himself.  He just has the little issue of Station Playlist Studio and Station Playlist Streamer which will be the things that hold him back I suspect.

 

You guys rock!!!!!! As for testers, I’d be very pleased to help with any testing necessary.  I’m probably not as geeky as some testers on this list but as someone who is an extremely advanced computer user and uses their computer for working from home and for leisure purposes it’s in my best interests to ensure that screenreader accessibility is not just limited to those that can afford the expensive stuff.  I’m also very very excited to see what happens in November.  Cheap braille?  Mouthwatering!  Something I’ve longed for for a long time and given I can’t get any support from Access To Work because my turnover isn’t what they consider to be worthy, it looks like I’m saving for a braille display.

 

Kerry

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: 06 September 2016 07:15
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] you are invited to upgrade to NonVisual Desktop Access 2016.3

 

Dear citizens of the NVDA land:

 

Yes, it is official: one of the ministers of NVDA land, a certain Mr. Teh, has just ordered the horsemen to announce a good news throughout the land:

 

NVDA 2016.3 is officially out:

http://www.nvaccess.org/post/announcing-nvda-2016-3-release/

 

So what’s new, changed and fixed:

 

From RC2: no changes.

 

Highlights:

 

·         You can now disable individual add-ons.

·         NVDA is more cofmpatible with Windows 10 Anniversary Update (version 1607). Among the things included are return of browse mode in Edge, announcing newer UAC prompts, ability to navigate PDF documents in Edge and more.

·         NVDA+F9/NVDA+F10 command behavior change is now official.

·         Color announcement has been simplified.

·         NVDA no longer announces “associated draft” in Outlook 2016.

·         NVDA can now announce line spacing in Microsoft Word.

·         Various enhancements.

 

A sneak preview at 2016.4: three game-changing features will be served as part of Thanksgiving Party this November:

 

·         Ever wanted to hear line indentation via beeps? You can do that starting in November.

·         Want to experience the next chapter in assistive technology history? Or would you like to be one of the first ones to experience a combination of a free screen reader and a low-cost braille display? Stay tuned, as this combination will change your life in November.

·         Needed an assistant in persuading web or app developers about accessibility needs of screen reader users? The wait is almost over: let NVDA volunteer for you from November onwards.

 

The rest: let’s just say the ministers at NVDA land are holding council every day, looking over this land and thinking about the needs of citizens and planning the next great adventure for the people of this land.

 

Personally, I’m excited to see what NVDA can do in opening opportunities for many people, particularly for those who’re using Windows 10. On behalf of people who’ve contributed to NVDA 2016.3 development, I wish you best in your endeavor as you use NVDA 2016.3 in various places (work, school, for fun and in unexpected places). Also, NVDA 2016.3 release announcement will be my final NVDA release announcement (on this list), as I believe the community is ready to welcome new reporters.

 

Thanks.

Cheers,

Joseph


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Re: Windows 10 App Essentials add-on 16.09,1 released

 

Hi Andre,
1. NVDA says "edit": Mick Curran from NV Access says this is a recent thing and have written a fix for it. Unfortunately, the fix is part of a branch that isn't ready for wider testing, and porting it to the add-on isn't trivial.
2. Readme structure problem: I've noticed it myself. I'll commit a fix for it (16.09.1A) in about half an hour as I'm also releasing a new add-on snapshot today.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Andre Fisher
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 7:45 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials add-on 16.09,1 released

Hello Joseph.
Quick observations on my end.
1. The message content of the Mail app still reports "edit" after every press of down/up arrow.
2. The add-on help file seems to be broken. That is, there is no proper structure like headings and links.

On 9/6/16, David Moore <jesusloves1966@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
I just installed it and it works great in the areas Joseph mentioned.
David Moore


From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 12:06 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials add-on 16.09,1 released

Hi all,



I'm delighted to announce the release of Windows 10 App Essentials
16.09.1, a minor bug fix release for WinTenApps 16.09.x. The new
release can be found
at:

https://github.com/josephsl/wintenApps/releases/tag/16.09.1



Changelog:



* Appearance of suggestions for search fields is now brailled (mostly
for apps such as Settings).

* NVDA no longer announces "read-only" for Calendar's appointment name
field and Mail's message content.

* In Maps, fixed an issue where one could not use TAB key to move
between controls.



Cheers,

Joseph




Re: Windows 10 App Essentials add-on 16.09,1 released

Andre Fisher
 

Hello Joseph.
Quick observations on my end.
1. The message content of the Mail app still reports "edit" after
every press of down/up arrow.
2. The add-on help file seems to be broken. That is, there is no
proper structure like headings and links.

On 9/6/16, David Moore <jesusloves1966@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
I just installed it and it works great in the areas Joseph mentioned.
David Moore


From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 12:06 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials add-on 16.09,1 released

Hi all,



I'm delighted to announce the release of Windows 10 App Essentials 16.09.1,
a minor bug fix release for WinTenApps 16.09.x. The new release can be found
at:

https://github.com/josephsl/wintenApps/releases/tag/16.09.1



Changelog:



* Appearance of suggestions for search fields is now brailled (mostly for
apps such as Settings).

* NVDA no longer announces "read-only" for Calendar's appointment name field
and Mail's message content.

* In Maps, fixed an issue where one could not use TAB key to move between
controls.



Cheers,

Joseph




Re: NVDA 2016.3 and Speech hub

Isaac Porat
 

Hi


As I said I maintain SpeechHub, No new features since July 2015 but I make sure everything works as I use it myself.


I have tried SpeechHub with the NVDA latest version 2016.3 and it works fine.


Assuming you installed SpeechHub and have installed the NVDA add-on supplied with the installer (instructions on the website) it should work.

It works well with Java 8 (Java 7 is insecure if you have it, you should remove it anyway).
A problem encountered by some people is with their firewall. SpeechHub is an internal server and you need to make sure that Java is allowed to communicate.

If anybody has a problem, you are welcome to contact me at:

speechhub@speakon.org.uk


The website is at:
www.speechhub.org

Regards
Isaac

On 06/09/2016 07:57, Dang Manh Cuong wrote:
To all listers
Using NVDA 2016.3RC2, and the speech hub add-on didn't work. Try reinstall, and NvDA faild to install that add-on.
Just a quick report.
Cuong
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Re: Facebook on Chrome with NVDA

 

I tried NVDA with Firefox on Surface 3, and it lags a number of times, especially on sites that are more media-heavy. It also lags a lot when using Outlook.com.


Re: Facebook on Chrome with NVDA

Kerry Fielding <littlemisslovely1973@...>
 

NVDA is quicker on firefox than JFW trust me lol.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Supanut Leepaisomboon
Sent: 06 September 2016 15:16
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Facebook on Chrome with NVDA

 

Oh. I'm using the latest stable version. Will this ever gets fixed? I'm tired of Firefox because it is quite laggy, especially on sites with flash contents.


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Re: Facebook on Chrome with NVDA

 

Oh. I'm using the latest stable version. Will this ever gets fixed? I'm tired of Firefox because it is quite laggy, especially on sites with flash contents.