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Re: getting rid of the extra verbage in thunderbird

valiant8086
 

Hi.


Yes, press escape while your input focus is on that edit box. If you need to bring it up again, I think it's ctrl+k or ctrl+shift+k.



Cheers, Aaron Spears, general Partner - Valiant Galaxy Associates Developing "very good audiogames" for the blind community http://valiantGalaxy.com Sent with Thunderbird 38.5.0 portable

On 8/18/2016 11:17 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, everyone,


When I shift tab from the inbox, I get something that says "filter these messages". Is there a way to disable it and go directly to the treeview?


Thanks in advance for your help.


Rosemarie



Re: dealing with Pins on the Windows 10 start

Gene
 

But you can define your own shortcuts when you create a short cut key.  Control alt f could be used for Firefox.  Control alt w could be used for Windows Live Mail if that is your e-mail program.
 
My point is that you can use the first letter of the name of the program and that might make remembering the command easy.  Also, you don't have to create a lot of commands for programs if you don't want to.  If you have three or four programs you open a lot more than others, you would only have those commands to remember. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 9:12 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] dealing with Pins on the Windows 10 start

Hi Gene,

 

I have problems keeping track of all the screen reader and Windows short-cuts. Of course, if this works for people, they have that option.

 

 

 

Regards

Louis Maher

Phone: 713-444-7838

E-mail: ljmaher@...

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 8:44 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] dealing with Pins on the Windows 10 start

 

Once you put a shortcut on the desktop, if you are going to use the application often, why not assign a shortcut command?  In future, you don't have to go to the desktop and move to the shortcut.  You can open the application from almost anywhere just by issuing one command. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Louis Maher

Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 7:40 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] dealing with Pins on the Windows 10 start

 

Hello Brandon,

 

I find it easier to place application shortcuts on the desktop.  This is a two-step process.  Hit the windows key, type in the application name, hit the context menu, find file location and enter on it, hit the context menu and go to the send-to menu.  Hit the desktop option.  Hit windows m to bring you to the desktop, type the first letter of the application, and you will land on it.  Note that on the desktop, once you find a and select  application, you can hit f2 and change the shortcut’s name.

 

 

 

Regards

Louis Maher

Phone: 713-444-7838

E-mail: ljmaher@...

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brandon Keith Biggs
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 7:04 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] dealing with Pins on the Windows 10 start

 

Hello,

Does anyone understand how pins work in Windows 10?

I removed all the junk in hopes that fewer items would make things clearer, but it didn't I pinned a couple things to the start and in order to get to them I need to hit right arrow once and down arrow all the way to the bottom when they should be just down.

Apparently there are folders but I can't understand how they work.

Any help would be great because I would like to start using the start menu.

Thanks,


Re: Accessible Youtube video downloader?

 

Hi,

Thanks for the suggestions, I'll give either or both of them a try...


Re: SSH with the new windows Bash Client?

 

Hello,
So I was able to get the bash client working on my computer.
Pros:
The client works great, it is just like powershell or command prompt.
2. SSH works OK. You can read what happened with the review cursor, but there is a huge lag when typing (nvda will say the letter like half a second after you type and it is not 100%). There is no feedback for up arrow to retype commands and no feedback when letters are deleted.
Other than that things are really good! Vim could use some tweaking to be a little easier to use, but it is the best. Nano doesn't like opening existing files. NVDA doesn't read anything when you open an already existing file with nano.

Because this is pretty much a commandline, is NVDA able to modify any of these behaviors?
It would be beyond amazing if there was a text editor that had the usability of EdSharp on the bash line. Vim could be that, but I have not seen anything to show me it is faster than editing with EdSharp. Apparently it is not normal for most people to never leave their keyboard when they are typing and that is what Vim allows. But EdSharp has even faster key commands and it is a lot more user friendly.

Thanks,

On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 2:14 PM, Jeremy <icu8it2@...> wrote:
If it's the same thing that was mentioned a while ago here on list, it does work, but seems to have some of the same issues in navigating things like ncurses menus and areas such as files within nano. As with Teraterm and I assume, putty, NVDA doesn't always track the cursor correctly, so you have to use review commands to get an idea of your position sometimes. I'm not sure if this is mostly specific to recent versions of NVDA, as I know older versions worked really well with Teraterm, but I do know the latest one can be really frustrating to use with it.

How does one go about getting and using this bash console in 10, btw, as I'd certainly be willing to give it a shot. Is it something that comes in the latest anniversary update?
Take care.

On 8/19/2016 3:18 PM, Brandon Keith Biggs wrote:
Hello,
Has anyone managed to give the new windows bash client a try yet? I am waiting for my update to install. It is a very functional Ubuntu type system and that means that SSH should work.
If that is the case, no more needing to deal with partly accessible SSH clients, we will be able to use the default windows client!
Thanks,




Re: Accessible Youtube video downloader?

Salva Doménech Miguel <kibayasd@...>
 

Hi.
You can use 4k Video Downloader for Playlists or Songr for single videos.
Cheers
Salva Doménech Miguel
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El 20/08/2016 a las 17:34, Supanut Leepaisomboon escribió:

Hey guys,

Any suggestion for Youtube video downloading program that is accessible with NVDA and still in active development? I'm currently using Pontes Media Downloader which is perfectly accessible, but the last version was in late 2014, and I've started having issues downloading playlists with tens of videos lately. Because of this, I'm thinking of finding a replacement, but I'm not aware of any programs out there that is accessible with NVDA and still in active development.



Endnotes in Word

kelby carlson
 

hello,

Is there an easy way to either (a) get a list of all of the
endnotes/footnotes in a Word document or to move from the place in the
text where there is a footnote/endnote directly to the endnote itself?


Accessible Youtube video downloader?

 

Hey guys,

Any suggestion for Youtube video downloading program that is accessible with NVDA and still in active development? I'm currently using Pontes Media Downloader which is perfectly accessible, but the last version was in late 2014, and I've started having issues downloading playlists with tens of videos lately. Because of this, I'm thinking of finding a replacement, but I'm not aware of any programs out there that is accessible with NVDA and still in active development.


Re: dealing with Pins on the Windows 10 start

 

Hello,
The reason why one uses the start menu is so you don't need to open apps to do things like your calendar, whether, news and stocks. you just arrow over those items and you hear what they are.
Thanks,

On Sat, Aug 20, 2016 at 5:40 AM, Louis Maher <ljmaher@...> wrote:

Hello Brandon,

 

I find it easier to place application shortcuts on the desktop.  This is a two-step process.  Hit the windows key, type in the application name, hit the context menu, find file location and enter on it, hit the context menu and go to the send-to menu.  Hit the desktop option.  Hit windows m to bring you to the desktop, type the first letter of the application, and you will land on it.  Note that on the desktop, once you find a and select  application, you can hit f2 and change the shortcut’s name.

 

 

 

Regards

Louis Maher

Phone: 713-444-7838

E-mail: ljmaher@...

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brandon Keith Biggs
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 7:04 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] dealing with Pins on the Windows 10 start

 

Hello,

Does anyone understand how pins work in Windows 10?

I removed all the junk in hopes that fewer items would make things clearer, but it didn't I pinned a couple things to the start and in order to get to them I need to hit right arrow once and down arrow all the way to the bottom when they should be just down.

Apparently there are folders but I can't understand how they work.

Any help would be great because I would like to start using the start menu.

Thanks,



Re: dealing with Pins on the Windows 10 start

Louis Maher <ljmaher@...>
 

Hi Gene,

 

I have problems keeping track of all the screen reader and Windows short-cuts. Of course, if this works for people, they have that option.

 

 

 

Regards

Louis Maher

Phone: 713-444-7838

E-mail: ljmaher@...

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 8:44 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] dealing with Pins on the Windows 10 start

 

Once you put a shortcut on the desktop, if you are going to use the application often, why not assign a shortcut command?  In future, you don't have to go to the desktop and move to the shortcut.  You can open the application from almost anywhere just by issuing one command. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 7:40 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] dealing with Pins on the Windows 10 start

 

Hello Brandon,

 

I find it easier to place application shortcuts on the desktop.  This is a two-step process.  Hit the windows key, type in the application name, hit the context menu, find file location and enter on it, hit the context menu and go to the send-to menu.  Hit the desktop option.  Hit windows m to bring you to the desktop, type the first letter of the application, and you will land on it.  Note that on the desktop, once you find a and select  application, you can hit f2 and change the shortcut’s name.

 

 

 

Regards

Louis Maher

Phone: 713-444-7838

E-mail: ljmaher@...

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brandon Keith Biggs
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 7:04 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] dealing with Pins on the Windows 10 start

 

Hello,

Does anyone understand how pins work in Windows 10?

I removed all the junk in hopes that fewer items would make things clearer, but it didn't I pinned a couple things to the start and in order to get to them I need to hit right arrow once and down arrow all the way to the bottom when they should be just down.

Apparently there are folders but I can't understand how they work.

Any help would be great because I would like to start using the start menu.

Thanks,


Re: dealing with Pins on the Windows 10 start

Gene
 

Once you put a shortcut on the desktop, if you are going to use the application often, why not assign a shortcut command?  In future, you don't have to go to the desktop and move to the shortcut.  You can open the application from almost anywhere just by issuing one command. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 7:40 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] dealing with Pins on the Windows 10 start

Hello Brandon,

 

I find it easier to place application shortcuts on the desktop.  This is a two-step process.  Hit the windows key, type in the application name, hit the context menu, find file location and enter on it, hit the context menu and go to the send-to menu.  Hit the desktop option.  Hit windows m to bring you to the desktop, type the first letter of the application, and you will land on it.  Note that on the desktop, once you find a and select  application, you can hit f2 and change the shortcut’s name.

 

 

 

Regards

Louis Maher

Phone: 713-444-7838

E-mail: ljmaher@...

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brandon Keith Biggs
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 7:04 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] dealing with Pins on the Windows 10 start

 

Hello,

Does anyone understand how pins work in Windows 10?

I removed all the junk in hopes that fewer items would make things clearer, but it didn't I pinned a couple things to the start and in order to get to them I need to hit right arrow once and down arrow all the way to the bottom when they should be just down.

Apparently there are folders but I can't understand how they work.

Any help would be great because I would like to start using the start menu.

Thanks,


Re: dealing with Pins on the Windows 10 start

Louis Maher <ljmaher@...>
 

Hello Brandon,

 

I find it easier to place application shortcuts on the desktop.  This is a two-step process.  Hit the windows key, type in the application name, hit the context menu, find file location and enter on it, hit the context menu and go to the send-to menu.  Hit the desktop option.  Hit windows m to bring you to the desktop, type the first letter of the application, and you will land on it.  Note that on the desktop, once you find a and select  application, you can hit f2 and change the shortcut’s name.

 

 

 

Regards

Louis Maher

Phone: 713-444-7838

E-mail: ljmaher@...

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brandon Keith Biggs
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 7:04 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] dealing with Pins on the Windows 10 start

 

Hello,

Does anyone understand how pins work in Windows 10?

I removed all the junk in hopes that fewer items would make things clearer, but it didn't I pinned a couple things to the start and in order to get to them I need to hit right arrow once and down arrow all the way to the bottom when they should be just down.

Apparently there are folders but I can't understand how they work.

Any help would be great because I would like to start using the start menu.

Thanks,


dealing with Pins on the Windows 10 start

 

Hello,
Does anyone understand how pins work in Windows 10?
I removed all the junk in hopes that fewer items would make things clearer, but it didn't I pinned a couple things to the start and in order to get to them I need to hit right arrow once and down arrow all the way to the bottom when they should be just down.
Apparently there are folders but I can't understand how they work.
Any help would be great because I would like to start using the start menu.
Thanks,


Re: Word "Clickable" - Number of repetitions and what causes it?

Brian's Mail list account BY <bglists@...>
 

Often you get nested frames though and in those cases its a bit like closing brackets on maths content. Get the number wrong and your line of code won't work or stuff is done in the wrong order.
The issue for me is that there seems to be no way to know what an iframe is and which one its the end of. This gets even more confusing on some adverts where each time you access a page the ad will change and not always have an embedded Iframe. Even ad blockers seem to end up sometimes with start and ends of frames that appear empty, but are invisible to the sighted.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Lino Morales" <linomorales001@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 10:10 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Word "Clickable" - Number of repetitions and what causes it?


I wish I knew this too Brian. One thing that annoys the crap out OF ME
are frames. When their frames I hear out of i frame several times.
Michael and James really need to correct this. All I want to hear is
frame start or end frame.


On 8/19/2016 3:36 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:

The following is a question that only the NVDA developers who handle
this can answer, but this is as good a place as any to make the inquiry.

Even as a sighted user I find it confusing when I land on something
that gets announced as "Clickable, clickable, clickable" when it
either is clickable, but all one would have to do is click once, or
when it's not clickable at all. I am also wondering why the phrase
"clickable link" gets used for some links while other links don't get
the "clickable" designation, and I'm not talking about something
that's stippled out. There seems to be little rhyme or reason to
how/when the designation "clickable" gets used and how many times.

As to the multi-clickable announcement, I'll give an example for an
object that is not clickable at all for a sighted user. When I go to
the Gmail Settings, General Tab, I eventually can tab myself to the
first part of the settings, which is Language. I will sometimes (and
I just now could not replicate even landing there) land on what looks
like the label for this group of settings. It will generally announce
"clickable" three times, but there's nothing there that a sighted
mouse user can click, and there's no hint as to what might be
clickable there.

There are too many buttons and links to mention as I navigate through
this page some of which say "clickable" when you land on them and
others that do not. There's got to be a rhyme and reason here, but I
cannot easily fathom what it is. I also think that saying "clickable
link" is redundant and, if you have that rare instance where a given
link is blocked, it would make more sense to announce that state of
oddity than to ever announce that a link that can be clicked is
"clickable."
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it's never enough to keep up.*/

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Life in the Universe"*



Re: Word "Clickable" - Number of repetitions and what causes it?

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Yes I think a link is what it says it is, ie it links to somewhere else.
Clickable is where the item has a function but it is not conveyed to the screenreader what that function is. Its obviously not a button combo box or whatever, so it defaults to clickable.
I am told, but cannot see that on some pages with multiple clickables a bar might be graphic and divided into segments of some kind but seemingly not able to be selected unless by the mouse itself.
I don't know if this is the case on your example as I've not tried it. If this is the case then this should surely fail the accessible rules unless some other way is given to get to whatever these items actually are, and since even nvda does not know what they are its hard to tell!

I have also seen sites with combo boxes that appear blank but seemingly cannot be activated unless some helpful sighted person uses the mouse, but they are still spoken as combo boxes by nvda. I guess we can never stop authoring errors and also the way some sites appear to work in one browser and not another.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Vogel" <britechguy@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 8:36 PM
Subject: [nvda] Word "Clickable" - Number of repetitions and what causes it?


The following is a question that only the NVDA developers who handle this can answer, but this is as good a place as any to make the inquiry.

Even as a sighted user I find it confusing when I land on something that gets announced as "Clickable, clickable, clickable" when it either is clickable, but all one would have to do is click once, or when it's not clickable at all. I am also wondering why the phrase "clickable link" gets used for some links while other links don't get the "clickable" designation, and I'm not talking about something that's stippled out. There seems to be little rhyme or reason to how/when the designation "clickable" gets used and how many times.

As to the multi-clickable announcement, I'll give an example for an object that is not clickable at all for a sighted user. When I go to the Gmail Settings, General Tab, I eventually can tab myself to the first part of the settings, which is Language. I will sometimes (and I just now could not replicate even landing there) land on what looks like the label for this group of settings. It will generally announce "clickable" three times, but there's nothing there that a sighted mouse user can click, and there's no hint as to what might be clickable there.

There are too many buttons and links to mention as I navigate through this page some of which say "clickable" when you land on them and others that do not. There's got to be a rhyme and reason here, but I cannot easily fathom what it is. I also think that saying "clickable link" is redundant and, if you have that rare instance where a given link is blocked, it would make more sense to announce that state of oddity than to ever announce that a link that can be clicked is "clickable."
--
Brian

I worry a lot. . . I worry that no matter how cynical you become it's never enough to keep up.
~ Trudy, in Jane Wagner's "Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe"


Re: setting up imap email

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Yes minewas set up a long time back as well. As amatter of interest, if you want to set up a second account how would one do this as it seems to be always forcing you to log in as the first one so to speak.
A friend has asked me to set one up for him.
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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 6:15 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] setting up imap email


NVDA reads the "gear button" as "Settings Menu Button" and will tell you "collapsed, submenu" until you activate it. It also mentions that you've landed on "toolbar" when you first hit any of the Google Toolbar buttons, of which the Settings Menu Button is only one.

The above presumes that you've already logged in to the Gmail web interface for any one of the services that has settings that you as a user are able to configure. Gmail is definitely among those.

Gmail should have IMAP access enabled by default these days, but if an account was set up years ago it might not. If you're trying to use a Gmail account in an email client I would simply try setting it up in that client first. Those that can do auto setup will always try IMAP first and if the account is not set up to allow IMAP it most likely will fail. Then you'd have to resort to going in to the Gmail account and turning it on.
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Re: setting up imap email

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Don't tempt me...
Some people feel as I do that its not very intuitive and if they have more than one address with different providers a common interface saves a lot of brain strain.

Besides, and although they have preserved a basic version, with web based email the supplier can and often has changed the interface potentially removing access to your email account. Microsoft did this when they rebranded to Outlook twice in fact.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Chao" <kevinchao89@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 4:45 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] setting up imap email


Is there an issue with gmail.com or inbox.google.com which makes yu want to
use a desktop native email client?

On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 8:29 AM Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:

I said that I have an account but I have never set up GMail to work with
an e-mail program. My point is that the gear icon may use wording that you
have to guess or consider the implications of when looking for it.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Kevin Huber <kevin.huber1@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Friday, August 19, 2016 10:26 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] setting up imap email

Hi:

If you want to set up a Gmail account, go to www.gmail.com.
If you do not have an existing gmail account, you will be presented
with the form that you have to fill out to creat a google account.

Remember, there will be a capcha that you will have to fill in as
well. I haven't done it in several years, but when I did it, they had
a link to an audio capcha but the audio was, at least for me, almost
impossible to understand. I think I ended up using Webvisom with
Firefox.
Kevin Huber

On 8/19/16, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
In programs, the gear icon very often is identified by screen-readers as
tools.
Evidently, on the Google page, you would look for some other name. I
don't
know what that name might be but it might imply that you can get to
settings
from there. Maybe something like options or preferences or something
else
that implies a relevant category.

I've never set Google up to be used with an external account in part
because, though I have an account, I've almost never used GMail.
Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Cearbhall O'Meadhra
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 8:53 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] setting up imap email


Hi all you Google users,



I cannot find the "gear" icon on the Google page for setting up a gmail
account.



Here is the instruction that I am following:

Step 1: Enable IMAP

You can retrieve your Gmail messages with a client or device that
supports
IMAP, like Microsoft Outlook or Apple Mail.

1. Sign in to Gmail.

2. Click the gear in the top right .

3. Select Settings.

4. Click Forwarding and POP/IMAP.

5. Select Enable IMAP.

6. Click Save Changes.

Note: This setting is not available while using the basic HTML view of
Gmail. To enable IMAP, use the standard view instead.



Wonderfully clear instructions! However, I am blocked at step 1! I cannot
find the "gear" icon on my screen. Can anyone tell me how to do it
without
sighted assistance, please?




All the best



Cearbhall

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Re: setting up imap email

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This is not the main issue. We are saying that this only sets up via webmail, and often you need to turn on pop3/Imap if you intend to use a client. I did manage to do this but like the origiinal poster the instructions on the website were less than clear. The button you need is called a different name to the name given in the instructions unless you can actually see it.

Googles audio is a lot better than it used to be, but still sometimes malfunttions.
I thought thy might be going over to a more obvios question based system.
After all google accounts still seem to get used by spammers so its obvious that wobbly wwriting is no longer a good way to stop this.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Huber" <kevin.huber1@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 4:26 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] setting up imap email


Hi:

If you want to set up a Gmail account, go to www.gmail.com.
If you do not have an existing gmail account, you will be presented
with the form that you have to fill out to creat a google account.

Remember, there will be a capcha that you will have to fill in as
well. I haven't done it in several years, but when I did it, they had
a link to an audio capcha but the audio was, at least for me, almost
impossible to understand. I think I ended up using Webvisom with
Firefox.
Kevin Huber

On 8/19/16, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
In programs, the gear icon very often is identified by screen-readers as
tools.
Evidently, on the Google page, you would look for some other name. I don't
know what that name might be but it might imply that you can get to settings
from there. Maybe something like options or preferences or something else
that implies a relevant category.

I've never set Google up to be used with an external account in part
because, though I have an account, I've almost never used GMail.
Gene
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From: Cearbhall O'Meadhra
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 8:53 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] setting up imap email


Hi all you Google users,



I cannot find the "gear" icon on the Google page for setting up a gmail
account.



Here is the instruction that I am following:

Step 1: Enable IMAP

You can retrieve your Gmail messages with a client or device that supports
IMAP, like Microsoft Outlook or Apple Mail.

1. Sign in to Gmail.

2. Click the gear in the top right .

3. Select Settings.

4. Click Forwarding and POP/IMAP.

5. Select Enable IMAP.

6. Click Save Changes.

Note: This setting is not available while using the basic HTML view of
Gmail. To enable IMAP, use the standard view instead.



Wonderfully clear instructions! However, I am blocked at step 1! I cannot
find the "gear" icon on my screen. Can anyone tell me how to do it without
sighted assistance, please?




All the best



Cearbhall

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FW: [Nvda-devel] FW: Possible issues with JOptionPane?

 

Hi Daniel,

Jamie from NV Access suggests joining the developers list, as the query you sent is best suited there.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: James Teh [mailto:jamie@...]
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 11:40 PM
To: NVDA screen reader development <nvda-devel@...>
Subject: Re: [Nvda-devel] FW: [nvda] Possible issues with JOptionPane?

 

I'd suggest requesting that the reporter join this list. It is a better place to discuss such things. Thanks!

 

On Sat, Aug 20, 2016 at 2:02 PM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:

Hi,

Any Java experts, would you like to take a shot at it? Thanks.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of NCC Underling
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 8:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Possible issues with JOptionPane?

 

Greetings all,

I'm having issues with Java applet demo here: https://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/uiswing/components/dialog.html

In my own testing, only 3 of the 15 possible dialogs announce the main dialog message. However, if I hover with the mouse pointer, or press the [NVDA]+B shortcut, then the message/warning text is annunciated.

I'd be happy to debug the issue (to some degree), but, at this stage am wondering if anyone is able to reproduce the same issue please?

I'm guessing the speech viewer simply echoes what is spoken (not what NVDA actually receives from accessible application?).

Any help would be much appreciated.

Thanks, Daniel


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Re: mobil voices on nvda

Tyler Spivey
 

Install this addon, and you'll have what was in next.
Keep in mind it might break, and should be uninstalled once the code gets merged back into next. It's working here, and adds two new synthesizers to the list.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1060978/sapi5mobile.nvda-addon?dl

I've verified that it matches git commit 4810483a989a8d4d3e57c1481ba63e5f8053b1b9 with minimal changes.

On 8/19/2016 5:49 PM, Bobby wrote:
Just to let you all know I'm using the latest snap shot of nvda and I am
not happy that the Mobil mark and eva voices aren't present. Please
tell me what happened to them because they were many snap shots before
this one



Re: mobil voices on nvda

 

From what I understand there was some regression in their use.
No idea what the final outcome was.
To be honest the easiest way to handle nvda is subscribe on the nvda dev skype group, I forget the link to that.
But this is where a lot of the users, devs well joseph mainly and a few of the translation team hang out.
I also know that nimer lerks there, he hardly posts but he does lerk because he has posted from time to time.
One good thing I can say with this group is that if there are any issues if joseph is on or others they will get reported but if they can be fixed they generally will be.

On 20/08/2016 12:53 p.m., Lino Morales wrote:
Bobby I suggest you take this up with James Teh and Michael Curren.
Maybe write Joseph Lee privately also. Maybe he can offer you some incite.


On 8/19/2016 8:49 PM, Bobby wrote:
Just to let you all know I'm using the latest snap shot of nvda and I
am not happy that the Mobil mark and eva voices aren't present. Please
tell me what happened to them because they were many snap shots before
this one