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Re: being able to detect a braille display when connecting it to a computer after nvda is started:

蔡宗豪 Victor Cai
 

Hi
If I don’t misunderstand your meaning,
you hope that NVDA have the ability to detect braille display when it is connected.

Please see issue #1271 for more discussion their.

Here is some quotes from developer:

Comment 30 by jteh on 2014-12-21 23:36

The current code is in the branch t1271a2. I got quite far with it, but got pulled away to other work and haven’t had a chance to revisit it.
To be honest, I actually can’t quite remember what problems still exist, though I know there was still work to do. I think one major problem is that there are some displays which stupidly use generic USB ids which might also be used by other displays, so the code needs to support trying more than one driver per USB id, which it doesn’t currently support.

Comment 31 by jteh on 2014-12-21 23:38

Oh, and of course, some of the drivers still need to be updated and detection data added. In particular, auto detection of Handy Tech is not yet supported and I also need to make the driver fail properly when no display is connected instead of succeeding and silently waiting for a display. This is all fairly tricky since I don’t have access to a Handy Tech device.

Thanks.

Regards,
Victor



being able to detect a braille display when connecting it to a computer after nvda is started:

p.wildcat1234@...
 

Hi I was wondering if nvda will have the ability to detect a braille display after you connect it to the computer after starting nvda without a display connected?  

Kenny Peyatt jr.

 

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Re: mobil voices for windows

Lino Morales
 

Stay tuned Bobby boy. Joeseph said in the next branch of the snapshots those voices should be available. I hope they make to NVDA 2016.3 in a few weeks.

On 8/12/2016 9:06 PM, Bobby wrote:
Hay I was wondering if nvda will ever support the Microsoft mark voice and eva voices. I would really like to start using those voices butt they won't work on nvda at all.



mobil voices for windows

Bobby <bvinton@...>
 

Hay I was wondering if nvda will ever support the Microsoft mark voice and eva voices. I would really like to start using those voices butt they won't work on nvda at all.


Re: Opening links to embedded files in Firefox

Gene
 

It has nothing to do with web sites.  If you look through the categories in options, one of them will be programs.  Use the search to find the file type you want, for example, type pdf.  Then down arrow and look at the results.  You can then tab around and see what is available for the result.  I believe you can arrow to the result in the find and then tab around and see options for that and other choices of actions.  But you will have to experiment and perhaps ask more questions.  You may have to, for example, open combo boxes as you tab to them and work with them so that you don't constantly loose your place in the dialog.  If you don't,, I believe the combo box takes an action each time you move and you are placed in another field.  I've almost never used this dialog, as I said.  I'm trying to give you some idea of how to work with it but I haven't used it to the extent that my explanation will be more than ideas for experimentation.
 
And if you do open a combo box and move to an item, I believe you have to press enter on the item once you move to it, though again, you will have to experiment.  Tabbing may be all you have to do.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2016 5:43 PM
Subject: [nvda] Opening links to embedded files in Firefox

Hi,

 

I hope someone can point out what I am not doing right!

 

I am using Firefox 47.0.1 Windows 10 and NVDA 2016 v2.1.

 

Lately, I find that I cannot open embedded links that point to a document in PDF or Word when it is embedded in a report or article in Firefox.  I used to be able to do this before. Can anyone explain what has happened? I think I read that some web sites need to know what reader tools are available in the calling browser, is this true?

 

I find that I do not have this problem in Internet Explorer (v11). There I have only to press space bar on the link to the file and it opens in Adobe Acrobat without any problem!

 

All the best,

Cearbhall

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Re: Opening links to embedded files in Firefox

 

Would you be able to supply the URL to an example of what you're having trouble with?

I can take a look and see how Firefox behaves for me and what may or may not be being announced or need to be tweaked.  I have Firefox set up to open all PDF files externally in the PDF reader of my choosing rather than in the browser using a plug-in.  I've never found any browser's PDF plug-in to be nearly as user friendly as the PDF Reader program of an individual user's choosing.


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Opening links to embedded files in Firefox

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Hi,

 

I hope someone can point out what I am not doing right!

 

I am using Firefox 47.0.1 Windows 10 and NVDA 2016 v2.1.

 

Lately, I find that I cannot open embedded links that point to a document in PDF or Word when it is embedded in a report or article in Firefox.  I used to be able to do this before. Can anyone explain what has happened? I think I read that some web sites need to know what reader tools are available in the calling browser, is this true?

 

I find that I do not have this problem in Internet Explorer (v11). There I have only to press space bar on the link to the file and it opens in Adobe Acrobat without any problem!

 

All the best,

Cearbhall

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Re: OT: Progressive sound add-on/extension for firefox

Jacob Kruger
 

Thanks, Lino, I know about that, but, the issue with firefox is that I think, that since it doesn't offer a status bar, or something, NVDA doesn't pick up page load progress, etc.


Not a major issue, either way.


Stay well


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On 2016-08-12 8:04 PM, Lino Morales wrote:
Hit NVDA plus U. Those are the progress beeps. It cycles from progress bee to spoken percentages etc.


On 8/12/2016 4:31 AM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
Don't know I do know about navigational sounds which sounds a dull dong sound when a page is loaded and has all the clicks and other noises IE has. It is seemingly working again in 48/9, as it went awol in 47 for some odd reason.

What I'd like to be able to stop is the bleeps Firefox makes if its playing a file directly from the web. This is very irritating.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Jacob Kruger" <jacob@blindza.co.za>
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Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 9:10 PM
Subject: [nvda] OT: Progressive sound add-on/extension for firefox


Sorry, just reinstalled latest version of firefox, to give it another go, and can't remember what the name was for the extension that offers a form of progress bar beeps for page loading?


TIA


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Re: Handling photos with Thunderbird

 

Gene NZ,

            I have the same result if an e-mail is sent with inline photos with alternate text, which makes them labeled graphics, which NVDA does announce as "Graphic," followed by whatever you entered in the alt text.

            Try your experiment without adding alt text, which is how the majority of people insert inline images.  Many e-mail clients don't give you any obvious, or any, way to add alt text.

             I'm curious what you find if you have unlabeled images, which you can insert via Thunderbird by selecting the "Don't use alternate text" radio button.

             I've also tried unchecking the "Attach image to message" checkbox, when using alternate text, and it's interesting to see that NVDA recognizes the intended presence of and image and reads the alt text, but not that I have a broken picture, not the picture itself, since if you don't attach the image then you must use an image URL in order for the actual image to display.
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Re: Handling photos with Thunderbird

Kenny Dog <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi Arnthor


I just had a play with adding a photo inline into a email so when you
open the email it is not a attachmement but inside of the email.


It let me insert a photo into the email inline, then i added alt text to
it then sent the email back to my self.


When it opened it took a little time to download and open from my
hotmail account but when the email opened it said graphic and also nvda
read out the alt text in the photo.


I was also able to save that photo to my desktop if I wanted to.


To do this go into the email to where you hear nVDA say graphic so you
know you are on the photo.


Next route your mouse to the graphic, then right clic.


A context menu will come up and one of the options will be to save the
image to your pc Press the enter key on it then direct it to where you
want it.


Done.


I could put up on my tutorial for thunderbird what to do to add alt text
to the file and also how to read it inline in a email and save it if you
and others might make use of it.


Gene nz

On 12/08/2016 10:23 PM, Arnþór Helgason wrote:
I do not know if this topic has been handled before.

Some people insert photos directly into the message instead of
creating attachments. When I worked as a journalist this caused
constant problems and the situation doesn't seem to have changed.
Does anyone know how to save photos which are included as a part of a
message?

Best regards,

Arnthor Helgason
arnthor.helgason@gmail.com



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Re: ncda 2016.1:

christopher hallsworth <challsworth2@...>
 

Very much so. However, 2016.3 will officially support the anniversary update from what I read.

On 12 Aug 2016, at 03:42, Kenny Peyattt jr. <p.wildcat1234@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi will nvda 2016.2.1 work with the anaversary update?
Kenny Peyatt jr.

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Re: OT: Progressive sound add-on/extension for firefox

Lino Morales
 

Hit NVDA plus U. Those are the progress beeps. It cycles from progress bee to spoken percentages etc.

On 8/12/2016 4:31 AM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
Don't know I do know about navigational sounds which sounds a dull dong sound when a page is loaded and has all the clicks and other noises IE has. It is seemingly working again in 48/9, as it went awol in 47 for some odd reason.

What I'd like to be able to stop is the bleeps Firefox makes if its playing a file directly from the web. This is very irritating.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Jacob Kruger" <jacob@blindza.co.za>
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Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 9:10 PM
Subject: [nvda] OT: Progressive sound add-on/extension for firefox


Sorry, just reinstalled latest version of firefox, to give it another go, and can't remember what the name was for the extension that offers a form of progress bar beeps for page loading?


TIA


Jacob Kruger
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Skype: BlindZA
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Re: Handling photos with Thunderbird

Gene
 

I just tried placing a background sound in a message because if there are image files on my computer, I'm not sure where.  Just as I suspected, I can follow the procedure I outlined to find the attachment if I read the message as plain text.  I believe that attaching sound files is not possible in the ribbon version of Windows Live Mail but I would expect that you can play them if you read the message as html and that if you read the message as plain text, that you can save the file as an attachment.  I don't know if thunderbird allows you to see embedded attachments.  Maybe that's a reason to have Windows Live Mail available if saving embedded attachments is important.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2016 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Handling photos with Thunderbird

It now appears to me that NVDA doesn't read unlabeled graphics even with object navigation. We'll see if anyone gives a more definitive answer.  As for photographs, I suspect that I am right, that you would see them as attachments, if not in the attachments list, then perhaps as I described.  You do in Windows Live Mail and in Outlook Express, at least see the html file, as I said.  And the context menu does have a save as option. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
 
Gene

From: Gene
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2016 10:31 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Handling photos with Thunderbird

I am not aware of any such setting.  I believe NVDA announces graphics if you use object navigation but I've hardly played with this and I'm not at all sure. 
 
As far as photographs are concerned, if you send them and read a message as text, does an e-mail program see them as attachments?  If I read mail as plain text using Windows Live Mail, I can open a message, tab and shift tab, and see the html file as though it were an attachment, which it technically is.  I can open it in a browser.  Can that be done with photographs as well and then can they be saved?  Or perhaps if you open the context menu, you can save them, though I've never checked. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2016 10:13 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Handling photos with Thunderbird

Arnþór,

            I've just done some experimenting and I see what you mean.  I have sent messages to an account I have in Thunderbird from another account I have in Thunderbird and from a Gmail account using their interface as well.  What I have discovered, unless I am not aware of how to get focus on the inline photos, is that NVDA does not gain focus on inline photos that have not been sent such that they include alternate text that describes the photo.  Since a great many e-mail interfaces don't even provide the mechanism to add alternate text, let alone force someone to provide it, when I'm reading messages in NVDA where I just stuck photos in the message inline that don't have alternate text they simply don't seem to exist - all that reads is the text in the message but absolutely no mention at all of the fact that graphics are included is made.

            When I have included alternate text, which Thunderbird's own add image command strongly encourages by default (it won't let you include unless you explicitly include alternate text by default or have to select the radio button to intentionally omit it), NVDA announces "Graphic" followed by the alternate text and gets focus on the images as independent items when you work your way through the message.

            Once you have focus on any image it's pretty straightforward to save it by bringing up the Context Menu and choosing to save the image.

            I have to imagine that there is a setting in NVDA to tell it to announce the presence of unlabeled graphics, and if you know that you will be receiving many e-mail messages that have inline photos that should probably be turned on so that you can get focus on them.  I would expect that most inline photos you ever receive are much, much more likely to have no alternate text to label them.  Often people will discuss what the image is before inserting it, so it's been described, and many e-mail interfaces just don't force the entry of alternate text for an image.

             If someone can quickly point me to how to make NVDA announce unlabeled images in an e-mail message body I can see what happens.  I don't know if this setting, if it exists, is globally applicable or not.  If so you'll probably be turning it on when you know or suspect you have something that has unlabeled images you want to save then off again afterward.

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Re: Handling photos with Thunderbird

Gene
 

It now appears to me that NVDA doesn't read unlabeled graphics even with object navigation. We'll see if anyone gives a more definitive answer.  As for photographs, I suspect that I am right, that you would see them as attachments, if not in the attachments list, then perhaps as I described.  You do in Windows Live Mail and in Outlook Express, at least see the html file, as I said.  And the context menu does have a save as option. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
 
Gene

From: Gene
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2016 10:31 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Handling photos with Thunderbird

I am not aware of any such setting.  I believe NVDA announces graphics if you use object navigation but I've hardly played with this and I'm not at all sure. 
 
As far as photographs are concerned, if you send them and read a message as text, does an e-mail program see them as attachments?  If I read mail as plain text using Windows Live Mail, I can open a message, tab and shift tab, and see the html file as though it were an attachment, which it technically is.  I can open it in a browser.  Can that be done with photographs as well and then can they be saved?  Or perhaps if you open the context menu, you can save them, though I've never checked. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2016 10:13 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Handling photos with Thunderbird

Arnþór,

            I've just done some experimenting and I see what you mean.  I have sent messages to an account I have in Thunderbird from another account I have in Thunderbird and from a Gmail account using their interface as well.  What I have discovered, unless I am not aware of how to get focus on the inline photos, is that NVDA does not gain focus on inline photos that have not been sent such that they include alternate text that describes the photo.  Since a great many e-mail interfaces don't even provide the mechanism to add alternate text, let alone force someone to provide it, when I'm reading messages in NVDA where I just stuck photos in the message inline that don't have alternate text they simply don't seem to exist - all that reads is the text in the message but absolutely no mention at all of the fact that graphics are included is made.

            When I have included alternate text, which Thunderbird's own add image command strongly encourages by default (it won't let you include unless you explicitly include alternate text by default or have to select the radio button to intentionally omit it), NVDA announces "Graphic" followed by the alternate text and gets focus on the images as independent items when you work your way through the message.

            Once you have focus on any image it's pretty straightforward to save it by bringing up the Context Menu and choosing to save the image.

            I have to imagine that there is a setting in NVDA to tell it to announce the presence of unlabeled graphics, and if you know that you will be receiving many e-mail messages that have inline photos that should probably be turned on so that you can get focus on them.  I would expect that most inline photos you ever receive are much, much more likely to have no alternate text to label them.  Often people will discuss what the image is before inserting it, so it's been described, and many e-mail interfaces just don't force the entry of alternate text for an image.

             If someone can quickly point me to how to make NVDA announce unlabeled images in an e-mail message body I can see what happens.  I don't know if this setting, if it exists, is globally applicable or not.  If so you'll probably be turning it on when you know or suspect you have something that has unlabeled images you want to save then off again afterward.

--
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Re: Handling photos with Thunderbird

Gene
 

I am not aware of any such setting.  I believe NVDA announces graphics if you use object navigation but I've hardly played with this and I'm not at all sure. 
 
As far as photographs are concerned, if you send them and read a message as text, does an e-mail program see them as attachments?  If I read mail as plain text using Windows Live Mail, I can open a message, tab and shift tab, and see the html file as though it were an attachment, which it technically is.  I can open it in a browser.  Can that be done with photographs as well and then can they be saved?  Or perhaps if you open the context menu, you can save them, though I've never checked. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2016 10:13 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Handling photos with Thunderbird

Arnþór,

            I've just done some experimenting and I see what you mean.  I have sent messages to an account I have in Thunderbird from another account I have in Thunderbird and from a Gmail account using their interface as well.  What I have discovered, unless I am not aware of how to get focus on the inline photos, is that NVDA does not gain focus on inline photos that have not been sent such that they include alternate text that describes the photo.  Since a great many e-mail interfaces don't even provide the mechanism to add alternate text, let alone force someone to provide it, when I'm reading messages in NVDA where I just stuck photos in the message inline that don't have alternate text they simply don't seem to exist - all that reads is the text in the message but absolutely no mention at all of the fact that graphics are included is made.

            When I have included alternate text, which Thunderbird's own add image command strongly encourages by default (it won't let you include unless you explicitly include alternate text by default or have to select the radio button to intentionally omit it), NVDA announces "Graphic" followed by the alternate text and gets focus on the images as independent items when you work your way through the message.

            Once you have focus on any image it's pretty straightforward to save it by bringing up the Context Menu and choosing to save the image.

            I have to imagine that there is a setting in NVDA to tell it to announce the presence of unlabeled graphics, and if you know that you will be receiving many e-mail messages that have inline photos that should probably be turned on so that you can get focus on them.  I would expect that most inline photos you ever receive are much, much more likely to have no alternate text to label them.  Often people will discuss what the image is before inserting it, so it's been described, and many e-mail interfaces just don't force the entry of alternate text for an image.

             If someone can quickly point me to how to make NVDA announce unlabeled images in an e-mail message body I can see what happens.  I don't know if this setting, if it exists, is globally applicable or not.  If so you'll probably be turning it on when you know or suspect you have something that has unlabeled images you want to save then off again afterward.

--
Brian

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         ~ Trudy, in Jane Wagner's "Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe"

    



Re: Handling photos with Thunderbird

 

Arnþór,

            I've just done some experimenting and I see what you mean.  I have sent messages to an account I have in Thunderbird from another account I have in Thunderbird and from a Gmail account using their interface as well.  What I have discovered, unless I am not aware of how to get focus on the inline photos, is that NVDA does not gain focus on inline photos that have not been sent such that they include alternate text that describes the photo.  Since a great many e-mail interfaces don't even provide the mechanism to add alternate text, let alone force someone to provide it, when I'm reading messages in NVDA where I just stuck photos in the message inline that don't have alternate text they simply don't seem to exist - all that reads is the text in the message but absolutely no mention at all of the fact that graphics are included is made.

            When I have included alternate text, which Thunderbird's own add image command strongly encourages by default (it won't let you include unless you explicitly include alternate text by default or have to select the radio button to intentionally omit it), NVDA announces "Graphic" followed by the alternate text and gets focus on the images as independent items when you work your way through the message.

            Once you have focus on any image it's pretty straightforward to save it by bringing up the Context Menu and choosing to save the image.

            I have to imagine that there is a setting in NVDA to tell it to announce the presence of unlabeled graphics, and if you know that you will be receiving many e-mail messages that have inline photos that should probably be turned on so that you can get focus on them.  I would expect that most inline photos you ever receive are much, much more likely to have no alternate text to label them.  Often people will discuss what the image is before inserting it, so it's been described, and many e-mail interfaces just don't force the entry of alternate text for an image.

             If someone can quickly point me to how to make NVDA announce unlabeled images in an e-mail message body I can see what happens.  I don't know if this setting, if it exists, is globally applicable or not.  If so you'll probably be turning it on when you know or suspect you have something that has unlabeled images you want to save then off again afterward.

--
Brian

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         ~ Trudy, in Jane Wagner's "Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe"

    



about ocr add-on

Olcay AŞCI
 

Hi

I don't know if it is possible to use efficiently, but I think the OCR module is insufficient. Free programs the use of sub-structures or algorithms with other modules a module must be tested and smoother it should be combined with the OCR module. so I want to do a research study. you should share your information? definitely decent especially for the Turkish language say that it's not a module.


Handling photos with Thunderbird

Arnþór Helgason
 

I do not know if this topic has been handled before.

Some people insert photos directly into the message instead of creating attachments. When I worked as a journalist this caused constant problems and the situation doesn't seem to have changed.
Does anyone know how to save photos which are included as a part of a message?

Best regards,

Arnthor Helgason
arnthor.helgason@gmail.com


Re: OT: Progressive sound add-on/extension for firefox

Jacob Kruger
 

Thanks, will try it out, it offers navigation start and end beeps, but, let's see.


Jacob Kruger
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On 2016-08-12 10:31 AM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
Don't know I do know about navigational sounds which sounds a dull dong sound when a page is loaded and has all the clicks and other noises IE has. It is seemingly working again in 48/9, as it went awol in 47 for some odd reason.

What I'd like to be able to stop is the bleeps Firefox makes if its playing a file directly from the web. This is very irritating.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Jacob Kruger" <jacob@blindza.co.za>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 9:10 PM
Subject: [nvda] OT: Progressive sound add-on/extension for firefox


Sorry, just reinstalled latest version of firefox, to give it another go, and can't remember what the name was for the extension that offers a form of progress bar beeps for page loading?


TIA


Jacob Kruger
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Re: !

Gene
 

It appears to be spam.  If it continues, I'll check to see if this person is a member.  If she is, her account may be hacked and she should change her password. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2016 3:32 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] !

What exactly is this link for Nobody clicks links they do not know the
source of.
 Brian

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Subject: [nvda] !


> http://goo.gl/rVMRLn#639=isjvu&4834&qiseh==37521259
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