it does if nvda crashed. just hit space on the first version it should kill it hope this helps.

On 10/06/2016 20:01, Roger Stewart wrote:

Why do I suddenly have 2 instances of nvda in my system tray? Wonder
which one I can kill? I was using my installed version and I closed
that one down to start my portable install to test something. Don't
know if this caused it, but this shouldn't be happening.


Roger

Why do I suddenly have 2 instances of nvda in my system tray? Wonder
which one I can kill? I was using my installed version and I closed
that one down to start my portable install to test something. Don't
know if this caused it, but this shouldn't be happening.


Roger

Hi all,

For those using NVDA 2016.2 (or RC1): if you use Microsoft Word, please grab NVDA 2016.2.1, as it fixes Word crashing issue with loss of grammar error announcement as a sacrifice. The new release from NV Access can be found at:

http://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2016-2-1-update-now-available/

Cheers,

Joseph

No problems on my side. I think the important thing is that you do
things correctly. If they say to create a support ticket for you to
get the best help, then start that way, they will skype you in time if
you have on going problems.They even once reset my activation for my
SAPI eloquence.

On 09/06/2016, Chris Shook <chris0309@samobile.net> wrote:

Aidan,
How is the product compared to the other Vocalizer? Hhave you had any
trouble with tech support at all.
Chris

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Oh okay. so if you don’t want to update. You really don’t have to?

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Andre
Fisher
Sent: June-10-16 8:44 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] 2016.2.1?

The grammar reporting support is gone entirely from this release. Such
a pity. There are no more bug fixes nor changes otherwise. I got the
update this morning and was shocked. a YYYY.X.x version of NVDA is
scarce these days.

On 6/10/16, Roger Stewart <paganus2@gmail.com> wrote:

So what is the real difference with this one? Is the only thing that
the grammar correction is turned off and that only effects Word in
Office? If so, then it won't effect me in any way as I don't have these
programs and just use Word Pad and that does all I need for now. If
there are any other improvements or bug fixes, then I'll gladly get this
new update. I didn't get any notice that there was an update when I
turned it on this morning though.


Thanks.


Roger

Aidan,
How is the product compared to the other Vocalizer? Hhave you had any
trouble with tech support at all.
Chris

So what is the real difference with this one? Is the only thing that
the grammar correction is turned off and that only effects Word in
Office? If so, then it won't effect me in any way as I don't have these
programs and just use Word Pad and that does all I need for now. If
there are any other improvements or bug fixes, then I'll gladly get this
new update. I didn't get any notice that there was an update when I
turned it on this morning though.


Thanks.


Roger

hi.
i read the whats new and the only change are for supporting of
microsoft office word and resolving the critical crashes in using word
in different versions and specially in using windows xp!
i am realy glad if someone guide me is there any change in the quality
of espeak ng in this version?
thanks so much and god bless you all!

On 6/10/16, Andre Fisher <andrefisher729@gmail.com> wrote:

The grammar reporting support is gone entirely from this release. Such
a pity. There are no more bug fixes nor changes otherwise. I got the
update this morning and was shocked. a YYYY.X.x version of NVDA is
scarce these days.

On 6/10/16, Roger Stewart <paganus2@gmail.com> wrote:

So what is the real difference with this one? Is the only thing that
the grammar correction is turned off and that only effects Word in
Office? If so, then it won't effect me in any way as I don't have these
programs and just use Word Pad and that does all I need for now. If
there are any other improvements or bug fixes, then I'll gladly get this
new update. I didn't get any notice that there was an update when I
turned it on this morning though.


Thanks.


Roger

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and makes unlawful to them impure things, and removes from them their
burden and the shackles which were upon them; so [as for] those who
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has been sent down with him, these it is that are the successful.
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http://www.infosound.org.uk/audio.html


Down near the bottom after the audio files is anarea of text. Part way through this it sounds like the nvda detects an edit area, but its just the sound, its still just text.
I was told by the site owner this text is scrollable by mouse users. I assume then that its a bit like an over sized read only combo box or something, but its not too bad in Firefox but in IE it seems that one can get stuck in it even if you set the options in nvda so it automatically should come out as you go down the page.
Has the author done something strange or is it nvda?
The guy is obviously interested in any ideas as its a simple site for blind and sighted users. I don't see why he does not just put the text in the same way as other text, but I suspect its supposed to be like a window onto a bit of news. If that is so, I feel maybe it might be better at the top logically wise, not part way down.
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The grammar reporting support is gone entirely from this release. Such
a pity. There are no more bug fixes nor changes otherwise. I got the
update this morning and was shocked. a YYYY.X.x version of NVDA is
scarce these days.

On 6/10/16, Roger Stewart <paganus2@gmail.com> wrote:

So what is the real difference with this one? Is the only thing that
the grammar correction is turned off and that only effects Word in
Office? If so, then it won't effect me in any way as I don't have these
programs and just use Word Pad and that does all I need for now. If
there are any other improvements or bug fixes, then I'll gladly get this
new update. I didn't get any notice that there was an update when I
turned it on this morning though.


Thanks.


Roger

So what is the real difference with this one? Is the only thing that
the grammar correction is turned off and that only effects Word in
Office? If so, then it won't effect me in any way as I don't have these
programs and just use Word Pad and that does all I need for now. If
there are any other improvements or bug fixes, then I'll gladly get this
new update. I didn't get any notice that there was an update when I
turned it on this morning though.


Thanks.


Roger

... How even ... I checked the Rate boost box with rate at 30%and everything
started talking so fast I could barely make out the words. I don't think I
could ever, ever read and comprehend a document at that pace. How does Jamie
do it...?

On 10/06/2016 9:32 PM, Kevin Cussick via Groups.io wrote:
respect, I used to be able to use espeak at 30% with the rate boost on but
I have used vocaliser for some years now and I am now trying espeak again,
I am running at 85% with no boost at this time at some point might be able
to run with the speech boost on.

On 10/06/2016 12:28, Bhavya shah wrote:
Hi all,
Just quickly chiming in - I am using ESpeak NG very comfortably and
alike ESpeak with the following voice configurations:
Variants: Steph/Steph_test 1/Steph 2/Steph 3 (mostly similar)
Speech Rate: 40% with rate boost enabled, though I prefer reading
important or academic notes at 30% with rate boost enabled, but can go
up to 50% or so in places (such as a fast paced game) with whose text
messages I am acquainted or familiar to some extent already, or if
necessary
Pitch: 40
Inflection: 50
I first heard ESpeak's Max variant voice close to three years ago, and
began using it and NVDA full time almost two years ago, and my above
speech settings have been going on since a year perhaps. I hope to
build my listening speed too to compete with Jamie and others at some
point in time in the future, as Jamie uses ESpeak's Max at 55% with
rate boost enabled always, as I am informed through some of his public
interviews/podcasts. :D grin
Back to the topic though, I have found not even the subtlest of
annoyances with ESpeak NG, perhaps I find it a tad bit more
responsive, could be a misconception though, as ESpeak already was
incredibly responsive.
Thanks.

On 6/10/16, Pete <emac00@cogeco.ca><mailto:emac00@cogeco.ca> wrote:

My first experience with a screen reader and a synthesizer was with
the apple 2 c running dos 3.3 and using textalker screenreader with an
echo synthesizer. The echo synth was fast enough at the time. The next
computer was a x t clone with 570 k ram and 40 megibite hard drive using
an old speech master board with some scripts to read things on the
screen. Clunky and slow. It was using dos. Next windows 95 came along
and I used webspeak in it for a while along with tinytalk and seekline
in dos with nettamer. Things got better with an old accent p c i s a
synth I was given and started using provox in dos.

Pete


On 6/10/2016 6:56 AM, Lenron wrote:
I can maybe understand nvda reading at 85 or 90 don't mean I wish to
read that fast. I normally keep it in the 70 to 75 range. ESpeak
sounds horrible to me.

On 6/10/16, Pete <emac00@cogeco.ca><mailto:emac00@cogeco.ca> wrote:
Hi Sukil

ok, I hear the anoying sound with rate set to 100%. It goes away
set
to 99% and below. Again the anoying sound starts with rate boost box
checked at 19% and goes away at 18% and below. The anoying sound is
there all the way up from it's starting point at 19% with rate boost box
checked, well atleast up to 70%. I am not sure abuv 70% with check box
checked, I can't process beyond that point. It sounds like it's still
there. I am stuck using nvda with espeak set to about 40% with rate
boost checked now. I feal like my computer is running on malassis.

The nvda settings are default except for the rate boost and the rate
set high.

That would be greatly appriciated your filing this on github!

Thanks Pete

On 6/10/2016 4:43 AM, Sukil Etxenike via Groups.io wrote:
Hi Pete,

I'd suggest the same thing I suggested before. That is, file an issue
at
<http:///github.com/espeak-ng/espeak-ng/issues><http:///github.com/espeak-ng/espeak-ng/issues>.
If you don't have
an account on GitHub, I can do it for you.

Please describe the error in detail, as I use the same version of
eSpeak (with occassionally the English voice) with rate set to 30 or
40 with rate boost and I find no problems. Or perhaps I missunderstood
you, and you use different parameteres.


RegardsSukil



El 09/06/2016 a las 13:12, Pete escribió:
hi

I all ways used the default nvda max english voice, I am
disappointed in the changes made to espeak in nvda I think starting
with nvda 2015 or may be as far back as 2014. Were the changes made
to espeak by nvda devel or the creator of espeak. I would like a
choice in nvda setup to be able to pick witch espeak to install. I
feal the need for speed quite freequently and to have that fluttering
sound in there when the check box for rate boost is checked so I can
get up to a 600 to 800 words per min is disruptive. I am still
trying to get used to it.

Pete

On 6/8/2016 1:43 PM, nasrin khaksar wrote:
hi.
i use iven3 which is the best voice and also with default rate of
nvda
which is 30!
its very perfect for me.

On 6/7/16, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@gmail.com><mailto:sm.everiss@gmail.com>
wrote:
I have replaced the data from old espeak over and the syntth works
a lot
better one person had trouble however, espeak at least the word
stuff
works as I expect it so I am not to worried.



On 8/06/2016 3:31 a.m., Pete wrote:
as the s line says espeak n g makes a buzzing or sneezing sound
along
with some words.
NOT COOL AT ALL
along with the funny noises the voice flutters
This is default espeakng max voice set to en...
windows 7 x64 pro clean install
nvda installed using default settings except for speed set to
100
percent
Can I replace the espeak n g with the older one by copying the
old one
over the new one in the program files x86 \ nvda folder?
Thanks for any help!
Pete




.

respect,   I used to be able to use espeak at 30% with the rate boost on but I have used vocaliser for some years now and I am now trying espeak again,   I am running at 85% with no boost at this time at some point might be able to run with the speech boost on.

On 10/06/2016 12:28, Bhavya shah wrote:

Hi all,
Just quickly chiming in - I am using ESpeak NG very comfortably and
alike ESpeak with the following voice configurations:
Variants: Steph/Steph_test 1/Steph 2/Steph 3 (mostly similar)
Speech Rate: 40% with rate boost enabled, though I prefer reading
important or academic notes at 30% with rate boost enabled, but can go
up to 50% or so in places (such as a fast paced game) with whose text
messages I am acquainted or familiar to some extent already, or if
necessary
Pitch: 40
Inflection: 50
I first heard ESpeak's Max variant voice close to three years ago, and
began using it and NVDA full time almost two years ago, and my above
speech settings have been going on since a year perhaps. I hope to
build my listening speed too to compete with Jamie and others at some
point in time in the future, as Jamie uses ESpeak's Max at 55% with
rate boost enabled always, as I am informed through some of his public
interviews/podcasts. :D grin
Back to the topic though, I have found not even the subtlest of
annoyances with ESpeak NG, perhaps I find it a tad bit more
responsive, could be a misconception though, as ESpeak already was
incredibly responsive.
Thanks.

On 6/10/16, Pete <emac00@...> wrote:

   My first experience with a screen reader and a synthesizer was with
the apple 2 c running dos 3.3 and using textalker screenreader with an
echo synthesizer.  The echo synth was fast enough at the time.  The next
computer was a x t clone with 570 k ram and 40 megibite hard drive using
an old speech master board with some scripts to read things on the
screen.  Clunky and slow.  It was using dos.  Next windows 95 came along
and I used webspeak in it for a while along with tinytalk and seekline
in dos with nettamer.  Things got better with an old accent p c i s a
synth I was given and started using provox in dos.

   Pete


On 6/10/2016 6:56 AM, Lenron wrote:

I can maybe understand nvda reading at 85 or 90 don't mean I wish to
read that fast. I normally keep it in the 70 to 75 range. ESpeak
sounds horrible to me.

On 6/10/16, Pete <emac00@...> wrote:

    Hi  Sukil

    ok, I hear the anoying sound with rate set to 100%.  It goes away
set
to 99% and below.  Again the anoying sound starts with rate boost box
checked at 19% and goes away at 18% and below.  The anoying sound is
there all the way up from it's starting point at 19% with rate boost box
checked, well atleast up to 70%.  I am not sure abuv 70% with check box
checked, I can't process beyond that point.  It sounds like it's still
there.  I am stuck using nvda with espeak set to about 40% with rate
boost checked now.  I feal like my computer is running on malassis.

    The nvda settings are default except for the rate boost and the rate
set high.

    That would be greatly appriciated your filing this on github!

    Thanks  Pete

On 6/10/2016 4:43 AM, Sukil Etxenike via Groups.io wrote:

Hi Pete,

I'd suggest the same thing I suggested before. That is, file an issue
at <http:///github.com/espeak-ng/espeak-ng/issues>. If you don't have
an account on GitHub, I can do it for you.

Please describe the error in detail, as I use the same version of
eSpeak (with occassionally the English voice) with rate set to 30 or
40 with rate boost and I find no problems. Or perhaps I missunderstood
you, and you use different parameteres.


RegardsSukil



El 09/06/2016 a las 13:12, Pete escribió:

   hi

   I all ways used the default nvda max english voice, I am
disappointed in the changes made to espeak in nvda I think starting
with nvda 2015 or may be as far back as 2014.  Were the changes made
to espeak by nvda devel or the creator of espeak. I would like a
choice in nvda setup to be able to pick witch espeak to install.  I
feal the need for speed quite freequently and to have that fluttering
sound in there when the check box for rate boost is checked so I can
get up to a 600 to 800 words per min is disruptive.  I am still
trying to get used to it.

   Pete

On 6/8/2016 1:43 PM, nasrin khaksar wrote:

hi.
i use iven3 which is the best voice and also with default rate of
nvda
which is 30!
its very perfect for me.

On 6/7/16, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@...> wrote:

I have replaced the data from old espeak over and the syntth works
a lot
better one person had trouble however, espeak at least the word
stuff
works as I expect it so I am not to worried.



On 8/06/2016 3:31 a.m., Pete wrote:

    as the s line says espeak n g makes a buzzing or sneezing sound
along
with some words.
NOT COOL AT ALL
    along with the funny noises the voice flutters
    This is default espeakng max voice set to en...
    windows 7 x64 pro clean install
    nvda installed using default settings except for speed set to
100
percent
    Can I replace the espeak n g with the older one by copying the
old one
over the new one in the program files x86 \ nvda folder?
    Thanks for any help!
    Pete




.

Sadly, this new update didn’t effect my issue with web pages at all, not that it was supposed to do so, but I was hopeful.

I too don’t use the grammar feature but I love the spell check sound. Saves me a lot of time on email creation.
Jenine Stanley
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