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Re: you are invited to upgrade to NonVisual Desktop Access 2016.3

蔡宗豪 Victor Cai
 

Hi Joseph and all,
Thank you for the update news.
It would be great if someone could add a link “What’s new in NVDA 2016.3.” in the NV Access post.

Also, if there are something new for the topic
NVDA and Windows 10.
Thanks.

Regards,
Victor cai



2016-09-06 14:14 GMT+08:00 Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...>:

Dear citizens of the NVDA land:

 

Yes, it is official: one of the ministers of NVDA land, a certain Mr. Teh, has just ordered the horsemen to announce a good news throughout the land:

 

NVDA 2016.3 is officially out:

http://www.nvaccess.org/post/announcing-nvda-2016-3-release/

 

So what’s new, changed and fixed:

 

From RC2: no changes.

 

Highlights:

 

·        You can now disable individual add-ons.

·        NVDA is more cofmpatible with Windows 10 Anniversary Update (version 1607). Among the things included are return of browse mode in Edge, announcing newer UAC prompts, ability to navigate PDF documents in Edge and more.

·        NVDA+F9/NVDA+F10 command behavior change is now official.

·        Color announcement has been simplified.

·        NVDA no longer announces “associated draft” in Outlook 2016.

·        NVDA can now announce line spacing in Microsoft Word.

·        Various enhancements.

 

A sneak preview at 2016.4: three game-changing features will be served as part of Thanksgiving Party this November:

 

·        Ever wanted to hear line indentation via beeps? You can do that starting in November.

·        Want to experience the next chapter in assistive technology history? Or would you like to be one of the first ones to experience a combination of a free screen reader and a low-cost braille display? Stay tuned, as this combination will change your life in November.

·        Needed an assistant in persuading web or app developers about accessibility needs of screen reader users? The wait is almost over: let NVDA volunteer for you from November onwards.

 

The rest: let’s just say the ministers at NVDA land are holding council every day, looking over this land and thinking about the needs of citizens and planning the next great adventure for the people of this land.

 

Personally, I’m excited to see what NVDA can do in opening opportunities for many people, particularly for those who’re using Windows 10. On behalf of people who’ve contributed to NVDA 2016.3 development, I wish you best in your endeavor as you use NVDA 2016.3 in various places (work, school, for fun and in unexpected places). Also, NVDA 2016.3 release announcement will be my final NVDA release announcement (on this list), as I believe the community is ready to welcome new reporters.

 

Thanks.

Cheers,

Joseph



Re: NVDA 2016.3 and Speech hub

Sharni-Lee Ward
 

I just tested this, and was able to access the synths just fine in NVDA 2016.3, so I don't understand what is happening with you.


On 6/09/2016 4:57 PM, Dang Manh Cuong wrote:
To all listers
Using NVDA 2016.3RC2, and the speech hub add-on didn't work. Try reinstall, and NvDA faild to install that add-on.
Just a quick report.
Cuong
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Re: NVDA 2016.3

 

Hi
Previous version worked well, except 2016.3rc1. However, I try re install afew minute ago, and it has worked.
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----- Original Message -----
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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 5:21 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2016.3


If you go back does it then work for you. I'd be interested in the synth in use, if its, for example the dodgy free Eloquence this effect is to be expected as that was a very old and dodgy add on.
However if its espeak and everything else this is far more serious.
I've just updated several machines both installed and portable with no issues, though in one case I had to do a manual restart when it went nto sulk mode, but that rebooted fine.
Maybe we need more detail.
Brian

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Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 7:54 AM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA 2016.3


To all listers
I installed NVDA 2016.3 yesterday, and it does not speaks when I navigate within Windows explorer on my laptop running Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit.
Cuong
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Re: text to mp3 with an nvda voice addon?

Leo Bado <leobado1970@...>
 

in short, yes.

that's the reason we are giving you this others ansers, so, use
microsoft sapi voices or a free synthetizer.

El 07/09/2016 a las 06:10 a.m., multi 85 escribió:
Thanks everyone for your answers, I appreciate them, but my question
also is, if someone is using the acapella or Vocalizer NVDA add-ons,
this would not be recognized by Balabolka? So you'd have to purchase
voices twice if you wanted to use your preferred voice for mp3?

On 9/7/16, Leo Bado <leobado1970@hotmail.com> wrote:
hi,

yes, balabolka is a great option.

it will recognize all sapi 5 voices you have instaled, including
microsoft sapi voices.

and to let you know, in latest versions it also records in m4a, m4b
forma as well.

To choose the format of your preferences, press shift + f5 and the audio
file options wil pop up!



El 06/09/2016 a las 11:12 p.m., nasrin khaksar escribió:
hi.
download balabolka, install sapi5 version of espeak and use it for free.
but it records as wave format and you should convert it in to .mp3.
its very fast, free and multi languages!
you can open all kind of formats with it without any problem,
for example: even if you dont install adobe reader and microsoft
office, you can open pdf and word document with it.
http://www.cross-plus-a.com/balabolka.zip

On 9/7/16, Albert Ruel <albertruel@gmail.com> wrote:
Try TextAloud.

Thx, Albert

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 6, 2016, at 3:46 PM, multi 85 <multi851@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi
I know there are programs that convert text to mp3, but they find and
choose the voice independently, so you must have the Sappi voice. Is
there instead some sort of way that I could use a program or a method
that could use the voices I have which are nvda addons and somehow use
my nvda reading settings to convert a text that I am reading into mp3
to use on an Ipod? Basically, these programs then sort of force you to
purchase a voice you like twice if you want to convert, once for NVDA,
and then another time for the converting program and your sappi stuff,
so I'm hoping there's a better solution?






--
“If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he
hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music he hears, however
measured or far away.”
― Henry David Thoreau




--
“If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music he hears, however measured or far away.”
― Henry David Thoreau


Re: text to mp3 with an nvda voice addon?

Life My Way
 

virtual recorder can do this but you would have to edit out the stuff you don't want meanning the other stuff you hear from your screen reader before you would place it on your I device

On 9/6/2016 7:22 PM, Roger Stewart wrote:
Maybe some program that lets you record what you hear and save it as mp3. I know Goldwave will do this but it isn't free but is very low priced for its power but I'm sure there are other programs that will do this and some should be free.

Roger







On 9/6/2016 5:46 PM, multi 85 wrote:
Hi
I know there are programs that convert text to mp3, but they find and
choose the voice independently, so you must have the Sappi voice. Is
there instead some sort of way that I could use a program or a method
that could use the voices I have which are nvda addons and somehow use
my nvda reading settings to convert a text that I am reading into mp3
to use on an Ipod? Basically, these programs then sort of force you to
purchase a voice you like twice if you want to convert, once for NVDA,
and then another time for the converting program and your sappi stuff,
so I'm hoping there's a better solution?






Re: text to mp3 with an nvda voice addon?

multi 85
 

Thanks everyone for your answers, I appreciate them, but my question
also is, if someone is using the acapella or Vocalizer NVDA add-ons,
this would not be recognized by Balabolka? So you'd have to purchase
voices twice if you wanted to use your preferred voice for mp3?

On 9/7/16, Leo Bado <leobado1970@hotmail.com> wrote:
hi,

yes, balabolka is a great option.

it will recognize all sapi 5 voices you have instaled, including
microsoft sapi voices.

and to let you know, in latest versions it also records in m4a, m4b
forma as well.

To choose the format of your preferences, press shift + f5 and the audio
file options wil pop up!



El 06/09/2016 a las 11:12 p.m., nasrin khaksar escribió:
hi.
download balabolka, install sapi5 version of espeak and use it for free.
but it records as wave format and you should convert it in to .mp3.
its very fast, free and multi languages!
you can open all kind of formats with it without any problem,
for example: even if you dont install adobe reader and microsoft
office, you can open pdf and word document with it.
http://www.cross-plus-a.com/balabolka.zip

On 9/7/16, Albert Ruel <albertruel@gmail.com> wrote:
Try TextAloud.

Thx, Albert

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 6, 2016, at 3:46 PM, multi 85 <multi851@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi
I know there are programs that convert text to mp3, but they find and
choose the voice independently, so you must have the Sappi voice. Is
there instead some sort of way that I could use a program or a method
that could use the voices I have which are nvda addons and somehow use
my nvda reading settings to convert a text that I am reading into mp3
to use on an Ipod? Basically, these programs then sort of force you to
purchase a voice you like twice if you want to convert, once for NVDA,
and then another time for the converting program and your sappi stuff,
so I'm hoping there's a better solution?






--
“If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he
hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music he hears, however
measured or far away.”
― Henry David Thoreau





Re: text to mp3 with an nvda voice addon?

Leo Bado <leobado1970@...>
 

hi,

yes, balabolka is a great option.

it will recognize all sapi 5 voices you have instaled, including
microsoft sapi voices.

and to let you know, in latest versions it also records in m4a, m4b
forma as well.

To choose the format of your preferences, press shift + f5 and the audio
file options wil pop up!

El 06/09/2016 a las 11:12 p.m., nasrin khaksar escribió:
hi.
download balabolka, install sapi5 version of espeak and use it for free.
but it records as wave format and you should convert it in to .mp3.
its very fast, free and multi languages!
you can open all kind of formats with it without any problem,
for example: even if you dont install adobe reader and microsoft
office, you can open pdf and word document with it.
http://www.cross-plus-a.com/balabolka.zip

On 9/7/16, Albert Ruel <albertruel@gmail.com> wrote:
Try TextAloud.

Thx, Albert

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 6, 2016, at 3:46 PM, multi 85 <multi851@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi
I know there are programs that convert text to mp3, but they find and
choose the voice independently, so you must have the Sappi voice. Is
there instead some sort of way that I could use a program or a method
that could use the voices I have which are nvda addons and somehow use
my nvda reading settings to convert a text that I am reading into mp3
to use on an Ipod? Basically, these programs then sort of force you to
purchase a voice you like twice if you want to convert, once for NVDA,
and then another time for the converting program and your sappi stuff,
so I'm hoping there's a better solution?






--
“If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music he hears, however measured or far away.”
― Henry David Thoreau


Re: Moving in Notepad

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Nasrin,

I must confess, I haven't used Notepad++ much lately - I downloaded it when I setup this machine as I have used it on and off for years, but then haven't happened to use it since I've had the machine setup.  I'll have to have more of a look at it and get back to you, unless anyone else in the group has tips on setting it up currently?

On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 5:19 PM, nasrin khaksar <nasrinkhaksar3@...> wrote:
hi Quentin.
thanks so much again for your help.
could you please guide me how to increase accessibility in notepad plus plus?
i have some issues with it, for example when i write something,
replace it with something and press replace all nvda does not say the
result!
God bless you.

On 9/7/16, David Moore <jesusloves1966@...> wrote:
> Hi,
> You can tell Word Pad to open when a .TXT file is entered on instead of
> Notepad opening it. Go to default programs in the Control panel. You can
> associate a .TXT file to open in Word pad. That is what I do, and I never
> have to use Note Pad.
> David Moore
>
>
> From: Gene
> Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 2:13 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Moving in Notepad
>
> You don't say what kinds of files you are working with in Word and Wordpad.
> Notepad is a text editor.  it only creates text files.  Wordpad and Word are
> word processors.  they can indicate formatting in other ways than in
> Notepad.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Quentin Christensen
> Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 12:33 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Moving in Notepad
>
> Hi Nasrin,
>
> I didn't mention in my earlier message, but I did try in Notepad++ and
> control+up arrow and control+down arrow don't move between paragraphs in
> that program either, although they do at least move up and down by one
> line.
>
> They do work in Word and also in WordPad.
>
> Regards
>
> Quentin.
>
> On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 3:16 PM, nasrin khaksar <nasrinkhaksar3@...>
> wrote:
>
>   hi.
>   how this feature work on notepad plus plus?
>   God bless you.
>
>   On 9/7/16, John Sanfilippo <john.sanfilippo@...> wrote:
>   > If you want to try another editor, I know for sure that Jamal Mazrui's
>   > EdSharp Moves by paragraph when you press control up or down arrow.
>   > (Free program, empowermentzone.com, look for edsetup.exe.)
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   > I'd like to be able to move by sentence too, but that seems available
>   > only if you're using NVDA with Word.
>   >
>   >
>   > John S
>   >
>   >
>   > On 9/6/16 22:49, Gene wrote:
>   >> JAWS uses scripts for this purpose.  The script looks for a blank line
>   >> and moves you beyond it.  If you are using a screen-reader that is not
>   >> scripted to do this, it moves you to the next line by looking for one
>   >> return.  That is my recollection anyway.  In your case, you say you
>   >> stay on the current line so perhaps my recollection is wrong.  but
>   >> whatever the case, NVDA doesn't behave like JAWS in notepad.
>   >> Gene
>   >> ----- Original Message -----
>   >> *From:* kelby carlson <mailto:kelbycarlson@...>
>   >> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 06, 2016 6:52 PM
>   >> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>   >> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Moving in Notepad
>   >>
>   >> I can do it with JAWS just fine and have always been able to.
>   >>
>   >> On 9/6/16, Andre Fisher <andrefisher729@...
>   >> <mailto:andrefisher729@gmail.com>> wrote:
>   >> > That functionality is not available in Notepad with any screen
>   >> > readers. It is meant to be used as a basic text editor.
>   >> >
>   >> > On 9/6/16, kelby carlson <kelbycarlson@...
>   >> <mailto:kelbycarlson@...>> wrote:
>   >> >> All,
>   >> >>
>   >> >> I can't seem to move by paragraph in Notepad. When I press
> ctrl-down
>   >> >> arrow I just get the same line that I'm currently on.
>   >> >>
>   >> >>
>   >> >>
>   >> >>
>   >> >
>   >> >
>   >> >
>   >> >
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>   >
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Re: NVDA 2016.3

 

hi.
did you mentioned free eloquence if i am correct?
is it realy freeware one version of eloquence?

On 9/7/16, Brian's Mail list account <bglists@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
If you go back does it then work for you. I'd be interested in the synth in

use, if its, for example the dodgy free Eloquence this effect is to be
expected as that was a very old and dodgy add on.
However if its espeak and everything else this is far more serious.
I've just updated several machines both installed and portable with no
issues, though in one case I had to do a manual restart when it went nto
sulk mode, but that rebooted fine.
Maybe we need more detail.
Brian

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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 7:54 AM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA 2016.3


To all listers
I installed NVDA 2016.3 yesterday, and it does not speaks when I navigate
within Windows explorer on my laptop running Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit.
Cuong
---------------
Dang Manh Cuong
The Assistive technology specialist
Sao Mai Vocational and assistive center for the blind
391 Lac Long Quan, ward 5, Dst 11, HCMC, Vietnam
Tel: +84862573309
E-mail: vanphong@trungtamsaomai.org; congnghe@trungtamsaomai.org
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/SaoMaiCenter
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Impossibl to read context menus in Win10 with some laptops

Mallard
 

Hello listers,

I'm submittingthis question on behalf of some Italian friends, who are finding it impossible to view context menus in Windows 10 with NVDA on some laptops.
One of them is

ASUS ZENBOOK UX303UA

and other friends have laterm odels in the same Asus series.

Apparently the menus are readable with Jaws.

Has anyone encountered the same issue, and how has it been worked around, if it has a tall?

The person I talked to is running the latest update of Windows 10, with NVDA 2016.3, with Wintenapps add-on installed.

Thanks for any help you can provide.
Ciao,
Ollie

Il 07/09/2016 12:39, Gene ha scritto:
There is nothing wrong with doing this, but you need to let your screen-reader read and you would record in real time. So, you could do this for a certain number of hours when you are sleeping or not home or otherwise occupied. It takes the same amount of time as actually listening to the book and you need to set time aside and plan if you only have one computer and/or can't have any of your computers tied up except at certain times.
Gene
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*Subject:* Re: [nvda] text to mp3 with an nvda voice addon?

What about Virtual recorder?
Brian

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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>>
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 1:22 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] text to mp3 with an nvda voice addon?


Maybe some program that lets you record what you hear and save it as
mp3.
I know Goldwave will do this but it isn't free but is very low
priced for
its power but I'm sure there are other programs that will do this
and some
should be free.

Roger







On 9/6/2016 5:46 PM, multi 85 wrote:
Hi
I know there are programs that convert text to mp3, but they find and
choose the voice independently, so you must have the Sappi voice. Is
there instead some sort of way that I could use a program or a method
that could use the voices I have which are nvda addons and somehow use
my nvda reading settings to convert a text that I am reading into mp3
to use on an Ipod? Basically, these programs then sort of force you to
purchase a voice you like twice if you want to convert, once for NVDA,
and then another time for the converting program and your sappi stuff,
so I'm hoping there's a better solution?







Re: text to mp3 with an nvda voice addon?

Gene
 

There is nothing wrong with doing this, but you need to let your screen-reader read and you would record in real time.  So, you could do this for a certain number of hours when you are sleeping or not home or otherwise occupied.  It takes the same amount of time as actually listening to the book and you need to set time aside and plan if you only have one computer and/or can't have any of your computers tied up except at certain times.
 
Gene
-----

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Subject: Re: [nvda] text to mp3 with an nvda voice addon?

What about Virtual recorder?
 Brian

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Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 1:22 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] text to mp3 with an nvda voice addon?


> Maybe some program that lets you record what you hear and save it as mp3.
> I know Goldwave will do this but it isn't free but is very low priced for
> its power but I'm sure there are other programs that will do this and some
> should be free.
>
> Roger
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 9/6/2016 5:46 PM, multi 85 wrote:
>> Hi
>> I know there are programs that convert text to mp3, but they find and
>> choose the voice independently, so you must have the Sappi voice.  Is
>> there instead some sort of way that I could use a program or a method
>> that could use the voices I have which are nvda addons and somehow use
>> my nvda reading settings to convert a text that I am reading into mp3
>> to use on an Ipod? Basically, these programs then sort of force you to
>> purchase a voice you like twice if you want to convert, once for NVDA,
>> and then another time for the converting program and your sappi stuff,
>> so I'm hoping there's a better solution?
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I think the current issue is a bug in windows 10 anniversary edition.
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To find the add on, go to the add on manager, and tab to the button that says 'get add ons'. Press enter and Edge or whatever browser you're using will open. Look for the Windows 10 App Essential add on and download the stable version. Also if you're like me and had problem where NVDA won't read typed characters, try uninstalling and re-installing NVDA. I remember I came across that when I upgraded direct from Windows 7 to 10.


Re: Facebook on Chrome with NVDA

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That is not the issue, its lack of testing with any screenreader despite google having an accessible mail list all one gets is apologies and waffle every time. i gave up on them long ago.
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I long for the same. Someone should tell Google or the Chromium project to improve support for NVDA.


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The issue about Chrome is the version of the code used in fact. Its Chrome that seems to update without asking and uses the latest version all the time.
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Well all the mozilla programs, thunderbird/firefox/etc use the chrome engine somehow.
Yeah google chrome is not accessible necessarily, but obviously the engine deffinitely is.
The interface is another issue however.
Most addons use standard controls to.



On 7/09/2016 6:10 p.m., Felix G. wrote:
Recent versions of Firefox have become more laggy, speech-redundant and
unpredictable for me with NVDA as well. Still, it has the best coverage in
terms of accessibility, which is to say, things may work in a sluggish way
but they do work. The only real pain that I am having with Firefox is I
know of no way to receive feedback once a site has finished assembling
itself in terms of scripts loading other scripts loading other content and
so on. So I often start reading before the ajax storm abates, and the
dynamics keep throwing off my cursor or lead to painful lags.
Greetings,
Felix

Supanut Leepaisomboon <supanut2000@outlook.com> schrieb am Mi., 7. Sep.
2016 um 01:15 Uhr:

Did you try using Firefox on sites with Flash, like Youtube? From my
experience with Jaws Firefox lags a lot if I click to play Flash content,
but I'm not sure if this is also the case with NVDA. Feedback on this
matter would be appreciated. Also has anyone experienced lags when using
Firefox with Outlook.com along with NVDA?


Re: Facebook on Chrome with NVDA

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One think people do not appreciate is that you need to test drive the adblockrs and decide which slows the machine the least but still removes most of what you want removed. Some are hogs.
Also as has been said, in order to run faster, many programs stache themselves in memory, reducing that available and forcing that virtual memory slow down of using the hard drive. I have also found that solid state drives for the amin drive speeds up everything.
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Hmmm I have never tried firefox on a serface, but the i5 2.4ghz dule and 4gb ram is enough with the amd 1gb vidcard.
Your system needs a good reconfig.
Generally what I do with any new system is to first give it a good reformat which always fixes things.
Then reinstall everything and ask the user if they need it or not and update what they need.
The first thing that goes is usually the security suite and other malware tools because the comercial ones slow the system down.
Next on the list is usually spotify/itunes/skype because they use a lot of power and ram.
Next are the cloud services, if you don't need bt sync/dropbox/googledrive/onedrive running 24/7 or at least at startup that takes a lot off the system.
In theory all you should at least as a blink have at startup are.
1. your antivirus and or other security program, your drivers for essential hardware, and your screen reader.
No soundcard or display enhancements nothing like that.
It gets harder for those I work with that want 4 cloud systems going, skype, spotify, itunes, their own personal web server and something else.
It means a lot of memmory I can't get access to.
Even with the latest updates and even with all drivers updated, drives scanned and defraged anti virused, etc there still can be problems.
Most people actually think when the system is set up even via a recovery disk that it just works.
Your system is usually set up so someone can demo it in a shop or something.
By default its just the default and thats usually crap.
On my toshiba I pulled the fingerprint security, the network configuration and several other features because they were either useless or just not needed.
I also did the change the enhancements to nothing, and turn all bios keyboard hooks off so they didn't get in the way.
Where you can it doesn't hurt to get the latest drivers and bios while you're at it.
And even if you don't you should note what you use.
You should have a base configuration for all your systems.
Mine for example is either msse/ whatever security software they use weather it be windows defender, avg or something unless its norton or some hog like that.
ccleaner, defragler, 7zip vlc audacity, winlame cd burner xp, chrome and or firefox.
Firefox has better privacy, nav sounds add block + and noscript.
Thats the basic configuration.
It allows me basic recording, file compression, cd creation, full access to critical functions, etc.
On those systems where the space is small, I reduce it to the minimum, ccleaner, defragler, security software, 7zip, and thats about it.
My system has the ability for youtube conversion, video to mp3 functions, a dvd audio extracter, a couple of game file hack tools, a lite weight processer and a lot of games and other datafiles but my config doesn't differ that much from base.
On my dad's side he has itunes for his devices, office, several software packages for his gps including mapping software.
In my brothers its office, and his speech recognition package, as well as that he has functions for his various cameras and mobile devices.
My dad also has the camera functions.
In all base configs, I have java for java apps, klite mega for codecs, all visual c runtimes from 2005 to whatever the latest is, dotnet from what is the most compatible version in xp thats 1.1 to 4.6, on 7, its 5.0 based net frame means I don't need that extra junk.
I also have directx 9 or whatever the latest is running, vb6 extended and a few other misc things.
Anyway once you have a base, you find what you don't and do need.
Firstly take note of all your programs you have installed and find out what you need and what you don't.
Find out what is starting up, and well what you need, search for it if you want.
Next see if there are drivers, etc to update.
Look at all the programs you have, and what you need, see how much they cost to update, free and opensource should be updated whenever.
Low cost programs should be especially if they have a licence for lifetimes and bigger stuff, well you need to decide if you need it and budget accordingly.
Point is by this time you should have a good idea of what you have, and why.
Next is the hard part.
With all your programs in front of you, do a full reformat and reload from scratch.
As you reload see what you need, I have often cleared out things that way.
Once you are done you have a slick config.
The trick is sticking with it.
I don't fiddle that much, on my personal workstation with backups, I do let myself doodle round the edge, I have not needed to reformat yet though some stuff is broken.
On other workstations I have I load everythihng that is needed and improve experience of the users.
On others, I generally do what I need to do and get out.
The average jo public isn't going to give you credit if you fiddle round and if it breaks its a headake for you and time for him.
And becides you want to get in, fix whatever and exit.
Pulling his unencripted music collection along the way maybe.
Thing is once you have a stable config unless you get a virus, hardware failier or a bug jumps down your power fan, your system shouldn't fail or need another format.
Most users sadly run in default mode then wander why its broke.
Even if you don't reformat you can still adopt some of the steps, its not really as good if you don't reformat but if you are diligent you can make the best of a bad situation.
Ie even though I have adobe acrobat, flash,etc on various systems, fact is one of the boxes here needs a good reformat, but I have been able to get round some of its issues to work with it.
There is a big hole in my own workstation but right now I need no accessing that broken bit and its not gotten worse.



On 7/09/2016 7:12 p.m., Supanut Leepaisomboon wrote:
I agree. The main reason I'm looking towards Chrome is because I think it's faster and less laggy on a laptop. Though if I do get a new laptop that is more powerful than my Surface 3, then it may not actually matter...


Re: Microsoft Edge and forms mode with latest NVDA update

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Its a bug in the anniversary update, as mine worked till that was downloaded and installed.
Such is life, two steps forward, and one back. I have stopped edge being runexcept in the search assistandt with the stupid name.
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Hi,
We're using Windows 10 and the latest release of NVDA. I'm sorry if this question was posed before and answered. I missed it somehow. I heard that with the latest update to NVDA, the Edge was supposed to be more accessible? In some ways, it is, but does anyone know how to easily fill out forms here? We can force it into forms mode, but it will read nothing we type. Is this a problem for just us or something that is a problem still for everyone and maybe will get fixed in the next NVDA release? Thanks.
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Re: NVDA 2016.3

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If you go back does it then work for you. I'd be interested in the synth in use, if its, for example the dodgy free Eloquence this effect is to be expected as that was a very old and dodgy add on.
However if its espeak and everything else this is far more serious.
I've just updated several machines both installed and portable with no issues, though in one case I had to do a manual restart when it went nto sulk mode, but that rebooted fine.
Maybe we need more detail.
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Subject: [nvda] NVDA 2016.3


To all listers
I installed NVDA 2016.3 yesterday, and it does not speaks when I navigate within Windows explorer on my laptop running Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit.
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Navigational sounds surely puts out a little tone after page loading.
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Recent versions of Firefox have become more laggy, speech-redundant and
unpredictable for me with NVDA as well. Still, it has the best coverage in
terms of accessibility, which is to say, things may work in a sluggish way
but they do work. The only real pain that I am having with Firefox is I
know of no way to receive feedback once a site has finished assembling
itself in terms of scripts loading other scripts loading other content and
so on. So I often start reading before the ajax storm abates, and the
dynamics keep throwing off my cursor or lead to painful lags.
Greetings,
Felix

Supanut Leepaisomboon <supanut2000@outlook.com> schrieb am Mi., 7. Sep.
2016 um 01:15 Uhr:

Did you try using Firefox on sites with Flash, like Youtube? From my
experience with Jaws Firefox lags a lot if I click to play Flash content,
but I'm not sure if this is also the case with NVDA. Feedback on this
matter would be appreciated. Also has anyone experienced lags when using
Firefox with Outlook.com along with NVDA?


Re: text to mp3 with an nvda voice addon?

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What about Virtual recorder?
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Maybe some program that lets you record what you hear and save it as mp3. I know Goldwave will do this but it isn't free but is very low priced for its power but I'm sure there are other programs that will do this and some should be free.

Roger







On 9/6/2016 5:46 PM, multi 85 wrote:
Hi
I know there are programs that convert text to mp3, but they find and
choose the voice independently, so you must have the Sappi voice. Is
there instead some sort of way that I could use a program or a method
that could use the voices I have which are nvda addons and somehow use
my nvda reading settings to convert a text that I am reading into mp3
to use on an Ipod? Basically, these programs then sort of force you to
purchase a voice you like twice if you want to convert, once for NVDA,
and then another time for the converting program and your sappi stuff,
so I'm hoping there's a better solution?




Re: Microsoft Edge and forms mode with latest NVDA update

 

To find the add on, go to the add on manager, and tab to the button that says 'get add ons'. Press enter and Edge or whatever browser you're using will open. Look for the Windows 10 App Essential add on and download the stable version. Also if you're like me and had problem where NVDA won't read typed characters, try uninstalling and re-installing NVDA. I remember I came across that when I upgraded direct from Windows 7 to 10.