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NVDA skype group
lauracornwell <lauracornwell1@...>
Hey there, to all on thislist we have a skype group createdfor people who just wants to talk about NVDA or who needs help withNVDAhears a link that you can use to joine Brandon Cross: https://join.skype.com/yuhmuyVSlmRT
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Re: NVA ignoring aria-hidden in IE 11 and Edge
Gene
I was pointing this out because you may be reading
messages out of sequence in general and that may cause you annoyance and make
threads unnecessarily difficult to follow.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Arlene
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2016 1:06 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVA ignoring aria-hidden in IE 11 and
Edge Yeah, I read thenewest first. Sorry about that.
From: Gene
[mailto:gsasner@...]
Do you read messages from newest to oldest? If sso, you will answer messages out of sequence and not read them in logical order. I'm asking because you appear to have read my second message first.
Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Arlene Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2016 12:33 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] NVA ignoring aria-hidden in IE 11 and Edge
Well, I thought so. Cause I know ten has a few bugs here and there.
From: Gene
[mailto:gsasner@...]
yes, since Edge is not available in any earlier versions of Windows.
Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Arlene Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2016 12:19 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] NVA ignoring aria-hidden in IE 11 and Edge
Hi, is this for windows ten?
From: grady.mcghee@...
[mailto:grady.mcghee@...]
It appears to be isolated when NVDA is using IE or Edge as I am not having this in Chrome.
Here is my code for our HTML5 video player:
<video id="view-video" controls> <source src="#" type="#"> <span aria-hidden="true">Your browser does not support the video tag.</span> </video>
Despite putting a <span> with an aria-hidden=”true”, NVDA will still read “Your browser does not support the video tag.” while the video is loading. Once the video is loaded, it will play. For some reason when using IE, NVDA will not ignore that text. It does not read it when using Chrome nor does VoiceOver read it. Is this an old bug that didn;t get fully fixed. I remember an issue aria-hidden in NVDA 2014 but thought is was fixed in 2015.
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Re: Changing from espeak?
Chris Shook <chris0309@...>
Brian,
Which Espeak voice do you prefer? Thanks Chris
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Re: Changing from espeak?
Brian's Mail list account BY <bglists@...>
Yes indeed, I think there are almost as meny Espeak lovers as haters. and as has been said many times, the voice one usees is very very personal. Just listen to the range on some of the cool blind tech podcasts to hear this.
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My position however is that the current default for new users seems to be not really that good. I'd aim for one with a deeper less sing song delivery myself, but then I'm UK English and that may well not be valid elsewhere. Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "Gene" <gsasner@ripco.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2016 5:50 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] Changing from espeak? No one said E-Speak would no longer be used. List members were simply expressing their opinions concerning E-Speak and whether it should be used.. Gene From: Sharni-Lee Ward Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2016 11:20 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] Changing from espeak? I've been out of the loop for a bit due to emails piling up and then Outlook being a pain (which eventually led to me getting Thunderbird just so I could access my emails). So, what's this about NVDA switching from espeak to something else? I love espeak! Certainly a great deal better than most synths I've heard, even the ones based on human voices! The inflection is wonderful and I'm so used to it...will I have to redo all my speech dictionaries? Will my ProTalker addon that I got so I could learn Japanese again still work with this alteration? I don't understand...
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Re: NVA ignoring aria-hidden in IE 11 and Edge
Arlene
Yeah, I read thenewest first. Sorry about that.
From: Gene [mailto:gsasner@...]
Sent: April-27-16 10:49 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVA ignoring aria-hidden in IE 11 and Edge
Do you read messages from newest to oldest? If sso, you will answer messages out of sequence and not read them in logical order. I'm asking because you appear to have read my second message first.
Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Arlene Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2016 12:33 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] NVA ignoring aria-hidden in IE 11 and Edge
Well, I thought so. Cause I know ten has a few bugs here and there.
From: Gene [mailto:gsasner@...]
yes, since Edge is not available in any earlier versions of Windows.
Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Arlene Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2016 12:19 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] NVA ignoring aria-hidden in IE 11 and Edge
Hi, is this for windows ten?
From: grady.mcghee@... [mailto:grady.mcghee@...]
It appears to be isolated when NVDA is using IE or Edge as I am not having this in Chrome.
Here is my code for our HTML5 video player:
<video id="view-video" controls> <source src="#" type="#"> <span aria-hidden="true">Your browser does not support the video tag.</span> </video>
Despite putting a <span> with an aria-hidden=”true”, NVDA will still read “Your browser does not support the video tag.” while the video is loading. Once the video is loaded, it will play. For some reason when using IE, NVDA will not ignore that text. It does not read it when using Chrome nor does VoiceOver read it. Is this an old bug that didn;t get fully fixed. I remember an issue aria-hidden in NVDA 2014 but thought is was fixed in 2015.
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Re: NVA ignoring aria-hidden in IE 11 and Edge
Gene
Do you read messages from newest to oldest?
If sso, you will answer messages out of sequence and not read them in logical
order. I'm asking because you appear to have read my second message
first.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Arlene
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2016 12:33 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVA ignoring aria-hidden in IE 11 and
Edge Well, I thought so. Cause I know ten has a few bugs here and there.
From: Gene
[mailto:gsasner@...]
yes, since Edge is not available in any earlier versions of Windows.
Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Arlene Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2016 12:19 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] NVA ignoring aria-hidden in IE 11 and Edge
Hi, is this for windows ten?
From: grady.mcghee@...
[mailto:grady.mcghee@...]
It appears to be isolated when NVDA is using IE or Edge as I am not having this in Chrome.
Here is my code for our HTML5 video player:
<video id="view-video" controls> <source src="#" type="#"> <span aria-hidden="true">Your browser does not support the video tag.</span> </video>
Despite putting a <span> with an aria-hidden=”true”, NVDA will still read “Your browser does not support the video tag.” while the video is loading. Once the video is loaded, it will play. For some reason when using IE, NVDA will not ignore that text. It does not read it when using Chrome nor does VoiceOver read it. Is this an old bug that didn;t get fully fixed. I remember an issue aria-hidden in NVDA 2014 but thought is was fixed in 2015.
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Re: NVA ignoring aria-hidden in IE 11 and Edge
Gene
I didn't ask what version of Windows you are
using. I responded to your question about whether the reported problem was
found in Windows 10 and I gave my guess about the versions of Windows it will be
found in..
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Arlene
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2016 12:33 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVA ignoring aria-hidden in IE 11 and
Edge Yes, I’m using windows 7.
From: Gene
[mailto:gsasner@...]
I should have said that I would expect that this is in Windows 10 because Edge is not available in earlier versions of Windows. It appears now that the problem may exist in Internet Explorer regardless of version of Windows. However, this has evidently not been tested in Windows 8.
Gene From: grady.mcghee@... Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2016 12:21 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] NVA ignoring aria-hidden in IE 11 and Edge
It was tested on Windows
7 at work and Widows 10 at home on
computer.
On 04/27/16, Arlene<NEDSTER66@GMAIL.com></NEDSTER66@ wrote:
Hi, is this for windows ten?
From: grady.mcghee@... [mailto:grady.mcghee@...]
It appears to be isolated when NVDA is using IE or Edge as I am not having this in Chrome.
Here is my code for our HTML5 video player:
<video id="view-video" controls> src="#" type="#"> aria-hidden="true">Your browser does not support the video tag. </video>
Despite putting a with an aria-hidden=”true”, NVDA will still read “Your browser does not support the video tag.” while the video is loading. Once the video is loaded, it will play. For some reason when using IE, NVDA will not ignore that text. It does not read it when using Chrome nor does VoiceOver read it. Is this an old bug that didn;t get fully fixed. I remember an issue aria-hidden in NVDA 2014 but thought is was fixed in 2015.
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Re: NVA ignoring aria-hidden in IE 11 and Edge
Arlene
Well, I thought so. Cause I know ten has a few bugs here and there.
From: Gene [mailto:gsasner@...]
Sent: April-27-16 10:27 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVA ignoring aria-hidden in IE 11 and Edge
yes, since Edge is not available in any earlier versions of Windows.
Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Arlene Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2016 12:19 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] NVA ignoring aria-hidden in IE 11 and Edge
Hi, is this for windows ten?
From: grady.mcghee@... [mailto:grady.mcghee@...]
It appears to be isolated when NVDA is using IE or Edge as I am not having this in Chrome.
Here is my code for our HTML5 video player:
<video id="view-video" controls> <source src="#" type="#"> <span aria-hidden="true">Your browser does not support the video tag.</span> </video>
Despite putting a <span> with an aria-hidden=”true”, NVDA will still read “Your browser does not support the video tag.” while the video is loading. Once the video is loaded, it will play. For some reason when using IE, NVDA will not ignore that text. It does not read it when using Chrome nor does VoiceOver read it. Is this an old bug that didn;t get fully fixed. I remember an issue aria-hidden in NVDA 2014 but thought is was fixed in 2015.
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Re: NVA ignoring aria-hidden in IE 11 and Edge
Arlene
Yes, I’m using windows 7.
From: Gene [mailto:gsasner@...]
Sent: April-27-16 10:30 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVA ignoring aria-hidden in IE 11 and Edge
I should have said that I would expect that this is in Windows 10 because Edge is not available in earlier versions of Windows. It appears now that the problem may exist in Internet Explorer regardless of version of Windows. However, this has evidently not been tested in Windows 8.
Gene From: grady.mcghee@... Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2016 12:21 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] NVA ignoring aria-hidden in IE 11 and Edge
It was tested on Windows 7 at work and Widows 10 at home on computer.
On 04/27/16, Arlene<NEDSTER66@GMAIL.com></NEDSTER66@ wrote:
Hi, is this for windows ten?
From: grady.mcghee@... [mailto:grady.mcghee@...]
It appears to be isolated when NVDA is using IE or Edge as I am not having this in Chrome.
Here is my code for our HTML5 video player:
<video id="view-video" controls> src="#" type="#"> aria-hidden="true">Your browser does not support the video tag. </video>
Despite putting a with an aria-hidden=”true”, NVDA will still read “Your browser does not support the video tag.” while the video is loading. Once the video is loaded, it will play. For some reason when using IE, NVDA will not ignore that text. It does not read it when using Chrome nor does VoiceOver read it. Is this an old bug that didn;t get fully fixed. I remember an issue aria-hidden in NVDA 2014 but thought is was fixed in 2015.
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Re: NVA ignoring aria-hidden in IE 11 and Edge
Gene
I should have said that I would expect that this is
in Windows 10 because Edge is not available in earlier versions of
Windows. It appears now that the problem may exist in Internet Explorer
regardless of version of Windows.
However, this has evidently not been tested in Windows
8.
Gene
From: grady.mcghee@...
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2016 12:21 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVA ignoring aria-hidden in IE 11 and
Edge It was tested on Windows 7 at work and Widows 10 at home on
computer.
Hi, is this for windows ten?
From: grady.mcghee@... [mailto:grady.mcghee@...]
It appears to be isolated when NVDA is using IE or Edge as I am not having this in Chrome.
Here is my code for our HTML5 video player:
<video id="view-video" controls> src="#" type="#"> aria-hidden="true">Your browser does not support the video tag. </video>
Despite putting a with an aria-hidden=”true”, NVDA will still read “Your browser does not support the video tag.” while the video is loading. Once the video is loaded, it will play. For some reason when using IE, NVDA will not ignore that text. It does not read it when using Chrome nor does VoiceOver read it. Is this an old bug that didn;t get fully fixed. I remember an issue aria-hidden in NVDA 2014 but thought is was fixed in 2015.
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Re: NVA ignoring aria-hidden in IE 11 and Edge
Gene
yes, since Edge is not available in any earlier
versions of Windows.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Arlene
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2016 12:19 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVA ignoring aria-hidden in IE 11 and
Edge Hi, is this for windows ten?
From: grady.mcghee@...
[mailto:grady.mcghee@...]
It appears to be isolated when NVDA is using IE or Edge as I am not having this in Chrome.
Here is my code for our HTML5 video player:
<video id="view-video" controls> <source src="#" type="#"> <span aria-hidden="true">Your browser does not support the video tag.</span> </video>
Despite putting a <span> with an aria-hidden=”true”, NVDA will still read “Your browser does not support the video tag.” while the video is loading. Once the video is loaded, it will play. For some reason when using IE, NVDA will not ignore that text. It does not read it when using Chrome nor does VoiceOver read it. Is this an old bug that didn;t get fully fixed. I remember an issue aria-hidden in NVDA 2014 but thought is was fixed in 2015.
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Re: NVA ignoring aria-hidden in IE 11 and Edge
grady.mcghee@...
It was tested on Windows 7 at work and Widows 10 at home on computer.
On 04/27/16, Arlenecom> wrote:
Hi, is this for windows ten?
From: grady.mcghee@... [mailto:grady.mcghee@...]
It appears to be isolated when NVDA is using IE or Edge as I am not having this in Chrome.
Here is my code for our HTML5 video player:
<video id="view-video" controls> src="#" type="#"> aria-hidden="true">Your browser does not support the video tag. </video>
Despite putting a with an aria-hidden=”true”, NVDA will still read “Your browser does not support the video tag.” while the video is loading. Once the video is loaded, it will play. For some reason when using IE, NVDA will not ignore that text. It does not read it when using Chrome nor does VoiceOver read it. Is this an old bug that didn;t get fully fixed. I remember an issue aria-hidden in NVDA 2014 but thought is was fixed in 2015.
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Re: NVA ignoring aria-hidden in IE 11 and Edge
Arlene
Hi, is this for windows ten?
From: grady.mcghee@... [mailto:grady.mcghee@...]
It appears to be isolated when NVDA is using IE or Edge as I am not having this in Chrome.
Here is my code for our HTML5 video player:
<video id="view-video" controls> <source src="#" type="#"> <span aria-hidden="true">Your browser does not support the video tag.</span> </video>
Despite putting a <span> with an aria-hidden=”true”, NVDA will still read “Your browser does not support the video tag.” while the video is loading. Once the video is loaded, it will play. For some reason when using IE, NVDA will not ignore that text. It does not read it when using Chrome nor does VoiceOver read it. Is this an old bug that didn;t get fully fixed. I remember an issue aria-hidden in NVDA 2014 but thought is was fixed in 2015.
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Re: Changing from espeak?
Gene
No one said E-Speak would no longer be used.
List members were simply expressing their opinions concerning E-Speak and
whether it should be used..
Gene
From: Sharni-Lee Ward
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2016 11:20 AM
Subject: [nvda] Changing from espeak? Outlook being a pain (which eventually led to me getting Thunderbird just so I could access my emails). So, what's this about NVDA switching from espeak to something else? I love espeak! Certainly a great deal better than most synths I've heard, even the ones based on human voices! The inflection is wonderful and I'm so used to it...will I have to redo all my speech dictionaries? Will my ProTalker addon that I got so I could learn Japanese again still work with this alteration? I don't understand...
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Changing from espeak?
Sharni-Lee Ward
I've been out of the loop for a bit due to emails piling up and then
Outlook being a pain (which eventually led to me getting Thunderbird just so I could access my emails). So, what's this about NVDA switching from espeak to something else? I love espeak! Certainly a great deal better than most synths I've heard, even the ones based on human voices! The inflection is wonderful and I'm so used to it...will I have to redo all my speech dictionaries? Will my ProTalker addon that I got so I could learn Japanese again still work with this alteration? I don't understand...
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NVDACon 2016: Add-ons Festival audio archived, third and fourth day schedule
Ladies and gentlemen:
I’m delighted to announce that Add-ons Festival sessions audio are now available: · Joslee’s Add-on Party: http://www.nvda-kr.org/files/NVDACon_2016_Add-ons%20Festival%20(Joseph%20Lee).mp3 · Meet Derek’s Add-ons: http://www.nvda-kr.org/files/NVDACon_2016_Add-ons%20Festival%20(Derek%20Riemer).mp3 · Interactive lab on getting started with NVDA add-ons and Core development (led by Joseph Lee): http://www.nvda-kr.org/files/NVDACon_2016_NVDA%20Interactive%20Lab.mp3
Also, the third day of NVDACon will consist of: · NVDA 101 for users of other screen readers: 00:00 UTC on April 29, 2016 (5 PM Pacific on the 28th). · NVDA and math: 14:00 UTC (7 AM Pacific) on the 29th. · Lightning Talk II (NVDA communities and braille support): 17:00 UTC (10 AM Pacific) on April 29th. · NVDA 101 for beginners: 19:00 UTC (12 PM Pacific).
The last one will be a quickie as we need to prepare for the keynote presentation.
Fourth day: · Keynote presentation: 00:00 UTC on April 30th (5 PM Pacific on the 29th). · Closing forum and testimonials: 16:00 UTC (9 AM Pacific) on the 30th.
Attending at least the keynote session is strongly recommended. Also, we’re still accepting testimonials - please send them to nvdacon@groups.io. Info on schedule can be found at http://www.nvda-kr.org/en/nvdacon.php (when you do come to keynote, please use the Keynote Auditorium link provided on the website, and please arrive early).
See you at the second half of NVDACon, and enjoy the Add-ons Festival audio archive. Cheers, Joseph
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Re: NVDA Mouse Navigation on the Start Menu in Win10
Kostadin, Thank you very much. This will certainly fill the immediate need, and in a way better than what I was trying to do. That being said, I'd still like to know if something about what I was trying to get NVDA to do was being done incorrectly or if we have a bug here. Brian
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Re: NVDA Mouse Navigation on the Start Menu in Win10
Hello Brian, To remove a tile from the Start menu, press the Applications key for the context menu and from it choose "Unpin from Start". To move a tile around in the Start menu grid (the one on the right), use Alt+Shift+The Arrow Keys. There are probably other keyboard commands for the Start menu,
but I don't know them all. If you are interested, you might search
for "Keyboard commands in Windows 10" on the internet - that will
probably show a lot of useful results. ;) ______ На 27.4.2016 г. в 18:41, Brian Vogel
написа:
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NVDA Mouse Navigation on the Start Menu in Win10
I was just trying to get the step-by-step instructions put together to tell someone how to name or rename a group on the Start Menu, but NVDA is behaving erratically (unless I'm doing some thing wrong). I hit the WinKey to bring up the Start Menu, arrow down once then arrow right once to get myself on the "Life at a Glance" group, and this is announced. In order to change a group name, any group name, you must left click on that group name to throw focus in to the edit box for the group name. On my first try things went precisely as expected. I used NVDA+NumPad Divide to move the mouse to the current navigator object, which was the group name that NVDA had announced I'd landed on, then hit NumPad Divide to left click on it and was immediately thrown into the edit box for that group name. However, if I continue to move around through tiles and land on other Group Names I am getting behavior I can't explain as far as moving the mouse pointer to the current navigator object. I would presume, perhaps incorrectly, that the current navigator object is what NVDA announces to me that it's landed on and that I can see has a dashed outline box surrounding it that would indicate this is what has system focus, too. However, when I then try the NVDA+NumPad Divide to route the mouse cursor to current navigator object it often lands on another object altogether. I'm not quite sure what I'm doing wrong, if anything, and don't want to file a bug report unless I'm certain that I'm not doing anything wrong. If anyone has experience with manipulating the start menu with NVDA to do things like renaming groups, removing tiles, etc., could you tell me what I'm doing wrong here if anything? Brian
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[NVDA] Codefactery
Chris Shook <chris0309@...>
Hi,
I have a question regarding the Codefactory synthesizer for NVDA? If there is a problem with the synthesizer, how good is the technical support? I'm considering getting those voices in addition to the Acapela voices for NVDA. How good are the two when compared? Thanks Chris
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