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Re: skype going universal

 

I also use Skype, but didn't text a lot as most of my friends don't use it; instead I used Line on my iPhone and FB chat through the main Facebook site as those are what the majority of my friends use.


Re: Nvda on the applevis site while using firefox

Clare Page <clare.page@...>
 

Hi!
I read the AppleVis website nearly every day using the latest Firefox and
the latest NVDA and have never had the problems you describe. So I can't
think of any workarounds, I'm sorry to say! Interesting that we don't all
have problems reading text on that website, though!
Bye for now!
From Clare

-----Original Message-----
From: brandon [mailto:breedto@...]
Sent: vendredi 25 mars 2016 15:53
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Nvda on the applevis site while using firefox

Hello all,
I really hate asking this question.
But has anyone notice anything odd while using nvda on. The applevis site.
For example no spaces appearing. Between words in forum posts, app directory
entries, and more. I am using the latest version of firefox. Is there anyone
else. Facing this issue and if so have you found any work arounds for it.
Have a wonderful day.
Brandon,
Reed

Sent from my iPod


Help me doing this

Ajay Sharma
 

Hey guys,

Plz suggest a way out to,
1. Read text in command line, CMD.
2. Make NVDA read all the punctuation, while reading line by line or
during say all, I tried to set punctuation level to all, but it didn't
worked out.
3.
Alt + Ctrl + N shortcut is not working.

I am using win 10 Home and NVDA 16.1.

Thanks in advance!
Ajay


Re: Suggestion for upcoming NVDA build

 

hmmm snapshots are nightly builds, but I do aggree to some point I know there are softwares with options to update from the right channels.
Trouble is the only time we have betas and rc builds is just before release its not like they are in a big cycle.
As for snapshots, there is the master branch which is mostly stable and contains stuff for the next upcomming, experimental and then there are a couple below that.
Bar the master unless you are a dev I see no advantage tto users and it could give them issues.
I never download anything bar stable for myself.
It all depends though.
there was a tool called snapshot downloader but I don't know where it is or if it even works now.

On 26/03/2016 4:51 p.m., Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
I was just thinking how cool of a feature this would be, and I'd not think it would be terribly hard either to implement.

How hard would it be from the official build, like in this case, 2016.1, to put an option in the NVDA menu, maybe under Tools, that automatically like downloading updates would let the user download and install the latest snapshot build rather than them having to go out to the web site and manually get it. Either that, or maybe under the General tab of preferences, where you have the box to check or uncheck for checking for updates, maybe have another one that says download snapshot builds when updating.

What do you all think?
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Re: Any NVDA users using inbox.google.com

 

I agree inn theory as long as your client supports ssl or tls andd most of them if not all do it shouldn't matter.
I can remember when you had to buy ssl support and manualy email people that banned me from various sites and groups because I was blacklisted as a spammer.
I did ask if ssl was supported though this was when it was new, they didn't, yahoogroups was one such system.
They all support it now thank god but older clients that don't get updates to certifficates may have issues accessing things.

On 25/03/2016 11:22 p.m., Brian's Mail list account wrote:
Glad you feel that way. I guess its what you want it to be.
I still find any offline client much better as it cannot cchange at the
whim of the web site maker.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Chao" <kevinchao89@...>
To: <nvda@groups.io>
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 6:50 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Any NVDA users using inbox.google.com


Inbox by Gmail only has one view that is accessible with NVDA+Firefox. The
keyboard shortcuts, bundles, smart links/replies, etc. make it delightful
and efficient
On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 3:30 PM Ben J. Bloomgren <bbloomgren@...>
wrote:

Brian, Felix and all,

Does this Inbox make use of standard and basic HTML views?

Ben

On Mar 24, 2016, at 10:06, Brian's Mail list account <
bglists@...> wrote:

I am not sure what inbox in this context is. If you mean webmail
standard interface, then only under extreme conditions, as its not very
easy to work fast in my view, and seems to be a bit peculiar in the
sort of
default send formats it uses.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Armando" <braille.bt4753@...>
To: <nvda@groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 11:58 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Any NVDA users using inbox.google.com


No. I use Mozilla Thunderbird as my email client. I don't use
inbox.google.com/.

On 3/24/2016 5:17 AM, Felix G. wrote:
Hello list,
I also use Inbox, as I find it corresponds with how I think about
email, more like a living to-do list than electronic letters.
Kind regards,
Felix

On Wed, 23 Mar 2016 at 07:24 Ben J. Bloomgren <bbloomgren@...
<mailto:bbloomgren@...>> wrote:

I’m a mail client guy, but I’ll check it out. I like the
flexibility of email clients, and I have tended to look down on
webmail. I’ll check Inbox out though.

Thanks,

Ben

On Mar 22, 2016, at 7:39 PM, Kevin Chao <kevinchao89@...
<mailto:kevinchao89@...>> wrote:

For the longest, I've been using gmail.com <http://gmail.com/>
with Firefox+NVDA, but recently switched to inbox.google.com
<http://inbox.google.com/> .
Was curious to know if others have tried Inbox or are using it?
I really like the bundles, pinning, snoozing, smart-replies, and
smart links.







Re: skype going universal

 

Well I do use it and I like it.
There is no other way to chat without skype now.
And I am used to it, the desktop interface is mostly ok.
However according to ms skype support it will be a while before they quit using the thing.
I have heard that miranda can interface with skype, and if that is the case if it can run without skype I may try that, and also may uuse it instead.
The only big issue with skype is because I have so many capture devices, vertual and real mics and sound devices sometimes skype has issues finding the right device.
So then it will start, stop all sound and lock the system for 5 minutes while it tries to find out.
I got really angery at this a couple weeks back and thought that I'd just go and bash the computer or reformat it and then smash it but I went into the settings andd what do you know?
Every input device was set on a capture device which is part of a vertual recorder which isn't even supposed to be used and I was able to switch it to the right device and have it stay there by default and although I have updated it its never tried to scan again!

On 26/03/2016 4:30 p.m., Arlene wrote:
I don’t use it either. Joking! In case people use it. Skype is junk!

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian's Mail list account [mailto:bglists@...]
Sent: March-25-16 3:21 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] skype going universal

Seems a bit daft to cut any form of existing system that gives more people
access.
I hardly ever use Skype any more. Its about time that Apple released their
system so third party providors could add it to other platforms.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Shaun Everiss" <@smeveriss>
To: <nvda@groups.io>
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 5:58 AM
Subject: [nvda] skype going universal


Hi.
Forgot what list this origionally came on but someone was talking about an
app releasefor skype and the phasing out of desktop.
I did a chat with support, who told me that they were not even planning to
release the universal just yet and don't know when that will be.
I asked them to give us a classic interface with same keyboard layout and
no ribbons weather this changes things I don't know but at least I tried.








Re: and Chromium

 

chromium is google chrome with all the added stuff google chrome has.
In theory it should be more accessable than chrome without all the extra google stuff on it.

On 26/03/2016 5:06 a.m., Gene wrote:
Evidently, you are talking about Chromium, not Google Chrome. I doubt that meaningful work has been done either by the Chromium project nor by NVDA on this browser. The popular Google Chrome browser among sighted users is reasonably accessible but I don't expect Chromium, a browser that is not at all widely used and that a lot of people don't even know exists, to be worked on by NVDA developers who, frankly, have much much more important things to work on affecting a great many more users than a browser most people haven't even heard of.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Pete
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 10:51 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] and Chromium



Hi
I am trying out Chromium.
The version is below in the about page.
does any one have helpful advice using this browser?
I notice while down arrowing nvda stops announcing the menu items.
After the zoom item two down arrow are not spoken and again after
edit item another two down arrows are not spoken.
If up arrowing it doesn't do the same.
Tabbing around seems to work OK. Starting at the address bar, next
tab is bookmark button next tab is Chromium menu oops take that back
tabbing around now selects between tabs now along with going threw the
open page. I have not configured any thing in it yet so will explore
the other tabs. Does any one know the keys to close a tab / focused
window?
Thanks!
Pete
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Re: Weird desktop messages?

Gene
 

I wouldn't go through the trouble of changing that setting until others indicate Whether it makes any difference.  I'm not saying this is the case, but I am not at all sure that the details setting has anything to do with how the desktop displays.  I doubt it.  Details is a view setting for how files are displayed in the list of files and folders in Windows Explorer.  There is no such setting for the desktop and I would think that the setting doesn't apply.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 11:43 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Weird desktop messages?

sounds like you went to details view in a normal folder you only need to
hit view then list.
I'd open a folder on the desktop, go do a view/list, alt v then l and
then after that go to folder options and view then set folders to
current folder and see.
If that does not work hit the reset button to reset view, but you will
have to redo those options ofcause.



On 26/03/2016 2:18 p.m., Matt Turner wrote:
> Hi, when i go to the desktop, in windows 8 with the windows key+d, I get all
> this extra speech added  with my icons.
> For example, foobar2000; 1 KB; Shortcut; ‎3/‎19/‎2016 ‏‎5:17 PM.
> The tool tips, and help balloons are turned off in NVDA.
> I'm just thinking it's something i accidentally hit.
>
> .
>



Re: Weird desktop messages?

 

sounds like you went to details view in a normal folder you only need to hit view then list.
I'd open a folder on the desktop, go do a view/list, alt v then l and then after that go to folder options and view then set folders to current folder and see.
If that does not work hit the reset button to reset view, but you will have to redo those options ofcause.

On 26/03/2016 2:18 p.m., Matt Turner wrote:
Hi, when i go to the desktop, in windows 8 with the windows key+d, I get all
this extra speech added with my icons.
For example, foobar2000; 1 KB; Shortcut; ‎3/‎19/‎2016 ‏‎5:17 PM.
The tool tips, and help balloons are turned off in NVDA.
I'm just thinking it's something i accidentally hit.
.


Re: danger, danger nvda

 

Well, I have a multipul installs of dotnet from 3.5 to 4.6 here on 7 win10 has 5 and does not run other versions.
v3.5 works on v2, and v4 on v3 the latest dotnets should work as far back as 2.
As for visual c, they shouldn't conflict as such because certain programs need certain libraries.
Now, my only wish would be that windows does what linux does.
The libs don't take up that much space but even so.
I'd prefur say you install something or try to do something.\
Say I want to run x program but its missing y z dll.
Windows is unable to start this program because *.dll is not loaded please reinstall.
To avoid this I load just about every library I can to stop that error.
It happens with codecs.
If I am using linux, I type in something to install, it says this needs such and such component, do you want to install it or it tells you what to do.
I have often installed programs for ssh and a few things on linux, and got messages like this program is not installed, or this program is part of another install for servers, or in deed, unable to start because this thing is missing.
However in linux you can then install it because it basically tells you what to install.
If ms would do the same at least with its libs then we wouldn't have this issue better still with linux it tells you what is needed, what could be nice, what is not but if you need it it would be nice or simply whatever.
In windows, I have slim dx, java latest, klite codec, visual c 2005sp1 2008sp1 2010 2012 2013 2015 2016 and their 64 bit equivilants.
On the subject of python, both 3x and 2x are still supported 2.7x is the version a lot of stuff uses however its a good point a lot of stuff has moved on from the older releases.

On 26/03/2016 2:29 a.m., Pete wrote:

Hi
The proliferation of the famous Microsoft Visual C + + redistributable
packages is dangerous to nvva.
Windows loads multiple instances of the d l l s and not all instances
are the same version or even the correct version for a given program
causing untraceable bugs in nvda along with other programs like explorer
or the w10 file manager.
There doesn't seem to be backward compatibility say from visual c + +
2015 to earlier versions.
A second dangerous trend is the proliferation of multiple versions of
dot net frame work.
Again here no apparent backward compatibility seems to exists.
So one has his or her windows computer cluttered up with multiple
versions in most cases taking up hard drive real estate and causing
conflicts.
A lot of the nvda bugs possibly can be linked to miss matched
versions of d l l s being loaded by windows.
A third concern is the old version of python being used. If it's
time to upgrade from say visual c + + 2008 it should be time to update
to a newer version of python.
Shouldn't it?
Pete



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Re: Suggestion for upcoming NVDA build

Gene
 

I know you know what snapshots are.  But a lot of people don't. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 11:03 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Suggestion for upcoming NVDA build

I know what Snapshots are, Gene.  Smile.  Perhaps you have a point here.  I just figured it would make things possibly a bit more seemless.  Shruggs.  I guess not though.
 
Oh well, it was... worth me asking, I suppose.
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----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2016 12:02 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Suggestion for upcoming NVDA build

I don't think it makes sense to have NVDA download snapshot builds.  For one thing, many users may be confused or not know what a snapshot is.  Snapshots are not production code.  They are intended for testing and having to go to a web site to download snapshots indicates that the person doing so has enough knowledge to be aware, or to be reasonably be assumed to be aware, that this is test code and may not run well.  Test code should be kept separate from production code.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 10:51 PM
Subject: [nvda] Suggestion for upcoming NVDA build

I was just thinking how cool of a feature this would be, and I'd not think it would be terribly hard either to implement.
 
How hard would it be from the official build, like in this case, 2016.1, to put an option in the NVDA menu, maybe under Tools, that automatically like downloading updates would let the user download and install the latest snapshot build rather than them having to go out to the web site and manually get it.  Either that, or maybe under the General tab of preferences, where you have the box to check or uncheck for checking for updates, maybe have another one that says download snapshot builds when updating.
 
What do you all think?
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Re: Suggestion for upcoming NVDA build

Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
 


I know what Snapshots are, Gene.  Smile.  Perhaps you have a point here.  I just figured it would make things possibly a bit more seemless.  Shruggs.  I guess not though.
 
Oh well, it was... worth me asking, I suppose.
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----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2016 12:02 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Suggestion for upcoming NVDA build

I don't think it makes sense to have NVDA download snapshot builds.  For one thing, many users may be confused or not know what a snapshot is.  Snapshots are not production code.  They are intended for testing and having to go to a web site to download snapshots indicates that the person doing so has enough knowledge to be aware, or to be reasonably be assumed to be aware, that this is test code and may not run well.  Test code should be kept separate from production code.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 10:51 PM
Subject: [nvda] Suggestion for upcoming NVDA build

I was just thinking how cool of a feature this would be, and I'd not think it would be terribly hard either to implement.
 
How hard would it be from the official build, like in this case, 2016.1, to put an option in the NVDA menu, maybe under Tools, that automatically like downloading updates would let the user download and install the latest snapshot build rather than them having to go out to the web site and manually get it.  Either that, or maybe under the General tab of preferences, where you have the box to check or uncheck for checking for updates, maybe have another one that says download snapshot builds when updating.
 
What do you all think?
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Re: Suggestion for upcoming NVDA build

Gene
 

I don't think it makes sense to have NVDA download snapshot builds.  For one thing, many users may be confused or not know what a snapshot is.  Snapshots are not production code.  They are intended for testing and having to go to a web site to download snapshots indicates that the person doing so has enough knowledge to be aware, or to be reasonably be assumed to be aware, that this is test code and may not run well.  Test code should be kept separate from production code.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 10:51 PM
Subject: [nvda] Suggestion for upcoming NVDA build

I was just thinking how cool of a feature this would be, and I'd not think it would be terribly hard either to implement.
 
How hard would it be from the official build, like in this case, 2016.1, to put an option in the NVDA menu, maybe under Tools, that automatically like downloading updates would let the user download and install the latest snapshot build rather than them having to go out to the web site and manually get it.  Either that, or maybe under the General tab of preferences, where you have the box to check or uncheck for checking for updates, maybe have another one that says download snapshot builds when updating.
 
What do you all think?
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Re: Subgroup and moderator election poll results: subgroup proposal adopted, moderator election will not take place

Daniel Semro <semrodaniel@...>
 

I'd love to help be a moderator!

On 3/25/16, Joseph Lee <@joslee> wrote:
Hello everyone,



The subgroup and election poll is hereby closed.



The final tally:



* Subgroup proposal: 7 yes, 2 no (proposal adopted).

* Moderator election: 4 yes, 7 no (moderators will be chosen by
leaders).



So far, two people have shown interest in becoming the next associate
moderator (one who'll take my seat): Doug and Stuart. As for the procedure
to be used by Nimer, it'll be up to him. Nimer and I are still looking for
candidates.



Thank you.

Cheers,

Joseph


Suggestion for upcoming NVDA build

Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
 


I was just thinking how cool of a feature this would be, and I'd not think it would be terribly hard either to implement.
 
How hard would it be from the official build, like in this case, 2016.1, to put an option in the NVDA menu, maybe under Tools, that automatically like downloading updates would let the user download and install the latest snapshot build rather than them having to go out to the web site and manually get it.  Either that, or maybe under the General tab of preferences, where you have the box to check or uncheck for checking for updates, maybe have another one that says download snapshot builds when updating.
 
What do you all think?
---
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Re: skype going universal

Arlene
 

I don’t use it either. Joking! In case people use it. Skype is junk!

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian's Mail list account [mailto:bglists@...]
Sent: March-25-16 3:21 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] skype going universal

Seems a bit daft to cut any form of existing system that gives more people
access.
I hardly ever use Skype any more. Its about time that Apple released their
system so third party providors could add it to other platforms.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Shaun Everiss" <@smeveriss>
To: <nvda@groups.io>
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 5:58 AM
Subject: [nvda] skype going universal


Hi.
Forgot what list this origionally came on but someone was talking about an
app releasefor skype and the phasing out of desktop.
I did a chat with support, who told me that they were not even planning to
release the universal just yet and don't know when that will be.
I asked them to give us a classic interface with same keyboard layout and
no ribbons weather this changes things I don't know but at least I tried.



Re: Freelists archive freeze

Arlene
 

Hi, I left Freelists after Josiph said he was moving the NVDA list. I left after I joined this new list.

 

From: Joseph Lee [mailto:joseph.lee22590@...]
Sent: March-25-16 5:18 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Freelists archive freeze

 

Hi,

Ah, that’s because the former list wasn’t set to announce-only list yet (that’s coming next week).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: Supanut Leepaisomboon [mailto:supanut2000@...]
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 5:16 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Freelists archive freeze

 

Yes I know that, but I wonder why there are still new messages being posted on Freelists version of the forum?


Re: Weird desktop messages?

Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
 


Wonderful.  Thank you for your quick response.  It's appreciated.
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 9:27 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Weird desktop messages?

Control+Shift+6

On 3/25/2016 9:24 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
Lino,
 
Is there by chance a command which will do the same thing as ctrl+Shift+5, only that will activate Detail?
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 9:19 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Weird desktop messages?

You are in the details view. Hit CTRL shift 5 for list.

On 3/25/2016 9:18 PM, Matt Turner wrote:
Hi, when i go to the desktop, in windows 8 with the windows key+d, I get all this extra speech added  with my icons.
For example, foobar2000; 1 KB; Shortcut; ‎3/‎19/‎2016 ‏‎5:17 PM.
The tool tips, and help balloons are turned off in NVDA.
I'm just thinking it's something i accidentally hit.



Re: Weird desktop messages?

Tyler Spivey
 

Thanks for this. I didn't know you could do that on the desktop. It's
not in the context menus, even when everything is unselected with
control+space.
It also seems that, testing briefly, list has one entry per line
vertically instead of the grid when in icon view.

On 3/25/2016 6:27 PM, Matt Turner wrote:
Control+Shift+6

On 3/25/2016 9:24 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
Lino,

Is there by chance a command which will do the same thing as
ctrl+Shift+5, only that will activate Detail?
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----- Original Message -----
*From:* Lino Morales <mailto:linomorales001@...>
*To:* <mailto:nvda@groups.io>nvda@groups.io
*Sent:* Friday, March 25, 2016 9:19 PM
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Weird desktop messages?

You are in the details view. Hit CTRL shift 5 for list.

On 3/25/2016 9:18 PM, Matt Turner wrote:
Hi, when i go to the desktop, in windows 8 with the windows
key+d, I get all this extra speech added with my icons.
For example, foobar2000; 1 KB; Shortcut; ‎3/‎19/‎2016 ‏‎5:17 PM.
The tool tips, and help balloons are turned off in NVDA.
I'm just thinking it's something i accidentally hit.


Re: Latest Weather Add On Not Working For last 24 hours

Ben J. Bloomgren
 

Ron and all,

I thought that it was my Internet connection. I haven't tried since I rebooted, but I will keep this in mind. I love weather plus. I would hate to see it go the way of Moxier world.

Ben

On Mar 25, 2016, at 08:46, Ron Canazzi <aa2vm@...> wrote:

Hi Group,

Has anyone noticed that the Weather Add on (the more sophisticated one) is not working for the past 24 hours?

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