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NVDA add-on: Developer toolkit tutorials and guides

Andy B.
 

Developer toolkit is an NVDA add-on that assists blind and visually impaired software/web developers create appealing user interfaces and web pages. It does this through analyzing the accessibility tree provided by browsers and other software conforming to the UIA specifications set out by Microsoft or the legacy IAccessible2 interfaces, also provided by Microsoft.

Once Developer toolkit 20.03 is released, it will be stable enough for general production use. In which formats would you like to see the tutorials or guides produced? For example, Word, PDF, HTML, screen casts/YouTube videos, or audio files? What type of user interfaces would you like to create or get a tutorial/guide on how to create? Send your submissions to ajborka@... and I will start looking into the process once DTK 20.03 is released.

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: Converting JAWS Dictionaries

 

I could still use some additional test cases - JAWS dictionaries that I can convert.   If anyone has a JDF file, preferably one that is either in English or where the JAWS language is "any" that they'd like converted, send me the JDF file using the Reply to Sender link at the bottom of this message.

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Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 


Re: Outlook 2019 Issue

Hareth
 

Couldn't replicate your issue.
Using office outlook 2019
With NVDA2020.1beta1, And Jaws-2020
I hope this would clear some with you.
Try to use NVDA with addons turned off.
Or update your NVDA to the beta release.
TC

On 4/28/20, Christopher Gray <chris@moblind.org> wrote:
Hi:

I am using Outlook 2019 with NVDA. Often, if I am typing a message, my
computer locks up. The only thing I can do is ctrl_alt_del arrow to the
Power Button and either restart or shutdown. Is it possible this has to do
with an interaction with NVDA and Outlook 2019. It happens so often that I
am forced to write messages in Notepad, Select All, and paste the message
into an Outlook message. This never locks up.

Chris




Re: Question: Are there any tutorials on backup and restore helpful for NVDA users who totally rely on speech or Braille?

Kevin Cussick
 

this program is good, but if Your locked out of windows it can not be used.

On 27/04/2020 17:55, zahra wrote:
hi.
i know the excellent program that even restoring backup is accessible
for screen readers.
in the past, it was not freeware unfortunately.
i dont know about current versions of it.
the program is drive snapshot.
On 4/27/20, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
Laurie,

I have nothing on restore simply because I've never had any instance to even
try to do one with a screen reader.  Given that most recovery is done
through a dedicated bootable disk, and not Windows itself, since you are
actually trying to recover a Windows System Image, it's doubtful that there
is any way to do so with a screen reader.  If someone knows of a recovery
utility that either has a screen reader built in or that can otherwise be
made to speak I'd love to hear about it.

You could use any backup & recovery suite of your choosing, but I wrote a
tutorial several years ago on using Macrium Reflect Free to take backups.
The first page deals entirely with installing the utility, which you'll do
only once.  The second is the set of step-by-step instructions for actually
taking the backup.  In this day and age of ransomware, I do not recommend
that backup drives remain attached to a machine other than when a backup is
being taken or a recovery performed.  Any drive that's attached if
ransomware hits gets encrypted, and in the case of a backup drive that makes
having the backup pointless.

*Using Macrium Reflect Free with a Screen Reader (
https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&;id=1MaK3Pe-eI8P3dRJOS2T9ulY3ykmjKlKD
)*
--

Brian *-* Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363

*Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its
platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.*

~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment
Took Hold in the United States (
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/23/health/anti-vaccination-movement-us.html
) , September 23, 2019




Re: Outlook 2019 Issue

 

And even though this isn't about NVDA, per se, since it is about testing to try to determine if there's an NVDA problem . . .

Freedom Scientific is offering free licenses for JAWS, Fusion, and ZoomText that are valid through June 30, 2020, for the asking.  If you want a copy of JAWS (or Fusion) to experiment with, then go to, https://portal.freedomscientific.com/SponsoredSoftware, and proceed through the process.

Narrator is, of course, built-in to Windows 10 and Windows 8.1.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 


Re: Windows PE ISO file with NVDA installed

Sean
 

Hi all,
This was very, very important to me.
I would like to thank everyone who contributed to the ISO.

I just caught Image with "dism".
I also deleted some files that I could not delete in Windows.

It can be useful for other group members.
I downloaded 2 times with IDM and an error occurred.

There was no problem when I downloaded it with Chrome.
IDM showed the file size as 800 mb.
In Chrome, it was downloaded as 1.3 GB.
This is all about the Drive service.
this ISO can work for everyone.
On the Internet, links die and disappear easily.
You must download and archive.

Yours.


On 28/04/2020 18:38, Deenadayalan Moodley wrote:

Hi Brian,

 

Here you go:

Windows 7 64 bit

https://od.lk/d/NzNfMTUxODczNzVf/Win7PE_x64.exe

 

Windows 7 32 Bit:

https://od.lk/d/NzNfMTUxODczNzZf/Win7PE_x86.exe

 

Windows 10 64 bit:

https://od.lk/d/NzNfMTUxODczNzdf/Win10PE_x64.exe

 

Windows 10 32 Bit:

https://od.lk/d/NzNfMTUxODczODRf/Win10PE_x86.exe

 

Windows PE documentation:

https://od.lk/d/NzNfMTUxODczODVf/WinPE_Docs.zip

 

Have fun.

 

Thanks.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, 28 April 2020 16:39
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows PE ISO file with NVDA installed

 

We now have confirmation that the Windows 10 from Version 1703 onward has allowed you to invoke Narrator when installing.

Now I'd like to steer this back to the original question:  Does anyone have the "Talking Windows PE" ISOs with NVDA packaged in them?

I wish I had downloaded these way back when but I didn't.  Google gives 15 GB of free drive space on Google Drive with any Google Account, so it should easily be possible to host these again if someone has them available for upload.  I may also have enough space on my Amazon S3 space, but I'm not sure.  But a definite source is needed first.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 

--

Sean

I’m student and programmer. I write often Python, sometimes Go and rare C++.
I can understand Turkish and English.


Re: Outlook 2019 Issue

Gene
 

I haven't seen this problem discussed before so, whatever the cause,
it may be your machine or quite limited. Do you have another
screen-reader you can compare the behavior with such as a JAWS demo or
Narrator, if it supports that program and version?

Gene

On 4/28/20, Christopher Gray <chris@moblind.org> wrote:
Hi:

I am using Outlook 2019 with NVDA. Often, if I am typing a message, my
computer locks up. The only thing I can do is ctrl_alt_del arrow to the
Power Button and either restart or shutdown. Is it possible this has to do
with an interaction with NVDA and Outlook 2019. It happens so often that I
am forced to write messages in Notepad, Select All, and paste the message
into an Outlook message. This never locks up.

Chris




Re: Windows PE ISO file with NVDA installed

 

On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 12:20 PM, Deenadayalan Moodley wrote:
I use a usb version where I have added a lot of additional tools to repair computers.
Thanks for the explanation.  It's not that I think any member would share anything malicious, I was just curious.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 


Outlook 2019 Issue

Christopher Gray
 

Hi:

 

I am using Outlook 2019 with NVDA.  Often, if I am typing a message, my computer locks up.  The only thing I can do is ctrl_alt_del arrow to the Power Button and either restart or shutdown.  Is it possible this has to do with an interaction with NVDA and Outlook 2019.  It happens so often that I am forced to write messages in Notepad, Select All, and paste the message into an Outlook message.  This never locks up.

 

Chris


Re: Windows PE ISO file with NVDA installed

Deenadayalan Moodley
 

Hi Brian,

 

These use Rufus.  When you run them it allows you to create either a dvd or write to usb. I use a usb version where I have added a lot of additional tools to repair computers.

 

Thanks.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, 28 April 2020 17:42
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows PE ISO file with NVDA installed

 

Just curious, but why are these EXE files?

I really was expecting ISO files, which the originals were for all the ones I'd ever seen or dealt with previously.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 


Re: Windows PE ISO file with NVDA installed

Sean
 

Very much thanks...

On 28/04/2020 18:38, Deenadayalan Moodley wrote:

Hi Brian,

 

Here you go:

Windows 7 64 bit

https://od.lk/d/NzNfMTUxODczNzVf/Win7PE_x64.exe

 

Windows 7 32 Bit:

https://od.lk/d/NzNfMTUxODczNzZf/Win7PE_x86.exe

 

Windows 10 64 bit:

https://od.lk/d/NzNfMTUxODczNzdf/Win10PE_x64.exe

 

Windows 10 32 Bit:

https://od.lk/d/NzNfMTUxODczODRf/Win10PE_x86.exe

 

Windows PE documentation:

https://od.lk/d/NzNfMTUxODczODVf/WinPE_Docs.zip

 

Have fun.

 

Thanks.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, 28 April 2020 16:39
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows PE ISO file with NVDA installed

 

We now have confirmation that the Windows 10 from Version 1703 onward has allowed you to invoke Narrator when installing.

Now I'd like to steer this back to the original question:  Does anyone have the "Talking Windows PE" ISOs with NVDA packaged in them?

I wish I had downloaded these way back when but I didn't.  Google gives 15 GB of free drive space on Google Drive with any Google Account, so it should easily be possible to host these again if someone has them available for upload.  I may also have enough space on my Amazon S3 space, but I'm not sure.  But a definite source is needed first.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 

--

Sean

I’m student and programmer. I write often Python, sometimes Go and rare C++.
I can understand Turkish and English.


Re: Windows PE ISO file with NVDA installed

Sean
 

Hi all,

We mess the issues together.
I don't want to install Windows.
Windows can already be successfully installed with narrator.
Even the disk formatting screen can be accessed.

This is not what I want to do.
I will run a portable windows, I will get the image of my installed disk.

Narrator is insufficient as these operations require command line usage.
That's why it's important to have NVDA installed.

Please do not write anything other than Windows PE under the message.
The subject changes, it becomes difficult to find content in searches.
There are many new messages here.
Everyone has talked about how to install Windows.


Please share the Windows PE ISO with NVDA installed.


On 28/04/2020 10:37, Shaun Everiss wrote:

Thanks jean, I don't personally need the pe images myself but its good you have them.

I'd actually be interested in making my own if it came to that.

But bar failing windows updates, the way I have things is mostly standard, but I have few tweaks I need to have active.



On 28/04/2020 5:33 pm, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

Hi Sean


I have on this pc 2 copies of Windows 10 PE versions and  for windows 10 one  is 32 and 64 bit.

I used to have a windows 7 version might still have it but would have to look.


I can only drop box one at a time my limit for drop box would be used up if both were done.


Is this what you are talking about they are the ones with nvda on it. Never used it but they are about 700 meg or so or maybe bigger.


not sure if it includes the ico image though.


Let us know if you want me to drop box it?

Plus which version.


Gene nz



On 28/04/2020 4:53 pm, Sean wrote:

Hi all,

I want to get the Image of the directory where Windows is installed.
Configuring my computer is difficult for me because I install a lot of programs and deal with things like regedit.
This takes a long time.
Now I think Capturing Image is more efficient.
People edit and publish Windows.
This is easy for them.

I need a Windows PE ISO with NVDA installed.
I spent a lot of time in nvda.groups.io, I searched.
Unfortunately, all links are dead and posts are not what I wanted.

I will capture the Image with the "dism" tool.

It does not matter Windows 7 or another version.
It should just be bootable. I will install with Rufus. and I will run the USB disk


Sean

I’m student and programmer. I write often Python, sometimes Go and rare C++.
I can understand Turkish and English.

--

Sean

I’m student and programmer. I write often Python, sometimes Go and rare C++.
I can understand Turkish and English.


Re: Windows PE ISO file with NVDA installed

 

Just curious, but why are these EXE files?

I really was expecting ISO files, which the originals were for all the ones I'd ever seen or dealt with previously.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 


Re: Windows PE ISO file with NVDA installed

Deenadayalan Moodley
 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, 28 April 2020 16:39
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows PE ISO file with NVDA installed

 

We now have confirmation that the Windows 10 from Version 1703 onward has allowed you to invoke Narrator when installing.

Now I'd like to steer this back to the original question:  Does anyone have the "Talking Windows PE" ISOs with NVDA packaged in them?

I wish I had downloaded these way back when but I didn't.  Google gives 15 GB of free drive space on Google Drive with any Google Account, so it should easily be possible to host these again if someone has them available for upload.  I may also have enough space on my Amazon S3 space, but I'm not sure.  But a definite source is needed first.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 


Re: Windows PE ISO file with NVDA installed

 

On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 10:50 AM, Hareth wrote:
Would post as soon as done uploading.
Thanks.  There's no rush.  It's just good to know that there actually remains a source out there to get them!
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 


Re: Windows PE ISO file with NVDA installed

Hareth
 

I do have those, It might take some time to upload I'm on a somehow
slow connection
Would post as soon as done uploading.

On 4/28/20, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
We now have confirmation that the Windows 10 from Version 1703 onward has
allowed you to invoke Narrator when installing.

Now I'd like to steer this back to the original question: Does anyone have
the "Talking Windows PE" ISOs with NVDA packaged in them?

I wish I had downloaded these way back when but I didn't. Google gives 15
GB of free drive space on Google Drive with any Google Account, so it should
easily be possible to host these again if someone has them available for
upload. I may also have enough space on my Amazon S3 space, but I'm not
sure. But a definite source is needed first.
--

Brian *-* Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363

*Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its
platform. Now, you simply declare your own truth.*

~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment
Took Hold in the United States (
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/23/health/anti-vaccination-movement-us.html
) , September 23, 2019




Re: Windows PE ISO file with NVDA installed

 

We now have confirmation that the Windows 10 from Version 1703 onward has allowed you to invoke Narrator when installing.

Now I'd like to steer this back to the original question:  Does anyone have the "Talking Windows PE" ISOs with NVDA packaged in them?

I wish I had downloaded these way back when but I didn't.  Google gives 15 GB of free drive space on Google Drive with any Google Account, so it should easily be possible to host these again if someone has them available for upload.  I may also have enough space on my Amazon S3 space, but I'm not sure.  But a definite source is needed first.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 


Re: Windows PE ISO file with NVDA installed

 

Hi,

1703.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 7:01 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows PE ISO file with NVDA installed

 

On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 09:42 AM, Bob Jutzi wrote:

With the most recent build, you don't need a talking installer for Windows 10. 

And as a side note, this has been around since long before Version 1909.  I want to say it came in at 1803, but it may have been 1809.  It was definitely a feature before even 1903.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 


Re: Windows PE ISO file with NVDA installed

Hareth
 

Yes, since the creators edition when ever that was.
Here is a handy Microsoft official tutorial on youtube
It shows how to clean install windows10 with narrator enabled.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sA4OWCXbva4
It might help some users.

On 4/28/20, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 09:42 AM, Bob Jutzi wrote:


With the most recent build, you don't need a talking installer for
Windows
10.
And as a side note, this has been around since long before Version 1909. I
want to say it came in at 1803, but it may have been 1809. It was
definitely a feature before even 1903.

--

Brian *-* Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363

*Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its
platform. Now, you simply declare your own truth.*

~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment
Took Hold in the United States (
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/23/health/anti-vaccination-movement-us.html
) , September 23, 2019




Re: Windows PE ISO file with NVDA installed

Bob Jutzi
 

Yes, sorry.
Not sure what I was thinking.  (LOL)
CTRL-windows-enter.

On 4/28/2020 9:55 AM, Hareth wrote:
Isn't it ctrl "windows inter" to launch pre installation narrator?
At least that was the case with the few computers I clean installed win10 on.
Didn't know if they've change it

On 4/28/20, Bob Jutzi <jutzi@windstream.net> wrote:
With the most recent build, you don't need a talking installer for
Windows 10. Assuming your system is configured to do this, boot from
the install DVD and CTRL-shift-enter launches Narrator.



On 4/28/2020 9:19 AM, Kerryn Gunness via groups.io wrote:

is this the talking installer for win 10?
if so i want it
thanks

----- Original Message -----
*From:* hurrikennyandopo ... <mailto:hurrikennyandopo@hotmail.com>
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Sent:* Tuesday, April 28, 2020 1:33 AM
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Windows PE ISO file with NVDA installed

Hi Sean


I have on this pc 2 copies of Windows 10 PE versions and for
windows 10 one is 32 and 64 bit.

I used to have a windows 7 version might still have it but would
have to look.


I can only drop box one at a time my limit for drop box would be
used up if both were done.


Is this what you are talking about they are the ones with nvda on
it. Never used it but they are about 700 meg or so or maybe bigger.


not sure if it includes the ico image though.


Let us know if you want me to drop box it?

Plus which version.


Gene nz



On 28/04/2020 4:53 pm, Sean wrote:
Hi all,

I want to get the Image of the directory where Windows is installed.
Configuring my computer is difficult for me because I install a
lot of programs and deal with things like regedit.
This takes a long time.
Now I think Capturing Image is more efficient.
People edit and publish Windows.
This is easy for them.

I need a Windows PE ISO with NVDA installed.
I spent a lot of time in nvda.groups.io, I searched.
Unfortunately, all links are dead and posts are not what I wanted.

I will capture the Image with the "dism" tool.

It does not matter Windows 7 or another version.
It should just be bootable. I will install with Rufus. and I will
run the USB disk


Sean

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I can understand Turkish and English.



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