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Re: Cannot read PDF documents with NVDA

Brian's Mail list account BY <bglists@...>
 

I yesterday went on the UK site london Elects to find out detailed results from the recent election. The main mayoral election pdf worked fin with nice easy to use tables etc. The london wide election results were in an untagged pdf, and it looked blank in adobe and when text was removed it was all junbled together with hardly any spaces and in the wrong order.
The local constituancy pdf, was just a picture of a bit of paper with no text in it at all which adobe reader said was also malformed.

Obviously those who make pdfs just do not understand what they are doing.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Vogel" <britechguy@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2016 4:17 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Cannot read PDF documents with NVDA


I posted the step by step directions yesterday as to what needs to be done to get Adobe Reader XI or Adobe Reader DC set up to run with screen readers.
Brian
--
Never underestimate the difficulty of changing false beliefs by facts.
~ Henry Rosovsky


Re: problem with thunderbird

Jeffrey Shockley
 

Hi,
I was just reading this thread.
What you are seeing is not Thunderbird’s fault, it’s a change in the way gMail processes messages, I’m thinking. I’m seeing this with other clients as well. So, what is happening is your name isn’t showing up in the “from” field when you are receiving your messages, therefore, it is causing your filters and such to break possibly.
 However, when others receive your E-Mails, your name will show up to them. Actually, if you wanted to, if you checked the message source and all that, you would more than likely see your name in the “from” field even on messages you do receive.
I hope this helps,
Jeffrey
On May 9, 2016, at 8:58 PM, Robert Mendoza <lowvisiontek@...> wrote:

Hello, Rosemary!

Yes, you are correct. But, not sure if this will be the same with the SeaMonkey, and haven't try that email before. But, more or less Thunderbird is likely a more user-friendly indeed and at the same time it was open source apps as well.

Robert Mendoza
On 5/10/2016 8:51 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hello, Robert,

That's unfortunate. Thunderbird used to be pretty good. I wonder if
seamonkey would work.

Rosemarie

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Robert
Mendoza
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2016 5:49 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] problem with thunderbird

Hello, Ron and Rosemary,

This was happened from the time Thunderbird released the newer version.


Robert Mendoza
On 5/10/2016 8:43 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:


	Hi, Ron,
	
	That's exactly what happens to me too. That's why I'm using outlook
now.
	
	Rosemarie
	
	
	
	-----Original Message-----
	From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ron
	Canazzi
	Sent: Monday, May 09, 2016 5:40 PM
	To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> 
	Subject: Re: [nvda] problem with thunderbird
	
	Hi Rosemarie,
	
	
	
	
	Ever since the sub group was created for this list, when I send a
message to
	this list, in my filtered inbox, what I see for my name is:
	"main.Techtalk@groups.io <mailto:main.Techtalk@groups.io>
<mailto:main.Techtalk@groups.io> <mailto:main.Techtalk@groups.io>  .  Carlos
says my
	name is listed to others, but for some reason, since this change to
the
	group configuration, I don't see my own name on my messages to this
list.
	
	
	
	
	
	On 5/9/2016 8:00 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
	
	
		Hi, Norman, 
		
		
		The other problem I'm having is that when I get a message
back
	that's from me, I don't hear my name read out. There's definitely
something
	wrong with thunderbird. 
		
		
		Rosemarie 
		
		
		
		
		On 5/9/2016 4:41 PM, Norman wrote: 
		
	
	
			Hi. 
			
			Let me make sure i have the steps down correctly. 
			
			You read a message and wish to reply to it so you
hit
	control r. 
			
			You start typing and it seems like your screen
reader is
	trying to navigate a webpage, for example by heading if you press h.

			
			If this is the case Just hit shift tab to go to the
subject
	and then tab again to go back to the message body. 
			
			You should be able to type now. 
			
			I have had this happen to me as well and i would
guess that
	the screen reader is not correctly recognizing the window type. 
			
			For me it is not consistent and i can't reproduce at
will
	but if someone can maybe a bug report would be helpful? 
			
			
			
			On 5/9/2016 7:25 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote: 
			
	
	
				Hi, everyone, 
				
				Recently when I tried to reply to messages
in
	thunderbird, I'd get a message like "no previous heading" or
something like
	that. I don't know why that happens because I hit control R which is
the
	reply command. Any help with this problem would be greatly
appreciated. I'm
	using outlook to write this message but I actually like thunderbird
much
	better. 
				
				Thanks for your help in advance. 
				
				Rosemarie 
				
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	--
	They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
	They ask: "How Happy are You?"
	I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
	
	
	
	
	










Re: DictationBridge demo up

Pranav Lal
 

Hi Kevin and all,

There are no keystrokes. Launch either Dragon or Microsoft Windows
speech-recognition and start dictating. The add-on will echo back text using
NVDA.

Pranav

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin
Cussick via Groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2016 3:34 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] DictationBridge demo up

Hi, I have installed the addon, but can't find any keystrokes to get
started help please thanks.

On 09/05/2016 17:58, Pranav Lal wrote:
Dear all,

A demonstration version of DictationBridge in the form of a NVDA
add-on is up at
http://dictationbridge.com/2016/05/09/dictationbridge-prototype-now-av
ailable/

Pranav




Re: DictationBridge demo up

Pranav Lal
 

Thanks Ollie. Do give the demo a try.

Everyone, the crowd funding campaign is up at
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/dictationbridge/
so please contribute and spread the word.
Pranav

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mallard
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2016 10:43 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] DictationBridge demo up

Ciao Pranav,


Thanks millions.

Ollie





Il 09/05/2016 18:58, Pranav Lal ha scritto:
Dear all,

A demonstration version of DictationBridge in the form of a NVDA
add-on is up at
http://dictationbridge.com/2016/05/09/dictationbridge-prototype-now-av
ailable/

Pranav





Re: problem with thunderbird

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Group,


I only see the Thunderbird issue on the Tech Talk list--not on this list.  I am sorry again for the confusion.



On 5/9/2016 8:51 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hello, Robert,

That's unfortunate. Thunderbird used to be pretty good. I wonder if
seamonkey would work.

Rosemarie

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Robert
Mendoza
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2016 5:49 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] problem with thunderbird

Hello, Ron and Rosemary,

This was happened from the time Thunderbird released the newer version.


Robert Mendoza
On 5/10/2016 8:43 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:


	Hi, Ron,

	That's exactly what happens to me too. That's why I'm using outlook
now.

	Rosemarie



	-----Original Message-----
	From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ron
	Canazzi
	Sent: Monday, May 09, 2016 5:40 PM
	To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
	Subject: Re: [nvda] problem with thunderbird

	Hi Rosemarie,




	Ever since the sub group was created for this list, when I send a
message to
	this list, in my filtered inbox, what I see for my name is:
	"main.Techtalk@groups.io <mailto:main.Techtalk@groups.io>
<mailto:main.Techtalk@groups.io> <mailto:main.Techtalk@groups.io>  .  Carlos
says my
	name is listed to others, but for some reason, since this change to
the
	group configuration, I don't see my own name on my messages to this
list.





	On 5/9/2016 8:00 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:


		Hi, Norman,


		The other problem I'm having is that when I get a message
back
	that's from me, I don't hear my name read out. There's definitely
something
	wrong with thunderbird.


		Rosemarie




		On 5/9/2016 4:41 PM, Norman wrote:



			Hi.

			Let me make sure i have the steps down correctly.

			You read a message and wish to reply to it so you
hit
	control r.

			You start typing and it seems like your screen
reader is
	trying to navigate a webpage, for example by heading if you press h.


			If this is the case Just hit shift tab to go to the
subject
	and then tab again to go back to the message body.

			You should be able to type now.

			I have had this happen to me as well and i would
guess that
	the screen reader is not correctly recognizing the window type.

			For me it is not consistent and i can't reproduce at
will
	but if someone can maybe a bug report would be helpful?



			On 5/9/2016 7:25 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:



				Hi, everyone,

				Recently when I tried to reply to messages
in
	thunderbird, I'd get a message like "no previous heading" or
something like
	that. I don't know why that happens because I hit control R which is
the
	reply command. Any help with this problem would be greatly
appreciated. I'm
	using outlook to write this message but I actually like thunderbird
much
	better.

				Thanks for your help in advance.

				Rosemarie








	--
	They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
	They ask: "How Happy are You?"
	I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"














--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: problem with thunderbird

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Group,


I sent the response to the wrong list.  Sorry for the confusion.



On 5/9/2016 8:40 PM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Rosemarie,


Ever since the sub group was created for this list, when I send a message to this list, in my filtered inbox, what I see for my name is: "main.Techtalk@groups.io.  Carlos says my name is listed to others, but for some reason, since this change to the group configuration, I don't see my own name on my messages to this list.



On 5/9/2016 8:00 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, Norman,


The other problem I'm having is that when I get a message back that's from me, I don't hear my name read out. There's definitely something wrong with thunderbird.


Rosemarie




On 5/9/2016 4:41 PM, Norman wrote:

Hi.

Let me make sure i have the steps down correctly.

You read a message and wish to reply to it so you hit control r.

You start typing and it seems like your screen reader is trying to navigate a webpage, for example by heading if you press h.

If this is the case Just hit shift tab to go to the subject and then tab again to go back to the message body.

You should be able to type now.

I have had this happen to me as well and i would guess that the screen reader is not correctly recognizing the window type.

For me it is not consistent and i can't reproduce at will but if someone can maybe a bug report would be helpful?



On 5/9/2016 7:25 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Hi, everyone,

Recently when I tried to reply to messages in thunderbird, I'd get a message like "no previous heading" or something like that. I don't know why that happens because I hit control R which is the reply command. Any help with this problem would be greatly appreciated. I'm using outlook to write this message but I actually like thunderbird much better.

Thanks for your help in advance.

Rosemarie







--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: problem with thunderbird

Robert Mendoza
 

Hello, Rosemary!

Yes, you are correct. But, not sure if this will be the same with the SeaMonkey, and haven't try that email before. But, more or less Thunderbird is likely a more user-friendly indeed and at the same time it was open source apps as well.

Robert Mendoza
On 5/10/2016 8:51 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Hello, Robert,

That's unfortunate. Thunderbird used to be pretty good. I wonder if
seamonkey would work.

Rosemarie

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Robert
Mendoza
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2016 5:49 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] problem with thunderbird

Hello, Ron and Rosemary,

This was happened from the time Thunderbird released the newer version.


Robert Mendoza
On 5/10/2016 8:43 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:


	Hi, Ron,
	
	That's exactly what happens to me too. That's why I'm using outlook
now.
	
	Rosemarie
	
	
	
	-----Original Message-----
	From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ron
	Canazzi
	Sent: Monday, May 09, 2016 5:40 PM
	To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> 
	Subject: Re: [nvda] problem with thunderbird
	
	Hi Rosemarie,
	
	
	
	
	Ever since the sub group was created for this list, when I send a
message to
	this list, in my filtered inbox, what I see for my name is:
	"main.Techtalk@groups.io <mailto:main.Techtalk@groups.io>
<mailto:main.Techtalk@groups.io> <mailto:main.Techtalk@groups.io>  .  Carlos
says my
	name is listed to others, but for some reason, since this change to
the
	group configuration, I don't see my own name on my messages to this
list.
	
	
	
	
	
	On 5/9/2016 8:00 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
	
	
		Hi, Norman, 
		
		
		The other problem I'm having is that when I get a message
back
	that's from me, I don't hear my name read out. There's definitely
something
	wrong with thunderbird. 
		
		
		Rosemarie 
		
		
		
		
		On 5/9/2016 4:41 PM, Norman wrote: 
		
	
	
			Hi. 
			
			Let me make sure i have the steps down correctly. 
			
			You read a message and wish to reply to it so you
hit
	control r. 
			
			You start typing and it seems like your screen
reader is
	trying to navigate a webpage, for example by heading if you press h.

			
			If this is the case Just hit shift tab to go to the
subject
	and then tab again to go back to the message body. 
			
			You should be able to type now. 
			
			I have had this happen to me as well and i would
guess that
	the screen reader is not correctly recognizing the window type. 
			
			For me it is not consistent and i can't reproduce at
will
	but if someone can maybe a bug report would be helpful? 
			
			
			
			On 5/9/2016 7:25 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote: 
			
	
	
				Hi, everyone, 
				
				Recently when I tried to reply to messages
in
	thunderbird, I'd get a message like "no previous heading" or
something like
	that. I don't know why that happens because I hit control R which is
the
	reply command. Any help with this problem would be greatly
appreciated. I'm
	using outlook to write this message but I actually like thunderbird
much
	better. 
				
				Thanks for your help in advance. 
				
				Rosemarie 
				
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	--
	They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
	They ask: "How Happy are You?"
	I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
	
	
	
	
	









Re: problem with thunderbird

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hello, Robert,

That's unfortunate. Thunderbird used to be pretty good. I wonder if
seamonkey would work.

Rosemarie

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Robert
Mendoza
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2016 5:49 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] problem with thunderbird

Hello, Ron and Rosemary,

This was happened from the time Thunderbird released the newer version.


Robert Mendoza
On 5/10/2016 8:43 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:


Hi, Ron,

That's exactly what happens to me too. That's why I'm using outlook
now.

Rosemarie



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ron
Canazzi
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2016 5:40 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] problem with thunderbird

Hi Rosemarie,




Ever since the sub group was created for this list, when I send a
message to
this list, in my filtered inbox, what I see for my name is:
"main.Techtalk@groups.io <mailto:main.Techtalk@groups.io>
<mailto:main.Techtalk@groups.io> <mailto:main.Techtalk@groups.io> . Carlos
says my
name is listed to others, but for some reason, since this change to
the
group configuration, I don't see my own name on my messages to this
list.





On 5/9/2016 8:00 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:


Hi, Norman,


The other problem I'm having is that when I get a message
back
that's from me, I don't hear my name read out. There's definitely
something
wrong with thunderbird.


Rosemarie




On 5/9/2016 4:41 PM, Norman wrote:



Hi.

Let me make sure i have the steps down correctly.

You read a message and wish to reply to it so you
hit
control r.

You start typing and it seems like your screen
reader is
trying to navigate a webpage, for example by heading if you press h.


If this is the case Just hit shift tab to go to the
subject
and then tab again to go back to the message body.

You should be able to type now.

I have had this happen to me as well and i would
guess that
the screen reader is not correctly recognizing the window type.

For me it is not consistent and i can't reproduce at
will
but if someone can maybe a bug report would be helpful?



On 5/9/2016 7:25 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:



Hi, everyone,

Recently when I tried to reply to messages
in
thunderbird, I'd get a message like "no previous heading" or
something like
that. I don't know why that happens because I hit control R which is
the
reply command. Any help with this problem would be greatly
appreciated. I'm
using outlook to write this message but I actually like thunderbird
much
better.

Thanks for your help in advance.

Rosemarie








--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: problem with thunderbird

Robert Mendoza
 

Hello, Ron and Rosemary,

This was happened from the time Thunderbird released the newer version.

Robert Mendoza
On 5/10/2016 8:43 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Hi, Ron,

That's exactly what happens to me too. That's why I'm using outlook now.

Rosemarie



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ron
Canazzi
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2016 5:40 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] problem with thunderbird

Hi Rosemarie,




Ever since the sub group was created for this list, when I send a message to
this list, in my filtered inbox, what I see for my name is:
"main.Techtalk@groups.io <mailto:main.Techtalk@groups.io> .  Carlos says my
name is listed to others, but for some reason, since this change to the
group configuration, I don't see my own name on my messages to this list.





On 5/9/2016 8:00 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:


	Hi, Norman, 
	
	
	The other problem I'm having is that when I get a message back
that's from me, I don't hear my name read out. There's definitely something
wrong with thunderbird. 
	
	
	Rosemarie 
	
	
	
	
	On 5/9/2016 4:41 PM, Norman wrote: 
	


		Hi. 
		
		Let me make sure i have the steps down correctly. 
		
		You read a message and wish to reply to it so you hit
control r. 
		
		You start typing and it seems like your screen reader is
trying to navigate a webpage, for example by heading if you press h. 
		
		If this is the case Just hit shift tab to go to the subject
and then tab again to go back to the message body. 
		
		You should be able to type now. 
		
		I have had this happen to me as well and i would guess that
the screen reader is not correctly recognizing the window type. 
		
		For me it is not consistent and i can't reproduce at will
but if someone can maybe a bug report would be helpful? 
		
		
		
		On 5/9/2016 7:25 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote: 
		


			Hi, everyone, 
			
			Recently when I tried to reply to messages in
thunderbird, I'd get a message like "no previous heading" or something like
that. I don't know why that happens because I hit control R which is the
reply command. Any help with this problem would be greatly appreciated. I'm
using outlook to write this message but I actually like thunderbird much
better. 
			
			Thanks for your help in advance. 
			
			Rosemarie 
			
			






--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"







Re: problem with thunderbird

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Ron,

That's exactly what happens to me too. That's why I'm using outlook now.

Rosemarie

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ron
Canazzi
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2016 5:40 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] problem with thunderbird

Hi Rosemarie,




Ever since the sub group was created for this list, when I send a message to
this list, in my filtered inbox, what I see for my name is:
"main.Techtalk@groups.io <mailto:main.Techtalk@groups.io> . Carlos says my
name is listed to others, but for some reason, since this change to the
group configuration, I don't see my own name on my messages to this list.





On 5/9/2016 8:00 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:


Hi, Norman,


The other problem I'm having is that when I get a message back
that's from me, I don't hear my name read out. There's definitely something
wrong with thunderbird.


Rosemarie




On 5/9/2016 4:41 PM, Norman wrote:



Hi.

Let me make sure i have the steps down correctly.

You read a message and wish to reply to it so you hit
control r.

You start typing and it seems like your screen reader is
trying to navigate a webpage, for example by heading if you press h.

If this is the case Just hit shift tab to go to the subject
and then tab again to go back to the message body.

You should be able to type now.

I have had this happen to me as well and i would guess that
the screen reader is not correctly recognizing the window type.

For me it is not consistent and i can't reproduce at will
but if someone can maybe a bug report would be helpful?



On 5/9/2016 7:25 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:



Hi, everyone,

Recently when I tried to reply to messages in
thunderbird, I'd get a message like "no previous heading" or something like
that. I don't know why that happens because I hit control R which is the
reply command. Any help with this problem would be greatly appreciated. I'm
using outlook to write this message but I actually like thunderbird much
better.

Thanks for your help in advance.

Rosemarie








--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: problem with thunderbird

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Rosemarie,


Ever since the sub group was created for this list, when I send a message to this list, in my filtered inbox, what I see for my name is: "main.Techtalk@groups.io.  Carlos says my name is listed to others, but for some reason, since this change to the group configuration, I don't see my own name on my messages to this list.



On 5/9/2016 8:00 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, Norman,


The other problem I'm having is that when I get a message back that's from me, I don't hear my name read out. There's definitely something wrong with thunderbird.


Rosemarie




On 5/9/2016 4:41 PM, Norman wrote:

Hi.

Let me make sure i have the steps down correctly.

You read a message and wish to reply to it so you hit control r.

You start typing and it seems like your screen reader is trying to navigate a webpage, for example by heading if you press h.

If this is the case Just hit shift tab to go to the subject and then tab again to go back to the message body.

You should be able to type now.

I have had this happen to me as well and i would guess that the screen reader is not correctly recognizing the window type.

For me it is not consistent and i can't reproduce at will but if someone can maybe a bug report would be helpful?



On 5/9/2016 7:25 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Hi, everyone,

Recently when I tried to reply to messages in thunderbird, I'd get a message like "no previous heading" or something like that. I don't know why that happens because I hit control R which is the reply command. Any help with this problem would be greatly appreciated. I'm using outlook to write this message but I actually like thunderbird much better.

Thanks for your help in advance.

Rosemarie






--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: problem with thunderbird

Robert Mendoza
 

Hi, Rosemary!

I would assume that this happened every time you sent a reply and the new inbox does not reads your name. Am I correct? But, you can check it or try to press the tab till you land in the first column of the senders name then, nvda will reads the name where it came from.

Robert Mendoza
On 5/10/2016 8:00 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Hi, Norman,


The other problem I'm having is that when I get a message back that's from me, I don't hear my name read out. There's definitely something wrong with thunderbird.


Rosemarie




On 5/9/2016 4:41 PM, Norman wrote:

Hi.

Let me make sure i have the steps down correctly.

You read a message and wish to reply to it so you hit control r.

You start typing and it seems like your screen reader is trying to navigate a webpage, for example by heading if you press h.

If this is the case Just hit shift tab to go to the subject and then tab again to go back to the message body.

You should be able to type now.

I have had this happen to me as well and i would guess that the screen reader is not correctly recognizing the window type.

For me it is not consistent and i can't reproduce at will but if someone can maybe a bug report would be helpful?



On 5/9/2016 7:25 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Hi, everyone,

 

Recently when I tried to reply to messages in thunderbird, I'd get a message like "no previous heading" or something like that. I don't know why that happens because I hit control R which is the reply command. Any help with this problem would be greatly appreciated. I'm using outlook to write this message but I actually like thunderbird much better.

 

Thanks for your help in advance.

 

Rosemarie

 

 





Re: problem with thunderbird

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Norman,


The other problem I'm having is that when I get a message back that's from me, I don't hear my name read out. There's definitely something wrong with thunderbird.


Rosemarie




On 5/9/2016 4:41 PM, Norman wrote:

Hi.

Let me make sure i have the steps down correctly.

You read a message and wish to reply to it so you hit control r.

You start typing and it seems like your screen reader is trying to navigate a webpage, for example by heading if you press h.

If this is the case Just hit shift tab to go to the subject and then tab again to go back to the message body.

You should be able to type now.

I have had this happen to me as well and i would guess that the screen reader is not correctly recognizing the window type.

For me it is not consistent and i can't reproduce at will but if someone can maybe a bug report would be helpful?



On 5/9/2016 7:25 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Hi, everyone,

 

Recently when I tried to reply to messages in thunderbird, I'd get a message like "no previous heading" or something like that. I don't know why that happens because I hit control R which is the reply command. Any help with this problem would be greatly appreciated. I'm using outlook to write this message but I actually like thunderbird much better.

 

Thanks for your help in advance.

 

Rosemarie

 

 




Re: problem with thunderbird

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Norman,

You got the steps correct. I'll give thunderbird another try and see what
happens. Thanks for your reply.

Rosemarie

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Norman
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2016 4:41 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] problem with thunderbird

Hi.

Let me make sure i have the steps down correctly.

You read a message and wish to reply to it so you hit control r.

You start typing and it seems like your screen reader is trying to navigate
a webpage, for example by heading if you press h.

If this is the case Just hit shift tab to go to the subject and then tab
again to go back to the message body.

You should be able to type now.

I have had this happen to me as well and i would guess that the screen
reader is not correctly recognizing the window type.

For me it is not consistent and i can't reproduce at will but if someone can
maybe a bug report would be helpful?





On 5/9/2016 7:25 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:


Hi, everyone,



Recently when I tried to reply to messages in thunderbird, I'd get a
message like "no previous heading" or something like that. I don't know why
that happens because I hit control R which is the reply command. Any help
with this problem would be greatly appreciated. I'm using outlook to write
this message but I actually like thunderbird much better.



Thanks for your help in advance.



Rosemarie


Re: problem with thunderbird

norman <lists@...>
 

Hi.

Let me make sure i have the steps down correctly.

You read a message and wish to reply to it so you hit control r.

You start typing and it seems like your screen reader is trying to navigate a webpage, for example by heading if you press h.

If this is the case Just hit shift tab to go to the subject and then tab again to go back to the message body.

You should be able to type now.

I have had this happen to me as well and i would guess that the screen reader is not correctly recognizing the window type.

For me it is not consistent and i can't reproduce at will but if someone can maybe a bug report would be helpful?



On 5/9/2016 7:25 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Hi, everyone,

 

Recently when I tried to reply to messages in thunderbird, I'd get a message like "no previous heading" or something like that. I don't know why that happens because I hit control R which is the reply command. Any help with this problem would be greatly appreciated. I'm using outlook to write this message but I actually like thunderbird much better.

 

Thanks for your help in advance.

 

Rosemarie

 

 



problem with thunderbird

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, everyone,

 

Recently when I tried to reply to messages in thunderbird, I'd get a message like "no previous heading" or something like that. I don't know why that happens because I hit control R which is the reply command. Any help with this problem would be greatly appreciated. I'm using outlook to write this message but I actually like thunderbird much better.

 

Thanks for your help in advance.

 

Rosemarie

 

 


Re: setting up the people app on windows 10

 

Well to be honest I agree, my view is that especially now that governments want backdoors for various things into your devices and digital accounts they can, but then security of all things are their issues and yeah they get hacked to.
Some of us may rebel but even I am going to have to bite the bullet one day, at least for the units I use and for the rest I am unsure, for my personal unit I may try to hack my way into something so that things work in a round about way.
But really who knows how long all the little patches will work just to make 10 as close to what I am using now.

On 10/05/2016 3:15 a.m., Brian Vogel wrote:
Mr. Gaff, most average people don't worry about this, period. The security in place in any commercial data center is far more robust than what's on your own local machine and hackers target those, too.

What is anyone going to do with your, or my, or anyone's contacts list that requires any real worry? If people want random e-mail addresses these are so readily available by so many means that worrying about their acquisition is a complete waste of time. You simply can't stop it.

The world has moved away from POP because IMAP and synchronization is incredibly important in today's mobile world. That trend isn't going to reverse.

Brian
--
Never underestimate the difficulty of changing false beliefs by facts.
~ Henry Rosovsky


Re: setting up the people app on windows 10

 

Its not, but to be honest it doesn't matter anymore now days, just about everything you interact with will have some of your info stored online.
So if some of it is, then it may all as well be stored, if some of it is hacked from a system, well it may as well be all of it.
Its the age we live in.
Also most don't go round with 1 device alone, syncing is good for example if you have several devices and lets face it a fair number of us do.
The words security and privacy are changing, they were created pre net and don't mean what they used to mean.
Till real world/net laws equalise they will continue to change and even when they do they still may.
Its a different way of handling things.

On 10/05/2016 3:00 a.m., Brian's Mail list account wrote:
I never want my email address book stored online by any email system, as
this is far too hackable as Yahoo and BT found out.
Remember a person has all day every day to hack into your online
address book but if its on your own computer and its off part of the
time nobody can get at it. as I do not use any other devices that are
not pcs, I can easily simply swap the files between them on the local
network.
Everyone goes on about how convinient this synchronising is, but is it
really worth the worry to the average person?
Brian

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Please address personal email to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Vogel" <britechguy@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2016 3:41 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] setting up the people app on windows 10


One big caution on the "automatic import" of contacts for the People app
is this only works if your e-mail client was set up (or capable of)
using the contacts associated with your e-mail account and syncing them.

There are a number of e-mail clients that don't work that way, and when
I was last setting up Thunderbird it didn't work that way. Just a few
days ago I had to tweak a client's Thunderbird setup because the e-mail
account she had been using through an ISP no longer exists, and she was
terrified that all her contacts were going to go when that account went.
They didn't, though, because her contacts (or, perhaps, addresses - I
can't remember which terminology Tbird uses) are stored local to Tbird
and are not synced with her e-mail accounts. Since I'm the one who
installed Tbird for her several years ago and I know I didn't change any
defaults related to how contacts/addresses are handled, it appears that
they are managed locally.

When that's the case, you need to make certain to export from your
e-mail client and import via the web interface to the contacts for the
given e-mail account you're going to be adding to the mail app, and, by
extension, the People and Calendar apps. Whether you do this prior to
adding it or after will be irrelevant because as soon as those contacts
are imported into the contacts list maintained by your email server they
will sync with the People app.

I hasten to add this is also likely only applicable to IMAP access,
though I'm not 100% certain on that.

Brian


Re: Hi, from win10 Mail App!

Kenny Dog <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi David

I wonder if it is the same idea as outlook.com? is it more like a online
email client? that will let you get emails from other email addresses
like g mail and so on?

I know in outlook.com there is like a pain you can set when you go to
read the email. It when opened could go below the message above the
message or like on another page. if it was set for below after you
pressed enter on the email then it was a matter of using the say all
command. If it was set like off to the side then I would use the table
command to locate it. But say after you read the email if i remember
right I had to use the alt key and the left arrow key to go back to
where teh messages were, then go to the next one. When I done replies
as well to a message I am sure this could also be set to reply above the
message or below it as well under the settings part.

I guess I will know if I setup a account just to see the steps required
and what has to be done once i locate my details to setup a account.

At present I am using mozilla thunderbird and I like it so the other
would be a look and see what you have to do.

Gene nz

On 10-May-16 8:53 AM, David Moore wrote:
Hi Gene,
I will do the tutorial with NVDA, because of what you have to do to
read the message. Everything works great with NVDA except to read the
message LOL! I am still working with it to find a consistent way to do
this. Thanks for asking, Gene, Take care.


-----Original Message----- From: Gene New Zealand
Sent: Monday, May 9, 2016 4:41 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Hi, from win10 Mail App!

Hi david

Will you be using the nvda screen reader for the audio tutorial? so we
can hear what problems that we might have and how to get arond them? or
the other one?

I was just reading through the stuff from the drop box account to do
with the email client it sounds almost the same as out look.ocm in a
way. I might even have a look and set up a account with nvda to see what
has to be done when I get some free time.

Gene nz


On 09-May-16 4:31 PM, David Moore wrote:
Hi Rosemarie,
I just sent out to the list everything you have to know about using
the win10 mail and calendar apps. I will do a audio tutorial for you
and everyone else. In the next couple of days, I will do that audio
tutorial. Wow, this is so exciting. I just started to mess around with
the win10 mail app, and now, I am ready to do an audio tutorial. Look
for the message I just sent to the entire list with many articles that
take you step by step through different tasks, and there are many key
commands.
David Moore (win10 list moderator)


-----Original Message----- From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Sunday, May 8, 2016 11:11 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Hi, from win10 Mail App!

Hi, David,

Could you do a tutorial on the mail ap for us like you did for google
chrome? That would be great.

Rosemarie



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
David Moore
Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2016 7:09 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Hi, from win10 Mail App!

Hi,
When you are using the win10 mail app, your contacts are imported into
the people app. So, you need to use the people app for your contacts
and addresses, and the mail app to work with the messages. So, you
have the people app and the mail app working together and you should
have them both running at the same time. The Calendar app is very
closely related to the mail app as well. So really, to have it all,
you need the mail, people, and calendar apps running all at the same
time. This is how it differs to other clients. You need three apps
running to have the whole picture.


From: Brian Vogel <mailto:britechguy@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 8, 2016 11:25 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Hi, from win10 Mail App!


Jacob,

Since David Moore has also posted elsewhere about this he is
using the new Win10 mail app that ships with every Win10 machine and
shows up on the start menu out of the box.

It's got little in common with earlier e-mail clients other
than the fact that it is used to read mail.


I'm still not able to get message text read using NVDA and the
Win10 mail app, but I'm presuming that this is operator error of some
sort.


Brian
--
Check out my website for nvda tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net


Re: DictationBridge demo up

Kevin Cussick
 

Hi, I have installed the addon, but can't find any keystrokes to get started help please thanks.

On 09/05/2016 17:58, Pranav Lal wrote:
Dear all,

A demonstration version of DictationBridge in the form of a NVDA add-on is up at
http://dictationbridge.com/2016/05/09/dictationbridge-prototype-now-available/

Pranav