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Re: Weird desktop messages?

Matt Turner
 

Control+Shift+6

On 3/25/2016 9:24 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
Lino,
 
Is there by chance a command which will do the same thing as ctrl+Shift+5, only that will activate Detail?
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JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.
 
clgilland07@...
Phone: (704) 256-8010 Extension 401.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 9:19 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Weird desktop messages?

You are in the details view. Hit CTRL shift 5 for list.

On 3/25/2016 9:18 PM, Matt Turner wrote:
Hi, when i go to the desktop, in windows 8 with the windows key+d, I get all this extra speech added  with my icons.
For example, foobar2000; 1 KB; Shortcut; ‎3/‎19/‎2016 ‏‎5:17 PM.
The tool tips, and help balloons are turned off in NVDA.
I'm just thinking it's something i accidentally hit.



Re: Weird desktop messages?

Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
 


Lino,
 
Is there by chance a command which will do the same thing as ctrl+Shift+5, only that will activate Detail?
---
Christopher Gilland
JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.
 
clgilland07@...
Phone: (704) 256-8010 Extension 401.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 9:19 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Weird desktop messages?

You are in the details view. Hit CTRL shift 5 for list.

On 3/25/2016 9:18 PM, Matt Turner wrote:
Hi, when i go to the desktop, in windows 8 with the windows key+d, I get all this extra speech added  with my icons.
For example, foobar2000; 1 KB; Shortcut; ‎3/‎19/‎2016 ‏‎5:17 PM.
The tool tips, and help balloons are turned off in NVDA.
I'm just thinking it's something i accidentally hit.


Re: Weird desktop messages?

Matt Turner
 

Yep, that fix it. Thanks for that.

On 3/25/2016 9:19 PM, Lino Morales wrote:
You are in the details view. Hit CTRL shift 5 for list.

On 3/25/2016 9:18 PM, Matt Turner wrote:
Hi, when i go to the desktop, in windows 8 with the windows key+d, I get all this extra speech added  with my icons.
For example, foobar2000; 1 KB; Shortcut; ‎3/‎19/‎2016 ‏‎5:17 PM.
The tool tips, and help balloons are turned off in NVDA.
I'm just thinking it's something i accidentally hit.



Re: Weird desktop messages?

Lino Morales
 

You are in the details view. Hit CTRL shift 5 for list.

On 3/25/2016 9:18 PM, Matt Turner wrote:
Hi, when i go to the desktop, in windows 8 with the windows key+d, I get all this extra speech added  with my icons.
For example, foobar2000; 1 KB; Shortcut; ‎3/‎19/‎2016 ‏‎5:17 PM.
The tool tips, and help balloons are turned off in NVDA.
I'm just thinking it's something i accidentally hit.


Weird desktop messages?

Matt Turner
 

Hi, when i go to the desktop, in windows 8 with the windows key+d, I get all this extra speech added  with my icons.
For example, foobar2000; 1 KB; Shortcut; ‎3/‎19/‎2016 ‏‎5:17 PM.
The tool tips, and help balloons are turned off in NVDA.
I'm just thinking it's something i accidentally hit.


Subgroup and moderator election poll results: subgroup proposal adopted, moderator election will not take place

 

Hello everyone,

 

The subgroup and election poll is hereby closed.

 

The final tally:

 

·         Subgroup proposal: 7 yes, 2 no (proposal adopted).

·         Moderator election: 4 yes, 7 no (moderators will be chosen by leaders).

 

So far, two people have shown interest in becoming the next associate moderator (one who’ll take my seat): Doug and Stuart. As for the procedure to be used by Nimer, it’ll be up to him. Nimer and I are still looking for candidates.

 

Thank you.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: Freelists archive freeze

 

Ah, I see. Thanks for the clarification.


Re: Freelists archive freeze

 

Hi,

Ah, that’s because the former list wasn’t set to announce-only list yet (that’s coming next week).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: Supanut Leepaisomboon [mailto:supanut2000@...]
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 5:16 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Freelists archive freeze

 

Yes I know that, but I wonder why there are still new messages being posted on Freelists version of the forum?


Re: Freelists archive freeze

 

Yes I know that, but I wonder why there are still new messages being posted on Freelists version of the forum?


Creating Start page in the Edge?

Lisa P Geibel
 

Hi,
We're happily using Windows 10 with NVDA and even use the Edge browser some. Can we set up a start page of our choice or is that inaccessible for us? If we can, please tell me how? Thanks.

Sent from Lisa's iPhone6


Re: prevent pages from refreshing

Gene
 

I don't know what Cobra is.  I can say that in Firefox, there is a setting to stop the browser from refreshing.  I don't know what effect the setting has on structures such as carousels.  Nor do I know if what is going on has the same or a similar cause because I don't know what is being described as refreshing in today's message. 
 
If you use firefox, in the main window, press alt, then press t, wait a moment then o.
Tab once after waiting a moment.
down arrow to advanced.
If you get stuck partway down the list, up arrow then continue down again to get you unstuck.
Once you get to advanced, start tabbing.  You will see a check box about notifying you if Firefox is being redirected or refreshing a page.  That isn't the exact wording but it's there and my description should allow you to kno it.  Check the check box.  There is no ok button.  Continue using firefox now.  Or close it if you wish. 
 
You may find that you get one such message when a page wants to do something and nothing more during that session of working on the page. You don't have to worry about closing such messages.  They don't block anything and will be replaced automaticaally with future messages. 
 
As far as commercial screen-readers are concerned, while they have features to stop refreshes, I don't know if they work in all cases.  I have found times in the past when the JAWS feature didn't work when confronted by some kinds of page refreshes.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Mallard
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 2:07 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] prevent pages from refreshing


Hello Davy,

I started this topic more than once, and even last week or ten days ago.
I was told that "I was describing a way Firefox behaves on my machine",
and that if this had been a problem for more people than myself, there
would be ah uge number of messages on this (or soemthing to that ilk).

Clearly, this is an issue that NVDA should find a way of solving, one
way or another. This constant refiesching of webpages is nnoying, and
prevents one from working correctly.

Other screen readers have a way of blocking this, so it MUST be possible.

I'd hate to have to go back to commercial screen readers because of this
issue, because more and moe web pages seem to be employing this horrible
technology (Carousels, or whatever they call them).

Thanks for beinging this up again.
Hopefully, since there are now tro of us, someone will take a minute to
look into this.
Ciao,
Ollie



Il 25/03/2016 17:34, Davy Cuppens ha scritto:
> Hi folks
> Is there a way in nvda that one can prevent pages from being
> constantly refreshed? In my professional sr Cobra I have a shortcut s
> in virtual mode so that pags become static and focus won’t jump to the
> front of it.
> Regards
> Davy
>





Re: prevent pages from refreshing

Mallard
 

Hello Davy,

I started this topic more than once, and even last week or ten days ago. I was told that "I was describing a way Firefox behaves on my machine", and that if this had been a problem for more people than myself, there would be ah uge number of messages on this (or soemthing to that ilk).

Clearly, this is an issue that NVDA should find a way of solving, one way or another. This constant refiesching of webpages is nnoying, and prevents one from working correctly.

Other screen readers have a way of blocking this, so it MUST be possible.

I'd hate to have to go back to commercial screen readers because of this issue, because more and moe web pages seem to be employing this horrible technology (Carousels, or whatever they call them).

Thanks for beinging this up again.
Hopefully, since there are now tro of us, someone will take a minute to look into this.
Ciao,
Ollie

Il 25/03/2016 17:34, Davy Cuppens ha scritto:
Hi folks
Is there a way in nvda that one can prevent pages from being constantly refreshed? In my professional sr Cobra I have a shortcut s in virtual mode so that pags become static and focus won’t jump to the front of it.
Regards
Davy


Re: Freelists archive freeze

 

Hi,

Yes, Freelists list has entered archive freeze (not Groups.IO).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: Supanut Leepaisomboon [mailto:supanut2000@...]
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 7:57 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Freelists archive freeze

 

Hi, sorry if this sounds off-topic...

Since the announcement of archive freeze on Freelists, I wonder why I still see new messages on the list (I actually subscribed to that forum's RSS feeds, so they showed up in Firefox's live bookmark)? The last message I saw was yesterday...the archive freeze announcement that I read on here was posted 6 days ago or so.


Re: The danger at the moment of this moderation thread.

 

Hi,

The NVDA-devel list is still active – you might be thinking about Trac.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: V Stuart Foote [mailto:vstuart.foote@...]
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 9:11 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] The danger at the moment of this moderation thread.

 

On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 04:58 am, Pete <emac00@...> wrote:

 
  Hi 
  I joined the nvda devel list to hear about people discussing nvda's scripting and how people were using python to script access to windows / programs so learning nvda scripting would be easier. 
  I may be the only one to notice.  This list has had a name change from nvda devel to nvda.  Are we to assume now all things nvda are to be discuss here?  I thought there was / is a separate nvda users list for discussing nvda's functioning with programs like Firefox, Google chrome, UN branded chrome, internet explorer, outlook and so on... 
  Or is there? 
  Pete 

 

 

@Pete, *

Sorry, but you seem not to realize that this ML continues to function as the NVDA User support list, as migrated here to Groups.io from Freelists.org hosting.

 

NVAccess shut down the NVDA development mail list some time ago for spam and abuse issues, and shifted to issue tracking provided with the github hosing of the code base.

If you are really interested in NVDA Development, that resides on github where you can subscribe and follow issues.

Follow this link:  https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues

 

Folks here will have only a passing interest in development issues as they affect use and implementation of NVDA. It is primarily a user forum, not development.

 

Stuart


Re: and Chromium

Pete <emac00@...>
 

 
  Hi  Gene 
  There is no point continuing this verbal sparing.  It's there you must have missed it. 
  Pete 

On 3/25/2016 1:28 PM, Gene wrote:
Since you neither quote previous messages nor indicate in any way whom or what you are responding to, I shall assume it is to me.  What do either of your statements have to do with what I said?  The google Chrome designers have worked on accessibility.  That doesn't mean the Chromium team has or has to nearly the same extent.  Google Chrome is Google's version of the chrome browser and if it derived from Chromium originally, that is irrelevant.  It is a separate branch of the browser.  I believe Canary is Google's more or less alpha version of its version of the browser and,  again, it is Google's version of the browser. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Pete
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 12:06 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] and Chromium

 
    Hi 
 
  evidently 
 
  The subject line says it all. 
 
Write: Re: [nvda] and Chromium
 
  Google chrome is based on Chromium. 
  So with out Chromium  Google Chrome would not exist. 
  There is also a Canary version of Chromium available. 
  Again with out Chromium Canary Google Chrome Canary would not exist. 
  There is a Chromium OS as well. 
  You can read more about Chromium and Chromium OS on the Chromium web site. 
  Pete 
 











On 3/25/2016 12:06 PM, Gene wrote:
Evidently, you are talking about Chromium, not Google Chrome.  I doubt that meaningful work has been done either by the Chromium project nor by NVDA on this browser.  The popular Google Chrome browser among sighted users is reasonably accessible but I don't expect Chromium, a browser that is not at all widely used and that a lot of people don't even know exists, to be worked on by NVDA developers who, frankly, have much much more important things to work on affecting a great many more users than a browser most people haven't even heard of.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Pete
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 10:51 AM
Subject: [nvda] and Chromium


   Hi
   I am trying out Chromium.
   The version is below in the about page.
   does any one have helpful advice using this browser?
   I notice while down arrowing nvda stops announcing the menu items.
   After the zoom item two down arrow are not spoken and again after
edit item another two down arrows are not spoken.
   If up arrowing it doesn't do the same.
   Tabbing around  seems to work OK.  Starting at the address bar, next
tab is bookmark button next tab is Chromium menu oops take that back
tabbing around now selects between tabs now along with going threw the
open page.  I have not configured any thing in it yet so will explore
the other tabs.  Does any one know the keys to close a tab / focused
window?
   Thanks!
   Pete
About
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Get help with using Chromium
Version 51.0.2684.0
Chromium
Copyright 2016 The Chromium Authors. All rights reserved.
Chromium is made possible by the Chromium open source project and other
open source software.





Re: and Chromium

Gene
 

Google Chrome, as I recall, by default, shows many pages you have recently gone to.  I don't recall if those pages are actually opened or just shown as items you can open.  I set Google Chrome not to show any of them when Chrome opens. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Pete
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 12:14 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] and Chromium

 
  4 tabs are showing when I tab threw the program window.  I tab past all that and am in a web page with links.  So I think the web page I want to close has focus and I do control + w to close it and the browser closes. 
  It might be the only window open thanks. 
  Do you know if chrome or chromium has a set of default tabs that remain open? 
  I think the 4 tabs I am going threw might be pinned there, not sure now. 
 
On 3/25/2016 12:27 PM, Gene wrote:
How many tabs or windows are opened when you issue the command? 
If only one tab or window is opened, that command will close the browser because you are closing the only opened window.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Pete
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 11:18 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] and Chromium

 
  Thanks, but it closes the whole browser. 
  Might be I don't have the correct focus. 
Pete 


On 3/25/2016 11:55 AM, Kevin Chao wrote:
Ctrl+w
On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 8:51 AM Pete <emac00@...> wrote:

   Hi
   I am trying out Chromium.
   The version is below in the about page.
   does any one have helpful advice using this browser?
   I notice while down arrowing nvda stops announcing the menu items.
   After the zoom item two down arrow are not spoken and again after
edit item another two down arrows are not spoken.
   If up arrowing it doesn't do the same.
   Tabbing around  seems to work OK.  Starting at the address bar, next
tab is bookmark button next tab is Chromium menu oops take that back
tabbing around now selects between tabs now along with going threw the
open page.  I have not configured any thing in it yet so will explore
the other tabs.  Does any one know the keys to close a tab / focused
window?
   Thanks!
   Pete
About
Chromium
A web browser built for speed, simplicity, and security
Get help with using Chromium
Version 51.0.2684.0
Chromium
Copyright 2016 The Chromium Authors. All rights reserved.
Chromium is made possible by the Chromium open source project and other
open source software.






Re: Latest Weather Add On Not Working For last 24 hours

Bryan Mckinnish
 

Hi.
I noticed that as well.
I even uninstalled it and reinstalled it and it worked for a couple trys, and later it quit again.

On 3/25/2016 11:46 AM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Group,

Has anyone noticed that the Weather Add on (the more sophisticated one) is not working for the past 24 hours?


Re: and Chromium

Gene
 

Since you neither quote previous messages nor indicate in any way whom or what you are responding to, I shall assume it is to me.  What do either of your statements have to do with what I said?  The google Chrome designers have worked on accessibility.  That doesn't mean the Chromium team has or has to nearly the same extent.  Google Chrome is Google's version of the chrome browser and if it derived from Chromium originally, that is irrelevant.  It is a separate branch of the browser.  I believe Canary is Google's more or less alpha version of its version of the browser and,  again, it is Google's version of the browser. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Pete
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 12:06 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] and Chromium

 
    Hi 
 
  evidently 
 
  The subject line says it all. 
 
Write: Re: [nvda] and Chromium
 
  Google chrome is based on Chromium. 
  So with out Chromium  Google Chrome would not exist. 
  There is also a Canary version of Chromium available. 
  Again with out Chromium Canary Google Chrome Canary would not exist. 
  There is a Chromium OS as well. 
  You can read more about Chromium and Chromium OS on the Chromium web site. 
  Pete 
 











On 3/25/2016 12:06 PM, Gene wrote:
Evidently, you are talking about Chromium, not Google Chrome.  I doubt that meaningful work has been done either by the Chromium project nor by NVDA on this browser.  The popular Google Chrome browser among sighted users is reasonably accessible but I don't expect Chromium, a browser that is not at all widely used and that a lot of people don't even know exists, to be worked on by NVDA developers who, frankly, have much much more important things to work on affecting a great many more users than a browser most people haven't even heard of.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Pete
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 10:51 AM
Subject: [nvda] and Chromium


   Hi
   I am trying out Chromium.
   The version is below in the about page.
   does any one have helpful advice using this browser?
   I notice while down arrowing nvda stops announcing the menu items.
   After the zoom item two down arrow are not spoken and again after
edit item another two down arrows are not spoken.
   If up arrowing it doesn't do the same.
   Tabbing around  seems to work OK.  Starting at the address bar, next
tab is bookmark button next tab is Chromium menu oops take that back
tabbing around now selects between tabs now along with going threw the
open page.  I have not configured any thing in it yet so will explore
the other tabs.  Does any one know the keys to close a tab / focused
window?
   Thanks!
   Pete
About
Chromium
A web browser built for speed, simplicity, and security
Get help with using Chromium
Version 51.0.2684.0
Chromium
Copyright 2016 The Chromium Authors. All rights reserved.
Chromium is made possible by the Chromium open source project and other
open source software.




Re: The danger at the moment of this moderation thread.

Pete <emac00@...>
 

 
  Hi 
 
  My bad,  I didn't think it was a merger of two or more lists.  I thought the announcement was the list was moving over to groups.io.  I wasn't aware it was being merged.  Again my bad. 
  I will consider joining / signing up with git hub. 
  Thanks for the link! 
  Pete 


On 3/25/2016 12:11 PM, V Stuart Foote wrote:
On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 04:58 am, Pete <emac00@...> wrote:

 
  Hi 
  I joined the nvda devel list to hear about people discussing nvda's scripting and how people were using python to script access to windows / programs so learning nvda scripting would be easier. 
  I may be the only one to notice.  This list has had a name change from nvda devel to nvda.  Are we to assume now all things nvda are to be discuss here?  I thought there was / is a separate nvda users list for discussing nvda's functioning with programs like Firefox, Google chrome, UN branded chrome, internet explorer, outlook and so on... 
  Or is there? 
  Pete 



@Pete, *

Sorry, but you seem not to realize that this ML continues to function as the NVDA User support list, as migrated here to Groups.io from Freelists.org hosting.


NVAccess shut down the NVDA development mail list some time ago for spam and abuse issues, and shifted to issue tracking provided with the github hosing of the code base.

If you are really interested in NVDA Development, that resides on github where you can subscribe and follow issues.

Follow this link:  https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues


Folks here will have only a passing interest in development issues as they affect use and implementation of NVDA. It is primarily a user forum, not development.


Stuart



Re: Latest Weather Add On Not Working For last 24 hours

Christo de Klerk
 

Yes, I have also noticed it.

Regards

Christo

On 2016/03/25 5:46 PM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Group,

Has anyone noticed that the Weather Add on (the more sophisticated one) is not working for the past 24 hours?