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NVDA remote

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

I was working with a friend and found that his remote was still 2.1.  We highlighted it and clicked remove and it  says “r=waiting for restart. Its not going away no matter how often you restart NVDA.

 

******If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning start?***     

 

An accessible screen recorder.

 

I saw this on Twitter. A totally blind user tweeted that they finally found a fully accessible screen recorder that is not made by Microsoft. They did say there was a bug in the software, but have no idea what that bug is. The link is below. It's called wincam. I'm gonna add this to the applications wiki github after I give this a try.

https://www.ntwind.com/software/wincam.html

Re: Station playlist

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

I just forwarded a message from Ross to the other list.

 

******If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning start?***     

 

From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 4:57 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Station playlist

 

Hi all,

After investigating the issue posted by Robert and trying to think of a way to resolve it, I came to a point where I must say, I give up. The issue is as follows:

In StationPlaylist Creator, you can create track categories for scheduling, and from within a category, you can filter tracks based on criteria. The issue is that this criteria screen isn’t usable by screen reader users: dynamic handles, no labels, inefficient accessibility layout, and so on.

The issue calls for “creating” (or rather, generating) labels for unlabeled controls. One way is screen review emulation (where text around the location where the cursor is will be looked up), generating labels based on loops (where NVDA will loop through a screen and generate labels for various controls if possible), and perhaps other tricks. Although any of these may yield results, one particular solution (looping) will affect NVDA’s responsiveness to some degree (I personally care a lot about responsiveness, and I prefer not to resolve accessibility problems if it affects NVDA’s responsiveness and user experience in a negative way). In the past, I and other broadcasters reached out to developer of StationPlaylist Creator, and it appears part of the problem lies with the toolkit in use (StationPlaylist Creator and Studio uses Delphi, thus NVDA can use MSAA/IAccessible API; at one point, the developer hinted at using UI Automation, but noted that it requires toolkit upgrades which is very risky).

I know how important it is for users of StationPlaylist Creator to have a usable user experience, at least via StationPlaylist add-on which I’ve been developing and maintaining for the last six years. But given the situation described above, I feel I may just give up on Creator (at least certain features in Creator); besides, I’m in a moment in life where I need to truly scale back my efforts in maintaining StationPlaylist add-on.

Therefore I would like to sincerely request that the NVDA community do the following:

  1. Please petition Ross Levis, the creator of StationPlaylist suite to invest more in accessibility based on feedback from screen reader users, especially when it comes to various unlabeled controls in Creator.
  2. Please help me by finding or training someone who is willing to maintain SPL add-on in the future (in case I hand over the add-on to the community; it will certainly happen, but don’t know exactly when). Part of the reason why I maintain this add-on is due to love for broadcasting and a thrill of maintaining an add-on that changes lives (even though I don’t actively use StationPlaylist suite), and tend to be one of the skilled add-on authors around and knows StationPlaylist suite to a point where I can come up with workarounds and features. Ideally StationPlaylist add-on should be maintained by broadcasters who are actual experts in this broadcasting suite and skilled in add-on writing, but as of 2019, only a handful have the willingness to do this (actually, nobody else).


Thanks. At least for now, to Robert, I’m sorry to let you down.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 1:18 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Station playlist

 

Hi,

Subscription address is:

Nvda-spl+subscribe@nvda-spl.groups.io

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of lynn white
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 1:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Station playlist

 

Hi Joseph,

 

How do you subscribe to the NVDA SPL list?  Thanks.

On 10/17/2019 2:42 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi,

Let’s discuss this further on the NVDA-SPL list, because I need slightly more time to go through this topic.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 12:08 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Station playlist

 

If it would help I could send you the tutorial I have that talks about creator. Jonathan Mosen did it.

 

******If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning start?***     

 

From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 8:37 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Station playlist

 

Hi,

If I get to know that area (and learn how to use it), perhaps. Specifically, I need to know procedures, what’s not working, and how should the add-on work there.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 7:28 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Station playlist

 

By chance is the addon set to work in the criteria area for SPL creator.

 

******If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning start?***     

 

 

 

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Re: Station playlist

 

Hi all,

After investigating the issue posted by Robert and trying to think of a way to resolve it, I came to a point where I must say, I give up. The issue is as follows:

In StationPlaylist Creator, you can create track categories for scheduling, and from within a category, you can filter tracks based on criteria. The issue is that this criteria screen isn’t usable by screen reader users: dynamic handles, no labels, inefficient accessibility layout, and so on.

The issue calls for “creating” (or rather, generating) labels for unlabeled controls. One way is screen review emulation (where text around the location where the cursor is will be looked up), generating labels based on loops (where NVDA will loop through a screen and generate labels for various controls if possible), and perhaps other tricks. Although any of these may yield results, one particular solution (looping) will affect NVDA’s responsiveness to some degree (I personally care a lot about responsiveness, and I prefer not to resolve accessibility problems if it affects NVDA’s responsiveness and user experience in a negative way). In the past, I and other broadcasters reached out to developer of StationPlaylist Creator, and it appears part of the problem lies with the toolkit in use (StationPlaylist Creator and Studio uses Delphi, thus NVDA can use MSAA/IAccessible API; at one point, the developer hinted at using UI Automation, but noted that it requires toolkit upgrades which is very risky).

I know how important it is for users of StationPlaylist Creator to have a usable user experience, at least via StationPlaylist add-on which I’ve been developing and maintaining for the last six years. But given the situation described above, I feel I may just give up on Creator (at least certain features in Creator); besides, I’m in a moment in life where I need to truly scale back my efforts in maintaining StationPlaylist add-on.

Therefore I would like to sincerely request that the NVDA community do the following:

  1. Please petition Ross Levis, the creator of StationPlaylist suite to invest more in accessibility based on feedback from screen reader users, especially when it comes to various unlabeled controls in Creator.
  2. Please help me by finding or training someone who is willing to maintain SPL add-on in the future (in case I hand over the add-on to the community; it will certainly happen, but don’t know exactly when). Part of the reason why I maintain this add-on is due to love for broadcasting and a thrill of maintaining an add-on that changes lives (even though I don’t actively use StationPlaylist suite), and tend to be one of the skilled add-on authors around and knows StationPlaylist suite to a point where I can come up with workarounds and features. Ideally StationPlaylist add-on should be maintained by broadcasters who are actual experts in this broadcasting suite and skilled in add-on writing, but as of 2019, only a handful have the willingness to do this (actually, nobody else).


Thanks. At least for now, to Robert, I’m sorry to let you down.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 1:18 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Station playlist

 

Hi,

Subscription address is:

Nvda-spl+subscribe@nvda-spl.groups.io

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of lynn white
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 1:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Station playlist

 

Hi Joseph,

 

How do you subscribe to the NVDA SPL list?  Thanks.

On 10/17/2019 2:42 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi,

Let’s discuss this further on the NVDA-SPL list, because I need slightly more time to go through this topic.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 12:08 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Station playlist

 

If it would help I could send you the tutorial I have that talks about creator. Jonathan Mosen did it.

 

******If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning start?***     

 

From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 8:37 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Station playlist

 

Hi,

If I get to know that area (and learn how to use it), perhaps. Specifically, I need to know procedures, what’s not working, and how should the add-on work there.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 7:28 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Station playlist

 

By chance is the addon set to work in the criteria area for SPL creator.

 

******If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning start?***     

 

 

 


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Re: Capturing computer audio

Arlene
 

I know this thread ran its course. I’ll just learn how to use Goldwave.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Sarah k Alawami
Sent: October 17, 2019 8:16 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Capturing computer audio

 

No, it is not free. And that blind help site shoudl seriously be taken down. It does cost, I can't remember how much as i don't use the app. We cannot have everytrhign for free. Everything including free has a price.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.

to subscribe to the feed click here

Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc.

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on youtube, twitch and mixer. Thanks Restream staff.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 17 Oct 2019, at 2:16, Chris Mullins wrote:

Hi Arlene

I’ll have another go.  Yes it’s free, have a look at this site:

 

https://blindhelp.net/software/virtual-recorder-13

 

Cheers

Chris

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: 17 October 2019 05:14
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Capturing computer audio

 

Is virtual recorder free? Or do you have to pay for it?

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Chris Mullins
Sent: October 16, 2019 1:58 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Capturing computer audio

 

Hi

If I do not want NVDA to spoil a recording I switch it to silent mode.  I record a lot from Youtube and the fact that there are shortcut keys to control Virtual Recorder, means I can put focus on the start button of YouTube, use NVDA+s to put NVDA in silent mode, press Windows+Control+g to start the recorder, then press enter to start Youtube playing.  When I’ve recorded what I want, I press Windows+Control+h to stop recording, NVDA+s twice to restore NVDA speech, then do whatever I need to do with Youtube.  Virtual Recorder also has a settting to silence system sounds, so yu don’t get the chime of arriving emails halfway through your recording.  Works a treat.

 

Cheers

Chris       

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: 15 October 2019 21:48
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Capturing computer audio

 

If you use Audacity or other programs to capture Audio. Wil any screen reader be heard in the back ground?

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Luke Davis
Sent: October 15, 2019 4:49 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Capturing computer audio

 

Audacity is good at this. They have a tutorial page that instructs on how to do

it:

 

https://manual.audacityteam.org/man/tutorial_recording_computer_playback_on_windows.html

 

Luke

 

On Mon, 14 Oct 2019, Sile via Groups.Io wrote:

 

> What is the easiest way to capture the audio from NVDA - I have to send

> feedback on a webpage to Google and they asked me to navigate and send them

> the audio output.

 

 

 

 

 

Re: Station playlist

 

Hi,

Subscription address is:

Nvda-spl+subscribe@nvda-spl.groups.io

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of lynn white
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 1:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Station playlist

 

Hi Joseph,

 

How do you subscribe to the NVDA SPL list?  Thanks.

On 10/17/2019 2:42 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi,

Let’s discuss this further on the NVDA-SPL list, because I need slightly more time to go through this topic.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 12:08 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Station playlist

 

If it would help I could send you the tutorial I have that talks about creator. Jonathan Mosen did it.

 

******If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning start?***     

 

From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 8:37 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Station playlist

 

Hi,

If I get to know that area (and learn how to use it), perhaps. Specifically, I need to know procedures, what’s not working, and how should the add-on work there.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 7:28 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Station playlist

 

By chance is the addon set to work in the criteria area for SPL creator.

 

******If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning start?***     

 

 

 


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Re: Station playlist

lynn white
 

Hi Joseph,


How do you subscribe to the NVDA SPL list?  Thanks.

On 10/17/2019 2:42 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi,

Let’s discuss this further on the NVDA-SPL list, because I need slightly more time to go through this topic.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 12:08 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Station playlist

 

If it would help I could send you the tutorial I have that talks about creator. Jonathan Mosen did it.

 

******If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning start?***     

 

From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 8:37 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Station playlist

 

Hi,

If I get to know that area (and learn how to use it), perhaps. Specifically, I need to know procedures, what’s not working, and how should the add-on work there.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 7:28 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Station playlist

 

By chance is the addon set to work in the criteria area for SPL creator.

 

******If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning start?***     

 

 




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Re: Station playlist

 

Hi,

Let’s discuss this further on the NVDA-SPL list, because I need slightly more time to go through this topic.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 12:08 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Station playlist

 

If it would help I could send you the tutorial I have that talks about creator. Jonathan Mosen did it.

 

******If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning start?***     

 

From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 8:37 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Station playlist

 

Hi,

If I get to know that area (and learn how to use it), perhaps. Specifically, I need to know procedures, what’s not working, and how should the add-on work there.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 7:28 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Station playlist

 

By chance is the addon set to work in the criteria area for SPL creator.

 

******If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning start?***     

 

 

Re: Station playlist

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

If it would help I could send you the tutorial I have that talks about creator. Jonathan Mosen did it.

 

******If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning start?***     

 

From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 8:37 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Station playlist

 

Hi,

If I get to know that area (and learn how to use it), perhaps. Specifically, I need to know procedures, what’s not working, and how should the add-on work there.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 7:28 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Station playlist

 

By chance is the addon set to work in the criteria area for SPL creator.

 

******If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning start?***     

 

 

Re: Capturing computer audio

Sarah k Alawami
 

Ah. I know why I'm getting confused. I'm thinking of total recorder which is not free. I apologize for my rant there, well, at least the part of no it is not free. Again I'm so sorry.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.

to subscribe to the feed click here

Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc.

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on youtube, twitch and mixer. Thanks Restream staff.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 17 Oct 2019, at 9:17, Brian Vogel wrote:

On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 11:16 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
No, it is not free.
Uh, yes, it is.   It was a Sourceforge open source project that, now that I've had the time to dig, has been relocated to Github:

https://github.com/rdp/screen-capture-recorder-to-video-windows-free

Taken directly from the README for Virtual Recorder Portable, with my own revision with regard to the obsolete link versus the current one:
----------------------------------------
Virtual Recorder 1.4.0.2
 
 
Introduction:
 
Virtual Recorder is a GUI/frontend for Virtual Audio Capture Device 
OBSOLETE LINK:  https://sourceforge.net/projects/virtualaudiodev/files/
CURRENT GitHub Link:  https://github.com/rdp/screen-capture-recorder-to-video-windows-free
and the command line media converter FFmpeg.
http://ffmpeg.org/
 
Virtual Audio Capture Device is a DirectShow audio device which can be used to capture/record what is playing through your speakers.  It is also possible to record what is being played through your speakers if your sound card has a loopback feature usually called 
"Stereo Mix"/"What You Hear"
Unfortunately, not all sound cards support this feature, especially on laptops.  Some other applications like Total Recorder, GoldWave, and Audacity can also record what is being played through your speakers.  In the case of Total Recorder using it's own virtual audio drivers.  In the case of GoldWave and Audacity using the WASAPI loopback feature which is native to versions of Windows starting with Vista.  However, Total Recorder and GoldWave are not free, and with the WASAPI loopback feature in Audacity, I kept receiving errors.  FFmpeg is capable of accessing DirectShow audio devices for capturing/recording, but it is a command line utility with many confusing parameters for the average user.  All of the above reasons prompted me to start working on Virtual Recorder.  Virtual Recorder is free, and probably much easier to use than programs like Total Recorder, GoldWave, and Audacity if all you want is a basic audio recorder which can record what you hear, your sound card's input, or both at the same time.  Virtual Recorder is not an attempt to compete with such applications.  It is a simple audio recorder, that is all.
 
 
Recording:
 
Most of the options should be fairly self-explanatory so I won't go into great detail, but I will briefly mention and describe a few things which may not be so obvious.  As mentioned above, you can record from the virtual capture device which will only record what is playing through your speakers.  (I.E. System sounds, audio from other applications including your browser, and so on.)  Of course this means that if you are recording an internet stream for example, system sounds, sounds produced by other applications, and anything else you might play will also be recorded.  You should take steps when making such recordings to avoid this issue by not running such applications and possibly even disabling system sounds in Control Panel.  You can also record from your sound card's line-in and microphone.  Finally, you can record from both the virtual capture device and your sound card's line-in/microphone at the same time which might be useful for recording podcasts, Skype sessions, and so on.  You can select what is recorded using the 
"Recording source"
combo box.  If you select the 
"Sound Card""
or 
"Both"
options, you should also choose the appropriate input from the 
"Device"
combo box.  Keep in mind that the virtual capture device only records from which ever sound card is configured as the default system playback device in Control Panel.  So if you wanted to record both sides of a Skype session, you would have to take a few steps first.
 
1. Make sure that the speakers or headset you are using in Skype are configured as the default playback device in Control Panel.  It is not enough to select the device in the Skype audio settings.  You can access the default audio devices in Control Panel quickly by pressing Windows key R to open the 
"Run"
dialog, and then typing 
mmsys.cpl
followed by Enter.
 
2. Make sure that in Virtual Recorder, the 
"Both"
option is selected in the 
"Recording source"
combo box.
 
3. Select the microphone you are using in the 
"Device"
combo box.
 
Note that when recording from both the virtual capture device and your sound card at the same time, you may have overall lower levels in the resulting file.  Use Virtual Recorder's 
"Record Volume"
to compensate for this.  It may require some experimentation to achieve desirable results.
 
The virtual capture device will not work on XP.  It relies on the WASAPI loopback feature which is only available in versions of Windows starting with Vista.  Therefore, on XP the 
"Recording source"
combo box will not be visible and only recording from the sound card is supported.
 
You can type a prefix which will be used in the file names of recordings.  The current date/time will always be appended to file names so if you leave the 
"File name prefix"
field blank, a name will still be automatically generated which consists of only the date and time.
 
You can record to the lossless flac/compressed, mp3, ogg, or lossless wav/uncompressed audio formats.  Other formats could easily be added, but I figured these are the four most commonly used.
 
 
Options:
 
If you select the 
"Options"
button, you can configure some settings such as whether the program runs at startup, minimized to the tray, or completely hidden by disabling the tray icon.  There is also a 
"Global Hotkeys"
tab where you can assign hotkeys for starting, stopping, pausing, and resuming recording when either the main window does not have focus or is otherwise hidden.  You can also assign a hotkey for activating/showing the main window when it is hidden.  Note that you cannot disable the tray icon unless the 
"Show main window"
hotkey is assigned since otherwise you would not be able to access the program's main window.  For each hotkey, there is an associated 
"Windows Key"
checkbox.  Use this checkbox if you want to use the Windows key modifier as part of your shortcut combination.  For example, if you wanted to use Control-Windows-F12 to start recording, you would press Control F12 in the hotkey field and then enable the associated 
"Windows Key"
checkbox.
 
All settings are saved in the file 
VirtualRecorder.ini
located in the same folder as the program's main executable.
 
 
Command line parameters:
 
Last but not least, there are a few command line parameters for scheduling recordings with the Windows Task Scheduler or other scheduling software.  Use -r to have the program start recording automatically, -t to set a duration for the recording, and -x to have the program close automatically when it is finished recording.  The format for the duration should be hh:mm:ss (hours:minutes:seconds).
 
For example, to have the program record for 1 hour and then close, use the following command:
 
VirtualRecorder.exe -r -t 01:00:00 -x
 
Record for 1 hour and 30 seconds:
 
VirtualRecorder.exe -r -t 01:00:30 -x
 
Record for 1 hour and 1 minute:
 
VirtualRecorder.exe -r -t 01:01:00 -x
 
Record for half an hour, but leave the program running:
 
VirtualRecorder.exe -r -t 00:30:00
 
Start recording and continue recording until manually stopped:
 
VirtualRecorder.exe -r
 
Note that when recording using command line parameters, the shown/hidden state of the main window will depend on the settings in the 
"Options"
dialog.
 
 
There is both an installer and a portable package for Virtual Recorder, but due to requirements for making it portable, the two executables are not the same.  In other words, do not attempt to use the installed executable in portable mode.  It will not work correctly.  Also, since the portable version requires administrator privileges to register the virtual audio capture device, if UAC is enabled you will always be prompted when the program starts.  This is slightly annoying, but it is the best I can do for now.
 
 
Announcements about updates to Virtual Recorder and my other projects will be posted on the Tech Talk mailing list.
 
Subscribe:
main+subscribe@TechTalk.groups.io
Post:
main@TechTalk.groups.io
 
Note that the list is fairly high traffic so if large amounts of incoming mail is a concern, please keep this point in mind before subscribing.
 
 
Send comments, questions and suggestions to: carlos1106@...
 
Copyright (C) 2017 Carlos Nazario
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362  

The color of truth is grey.

           ~ André Gide

 

 

Re: Capturing computer audio

 

This topic has run its course now, too.   I would ask that anyone who wants to discuss using Virtual Recorder please do so on the Chat Subgroup:

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Windows 10 App Essentials 19.10.2 on October 1h, next update requires NVDA 2019.2.1 #addonrelease

 

Hi all,

 

Windows 10 App Essentials 19.10.2 will hit the air on October 18th (as of time of this writing, tomorrow). This version includes a subtle change to emoji panel support to make it align with several pull requests sent to NV Access.

 

IMPORTANT: 19.10.2 will be the last version to support NVDA 2019.1, with 19.11 requiring NVDA 2019.2.1. This decision was made to ease the transition to NVDA 2019.3 from this add-on later this year. As I noted from a few months ago, a future version of Windows 10 App Essentials (not 19.11) will require NVDA 2019.3 for reasons not related to Python 3 – there were changes made in NVDA 2019.3 which makes certain features and workarounds from this add-on unnecessary. Coupled with preparing to end support for October 2018 Update from this add-on in January 2020, I felt it is way easier to assume you’re using latest NVDA public release ahead of schedule to make my life less complicated (I know I sound selfish, but given tons of changes between NVDA 2019.1 and upcoming 2019.3, it makes sense; for instance, there is a new handy function in Windows version module (introduced in 2019.2) that makes it possible to easily detect if you’re on Windows 10 or a specific revision of Windows 10, and NVDA 2019.3 will announce correct product information and version for universal apps, something the add-on currently includes for older NVDA releases).

 

As for Windows 10 App Essentials and NVDA 2019.3 (specifically, requiring 2019.3), I’ll announce when the switchover will occur after 2019.3 beta is released.

Cheers,

Joseph

Re: Capturing computer audio

 

On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 11:16 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
No, it is not free.
Uh, yes, it is.   It was a Sourceforge open source project that, now that I've had the time to dig, has been relocated to Github:

https://github.com/rdp/screen-capture-recorder-to-video-windows-free

Taken directly from the README for Virtual Recorder Portable, with my own revision with regard to the obsolete link versus the current one:
----------------------------------------
Virtual Recorder 1.4.0.2
 
 
Introduction:
 
Virtual Recorder is a GUI/frontend for Virtual Audio Capture Device 
OBSOLETE LINK:  https://sourceforge.net/projects/virtualaudiodev/files/
CURRENT GitHub Link:  https://github.com/rdp/screen-capture-recorder-to-video-windows-free
and the command line media converter FFmpeg.
http://ffmpeg.org/
 
Virtual Audio Capture Device is a DirectShow audio device which can be used to capture/record what is playing through your speakers.  It is also possible to record what is being played through your speakers if your sound card has a loopback feature usually called 
"Stereo Mix"/"What You Hear"
Unfortunately, not all sound cards support this feature, especially on laptops.  Some other applications like Total Recorder, GoldWave, and Audacity can also record what is being played through your speakers.  In the case of Total Recorder using it's own virtual audio drivers.  In the case of GoldWave and Audacity using the WASAPI loopback feature which is native to versions of Windows starting with Vista.  However, Total Recorder and GoldWave are not free, and with the WASAPI loopback feature in Audacity, I kept receiving errors.  FFmpeg is capable of accessing DirectShow audio devices for capturing/recording, but it is a command line utility with many confusing parameters for the average user.  All of the above reasons prompted me to start working on Virtual Recorder.  Virtual Recorder is free, and probably much easier to use than programs like Total Recorder, GoldWave, and Audacity if all you want is a basic audio recorder which can record what you hear, your sound card's input, or both at the same time.  Virtual Recorder is not an attempt to compete with such applications.  It is a simple audio recorder, that is all.
 
 
Recording:
 
Most of the options should be fairly self-explanatory so I won't go into great detail, but I will briefly mention and describe a few things which may not be so obvious.  As mentioned above, you can record from the virtual capture device which will only record what is playing through your speakers.  (I.E. System sounds, audio from other applications including your browser, and so on.)  Of course this means that if you are recording an internet stream for example, system sounds, sounds produced by other applications, and anything else you might play will also be recorded.  You should take steps when making such recordings to avoid this issue by not running such applications and possibly even disabling system sounds in Control Panel.  You can also record from your sound card's line-in and microphone.  Finally, you can record from both the virtual capture device and your sound card's line-in/microphone at the same time which might be useful for recording podcasts, Skype sessions, and so on.  You can select what is recorded using the 
"Recording source"
combo box.  If you select the 
"Sound Card""
or 
"Both"
options, you should also choose the appropriate input from the 
"Device"
combo box.  Keep in mind that the virtual capture device only records from which ever sound card is configured as the default system playback device in Control Panel.  So if you wanted to record both sides of a Skype session, you would have to take a few steps first.
 
1. Make sure that the speakers or headset you are using in Skype are configured as the default playback device in Control Panel.  It is not enough to select the device in the Skype audio settings.  You can access the default audio devices in Control Panel quickly by pressing Windows key R to open the 
"Run"
dialog, and then typing 
mmsys.cpl
followed by Enter.
 
2. Make sure that in Virtual Recorder, the 
"Both"
option is selected in the 
"Recording source"
combo box.
 
3. Select the microphone you are using in the 
"Device"
combo box.
 
Note that when recording from both the virtual capture device and your sound card at the same time, you may have overall lower levels in the resulting file.  Use Virtual Recorder's 
"Record Volume"
to compensate for this.  It may require some experimentation to achieve desirable results.
 
The virtual capture device will not work on XP.  It relies on the WASAPI loopback feature which is only available in versions of Windows starting with Vista.  Therefore, on XP the 
"Recording source"
combo box will not be visible and only recording from the sound card is supported.
 
You can type a prefix which will be used in the file names of recordings.  The current date/time will always be appended to file names so if you leave the 
"File name prefix"
field blank, a name will still be automatically generated which consists of only the date and time.
 
You can record to the lossless flac/compressed, mp3, ogg, or lossless wav/uncompressed audio formats.  Other formats could easily be added, but I figured these are the four most commonly used.
 
 
Options:
 
If you select the 
"Options"
button, you can configure some settings such as whether the program runs at startup, minimized to the tray, or completely hidden by disabling the tray icon.  There is also a 
"Global Hotkeys"
tab where you can assign hotkeys for starting, stopping, pausing, and resuming recording when either the main window does not have focus or is otherwise hidden.  You can also assign a hotkey for activating/showing the main window when it is hidden.  Note that you cannot disable the tray icon unless the 
"Show main window"
hotkey is assigned since otherwise you would not be able to access the program's main window.  For each hotkey, there is an associated 
"Windows Key"
checkbox.  Use this checkbox if you want to use the Windows key modifier as part of your shortcut combination.  For example, if you wanted to use Control-Windows-F12 to start recording, you would press Control F12 in the hotkey field and then enable the associated 
"Windows Key"
checkbox.
 
All settings are saved in the file 
VirtualRecorder.ini
located in the same folder as the program's main executable.
 
 
Command line parameters:
 
Last but not least, there are a few command line parameters for scheduling recordings with the Windows Task Scheduler or other scheduling software.  Use -r to have the program start recording automatically, -t to set a duration for the recording, and -x to have the program close automatically when it is finished recording.  The format for the duration should be hh:mm:ss (hours:minutes:seconds).
 
For example, to have the program record for 1 hour and then close, use the following command:
 
VirtualRecorder.exe -r -t 01:00:00 -x
 
Record for 1 hour and 30 seconds:
 
VirtualRecorder.exe -r -t 01:00:30 -x
 
Record for 1 hour and 1 minute:
 
VirtualRecorder.exe -r -t 01:01:00 -x
 
Record for half an hour, but leave the program running:
 
VirtualRecorder.exe -r -t 00:30:00
 
Start recording and continue recording until manually stopped:
 
VirtualRecorder.exe -r
 
Note that when recording using command line parameters, the shown/hidden state of the main window will depend on the settings in the 
"Options"
dialog.
 
 
There is both an installer and a portable package for Virtual Recorder, but due to requirements for making it portable, the two executables are not the same.  In other words, do not attempt to use the installed executable in portable mode.  It will not work correctly.  Also, since the portable version requires administrator privileges to register the virtual audio capture device, if UAC is enabled you will always be prompted when the program starts.  This is slightly annoying, but it is the best I can do for now.
 
 
Announcements about updates to Virtual Recorder and my other projects will be posted on the Tech Talk mailing list.
 
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Re: Capturing computer audio

wayne <greenwood33@...>
 


For all of you that want to download virtual recorder this sendspace link will work for you. This is the installed version of virtual recorder.
 
Wayne
 
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 1:40 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Capturing computer audio

Well, the link in the page is not working.


Chris Mullins 於 17/10/2019 17:10 寫道:

Hi Arlene

Yes, it’s free, have a llok at the following site:

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: 17 October 2019 05:14
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Capturing computer audio

 

Is virtual recorder free? Or do you have to pay for it?

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Chris Mullins
Sent: October 16, 2019 1:58 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Capturing computer audio

 

Hi

If I do not want NVDA to spoil a recording I switch it to silent mode.  I record a lot from Youtube and the fact that there are shortcut keys to control Virtual Recorder, means I can put focus on the start button of YouTube, use NVDA+s to put NVDA in silent mode, press Windows+Control+g to start the recorder, then press enter to start Youtube playing.  When I’ve recorded what I want, I press Windows+Control+h to stop recording, NVDA+s twice to restore NVDA speech, then do whatever I need to do with Youtube.  Virtual Recorder also has a settting to silence system sounds, so yu don’t get the chime of arriving emails halfway through your recording.  Works a treat.

 

Cheers

Chris       

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: 15 October 2019 21:48
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Capturing computer audio

 

If you use Audacity or other programs to capture Audio. Wil any screen reader be heard in the back ground?

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Luke Davis
Sent: October 15, 2019 4:49 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Capturing computer audio

 

Audacity is good at this. They have a tutorial page that instructs on how to do

it:

 

https://manual.audacityteam.org/man/tutorial_recording_computer_playback_on_windows.html

 

Luke

 

On Mon, 14 Oct 2019, Sile via Groups.Io wrote:

 

> What is the easiest way to capture the audio from NVDA - I have to send

> feedback on a webpage to Google and they asked me to navigate and send them

> the audio output.

 

 

 

 


Re: Capturing computer audio

Sarah k Alawami
 

No, it is not free. And that blind help site shoudl seriously be taken down. It does cost, I can't remember how much as i don't use the app. We cannot have everytrhign for free. Everything including free has a price.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.

to subscribe to the feed click here

Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc.

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on youtube, twitch and mixer. Thanks Restream staff.

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On 17 Oct 2019, at 2:16, Chris Mullins wrote:

Hi Arlene

I’ll have another go.  Yes it’s free, have a look at this site:

 

https://blindhelp.net/software/virtual-recorder-13

 

Cheers

Chris

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: 17 October 2019 05:14
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Capturing computer audio

 

Is virtual recorder free? Or do you have to pay for it?

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Chris Mullins
Sent: October 16, 2019 1:58 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Capturing computer audio

 

Hi

If I do not want NVDA to spoil a recording I switch it to silent mode.  I record a lot from Youtube and the fact that there are shortcut keys to control Virtual Recorder, means I can put focus on the start button of YouTube, use NVDA+s to put NVDA in silent mode, press Windows+Control+g to start the recorder, then press enter to start Youtube playing.  When I’ve recorded what I want, I press Windows+Control+h to stop recording, NVDA+s twice to restore NVDA speech, then do whatever I need to do with Youtube.  Virtual Recorder also has a settting to silence system sounds, so yu don’t get the chime of arriving emails halfway through your recording.  Works a treat.

 

Cheers

Chris       

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: 15 October 2019 21:48
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Capturing computer audio

 

If you use Audacity or other programs to capture Audio. Wil any screen reader be heard in the back ground?

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Luke Davis
Sent: October 15, 2019 4:49 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Capturing computer audio

 

Audacity is good at this. They have a tutorial page that instructs on how to do

it:

 

https://manual.audacityteam.org/man/tutorial_recording_computer_playback_on_windows.html

 

Luke

 

On Mon, 14 Oct 2019, Sile via Groups.Io wrote:

 

> What is the easiest way to capture the audio from NVDA - I have to send

> feedback on a webpage to Google and they asked me to navigate and send them

> the audio output.

 

 

 

 

Re: Station playlist

 

Hi,

If I get to know that area (and learn how to use it), perhaps. Specifically, I need to know procedures, what’s not working, and how should the add-on work there.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 7:28 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Station playlist

 

By chance is the addon set to work in the criteria area for SPL creator.

 

******If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning start?***     

 

Station playlist

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

By chance is the addon set to work in the criteria area for SPL creator.

 

******If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning start?***     

 

Re: BrailleNote Touch Plus Not Connecting Via Bluetooth

Jackie
 

I don't think it's NVDA that's the problem. I think it's Windows 10.
You might try "forgetting" & then repairing the BNT to see if it
helps, Abbie.

On 10/17/19, Abbie Taylor <abbietaylor945@...> wrote:
I just upgraded to Windows 10 Version 1903, and my BrailleNote Touch Plus
won't connect as a display with NVDA via Bluetooth. Since it does connect
via USB, this isn't a problem. But I thought I'd pass it along so that
perhaps this can be fixed in a future release of NVDA.





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BrailleNote Touch Plus Not Connecting Via Bluetooth

Abbie Taylor <abbietaylor945@...>
 

I just upgraded to Windows 10 Version 1903, and my BrailleNote Touch Plus won’t connect as a display with NVDA via Bluetooth. Since it does connect via USB, this isn’t a problem. But I thought I’d pass it along so that perhaps this can be fixed in a future release of NVDA.

 

 

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Re: Capturing computer audio

Mr. Wong Chi Wai, William <cwwong.pro@...>
 

Well, the link in the page is not working.


Chris Mullins 於 17/10/2019 17:10 寫道:

Hi Arlene

Yes, it’s free, have a llok at the following site:

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: 17 October 2019 05:14
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Capturing computer audio

 

Is virtual recorder free? Or do you have to pay for it?

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Chris Mullins
Sent: October 16, 2019 1:58 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Capturing computer audio

 

Hi

If I do not want NVDA to spoil a recording I switch it to silent mode.  I record a lot from Youtube and the fact that there are shortcut keys to control Virtual Recorder, means I can put focus on the start button of YouTube, use NVDA+s to put NVDA in silent mode, press Windows+Control+g to start the recorder, then press enter to start Youtube playing.  When I’ve recorded what I want, I press Windows+Control+h to stop recording, NVDA+s twice to restore NVDA speech, then do whatever I need to do with Youtube.  Virtual Recorder also has a settting to silence system sounds, so yu don’t get the chime of arriving emails halfway through your recording.  Works a treat.

 

Cheers

Chris       

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: 15 October 2019 21:48
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Capturing computer audio

 

If you use Audacity or other programs to capture Audio. Wil any screen reader be heard in the back ground?

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Luke Davis
Sent: October 15, 2019 4:49 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Capturing computer audio

 

Audacity is good at this. They have a tutorial page that instructs on how to do

it:

 

https://manual.audacityteam.org/man/tutorial_recording_computer_playback_on_windows.html

 

Luke

 

On Mon, 14 Oct 2019, Sile via Groups.Io wrote:

 

> What is the easiest way to capture the audio from NVDA - I have to send

> feedback on a webpage to Google and they asked me to navigate and send them

> the audio output.