Date   

Re: podcast on the assistive technology offer for people to upgrade to windows 10:

Roger Stewart
 

Doesn't apply to me as I've already upgraded but I'd be very interested in learning how this works.

Thanks.

Roger









On 7/29/2016 11:37 PM, Kenny Peyattt jr. wrote:

Hi nvda users, I thought about doing a podcast on how the free upgrade process would work with people who use assistive technology. The question I have is would anybody would be interested if I did a podcast on how this process would work?

Kenny Peyatt jr.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 



podcast on the assistive technology offer for people to upgrade to windows 10:

Kenny Peyatt <p.wildcat1234@...>
 

Hi nvda users, I thought about doing a podcast on how the free upgrade process would work with people who use assistive technology. The question I have is would anybody would be interested if I did a podcast on how this process would work?

Kenny Peyatt jr.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: NVDA and Outlook message status

 

Arlene,

            You can be logged in to your Gmail account from multiple devices in multiple locations at the same time.  There is no need to log out of any of them.  I am routinely logged in to my Gmail accounts, plural, via my laptop and smartphone and very often another desktop computer, too.  It is not necessary to log out on any one of those devices to log in on any others.


--
Brian

I worry a lot. . . I worry that no matter how cynical you become it's never enough to keep up.

         ~ Trudy, in Jane Wagner's "Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe"

    



Re: NVDA and Outlook message status

Arlene
 

Hi there: I have gmail connected to outlook 2010. How do I sign out of it when I want to sign in  gmail on another device? My friend’s 13 year old nephew said I have to sign my windows 7 box out of gmail so I can sign in on another device. How does one do it? Sorry if I don’t make sense. I tried to create an account using my gmail on my friend’s I pad while I was on vacation. Then her nephew said I should have signed my computer out of gmail. This computer is my main computer using it.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: July-29-16 8:36 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Outlook message status

 

Pranav,

           I am using Outlook 2010 with Conversations view, sorted by date, descending.  I think I may have removed a default column when playing around and I don't recall whether I put it back or not, but I do know that whether or not I did the behaviors I've described are consistent between NVDA and Window-Eyes, both their latest versions.

           The columns I have on display are one that switches you out of Conversations view, but not back in, and that has no hover text.  The rest are labeled with hover text and follow from left to right after that switch column in the following order:  Importance, Icon, Attachment, From, Subject, Received, Size, Flag.

--
Brian

I worry a lot. . . I worry that no matter how cynical you become it's never enough to keep up.

         ~ Trudy, in Jane Wagner's "Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe"

    

 


Re: Reading boxes in Microsoft Word

Pranav Lal
 

Hi Kevin,

If the graphics consist of text that has been made into a picture, you will have to use OCR. You will have to unzip the docx file and OCR the images that you will find in the media folder. If however, the images have alternative text tags, then the following post from Jean NZ will help.

Pranav
Hi

I hope i have got it right that you want.

for example when you open the document then go to the top of the page, change nvda into browse mode.
Is it the text out of the graphics you want? If so press the letter G for graphic say to get to the first one. It will read out a bit of stuf of which I remembered the first and last word of the alt text.

Next I used the nvda key + the spacebar to go into focus mode on the grphic.

The next step was to used the numeric keypad. Make sure numlock is off.
I noted the first and last word, so I could figure out what was what.

Next i use the number 7 on the numeric keypad to use the review text cursor to take me one line up at a time to where the first word was. I thenused either the number 4 or 6 to find the start of the line of the sentence.
I then used the number one on the numeric keypad to take me to the very first letter of the sentence. Next i used the nvda key + the f9 key to start the mark which was at the start of the sentence.

I then used the number 9 on the numeric keypad to take me down one line at a time.
When I got to the very last line and it was read out, then I used the number 6 to take me one word to the right till i go to the last work.
The next thing I done was used the number 3 to take me one character to the right until i was at the end of the work say full stop.
Then I used the nvda key + the f 10 key to finish the mark.
to see if it was copied right then i used the nvda key + the letter C and it was spoken out.

On the numeric keypad the number 7 was previous sentence, 8 is curent, 9 is next
4 was previous word, 5 was current, and 6 was next.
1 was previous character, 2 was current and 3 was next.

I got the wife to verify that it was the text spoken from the graphic that was copied.

You will need to change back to browse mode to repeat teh process on another and do what was said above to each graphic .

hope this helps.

Hopefully this is what you meant.

Gene nz

<b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website for NVDA tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight related topics.
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ If you would like to keep up to date with whats being updated on our website, you can also follow us on facebook by visiting the following link https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which NZ libraries have the NVDA screen reader available by visiting the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries
To download your own copy of the free NVDA screen reader please visit http://www.nvaccess.org/ To get your free copy of the SpeechHub synthesiser package (which works well with NVDA), the SpeakOn MediaSuite (which is a self voicing application), or the SpeakOn CalcPad (calculator program) please visit http://www.speakon.org.uk/<b>

On 27/01/2016 8:36 p.m., Brandon Keith Biggs wrote:
Hello,
Yes, here is an example.
Please search for the second *~* in the document. Arrow down a couple
times and you will find it.
Object review does not seem to work for me.
*note* NVDA will read it with up and down arrow, but not with left or
right arrow.
Thanks,


Brandon Keith Biggs <http://brandonkeithbiggs.com/>

On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 7:49 PM, Gene NZ
<hurrikennyandopo@outlook.co.nz
<mailto:hurrikennyandopo@outlook.co.nz>> wrote:

Hi

Have you got a example?

I know on graphics if i want to know what it says aftr it has been
spoken out, I can use the review text cursor in nvda. It will even
let me do it right down to character.

I have not got any here to try it out on to see if the same thing
can be used.

Gene nz

<b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website
for NVDA tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight
related topics.
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ If you would like to keep up
to date with whats being updated on our website, you can also
follow us on facebook by visiting
the following link
https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which NZ libraries have the NVDA screen reader
available by visiting the following link
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries
To download your own copy of the free NVDA screen reader please
visit http://www.nvaccess.org/
To get your free copy of the SpeechHub synthesiser package (which
works well with NVDA), the SpeakOn MediaSuite (which is a self
voicing application), or the SpeakOn CalcPad
(calculator program) please visit http://www.speakon.org.uk/<b>

On 27/01/2016 7:49 a.m., Brandon Keith Biggs wrote:

Hello,
Does anyone know how to read letter by letter in the alt text
of a graphic in MS word? My school sends me books with alt
text on graphics and NVDA will read the alt text, but often
there are equations in the alt text and I can't arrow through
the equation to read what it says slowly.
Does anyone know how to do this?
Thank you,

Brandon Keith Biggs <http://brandonkeithbiggs.com/>



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-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin Huber
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2016 9:01 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Reading boxes in Microsoft Word

Hi:

I have a Microsoft Word document with graphics contained in it. These graphics contain text. How can I read the text within these graphics using NVDA.
Kevin Huber


Re: Reading boxes in Microsoft Word

Kenny Dog <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi Kevin


I just had a look at a microsoft word tutorial I am putting together
even in browse mode as well as focus mode it will read the picture in
it. If there is no ALT text put into it you will just hear graphic.

I did put ALT text into my graphic/photo, so that is why it is read out.


Is the graphic picture or what ever it is on the web they might not have
put in ALT text to say what the graphic/photo etc is about.


Gene nz


I think with a table if there was alt text you had to use the NVDA key +
the letter D in the master snapshot.


Gene nz

On 30/07/2016 3:30 AM, Kevin Huber wrote:
Hi:

I have a Microsoft Word document with graphics contained in it. These
graphics contain text. How can I read the text within these graphics
using NVDA.
Kevin Huber


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Re: NVDA with Dialog Box

Gene
 

Try turning off browse mode when you are in the dialog.  Then see what keys, if any, do and read anything. 
 
Gene

Sent: Friday, July 29, 2016 10:54 AM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA with Dialog Box

Hello group,

I was filling out a form online for something recently, and there was
a field that asks for one to select a category.

I pressed enter on the given link, and it said that for screen
readers, the link does not work, go to previous link.

The previous link was just called category, and the field before that
is subject. I could fill that in with my created topic.
So, there is subject, forward tab once to category, tab forward again
to "link category.

When pressing enter on "category" NVDA says dialog box. Arrow keys and
or tab keys do not show any named categories; control home and control
end, NVDA just says "blank."

Is there something I am missing here?

Thanks in advance for input.

--
David Russell
david.sonofhashem@...
Character consists of what you do on the third and fourth tries.
James A. Michener



Re: NVDA AND GOOGLE CLASSROOM

Kevin Huber
 

Thanks Brian:

I will look into that.
Kevin Huber

On 7/29/16, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
Kevin,

Typically, so long as the user is logged into any Google service
under the userid that is necessary, direct links even "deep into the bowels"
of another Google service they're authorized to use will work. I'd
definitely look into bookmarking the direct link to the page she uses most
often, then emphasizing that she should either keep herself logged in to
Gmail or log herself into Gmail before activating that bookmark. Also, of
course, all of this must occur under a single web browser. It does no good
if you're logged into your Google account for Gmail under IE and then try to
access the Google Classroom site using, for instance, Chrome. The cookies
that identify the user and that they're logged in have to be shared.
--
Brian

I worry a lot. . . I worry that no matter how cynical you become it's never
enough to keep up.
~ Trudy, in Jane Wagner's "Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in
the Universe"


Re: NVDA AND GOOGLE CLASSROOM

 

Kevin,

          Typically, so long as the user is logged into any Google service under the userid that is necessary, direct links even "deep into the bowels" of another Google service they're authorized to use will work.  I'd definitely look into bookmarking the direct link to the page she uses most often, then emphasizing that she should either keep herself logged in to Gmail or log herself into Gmail before activating that bookmark.   Also, of course, all of this must occur under a single web browser.  It does no good if you're logged into your Google account for Gmail under IE and then try to access the Google Classroom site using, for instance, Chrome.  The cookies that identify the user and that they're logged in have to be shared.
--
Brian

I worry a lot. . . I worry that no matter how cynical you become it's never enough to keep up.

         ~ Trudy, in Jane Wagner's "Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe"

    



Re: NVDA AND GOOGLE CLASSROOM

Kevin Huber
 

Hi Brian:
That's a good point.

Thank you for the tip.
I am working with a student who is using a link that is provided by
her schoolboard to that page that I was talkking about, through which
she accesses her classroonm and the other apps that she uses.
I will see if her classroom can be accessed directly.
Kevin Huber

On 7/29/16, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
Also, as an FYI, virtually all of the various Google sites/web apps can be
reached using the general form {appname}.google.com if you're logged in
under the account that has access to that given app. For example:

mail.google.com

docs.google.com or drive.google.com

calendar.google.com

classroom.google.com (which I can get to the main window, but no further,
because I don't have an account for this service)

I use this technique to bring up these different Google services/apps as
frequently, if not more frequently, than ever using the app launch key on
any of the Google app screens.

--
Brian

I worry a lot. . . I worry that no matter how cynical you become it's never
enough to keep up.
~ Trudy, in Jane Wagner's "Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in
the Universe"


Re: NVDA with Dialog Box

Arianna Sepulveda
 

You may need to use object navigation to access this dialogue.


Thanks,
Ari

On Jul 29, 2016, at 8:54 AM, David Russell <david.sonofhashem@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello group,

I was filling out a form online for something recently, and there was
a field that asks for one to select a category.

I pressed enter on the given link, and it said that for screen
readers, the link does not work, go to previous link.

The previous link was just called category, and the field before that
is subject. I could fill that in with my created topic.
So, there is subject, forward tab once to category, tab forward again
to "link category.

When pressing enter on "category" NVDA says dialog box. Arrow keys and
or tab keys do not show any named categories; control home and control
end, NVDA just says "blank."

Is there something I am missing here?

Thanks in advance for input.

--
David Russell
david.sonofhashem@gmail.com
Character consists of what you do on the third and fourth tries.
James A. Michener



Re: NVDA AND GOOGLE CLASSROOM

Kevin Chao
 

Yes, Google Classroom is fully accessible, even with NVDA


On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 8:30 AM Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

Also, as an FYI, virtually all of the various Google sites/web apps can be reached using the general form  {appname}.google.com if you're logged in under the account that has access to that given app.  For example:

mail.google.com

docs.google.com or drive.google.com

calendar.google.com

classroom.google.com  (which I can get to the main window, but no further, because I don't have an account for this service)

I use this technique to bring up these different Google services/apps as frequently, if not more frequently, than ever using the app launch key on any of the Google app screens.

--
Brian

I worry a lot. . . I worry that no matter how cynical you become it's never enough to keep up.

         ~ Trudy, in Jane Wagner's "Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe"

    



NVDA with Dialog Box

David Russell
 

Hello group,

I was filling out a form online for something recently, and there was
a field that asks for one to select a category.

I pressed enter on the given link, and it said that for screen
readers, the link does not work, go to previous link.

The previous link was just called category, and the field before that
is subject. I could fill that in with my created topic.
So, there is subject, forward tab once to category, tab forward again
to "link category.

When pressing enter on "category" NVDA says dialog box. Arrow keys and
or tab keys do not show any named categories; control home and control
end, NVDA just says "blank."

Is there something I am missing here?

Thanks in advance for input.

--
David Russell
david.sonofhashem@gmail.com
Character consists of what you do on the third and fourth tries.
James A. Michener


Re: How to reach cookie warning banners in Windows 10

Gene
 

Which would explain, if it is correct, why I've never seen such a message.  I don't use do not track. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2016 10:42 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Fwd: How to reach cookie warning banners in Windows 10

Hello,

If I'm understanding correctly, this message is by the web page. It is part of the web page itself and can be found, read and interact with within the virtual buffer. Where in the virtual buffer it will be, depends on the web page in question. Usually it is either on the top or on the bottom of the page. There the user can find a control (button, link, clickable item, or something similar), witch will allow the user to dismiss the message. But it is not necessary to dismiss it - it can safely be ignored - it is just an informative message - nothing else. This message will most certainly appear in a web page if the "Do not track" feature of the browser in use is enabled. At least those are my observations.

______
Best wishes,
Kostadin Kolev


На 29.7.2016 г. в 18:35, Gene написа:
But the question is why is this being seen?  Also, it isn't clear whether this is a part of a web page or something displayed by the browser. F6 will only be useful if the item is displayed as certain kinds of structures by the browser and not by the web page itself.  We don't know.  We need more information.  If possible, a link to one of the pages where this occurs should be given.  List members need to see if they see the item when going to the page.  This may be something that a browser settings change will correct.  Or it may not.  Whatever it is, we need more information. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, July 29, 2016 9:48 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Fwd: How to reach cookie warning banners in Windows 10

Hi Brian:
Try pressing f6 once or twice, I think that is the command to switch
from one pane to another.
Kevin Huber


On 7/28/16, Brian Crabtree <pandbcrabtree@...> wrote:
> Excuse me for posting this question again. Perhaps because of heavy focus on
> other topics, it got no replies the first time, but there must be folks out
> there who can supply answers.
>
> Please could someone suggest how to reach and dismiss the banner that comes
> up on websites, advising me that the site uses cookies.
>
> There is an x at the end of the banner, but I have tried everything I know,
> firstly to navigate to the banner and then to reach the x to dismiss it with
> NVDA and cannot get anywhere near it. I am on Windows 10 and the latest
> official release of NVDA.
>
> Is there perhaps a Windows command which helps? Brian Crabtree
>
>
>




Re: How to reach cookie warning banners in Windows 10

 

Hello,

If I'm understanding correctly, this message is by the web page. It is part of the web page itself and can be found, read and interact with within the virtual buffer. Where in the virtual buffer it will be, depends on the web page in question. Usually it is either on the top or on the bottom of the page. There the user can find a control (button, link, clickable item, or something similar), witch will allow the user to dismiss the message. But it is not necessary to dismiss it - it can safely be ignored - it is just an informative message - nothing else. This message will most certainly appear in a web page if the "Do not track" feature of the browser in use is enabled. At least those are my observations.

______
Best wishes,
Kostadin Kolev


На 29.7.2016 г. в 18:35, Gene написа:

But the question is why is this being seen?  Also, it isn't clear whether this is a part of a web page or something displayed by the browser. F6 will only be useful if the item is displayed as certain kinds of structures by the browser and not by the web page itself.  We don't know.  We need more information.  If possible, a link to one of the pages where this occurs should be given.  List members need to see if they see the item when going to the page.  This may be something that a browser settings change will correct.  Or it may not.  Whatever it is, we need more information. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, July 29, 2016 9:48 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Fwd: How to reach cookie warning banners in Windows 10

Hi Brian:
Try pressing f6 once or twice, I think that is the command to switch
from one pane to another.
Kevin Huber


On 7/28/16, Brian Crabtree <pandbcrabtree@...> wrote:
> Excuse me for posting this question again. Perhaps because of heavy focus on
> other topics, it got no replies the first time, but there must be folks out
> there who can supply answers.
>
> Please could someone suggest how to reach and dismiss the banner that comes
> up on websites, advising me that the site uses cookies.
>
> There is an x at the end of the banner, but I have tried everything I know,
> firstly to navigate to the banner and then to reach the x to dismiss it with
> NVDA and cannot get anywhere near it. I am on Windows 10 and the latest
> official release of NVDA.
>
> Is there perhaps a Windows command which helps? Brian Crabtree
>
>
>




Re: NVDA and Outlook message status

 

Kevin,

           Very interesting.  There's definitely something quirky about Outlook 2010 and screen readers, but I don't yet know what it is or if it can be resolved as far as the functionality under discussion.  You can be quite sure that Microsoft isn't doing any major fixes to Office 2010 at this point in time, so if there isn't a way to fix this that hasn't yet been revealed, but that exists, there probably won't be either.

--
Brian

I worry a lot. . . I worry that no matter how cynical you become it's never enough to keep up.

         ~ Trudy, in Jane Wagner's "Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe"

    



Re: NVDA and Outlook message status

 

Pranav,

           I am using Outlook 2010 with Conversations view, sorted by date, descending.  I think I may have removed a default column when playing around and I don't recall whether I put it back or not, but I do know that whether or not I did the behaviors I've described are consistent between NVDA and Window-Eyes, both their latest versions.

           The columns I have on display are one that switches you out of Conversations view, but not back in, and that has no hover text.  The rest are labeled with hover text and follow from left to right after that switch column in the following order:  Importance, Icon, Attachment, From, Subject, Received, Size, Flag.

--
Brian

I worry a lot. . . I worry that no matter how cynical you become it's never enough to keep up.

         ~ Trudy, in Jane Wagner's "Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe"

    



Re: How to reach cookie warning banners in Windows 10

Gene
 

But the question is why is this being seen?  Also, it isn't clear whether this is a part of a web page or something displayed by the browser. F6 will only be useful if the item is displayed as certain kinds of structures by the browser and not by the web page itself.  We don't know.  We need more information.  If possible, a link to one of the pages where this occurs should be given.  List members need to see if they see the item when going to the page.  This may be something that a browser settings change will correct.  Or it may not.  Whatever it is, we need more information. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, July 29, 2016 9:48 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Fwd: How to reach cookie warning banners in Windows 10

Hi Brian:
Try pressing f6 once or twice, I think that is the command to switch
from one pane to another.
Kevin Huber


On 7/28/16, Brian Crabtree <pandbcrabtree@...> wrote:
> Excuse me for posting this question again. Perhaps because of heavy focus on
> other topics, it got no replies the first time, but there must be folks out
> there who can supply answers.
>
> Please could someone suggest how to reach and dismiss the banner that comes
> up on websites, advising me that the site uses cookies.
>
> There is an x at the end of the banner, but I have tried everything I know,
> firstly to navigate to the banner and then to reach the x to dismiss it with
> NVDA and cannot get anywhere near it. I am on Windows 10 and the latest
> official release of NVDA.
>
> Is there perhaps a Windows command which helps? Brian Crabtree
>
>
>



Reading boxes in Microsoft Word

Kevin Huber
 

Hi:

I have a Microsoft Word document with graphics contained in it. These
graphics contain text. How can I read the text within these graphics
using NVDA.
Kevin Huber


Re: NVDA AND GOOGLE CLASSROOM

 

Also, as an FYI, virtually all of the various Google sites/web apps can be reached using the general form  {appname}.google.com if you're logged in under the account that has access to that given app.  For example:

mail.google.com

docs.google.com or drive.google.com

calendar.google.com

classroom.google.com  (which I can get to the main window, but no further, because I don't have an account for this service)

I use this technique to bring up these different Google services/apps as frequently, if not more frequently, than ever using the app launch key on any of the Google app screens.

--
Brian

I worry a lot. . . I worry that no matter how cynical you become it's never enough to keep up.

         ~ Trudy, in Jane Wagner's "Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe"