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Re: Admin's Notes Re List Conduct, Please Read #adminnotice

g melconian <gmelconian619@...>
 

brian, I also welcome all your found knowledge of how you approach things and how you make things really well to understand for us blind users. Thanks for you being the moderator of all these different lists that you run with the amount of time that you have in the day. Thank you very much I also support all your efforts and I also have been in communications back and forth with you privately on email chassis communications so I also support everything that you're doing to help out the blind community. Thank you very much and have a good happy holidays. Take care.

On December 30, 2020 9:29:55 AM "Brian Vogel" <britechguy@...> wrote:

Rosemarie and Arlene,

           I just wanted to thank you for your kind words, and particularly for your saying you'd forgotten or not known that I am sighted.  I do mention this occasionally because I do not want anyone, on any of the blind technology groups on which I participate, to ever believe I am trying to impersonate a blind person nor making any claim that I can or do know, a in lived experience sense, what it is to be blind.  I've simply worked with blind technology and individuals who are blind and visually impaired for quite a few years now and that's taught me an awful lot.

           But it's very nice to know that, at least for the most part, much of what I now write in these venues reads in such a way that the fact that I see is not at all readily obvious unless I bring it up or someone else does.  There are times where the fact that I can see is relevant, and it makes perfect sense for that to be mentioned when it is.  But when it's not germane to the conversation it just isn't.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

[Regarding the Supreme Court refusing to hear the case brought by Texas to overturn the votes certified by 4 states:Pleased with the SCOTUS ruling, but also immediately slightly terrified of where this crazy train goes next.  We should know by now there’s a bottomless supply of crazy.

        ~ Brendan Buck, former adviser to Speakers of the House Paul Ryan and John Boehner 

 


Re: NVDA using braille in multi-lingual text environment

Mary Otten
 

Thanks again, Jason. That makes sense. Sorry for the elementary questions.


Mary

On 12/30/2020 10:30 AM, Jason White via groups.io wrote:

On 12/30/20 1:12 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
My experience with a display and a computer has been limited to typing on a regular keyboard and reading the output on the display, rather than typing using a braille keyboard; the displays we had didn't have keyboards. So when using a display with a braille keyboard, how does the proper encoding occur?
You can select your input braille table as well as your output table. Of course, it is entirely your decision whether to enter text using the braille display's keyboard or the host system's qwerty keyboard - whichever is easiest under the circumstances.






Re: How to turn off NVDA

 

Well, it absolutely never hurts to try:

1. Using SFC (System File Checker) and DISM (Deployment Imaging Servicing and Management) to Repair Windows 8 & 10

and if that doesn't work:

2. Doing a Windows 10 Repair Install or Feature Update Using the Windows 10 ISO file

 


To see if the issue is resolved.  I would actually uninstall NVDA before doing these, just so we know we have the "cleanest possible system" before putting it back on.

If both of the above do not work, at least you have the ISO file downloaded already, and could pick up in the instructions after that point for, Doing a Completely Clean (Re)install of Windows 10 Using Media Creation Tool to Fetch the Win10 ISO File

 

, if it comes to that.

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[Regarding the Supreme Court refusing to hear the case brought by Texas to overturn the votes certified by 4 states:Pleased with the SCOTUS ruling, but also immediately slightly terrified of where this crazy train goes next.  We should know by now there’s a bottomless supply of crazy.

        ~ Brendan Buck, former adviser to Speakers of the House Paul Ryan and John Boehner 

 


Re: How to turn off NVDA

Food Posse <allaboutfoodandfun@...>
 

What a wonderful group!!

To answer what folks on this list so helpfully offered and asked:

Unfortunately, this is her own personal computer and the only one she has so no option to change computers. Narrator is pre-installed but she really wants NVDA.

It is definitely NVDA and not Narrator. Narrator is set to only use the Caps Lock with a voice higher in pitch and speed to differentiate. NVDA only with Insert. This was a really good idea since we did not think of it!

We applied the suggestion to Reset NVDA configuration to factory default but the same thing continues.

We uninstalled NVDA through the Apps & features settings option. No remaining folders with NVDA. Then downloaded a new copy of NVDA to install.

This is a new computer and we only installed and customized a couple of programs so it is not too much of a beast to reinstall windows and do it all again. But this will take some time so I wanted to test some of the other suggestions first.

But some thoughts are coming to mind that I want to further investigate before a complete wipe. Assuming the os is not corrupt, then something is keeping an instance of NVDA active or NVDA is attaching itself to something active like a utility so I want to follow that logic a bit without going indefinitely down a rabbit hole!

Any other ideas is most welcome!


On 12/29/2020 2:30 PM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

Hi


When you said you fully uninstalled nvda was that only from program and features?


There is another area where the settings are keaped that should be deleted if you are having problems if the nvda.ini file mucks up.


After NvDA has been uninstalled from program and features  do the following.


Press the windows key + the letter R it will bring up a run dialogue box then type the following %appdata% then press the enter key.


The next screen that comes up will give you a list of directories  find the one called nvda then delete it out then close the screen with the alt + f4 key.


then reinstall nvda. It might be a good idea actually to grab a fresh copy of it from nvaccess then reinstall it to the pc.

Just in case you got a bad down load before.


Use the narrator screen reader to do the above unless you have some sight to do it.


Did you try a factory reset of nvda? this some times fixes any problems.


Use the nvda key + letter N to bring up the menu when it is running then arrow down to Reset configuration to factory defaults then press the enter key.


Make sure also that when you go to set it up again you see the message like which layout, do you want to use the caps lock key as a modifier start nvda at startup etc.


I think the short cut to do the reset is nvda key + ctrl + R 3 times.


GGene nz



On 30/12/2020 4:58 am, Food Posse wrote:

Thank you for the troubleshooting efforts.

We did not select the option to launch NVDA at windows login. But even if it was, sounds like NVDA should not auto-launch after closing unless activated by a person. We did not change any other NVDA default settings.

So we uninstalled and reinstalled NVDA but the same thing happens - Insert+Q, dialog box open, default option is already Exit, dialog box closes but NVDA continues to read the screen. Then when forced to close through the Task Manager, NVDA still automatically relaunches at various times like launching an app.

This is a new system so it should be pretty clean. There are very few programs other than what came pre-installed with the laptop. AVG was downloaded to confirm no viruses on the computer or on the NVDA exe before we reinstalled. We even checked the startup options in the Task Manager and NVDA is not on the list. Our friend really wants NVDA but we are not sure what else to try.


On 12/28/2020 3:05 PM, Gene wrote:
I suspect the reason NVDA automatically comes on when set to run at the login screen when the secure desktop comes up may be that NVDA loads another version of itself to run when the secure desktop opens.  My guess is that there is a relation between this and the setting to automatically run at the login screen.  Perhaps one of the developers will discuss the matter.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2020 2:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to turn off NVDA

On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 02:21 PM, Bob Cavanaugh wrote:
Actually, this isn't always the case. If the option to use NVDA on the
log-on screen is checked, it annoyingly pops up on every screen that
requires administrative action, and stays there until you shut it off.-
This is news to me, and good information to have.  Most of the folks I've worked with who are using NVDA have their systems set up to log them straight in to their desktops on system (re)start, so they're not using that setting.

Several don't even have any screen reader turn on initially by default, as they will choose one based on what it is they're about to work with first if one screen reader works with that software better than the other.

Other than what you document above, which I've never seen because that setting was not set, I have not encountered NVDA doing a self-restart once explicitly exited from.

There are a number of possibilities here, but if the situation you described is known to not have been set up, I still strongly recommend an uninstall and reinstall to see if that clears things up, and paying particular attention to the dialogs when installing so the way you want NVDA to behave is actually set up correctly.


Re: NVDA using braille in multi-lingual text environment

Jason White
 

On 12/30/20 1:12 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
My experience with a display and a computer has been limited to typing on a regular keyboard and reading the output on the display, rather than typing using a braille keyboard; the displays we had didn't have keyboards. So when using a display with a braille keyboard, how does the proper encoding occur?
You can select your input braille table as well as your output table. Of course, it is entirely your decision whether to enter text using the braille display's keyboard or the host system's qwerty keyboard - whichever is easiest under the circumstances.


Re: NVDA using braille in multi-lingual text environment

Mary Otten
 

Thanks, Jason. I will have to look into that add-on. Now for a stupid question. My experience with a display and a computer has been limited to typing on a regular keyboard and reading the output on the display, rather than typing using a braille keyboard; the displays we had didn't have keyboards. So when using a display with a braille keyboard, how does the proper encoding occur? I mean, if I typed on a regular keyboard, I would have to change my keyboard between English and cyrillic as appropriate. Does the braille table handle that functionality for braille input, such that I would switch back and forth between U.S. English grade II and Russian as appropriate? I hope that was clear. Also, can you have a usb keyboard connected and active, so that you would have the choice of typing on the braille keyboard of the display or your regular keyboard? I'm thinking that would be a nice thing, so you could avoid needing computer braille, for example.


Mary



Mary

On 12/30/2020 9:55 AM, Jason White via groups.io wrote:

On 12/30/20 12:29 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
I have recently ordered a braille display. One of the things I'd like to do with it is access multi-lingual texts, e.g. websites, which have both English and cyrillic alphabets in use. In order to do that efficiently, one would need to have a braille table that included both of these alphabets, grade II English and uncontracted Russian, active at the same time, or somehow have a combined table with both at once. Is that possible?
It's possible, but I don't know whether such a table is available. Note also that the BrailleExtender add-on for NVDA allows you to switch tables easily - not what you need in this case, but at least a short-term solution.






Re: NVDA using braille in multi-lingual text environment

Jason White
 

On 12/30/20 12:29 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
I have recently ordered a braille display. One of the things I'd like to do with it is access multi-lingual texts, e.g. websites, which have both English and cyrillic alphabets in use. In order to do that efficiently, one would need to have a braille table that included both of these alphabets, grade II English and uncontracted Russian, active at the same time, or somehow have a combined table with both at once. Is that possible?
It's possible, but I don't know whether such a table is available. Note also that the BrailleExtender add-on for NVDA allows you to switch tables easily - not what you need in this case, but at least a short-term solution.


Word 2013 ribbon and NVDA 2020.3

bering.p
 

Hi.
I don'find t the link.
So this is the log:
nvda log
Best regards.
Paul.
Le 30/12/2020 11:13, Lukasz Golonka via groups.io a écrit :

Unfortunately list does not allow attachments, so I haven't got your log.
Please activate the link that says ', Reply To Sender' at the bottom of
the message and attach it there.



Re: Admin's Notes Re List Conduct, Please Read #adminnotice

 

Rosemarie and Arlene,

           I just wanted to thank you for your kind words, and particularly for your saying you'd forgotten or not known that I am sighted.  I do mention this occasionally because I do not want anyone, on any of the blind technology groups on which I participate, to ever believe I am trying to impersonate a blind person nor making any claim that I can or do know, a in lived experience sense, what it is to be blind.  I've simply worked with blind technology and individuals who are blind and visually impaired for quite a few years now and that's taught me an awful lot.

           But it's very nice to know that, at least for the most part, much of what I now write in these venues reads in such a way that the fact that I see is not at all readily obvious unless I bring it up or someone else does.  There are times where the fact that I can see is relevant, and it makes perfect sense for that to be mentioned when it is.  But when it's not germane to the conversation it just isn't.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

[Regarding the Supreme Court refusing to hear the case brought by Texas to overturn the votes certified by 4 states:Pleased with the SCOTUS ruling, but also immediately slightly terrified of where this crazy train goes next.  We should know by now there’s a bottomless supply of crazy.

        ~ Brendan Buck, former adviser to Speakers of the House Paul Ryan and John Boehner 

 


NVDA using braille in multi-lingual text environment

Mary Otten
 

Hi all,


I have recently ordered a braille display. One of the things I'd like to do with it is access multi-lingual texts, e.g. websites, which have both English and cyrillic alphabets in use. In order to do that efficiently, one would need to have a braille table that included both of these alphabets, grade II English and uncontracted Russian, active at the same time, or somehow have a combined table with both at once. Is that possible? Where I use to work, we had that, but it was on a completely different system, built in house, based on unix, so not relevant here, I shouldn't think.


I know that on my iPhone, if I have the right voices available, the speech will switch easily from English to Russian, but that hasn't happened for me on the pc, even though I do have English and Russian voices installed from the same source. Maybe that's not even related. I just put it out there as an additional piece of info.


Mary


Re: DVD ripper that works with NVDA?

 

On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 12:48 AM, Ian Blackburn wrote:
yes VLC will be able to play the ISO of the dvd once loaded
-
Thanks for confirming this.  It also means that a ton of unnecessary (and probably useless) work will now be avoided.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

[Regarding the Supreme Court refusing to hear the case brought by Texas to overturn the votes certified by 4 states:Pleased with the SCOTUS ruling, but also immediately slightly terrified of where this crazy train goes next.  We should know by now there’s a bottomless supply of crazy.

        ~ Brendan Buck, former adviser to Speakers of the House Paul Ryan and John Boehner 

 


Re: Admin's Notes Re List Conduct, Please Read #adminnotice

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Arleen,


I forgot that Brian is sighted. I think it's great that he's worked with blind clients and as far as his vision, that doesn't bother me in the least. I've had very good teachers who were sighted and their vision never even crossed my mind.


Rosemarie

On 12/29/2020 10:57 PM, Arlene wrote:
Happy New year to you all. What! Brian has vision? I didn’t know that! Nor
do I care that he does. I thought he was totally blind like most people on the
list. The reason I thought he was blind like us is because he talks in a way
that most of us blind users talk wile operating our computers. Well, all the
world to him looking after this list.

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Here's hoping this message finds you well, and if you celebrate the new year,
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I want to be very clear on an issue which has risen on this list. I want to make
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Re: strange behaviour with a speech dictionary entry

Gene
 

You might have better success using the voice dictionary. there have been rare times when I have gotten something to work properly by using the voice dictionary rrather than the defaut dictionary.

Gene

`-----Original Message-----
From: Giles Turnbull
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2020 10:30 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] strange behaviour with a speech dictionary entry

I was trying to add a Romanian word to my NVDA default dictionary. The word has a cedilla-type accent under the lower-case t. The word is putin (with the accent under the t, ț) ... the word means "a little", as in I speak a little Romanian.

I actually wanted to add two words to my default dictionary, first a Romanian city that also has the t with cedilla, Constanța and I entered that with the replacement pronunciation ConStantza. I set it to be replaced as whole-word-only and that works perfectly. I then wanted to add the t with cedilla accent as a character in its own right with a replacement of "t with cedilla", again as whole-word-only so that if I investigated a word with the accented t letter by letter, it would get spoken as "t with cedilla" but the word putin wouldn't be spoken as "putwith cedillain" ... and that works ... except not when navigating character by character through the word!

When reading the word letter by letter, it doesn't matter how I change the replacement text for the t with cedilla character, it gets spelled-out letter by letter: t w i t h c e d i l l a. To clarify, if I am reading this whole post, for example, when NVDA gets to the t with cedilla character it says "t with cedilla"; when I reach the character navigating letter by letter, such as in the placename NVDA reads C o n s t a n t w i t h c e d i l l a!

I deleted the character from the default dictionary and added it to the voice dictionary for SAPI-5 Zira. The result was the same. I then tried changing to another SAPI-5 voice, Hazel ... and again the word gets fully spelled-out including the replacement text, even though NVDA can speak the replacement text just fine when I tab from and then back to the replacement text in the dictionary entry (NVDA can say cedilla as a full word without difficulty)

I just wondered if anybody has any suggestions on why this might be happening ... I have actually just found a solution ... if I use the 1 Core version of Zira rather than the SAPI-5 version, the t with cedilla always gets spoken as complete words when the word is navigated character by character - it is not spelled out. That shouldln't be a big change to make - the default dictionary entries will be the same and all I'll need to copy across is the text from the SAPI-5 Zira dictionary file and paste it into the 1 Core Zira voice dictionary file!

I could probably delete this post rather than posting it, but I am going to post it because others might find it interesting ... and I'd certainly be interested in any suggestions or observations :)

Giles


strange behaviour with a speech dictionary entry

Giles Turnbull
 

I was trying to add a Romanian word to my NVDA default dictionary. The word has a cedilla-type accent under the lower-case t. The word is putin (with the accent under the t, ț) ... the word means "a little", as in I speak a little Romanian.

I actually wanted to add two words to my default dictionary, first a Romanian city that also has the t with cedilla, Constanța and I entered that with the replacement pronunciation ConStantza. I set it to be replaced as whole-word-only and that works perfectly. I then wanted to add the t with cedilla accent as a character in its own right with a replacement of "t with cedilla", again as whole-word-only so that if I investigated a word with the accented t letter by letter, it would get spoken as "t with cedilla" but the word putin wouldn't be spoken as "putwith cedillain" ... and that works ... except not when navigating character by character through the word!

When reading the word letter by letter, it doesn't matter how I change the replacement text for the t with cedilla character, it gets spelled-out letter by letter: t w i t h c e d i l l a. To clarify, if I am reading this whole post, for example, when NVDA gets to the t with cedilla character it says "t with cedilla"; when I reach the character navigating letter by letter, such as in the placename NVDA reads C o n s t a n t w i t h c e d i l l a!

I deleted the character from the default dictionary and added it to the voice dictionary for SAPI-5 Zira. The result was the same. I then tried changing to another SAPI-5 voice, Hazel ... and again the word gets fully spelled-out including the replacement text, even though NVDA can speak the replacement text just fine when I tab from and then back to the replacement text in the dictionary entry (NVDA can say cedilla as a full word without difficulty)

I just wondered if anybody has any suggestions on why this might be happening ... I have actually just found a solution ... if I use the 1 Core version of Zira rather than the SAPI-5 version, the t with cedilla always gets spoken as complete words when the word is navigated character by character - it is not spelled out. That shouldln't be a big change to make - the default dictionary entries will be the same and all I'll need to copy across is the text from the SAPI-5 Zira dictionary file and paste it into the 1 Core Zira voice dictionary file!

I could probably delete this post rather than posting it, but I am going to post it because others might find it interesting ... and I'd certainly be interested in any suggestions or observations :)

Giles


Re: SPSS and NVDA

 

If you have not already done so, have a look at these topics returned from a group archive search:  https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/search?ev=0&q=SPSS&ct=1 

SPSS has been discussed on a number of occasions, but I cannot recall what the ultimate conclusion(s) were about it and accessibility.

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[Regarding the Supreme Court refusing to hear the case brought by Texas to overturn the votes certified by 4 states:Pleased with the SCOTUS ruling, but also immediately slightly terrified of where this crazy train goes next.  We should know by now there’s a bottomless supply of crazy.

        ~ Brendan Buck, former adviser to Speakers of the House Paul Ryan and John Boehner 

 


Re: NVDA say: edit read-only when nagivate line by line in Word

Giles Turnbull
 

Hi Cuong,

most of the time this happens with Word, it is because the document has been emailed to the NVDA user. Regardless of whether the NVDA user has opened it directly from the email or has saved it to their computer first and then opened it, Word will open it in protected mode, which is read-only and therefore it can't be edited and many of the ribbon options, like chnaging font or changing the view to draft view will not work.

To prevent that happening, press ALT+f to open the file menu, press the down arrow key three times to get to the Info menu, press Tab to enter that menu and then press the down arrow to get to the Protected View menu. Press Tab again and you'll be on the Enable Editing option and, if you press enter, that document will become unprotected and the NVDA user should no longer hear the warning that the document is protected and can't be edited. It will remain unprotected even after you close the document or shut down the computer. The same works with Excel files :)

I hope that helps.

Giles


Re: Problem in the latest beta of NVDA

Iván Novegil
 

This is being discussed in an issue at NVDA repository.

https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/11968

From there you can even download a try build with the suggested fix to test and report if it solves the issue.


Regards.

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O 30/12/2020 á(s) 16:20, Vaibhav Bhandari escribiu:

Hi all,
I recently updated to the latest beta version of NVDA in which I have
been facing a really weerd issue.
The problem is that whenever I switch my listening device from my
earphone to my bluetooth headphones, the sounds that NVDA makes while
entering/exiting focus/brows mode, exiting NVDA and enabling/desabling
screen curtain can't be heard. I then have to restart NVDA for those
sounds to return.
I didn't face this particular issue in the previous versions of NVDA
so I wished to ask if it is a bta related issue?


Re: Problem in the latest beta of NVDA

 

Hi,
The issue was identified and a fix from NV Access is pending review.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Vaibhav Bhandari
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2020 7:21 AM
To: nvda <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] Problem in the latest beta of NVDA

Hi all,
I recently updated to the latest beta version of NVDA in which I have been facing a really weerd issue.
The problem is that whenever I switch my listening device from my earphone to my bluetooth headphones, the sounds that NVDA makes while entering/exiting focus/brows mode, exiting NVDA and enabling/desabling screen curtain can't be heard. I then have to restart NVDA for those sounds to return.
I didn't face this particular issue in the previous versions of NVDA so I wished to ask if it is a bta related issue?

--
Thanks/regards: Vaibhav Bhandari


Problem in the latest beta of NVDA

Vaibhav Bhandari
 

Hi all,
I recently updated to the latest beta version of NVDA in which I have
been facing a really weerd issue.
The problem is that whenever I switch my listening device from my
earphone to my bluetooth headphones, the sounds that NVDA makes while
entering/exiting focus/brows mode, exiting NVDA and enabling/desabling
screen curtain can't be heard. I then have to restart NVDA for those
sounds to return.
I didn't face this particular issue in the previous versions of NVDA
so I wished to ask if it is a bta related issue?

--
Thanks/regards: Vaibhav Bhandari


Re: problems using NVDA with my new laptop

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Betsy, when using a laptop keyboard the only time you use desktop settings is if your keyboard has a numpad.
NVDA+1 on the keyboard is a good way to locate keys. you will still need some sighted help because not all keys are labeled in a way that NVDA will recognize.An alternative is to invest in a USB keyboard or a wireless one. I say this because you will find some of your NVDA key commands fun to accomplish because many of them will require using the FN key to accomplish. thus, my suggestion of using an external keyboard.

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From: "Betsy Grenevitch" <blindangel61@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2020 6:16 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] problems using NVDA with my new laptop


Thank you, Mareth. I will write this down and try it later today.


I hope you are doing well.


On 12/30/2020 1:20 AM, Hareth wrote:
Hi Betsy,
Try using the "home" and "end" buttons for top and bottom of lists.
And ctrl plus home hotkey for the top of a message and opened text
file and ctrl plus end hotkey for the bottom of it, that works for
some type of lists as well if the 1st one didn't work.
As for the laptops Numlock key mostly
you can do it with pressing the "FN" key combined with another mostly
in the numbers row, and re do it to unlock its a toggle.
The best and easy way to find it is to invoke the NVDA's key helper
mode with hitting the NVDA plus number 1 to turn it on, and test your
keys, press the same hotkey to get out of it.
Happy new year to you and your family.

On 12/29/20, Betsy Grenevitch <blindangel61@gmail.com> wrote:
I received a new laptop and my daughter thought she had exported
everything properly but a lot of the NVDA commands are not working such
as going to the top of a list of emails, going to the top of a file etc.
I am using Windows 10 and the NVDA is set to desktop layout.


I would definitely appreciate if someone could help me figure out what
is going on.


It is an Asus laptop.


Thanks.


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