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Re: Going to the top and bottom of a window

John J. Boyer
 

I pressed nvda_1 to turn on learn mode. No functions were shown for
ctrl+numpad 4 or ctrl+numpad 9.

John

On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 05:47:20PM -0500, Gene wrote:
It does. If you are talking about using screen review keys, the commands are control numpad 7 and control numpad 9. That's for the desktop layout. I don't know the laptop commands. Did you look in the keys reference for such commands?

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: John J. Boyer
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 4:03 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Going to the top and bottom of a window


NVDA does not seem to have keysrokes for going to the top or bottom of
a window. The other screenreaders that I have tried do have such
keystrokes. Why doesn't NVDA?

Thanks,

--
John J. Boyer; President,
AbilitiesSoft, Inc.
Email: john.boyer@abilitiessoft.org
Website: http://www.abilitiessoft.org
Status: 501(C)(3) Nonprofit
Location: Madison, Wisconsin USA
Mission: To develop softwares and provide STEM services for people with
disabilities which are available at no cost.


--
John J. Boyer; President,
AbilitiesSoft, Inc.
Email: john.boyer@abilitiessoft.org
Website: http://www.abilitiessoft.org
Status: 501(C)(3) Nonprofit
Location: Madison, Wisconsin USA
Mission: To develop softwares and provide STEM services for people with
disabilities which are available at no cost.


Re: Going to the top and bottom of a window

John J. Boyer
 

I studied the User Guide extensively, but I didn't see those keys.
Thanks.

John

On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 05:47:20PM -0500, Gene wrote:
It does. If you are talking about using screen review keys, the commands are control numpad 7 and control numpad 9. That's for the desktop layout. I don't know the laptop commands. Did you look in the keys reference for such commands?

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: John J. Boyer
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 4:03 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Going to the top and bottom of a window


NVDA does not seem to have keysrokes for going to the top or bottom of
a window. The other screenreaders that I have tried do have such
keystrokes. Why doesn't NVDA?

Thanks,

--
John J. Boyer; President,
AbilitiesSoft, Inc.
Email: john.boyer@abilitiessoft.org
Website: http://www.abilitiessoft.org
Status: 501(C)(3) Nonprofit
Location: Madison, Wisconsin USA
Mission: To develop softwares and provide STEM services for people with
disabilities which are available at no cost.


--
John J. Boyer; President,
AbilitiesSoft, Inc.
Email: john.boyer@abilitiessoft.org
Website: http://www.abilitiessoft.org
Status: 501(C)(3) Nonprofit
Location: Madison, Wisconsin USA
Mission: To develop softwares and provide STEM services for people with
disabilities which are available at no cost.


Re: [NVDA] Going to the top and bottom of a window

Gene
 

This message is somewhat long but some people may find it useful. 
 
Control home and control end, when in a document are not NVDA commands.  They are Windows commands and will work whether a screen-reader is present or not.  A sighted person would see the cursor move.  The other command you gave, for screen review, is an NVDA command.
 
It is important to learn the difference between Screen-reader specifric commands and Windows or program commands.  That's because you can then use a computer with a different screen-reader, if necessary, and do a good deal if you have to not use your screen--reader of choice.  It also makes changing screen-readers much easier.  Even on your own computer this matters.  If you have to run Narrator for some reason, if you know the difference, you can use it immediately and do a good deal. 
 
In general, though this is not a perfect discrimination, commands that do things that do not rely specifically on vision are Windows commands.  Commands that do things that rely on vision are screen-reader commands.  For example, read current line and read title bar are screen--reader commands.  You need commands to announce these things, which a sighted person can simply look to see.  Control home and control end are Windows and Windows program commands.  They move the cursor in a program or edit field.  They are not just something you look at.  You are changing something in the program itself. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 4:49 PM
Subject: Re: [NVDA] Going to the top and bottom of a window

Hi,
NVDA sure does have key commands to go to the top orb bottom of a window. If
you are reading a document or such where the system carrot can follow along,
you can just press CTRL+Home or CTRL+End to go to the top and bottom. If you
are using the review cursor to read the text on objects, the laptop command
is NVDA+CTRL+Home or End.
That is it.
David Moore


-----Original Message-----
From: John J. Boyer
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 5:03 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Going to the top and bottom of a window

NVDA does not seem to have keysrokes for going to the top or bottom of
a window. The other screenreaders that I have tried do have such
keystrokes. Why doesn't NVDA?

Thanks,

--
John J. Boyer; President,
AbilitiesSoft, Inc.
Email: john.boyer@...
Website: http://www.abilitiessoft.org
Status: 501(C)(3) Nonprofit
Location: Madison, Wisconsin USA
Mission: To develop softwares and provide STEM services for people with
         disabilities which are available at no cost.







Re: Going to the top and bottom of a window

rajmund <brajmund2000@...>
 

Hi, control-home?

Sent from my iPhone 5S

On 10 Aug 2016, at 10:03 pm, John J. Boyer <john.boyer@...> wrote:

NVDA does not seem to have keysrokes for going to the top or bottom of
a window. The other screenreaders that I have tried do have such
keystrokes. Why doesn't NVDA?

Thanks,

--
John J. Boyer; President,
AbilitiesSoft, Inc.
Email: john.boyer@...
Website: http://www.abilitiessoft.org
Status: 501(C)(3) Nonprofit
Location: Madison, Wisconsin USA
Mission: To develop softwares and provide STEM services for people with
        disabilities which are available at no cost.





Re: Going to the top and bottom of a window

Gene
 

It does.  If you are talking about using screen review keys, the commands are control numpad 7 and control numpad 9.  That's for the desktop layout.  I don't know the laptop commands.  Did you look in the keys reference for such commands? 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 4:03 PM
Subject: [nvda] Going to the top and bottom of a window

NVDA does not seem to have keysrokes for going to the top or bottom of
a window. The other screenreaders that I have tried do have such
keystrokes. Why doesn't NVDA?

Thanks,

--
John J. Boyer; President,
AbilitiesSoft, Inc.
Email: john.boyer@...
Website: http://www.abilitiessoft.org
Status: 501(C)(3) Nonprofit
Location: Madison, Wisconsin USA
Mission: To develop softwares and provide STEM services for people with
         disabilities which are available at no cost.




Re: recent change

Gene
 

I've seen this discussed two or three times on this and, perhaps another list.  As I recall, there is no solution in terms of making adjustments in either program.  I believe you can solve it by using the speech dictionary.  Use the speech dictionary to cause nothing to be spoken when the phrase no associated drafts and the phrase associated drafts has been spoken.  My recollection is that I suggested this and that it worked.  If you need to know how to do this, let us know.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: slery
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 3:57 PM
Subject: [nvda] recent change

In the last few days, I have noticed a change in how nvda reads in Outlook 2016. It used to say unread, read the subject, then it read the author.

 

It has now started saying “no associated drafts” before reading anything else about the message. What can I do to change this?

 

Latest nvda

Outlook 2016 (office 365)

Windows 10

 

Cindy


Re: Going to the top and bottom of a window

David Moore
 

Hi,
NVDA sure does have those commands. If you are in a document or such where the system carrot can follow along, just press CTRL+Home or End. If you are using the review cursor to read text on an object, the laptop command to go to the top or bottom is: NVDA+CTRL+Home or End.
That is it.
David Moore

-----Original Message-----
From: John J. Boyer
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 5:03 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Going to the top and bottom of a window

NVDA does not seem to have keysrokes for going to the top or bottom of
a window. The other screenreaders that I have tried do have such
keystrokes. Why doesn't NVDA?

Thanks,

--
John J. Boyer; President,
AbilitiesSoft, Inc.
Email: john.boyer@abilitiessoft.org
Website: http://www.abilitiessoft.org
Status: 501(C)(3) Nonprofit
Location: Madison, Wisconsin USA
Mission: To develop softwares and provide STEM services for people with
disabilities which are available at no cost.


Re: [NVDA] Going to the top and bottom of a window

David Moore
 

Hi,
NVDA sure does have key commands to go to the top orb bottom of a window. If you are reading a document or such where the system carrot can follow along, you can just press CTRL+Home or CTRL+End to go to the top and bottom. If you are using the review cursor to read the text on objects, the laptop command is NVDA+CTRL+Home or End.
That is it.
David Moore

-----Original Message-----
From: John J. Boyer
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 5:03 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Going to the top and bottom of a window

NVDA does not seem to have keysrokes for going to the top or bottom of
a window. The other screenreaders that I have tried do have such
keystrokes. Why doesn't NVDA?

Thanks,

--
John J. Boyer; President,
AbilitiesSoft, Inc.
Email: john.boyer@abilitiessoft.org
Website: http://www.abilitiessoft.org
Status: 501(C)(3) Nonprofit
Location: Madison, Wisconsin USA
Mission: To develop softwares and provide STEM services for people with
disabilities which are available at no cost.


audioScreen.add on for nvda

Kenny Dog <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi guys

Has any one using NVDA with this add on used it on a touch display and
how did they find it.

the last I read about this add on I thought they stopped work on it but
it looks as though there is still work been done on it, but you will
need the latest version of nvda etc.

Gene nz




http://www.nvaccess.org/audioScreen/

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Re: mark voice

Lino Morales
 

Sorry you can't at the moment. Mark is apart of Narrator now.

On 8/10/2016 4:44 PM, Bobby wrote:
Hay I was wondering ware I can get Microsoft mark and eva. I did the windows 10 update last week and those voices didn't come with this update at all. I want those voices so I can start using them on nvda.



Going to the top and bottom of a window

John J. Boyer
 

NVDA does not seem to have keysrokes for going to the top or bottom of
a window. The other screenreaders that I have tried do have such
keystrokes. Why doesn't NVDA?

Thanks,

--
John J. Boyer; President,
AbilitiesSoft, Inc.
Email: john.boyer@abilitiessoft.org
Website: http://www.abilitiessoft.org
Status: 501(C)(3) Nonprofit
Location: Madison, Wisconsin USA
Mission: To develop softwares and provide STEM services for people with
disabilities which are available at no cost.


recent change

slery <slerythema@...>
 

In the last few days, I have noticed a change in how nvda reads in Outlook 2016. It used to say unread, read the subject, then it read the author.

 

It has now started saying “no associated drafts” before reading anything else about the message. What can I do to change this?

 

Latest nvda

Outlook 2016 (office 365)

Windows 10

 

Cindy


mark voice

Bobby <bvinton@...>
 

Hay I was wondering ware I can get Microsoft mark and eva. I did the windows 10 update last week and those voices didn't come with this update at all. I want those voices so I can start using them on nvda.


Re: Excel having a major lag when moving in between cells with NVDA

 

Hello,
Yes. I have also had the lag when I have exported lots of data into excel, mainly from quickbooks.
Thanks,

On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 8:30 AM, Mike Sedmak <mcsedmak@...> wrote:
I just first experienced this same lag issue yesterday when editing a
fairly simple spreadsheet.  I observed the lag even just using the
arrow keys to move between cells.
I tried another spreadsheet and did not see the lag.  The first
difference I noticed was that the "laggy" spreadsheet includes
comments...

Is this consistent with your experience?

Thanks,
Mike


On 8/10/16, Brandon Keith Biggs <brandonkeithbiggs@...> wrote:
> Hello,
> I am using the latest version of NVDA and Excel and I am suffering some
> major lag after doing actions like adding comments with shift+f2 and
> hitting OK.
> The lag is about 1.3 seconds and happens when moving between cells.
>
> Is there any kind of addon that increases the usability of the advanced
> features of Excel? For example, tables, graphs and charts?
> Thanks,
>
> Brandon Keith Biggs <http://brandonkeithbiggs.com/>
>





Re: Software Uninstallers

Kevin Cussick
 

Hi, I have the whole lot of utilities, will install later and play thanks for the pointer it is invaluable.

On 10/08/2016 12:22, Afrim wrote:
I think I used file recovery last year. You can download the set in an application rather than downloading aps one by one.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 9, 2016, at 10:36 PM, Kevin Cussick via Groups.io <the.big.white.shepherd=googlemail.com@groups.io> wrote:

have you tried anything else from this site?

On 09/08/2016 06:16, Afrim wrote:
I'm glad it works for you Kevin, I may post a short review on the group to introduce it to people.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 8, 2016, at 11:19 PM, Kevin Cussick via Groups.io <the.big.white.shepherd=googlemail.com@groups.io> wrote:

thanks very much this even beats the other program that I recommended, thanks again.

On 08/08/2016 21:14, Kevin Cussick via Groups.is wrote:
Yes please this would be good is it free or not? thanks in advance.

On 08/08/2016 05:59, Afrim wrote:
Hello,
I personally use Uninstaller from Puran Utilities, which is the most
accessible uninstaller I've ever seen.
If you'd like, I could give a link.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 7, 2016, at 4:20 PM, Carlos <gmjc341961@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello All!

Thank You! To everyone who suggested Bulk Crap Uninstaller as a
replacement for REVO Uninstaller.

Bulk Crap Uninstaller works great with NVDA! So, all who are not
happy with REVO can go ahead and say goodbye to REVO and use Bulk
Crap Uninstaller!

Thank You! To all who responded to the REVO is Inaccessible thread
and gave suggestions about better uninstaller software!



--
Carlos Gonzalez - Los Angeles, CA. - gmjc341961@gmail.com


Re: tahanks, and a please

Lino Morales
 

You might want to post directly to James Teh and Michael Curren. I don't think they are on this list only the NVDA add-on and DEV list. COrrect me if I'm wrong.


On 8/10/2016 3:32 PM, lali wrote:

Dear NVDA Developers!

 

A much, much thanks for you to dveloped nvda to  get started with win 10 anniversary update.

Can I have 2 questions?

1.       In Mail, If I type, I noticed, that the letters does not speak.

2.       If I am in edge, the b key for button is not working. Can you fix?

God bless!

Laller

 

 

Küldte a Windows 10 Posta

 



tahanks, and a please

lali.belteki1@...
 

Dear NVDA Developers!

 

A much, much thanks for you to dveloped nvda to  get started with win 10 anniversary update.

Can I have 2 questions?

1.       In Mail, If I type, I noticed, that the letters does not speak.

2.       If I am in edge, the b key for button is not working. Can you fix?

God bless!

Laller

 

 

Küldte a Windows 10 Posta

 


Mail app in WIN 10 broken again

Lino Morales
 

Just downloaded Mail app update and its saying read only with the newest update. I'm using master branch of NVDA.


Some issues coming between Google Chrome and NVDA

Dejan Ristic
 

Both the previous and the current version of Chrome have decreased some accessibility features as far as Facebook and Google Translate are concerned.


When I type in the search field what I wish to find on Facebook, I am no longer able to hear the list of the items found when I use the up and down arrows to go through them after I have typed my search term. NVDA only pronounces my search term when I up and down, but does not show the list of the items found as it did before. Compare Mozilla Firefox with Chrome, and all will be clear. The same goes for the Opera browser.


As for Google Translate, it is impossible for me to choose between the list of the source and target languages. The only NVDA-output pronounciation is: "list submenu expanded" and "list submenu collapsed". The same goes for the Opera browser.

When I handle it by Mozilla Firefox, I succeed in choosing between the desired source and target languages. It means that both lists are spoken correctly.


I use the latest version of NVDA, and the latest version of both Chrome and Opera.


My operating system is: Windows 7 Ultimate, 64bit.


Allow me to ask you whether you shake hands with the same issues?


Thankful in advance,

Dejan


Re: thank you so much nvda developers

Rajmund <brajmund2000@...>
 

Hi All,
OK, let's thank. So, I was playing on the laptop, with a client, also known as Quenton's play room, and was playing farkle. For those of you that don't know, its a game in which, you throw the dice, and keep scores, that worth points. Because I felt like it, I bought up window eyes, instead of NVDA. God, that thing didn't read what the person against me rolled, nor it read my list of options. Narrator at least read my options, but it wasn't much better. In other words, if not for NVDA, I couldn't play on it at all. And no, NVDA has absolutely no problems with any of the client.



Sent from a Braille Sense

----- Original Message -----
From: Jeremy <icu8it2@gmail.com>
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Date: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 6:04 pm
Subject: Re: [nvda] thank you so much nvda developers



Yay, hehe, that's excellent to hear. I've been a user of NVDA for quite
a while now and I can honestly say, it's never let me down.
That's awesome. :)

On 8/10/2016 9:52 AM, Zoe Fiogkos wrote:
Hey everybody, I just wanted to say thank you to the NVDA team. Last night
my laptop updated to the new version of windows 10 and this morning I went
into the settings to change things and check what the anniversary update had
done to my settings. I admit I went in with another screen reader and was
quickly frustrated in understanding what was on, off, etc. I switched to
NVDA and within 5 minutes I was done. Using NVDA made the experience
pleasant and quick. Also I want to mention that I have not been able to get
the other screen reader to read in another language. However using NVDA and
a vocalizer expressive voice I have bought I am able to successfully use
NVDA to read in my native tongue. So I just wanted to thank the NVDA team
for making my windows experience so pleasant. Thank you from the bottom of
my heart and keep up the good work.
Regards
Zoe


by the intersessions of the holy Theotokos, Lord have mercy on us. Jesus
said when I return will I find the faith, not will I find faith, but the
faith. So many will be shocked when he comes again in all his glory. My only
hope is that it won't be too late..