Helga,

          That second sentence should have read, "keep your hotmail account and your gmail account and have them in a client . . ."  It's getting late.

Brian
-- 

Helga,

          This little caper involves access via WLM 2012 only to those e-mail accounts ending in @outlook.com, @live.com, @msn.com, and @hotmail.com.

          If you wish to keep your hotmail account and have it in a client that can also access e-mail from any of the above noted e-mail addresses then you will have to transition to one of the e-mail clients noted on this support.microsoft.com webpage.

Brian
-- 

Ron,

          "Outlook.com" and "outlook.com" both get used, regularly, in Microsoft materials.  That includes on the very official Microsoft support page announcing the change to which I supplied the link (and just did again).

Brian
-- 

Hi Brian,

There are changes, but this address:

Outlo‍ok‍.‍com 

is bogus.

It's not a spam/phishing email, take a look at this https://blogs.office.com/2016/05/05/using-windows-live-mail-2012-with-outlook-com-time-to-update-your-email-application/

This is real, and...the change will happen, no matter what. To be honest I felt kind of surprised by this, having used WLM for so long.

--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"

Ron Canazzi wrote:  "Well, then Microsoft phone support is stupid."

This is not news, nor is that observation in any way limited to Microsoft.

Brian
-- 

Rosemarie Chavarria wrote: "Like the old saying goes, if it ain't broke, don't fix it."

Microsoft and Google both seem to fail to appreciate the timeless nature of this adage.  They also tend to break the KISS principle of design on a very frequent basis, too.

Brian
-- 

Supanut,

         Well, I've never found two-step verification all that necessary for my e-mail.  A strong password is more than enough.  I have had the "allow less secure clients" (or whatever the phrasing is on Gmail) setting selected for years now without ill effect.  It's one of the few e-mail server setups that defaults two-step verification on.

Brian
-- 

Well, then Microsoft phone support is stupid.

Ron,

          It is not false.  It is posted on Microsoft's own website and is being heavily discussed in the tech press.

          It doesn't get more official than an announcement on support.office.com.

          I also think this is going to backfire on Microsoft and they'll lose a lot of e-mail users.
Brian
-- 
Never underestimate the difficulty of changing false beliefs by facts. 
   ~ Henry Rosovsky

--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"

Ron,

        Please stop saying this is a scam.  It has been officially announced on Microsoft's own support sites.  See this one on support.office.com

Brian
-- 

Ron,

          It is not false.  It is posted on Microsoft's own website and is being heavily discussed in the tech press.

          It doesn't get more official than an announcement on support.office.com.

          I also think this is going to backfire on Microsoft and they'll lose a lot of e-mail users.

Brian
-- 

Hi Group,

As concerns the Outlook.com issue: I just talked to the disability line at Microsoft (1-800-936-5900) and this Outlook business is definitely a scam.  There is already a case number 133-830-4258 open and being investigated.

If you get any further e-mails or web page references, forward such e-mails to the 2 following addresses:

abuse@...

abuse@...

Hopefully, this will resolve the controversy!

--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"

It's not a spam/phishing email, take a look at this https://blogs.office.com/2016/05/05/using-windows-live-mail-2012-with-outlook-com-time-to-update-your-email-application/

This is real, and...the change will happen, no matter what. To be honest I felt kind of surprised by this, having used WLM for so long.

And, for those who are still believing that the email I received is a phishing email, take a look at this, https://blogs.office.com/2016/05/05/using-windows-live-mail-2012-with-outlook-com-time-to-update-your-email-application/

This is from official Microsoft Office blog, so it's obvious that this is a serious manor and that it is going to happen for real.

Edit: Even Google's Gmail no longer work with WLM2012 unless if you turn off a security setting, which is not a wise thing to do.

Rosemarie,

        We're in agreement, but on flip sides of the same coin.  I don't think that there is any reason to change the "outlook.com infrastructure" except to force users to use another of Microsoft's proprietary creations.  It's not WLM that needs updating it's that outlook.com doesn't need the "improvements" they're doing.

        Microsoft really doesn't learn from its past mistakes along these lines.  It's one thing to roll things out, and Windows 10 is one of those things, with policies firmly in place that users will either love or hate, but can make a decision knowing what those are.  To take something like e-mail, which has been about as stable as it can get as far as infrastructure goes, and muck with it, really doesn't make sense.  I suspect they'll lose a lot of their e-mail users over this, as people tend to get a lot more attached to their e-mail client programs than they are to their actual e-mail providers.
 
Brian
--