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Re: NVDA focus and Edge question

Gene
 

I don't use Edge and I don't know why you have the other problem. But try f6 when you have a problem in WE. Try f6 more than once if necessary. It sounds to me as though you are somehow moving to a tool bar and f6 will move you to different structures in the window, including the document part of the window, where you want to be.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Janet Brandly
Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2020 2:46 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA focus and Edge question



Hello all,



I just wanted to let you know that, since upgrading to the latest version of NVDA, my focus problems have significantly improved. However, I’m still experiencing some problems in WE .. it sometimes won’t read list items unless I alt-tab and come back to it.



I have been using Edge as my main browser for a while now. It works pretty well over-all, but I’m having a problem where I sometimes get stuck in the window/pane with options for closing Edge, opening a new tab, opening a new window, etc. I know this is very elementary for most of you, but if someone Would be so kind as to let me know what I’m doing wrong and how to fix it, I would be grateful.



Thanks,



Janet


NVDA focus and Edge question

Janet Brandly
 

Hello all,

 

I just wanted to let you know that, since upgrading to the latest version of NVDA, my focus problems have significantly improved. However, I’m still experiencing some problems in WE .. it sometimes won’t read list items unless I alt-tab and come back to it.

 

I have been using Edge as my main browser for a while now. It works pretty well over-all, but I’m having a problem where I sometimes get stuck in the window/pane with options for closing Edge, opening a new tab, opening a new window, etc. I know this is very elementary for most of you, but if someone Would be so kind as to let me know what I’m doing wrong and how to fix it, I would be grateful.

 

Thanks,

 

Janet


Re: Unable to share links on FB

Sascha Cowley
 

To write a post:
On desktop (facebook.com), there is a heading 3 "Create a post", and below that are buttons to create posts, add activities etc. On mobile (m.facebook.com) (at least the JavaScript version I now get with Firefox), the button to create a post is above the "Stories" level 2 heading.

I can't work out how to share posts, either. 😕

I am able to access the alternative reactions on facebook.com and m.facebook.com just fine. I am not sure if you are talking about something else, though.


Re: Unable to press the continue button when trying to join the medium partner program

Sascha Cowley
 

I was able to tick the box by entering focus mode ([NVDA] + [SPACE]) and tabbing to the checkbox (it comes before the link in the tab order) and pressing [SPACE]. The button was then enabled and I could proceed.


Re: Making NVDA profiles in diffrent languages

Sascha Cowley
 

Given changing the NVDA language (not just speech or Braille language) requires restarting NVDA, the only way I can think of doing this is to create completely new configuration folders (not just profiles) for each NVDA language you wanted, and creating shortcuts to them using the `-c` flag to specify the configuration folder. You should then be able to alter all settings of these differently configured shortcuts as desired. You would, of course, have to quit NVDA and re-launch the differently configured version each time you wanted to change NVDA language.


Re: Making NVDA profiles in diffrent languages

Rui Fontes
 

I don't believe that is possible...


Rui Fontes



Às 18:57 de 24/10/2020, Cristina Ebetiuc escreveu:

Hi

How can I set the NVDA profiles to be in English, German, etc. I mean not only the voice but also the app NVDA itsself.

Greetings and a nice ivening

 

Gesendet von Mail für Windows 10

 


Making NVDA profiles in diffrent languages

Cristina Ebetiuc
 

Hi

How can I set the NVDA profiles to be in English, German, etc. I mean not only the voice but also the app NVDA itsself.

Greetings and a nice ivening

 

Gesendet von Mail für Windows 10

 


Re: Unable to share links on FB

Giles Turnbull
 

I am struggling with several things on the new Facebook design, including discovering this morning when I tried to share a post that there doesn't seem to be any way to do that using NVDA!

Something else I tried to do today when I realised I couldn't share the post was to copy and paste the text I wanted to share into a message to two of my friends. I started a new group message to the two people and then pasted the text into the message. I activated the Send button and got the error that I needed to address the message to somebody! Even though the two people's names were still listed as being recipients!

In the old layout (and I'm using the mobile version of FB on my laptop and Firefox browser) I often used to use a custom feeling. I used to type in the feeling search field and activate the Search button, and the result would come up as a link I could use to add it to my post. There is still a search field but no search button ... so I assumed I'd type my feeling in the text field and the result would appear in some sort of list ... but it doesn't! There are buttons for Clear and Cancel but that's it. I've looked through the list of NVDA+F7 elements to see if there's anything disguised as a link, a form field or heading etc, but there's nothing. In fact all of the 120-or-so "standard" feelings like happy, confused, goofy, angry don't show up in any of the NVDA+F7 elements ... in the page itself they are not reported as clicable elements, even though they function that way.

In the old layout I could choose from I think it was 6 reactions to comments on my posts ... I could react with like, love, care, haha, sad and angry. Now it seems that Like is the only reaction available.

If any NVDAers have figured out ways to do these things I'd be hugely grateful for guidance ... I'd post on FB about it with the feeling: overjoyed! :)

Giles


Re: Copy Spoken Text

E.T.
 

Thanks guys, its appreciated.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
Email Address: Ancient.Aliens@icloud.com
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
will make violent revolution inevitable."
--John F. Kennedy

On 10/23/2020 6:42 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
Right on the page that Mr. Taylor originally gave is this:  The add-on allows you to review the most recent 100 items spoken by NVDA, as well as copy the selected item to the clipboard.  By default, use Shift+F11 to move back through the history, Shift+F12 to move forwards and F12 on its own to copy the selected item.  These hotkeys can be updated from within the Speech category of NVDA's Input gestures dialog.
Anything on the clipboard is pasted via the standard Windows paste command:  CTRL+V  (presuming you're not using the new multi-item clipboard).
--
Brian -Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041
/It’s hard waking up and realizing it’s not always black and white./
~ Kelley Boorn


Unable to press the continue button when trying to join the medium partner program

Pranav Lal
 

Hi all,

I am trying to join the medium partner program. Try the following link.
https://medium.com/me/partner/enroll/terms

Note:
I suspect you will need a medium account to test the above.

There is a checkbox that says something like "I accept the terms of
service."
If I activate that checkbox using object navigation or the enter key, I am
taken to the policies. I have scrolled through them manually using the arrow
keys and have also tried using the "say all" functionality to read the
contents of the page. The "continue" button remains disabled because I am
unable to check the box that indicates my acceptance of the terms of
service.

Anyone any ideas?
Pranav


Unable to share links on FB

Bob Jutzi
 

Am I the only one unable to share links or posts on FB?  Nothing results when using either Enter or Spacebar on a Share link.  I experience this whether using Firefox or Chrome based Edge and I am using the latest NVDA alpha.



Re: nvda and ham calls

Sarah k Alawami
 

Well hot dog! So we did get the reading and spelling of calls to wrk, I can't wait to try this on Tuesday. I was practicing a bit today to see if I could keep up, but this should work. Still, an add on would be nice, but for now I can I think work with what i have. We have a blind hams discord, email me off list for more info. For now though I will just keep practicing.

--

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.

Check out my adventures with a shadow machine.

to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on twitch. Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 23 Oct 2020, at 13:39, tim wrote:

Try selecting the column and in formatting pick fit to width.

On 10/23/2020 3:40 PM, Howard Traxler wrote:

Ron, when I did use Excel, as a "net conntrol station", I only used the first four columns:  callsign, name, XYL Name, city; for any more, I didn't figure out how to make the cells wide enough to not truncate.  If I xcould get my Alva display to work again, I'd go back to Excel.  Any suggestions about column width?

Thanks.
Howard other

On 10/23/2020 1:57 PM, Ron Canazzi wrote:

Hi Group,

I did download and install Net Logger. I can confirm the issues that Sara is having. Some people say they are not having the issues.  Is there any kind of set up that will make use with a screen reader work better?

I was able to enter data wit some clumsiness and safe it in stand alone mode.  The file is saved in log format and by default that format opens in Notepad Plus Plus on my system. Interestingly enough, when I viewed it in Notepad Plus Plus, everything showed up as it should -with delimiters using the vertical bar symbol. Using Net Logger itself, I could not get what I wrote to read in any other manner other than using tab and shift tab or after data had been enter I use left/right arrow keys to move from columns that already contained data and the information would read, but there was no way of reading the information--in particular--callsigns alpha-numerically.

Actually, if you use Microsoft Excel and set up a spreadsheet in data format, you get better results. NVDA reads all the columns if column header mode is turned on and you can edit and enter data easily. This takes some ability to design database/spreadsheets, but for a simple thing like a callsign entry system, where formulas are not required nor any fancy accounting knowledge, this isn't really that hard.

On 10/23/2020 1:31 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

Like I said, this program does not have edit fields per-say. Even in notepad I can't read the calls correctly, and remember I'm using 1 hand. I even tried all caps and that idea failed last Tuesday when I was logging for someone. Again, if you want more info go to their website. http://netlogger.org

I can try this Saturday when I practice logging for the Saturday morning digital net, that is, if I'm alert enough to practice. By the way you do have to be a ham to dl the software, so can the hams please help? I really don't want to find another piece of software as let's say my computer reboots, I can have someone take over while I get up and running, so long as they have the pw to log.

Blessings all, I'm off to bed. I have a 3 hour training to do tomorrow.

--

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. http://www.tffppodcast.com

Check out my adventures with a shadow machine. http://tffppodcast.com/shadow

to subscribe to the feed click here http://feeds.feedburner.com/tffp and you can also follow us on twitter http://twitter.com/tffppodcast

Our discord http://discord.tffppodcast.com is where you will know when we go live on twitch. http://twitch.tv/ke7zum Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page http://lbry.tv/@ke7zum and my tffp lbry page http://lbry.tv/@tffp You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here Http://patreon.com/tffppodcast

On 22 Oct 2020, at 21:50, Ron Canazzi wrote:

    Hi Sara,

    Try one more thing and if it doesn't work, then find another
    program. Once in a while, when all else fails, highlight the
    whole edit field and then (laptop equivalent) press the read line
    keystroke twice quickly. With desktop, that is insert + up arrow.

    On 10/22/2020 9:41 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

    It does not. You type in the sign and hit enter. If I need to
    edit a call, good luck, as that part is hard to do so I'd better
    get it right.

    To read the calls, I up and down arrow but I cannot move left
    and right to read the characters and hitting nvda left and right
    yields blank blank blank. In fact object mode yields nothing at
    least in the net logger window.

    --

    Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.
    http://www.tffppodcast.com

    Check out my adventures with a shadow machine.
    http://tffppodcast.com/shadow

    to subscribe to the feed click here
    http://feeds.feedburner.com/tffp and you can also follow us on
    twitter http://twitter.com/tffppodcast

    Our discord http://discord.tffppodcast.com is where you will
    know when we go live on twitch. http://twitch.tv/ke7zum Feel
    free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

    For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main
    lbry page http://lbry.tv/@ke7zum and my tffp lbry page
    http://lbry.tv/@tffp You will also be able to buy some of my
    products and eBooks there.

    Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here
    Http://patreon.com/tffppodcast

    On 22 Oct 2020, at 14:19, Ron Canazzi wrote:

        Hi Sara,

        Does this net logger have an edit field for each item?  If
        so, then either try using screen review or object
        navigation. I used to use an old ham database program years
        ago and using NVDA, if you moved to the edit field and then
        switched to object navigation, highlighted the callsign and
        then used the 5 key you could usually get it to work. If not
        try using screen review--a bit clumsy, but it may also work.

        On 10/22/2020 4:00 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

        I can't do that. I use an app called "netlogger." and using
        what ever that would be in laptop keys yields "blank blank
        blank" even though I typed in the stuff. So that won't
        work. You can find out more about netlogger here.
        http://netlogger.org and it's free so feel free to
        download and see what I mean.

        --

        Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our
        website. http://www.tffppodcast.com

        Check out my adventures with a shadow machine.
        http://tffppodcast.com/shadow

        to subscribe to the feed click here
        http://feeds.feedburner.com/tffp and you can also follow
        us on twitter http://twitter.com/tffppodcast

        Our discord http://discord.tffppodcast.com is where you
        will know when we go live on twitch.
        http://twitch.tv/ke7zum Feel free to give the channel a
        follow and see what is up there.

        For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my
        main lbry page http://lbry.tv/@ke7zum and my tffp lbry
        page http://lbry.tv/@tffp You will also be able to buy
        some of my products and eBooks there.

        Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go
        here Http://patreon.com/tffppodcast

        On 22 Oct 2020, at 11:57, Ron Canazzi wrote:

            Hi Sara,

            Using JAWS, there was a setting to 'spell alpha numeric
            expressions.'  NVDA does not have this option. What I
            do when running nets is to highlight the callsign and
            then use the keypad 5 key to read the callsign and if I
            can't tell what the call is initially, I double punch
            the 5 key to have the expression spelled alpha
            numerically as in alpha alpha 2 victor Mike.

            On 10/22/2020 1:26 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

            Hello to all. For those that don't know, I'm an
            amateur radio operator, and in a week I'm due to run a
            net. Fine, except I struggle with reading ham calls. I
            know on the BNS there was a ham calls option where it
            would read those such as ke7zum. Is there such a thing
            for nvda? Or can an option be thought of, an add on
            that could be turned on and off at will to allow for
            such? I know this won't happen by the 27th when I'm
            due to control, but I'm sure I'm not the only one who
            would like this.

            I'm using the ibm tts voices but espeak and david does
            this as well. I can't code or I would find a way to do
            this myself.

            The thing that makes this harder is not all call signs
            are 2 by 3 like mine. Some are a 1 by 1, or a 1 by 2.
            I've even seen some 2 by 2 calls.

            Thanks all.

            --

            Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to
            our website. http://www.tffppodcast.com

            Check out my adventures with a shadow machine.
            http://tffppodcast.com/shadow

            to subscribe to the feed click here
            http://feeds.feedburner.com/tffp and you can also
            follow us on twitter http://twitter.com/tffppodcast

            Our discord http://discord.tffppodcast.com is where
            you will know when we go live on twitch.
            http://twitch.tv/ke7zum Feel free to give the
            channel a follow and see what is up there.

            For stream archives, products you can buy and more
            visit my main lbry page http://lbry.tv/@ke7zum and
            my tffp lbry page http://lbry.tv/@tffp You will also
            be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.

            Finally, to become a patron and help support the
            podcast go here Http://patreon.com/tffppodcast

            --             They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
            They ask: "How Happy are You?"
            I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"

        --         They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
        They ask: "How Happy are You?"
        I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"

    --     They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
    They ask: "How Happy are You?"
    I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"

--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: Copy Spoken Text

 

Right on the page that Mr. Taylor originally gave is this:   The add-on allows you to review the most recent 100 items spoken by NVDA, as well as copy the selected item to the clipboard.  By default, use Shift+F11 to move back through the history, Shift+F12 to move forwards and F12 on its own to copy the selected item.  These hotkeys can be updated from within the Speech category of NVDA's Input gestures dialog.

Anything on the clipboard is pasted via the standard Windows paste command:  CTRL+V  (presuming you're not using the new multi-item clipboard).

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

It’s hard waking up and realizing it’s not always black and white.

     ~ Kelley Boorn

 


Re: Copy Spoken Text

Sam Taylor
 

You should have a read of how it works, as there is no paste command. The copy command, I believe, is f12, but I have redefined this.


On 24/10/2020 11:20 am, E.T. via groups.io wrote:
   Thanks. What are the hotkeys to copy and paste?

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
Email Address: Ancient.Aliens@...
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
will make violent revolution inevitable."
 --John F. Kennedy

On 10/23/2020 5:53 PM, Sam Taylor via groups.io wrote:
There is not an in-built command. You will need the Speech History add-on:

https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/speech_history.en.html

Cheers

Sam


On 24/10/2020 9:58 am, E.T. via groups.io wrote:
   What is the command to do this in the latest version of NVDA to copy spoken text to the clipboard? Thanks.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
Email Address: Ancient.Aliens@...
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
will make violent revolution inevitable."
 --John F. Kennedy












Re: Copy Spoken Text

E.T.
 

Thanks. What are the hotkeys to copy and paste?

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
Email Address: Ancient.Aliens@icloud.com
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
will make violent revolution inevitable."
--John F. Kennedy

On 10/23/2020 5:53 PM, Sam Taylor via groups.io wrote:
There is not an in-built command. You will need the Speech History add-on:
https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/speech_history.en.html
Cheers
Sam
On 24/10/2020 9:58 am, E.T. via groups.io wrote:
   What is the command to do this in the latest version of NVDA to copy spoken text to the clipboard? Thanks.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
Email Address: Ancient.Aliens@icloud.com
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
will make violent revolution inevitable."
 --John F. Kennedy





Re: NVDA 2020.3: Error working with Table

Bruno Aníbal Prieto González
 

Hello, this is a serious error in my opinion that has not yet been
solved. It happens when the cells are empty. If you go to the advanced
options and disable UIA for Microsoft Word you will get better results
with tables, but you sacrifice performance to a large extent.
This error is already reported, if more people join in the comments
maybe they will prioritize it, here the link:
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/11043

Greetings

2020-10-23 13:45 GMT-03:00, Cuong Dang Manh <dangmanhcuong@gmail.com>:

Hi all

Today, I and my wife worked on a table in Microsoft Office Word 2019 and
NVDA. Sounds like NVDA didn't recognize the table I insert. While caret
in a cell, then I press Ctrl+Alt+arrow, NVDA says something like I'm not
in a table.

I restarted NVDA, restarted Word, and restarted NVDA with all add-on
disabled, and still have this problem on laptops of my wife and mine.

Both are using Windows 10 Home single language 64-bit, version 2004,
NVDA 2020.3.

I don't know the reason. I'm going to create issue for this if no way to
solve. Please help me if you could.

Thanks in advance.

Cuong







Re: Copy Spoken Text

Sam Taylor
 

There is not an in-built command. You will need the Speech History add-on:

https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/speech_history.en.html

Cheers

Sam


On 24/10/2020 9:58 am, E.T. via groups.io wrote:
   What is the command to do this in the latest version of NVDA to copy spoken text to the clipboard? Thanks.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
Email Address: Ancient.Aliens@...
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
will make violent revolution inevitable."
 --John F. Kennedy






Copy Spoken Text

E.T.
 

What is the command to do this in the latest version of NVDA to copy spoken text to the clipboard? Thanks.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
Email Address: Ancient.Aliens@icloud.com
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
will make violent revolution inevitable."
--John F. Kennedy


Re: nvda and ham calls

tim
 

Try selecting the column and in formatting pick fit to width.

On 10/23/2020 3:40 PM, Howard Traxler wrote:
Ron, when I did use Excel, as a "net conntrol station", I only used the first four columns:  callsign, name, XYL Name, city; for any more, I didn't figure out how to make the cells wide enough to not truncate.  If I xcould get my Alva display to work again, I'd go back to Excel.  Any suggestions about column width?
Thanks.
Howard other
On 10/23/2020 1:57 PM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Group,

I did download and install Net Logger. I can confirm the issues that Sara is having. Some people say they are not having the issues.  Is there any kind of set up that will make use with a screen reader work better?

I was able to enter data wit some clumsiness and safe it in stand alone mode.  The file is saved in log format and by default that format opens in Notepad Plus Plus on my system. Interestingly enough, when I viewed it in Notepad Plus Plus, everything showed up as it should -with delimiters using the vertical bar symbol. Using Net Logger itself, I could not get what I wrote to read in any other manner other than using tab and shift tab or after data had been enter I use left/right arrow keys to move from columns that already contained data and the information would read, but there was no way of reading the information--in particular--callsigns alpha-numerically.

Actually, if you use Microsoft Excel and set up a spreadsheet in data format, you get better results. NVDA reads all the columns if column header mode is turned on and you can edit and enter data easily. This takes some ability to design database/spreadsheets, but for a simple thing like a callsign entry system, where formulas are not required nor any fancy accounting knowledge, this isn't really that hard.


On 10/23/2020 1:31 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

Like I said, this program does not have edit fields per-say. Even in notepad I can't read the calls correctly, and remember I'm using 1 hand. I even tried all caps and that idea failed last Tuesday when I was logging for someone. Again, if you want more info go to their website. <http://netlogger.org>

I can try this Saturday when I practice logging for the Saturday morning digital net, that is, if I'm alert enough to practice. By the way you do have to be a ham to dl the software, so can the hams please help? I really don't want to find another piece of software as let's say my computer reboots, I can have someone take over while I get up and running, so long as they have the pw to log.

Blessings all, I'm off to bed. I have a 3 hour training to do tomorrow.

--

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. <http://www.tffppodcast.com>

Check out my adventures with a shadow machine. <http://tffppodcast.com/shadow>

to subscribe to the feed click here <http://feeds.feedburner.com/tffp> and you can also follow us on twitter <http://twitter.com/tffppodcast>

Our discord <http://discord.tffppodcast.com> is where you will know when we go live on twitch. <http://twitch.tv/ke7zum> Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page <http://lbry.tv/@ke7zum> and my tffp lbry page <http://lbry.tv/@tffp> You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here <Http://patreon.com/tffppodcast>

On 22 Oct 2020, at 21:50, Ron Canazzi wrote:

    Hi Sara,

    Try one more thing and if it doesn't work, then find another
    program. Once in a while, when all else fails, highlight the
    whole edit field and then (laptop equivalent) press the read line
    keystroke twice quickly. With desktop, that is insert + up arrow.


    On 10/22/2020 9:41 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

    It does not. You type in the sign and hit enter. If I need to
    edit a call, good luck, as that part is hard to do so I'd better
    get it right.

    To read the calls, I up and down arrow but I cannot move left
    and right to read the characters and hitting nvda left and right
    yields blank blank blank. In fact object mode yields nothing at
    least in the net logger window.

    --

    Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.
    <http://www.tffppodcast.com>

    Check out my adventures with a shadow machine.
    <http://tffppodcast.com/shadow>

    to subscribe to the feed click here
    <http://feeds.feedburner.com/tffp> and you can also follow us on
    twitter <http://twitter.com/tffppodcast>

    Our discord <http://discord.tffppodcast.com> is where you will
    know when we go live on twitch. <http://twitch.tv/ke7zum> Feel
    free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

    For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main
    lbry page <http://lbry.tv/@ke7zum> and my tffp lbry page
    <http://lbry.tv/@tffp> You will also be able to buy some of my
    products and eBooks there.

    Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here
    <Http://patreon.com/tffppodcast>

    On 22 Oct 2020, at 14:19, Ron Canazzi wrote:

        Hi Sara,

        Does this net logger have an edit field for each item?  If
        so, then either try using screen review or object
        navigation. I used to use an old ham database program years
        ago and using NVDA, if you moved to the edit field and then
        switched to object navigation, highlighted the callsign and
        then used the 5 key you could usually get it to work. If not
        try using screen review--a bit clumsy, but it may also work.


        On 10/22/2020 4:00 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

        I can't do that. I use an app called "netlogger." and using
        what ever that would be in laptop keys yields "blank blank
        blank" even though I typed in the stuff. So that won't
        work. You can find out more about netlogger here.
        <http://netlogger.org> and it's free so feel free to
        download and see what I mean.

        --

        Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our
        website. <http://www.tffppodcast.com>

        Check out my adventures with a shadow machine.
        <http://tffppodcast.com/shadow>

        to subscribe to the feed click here
        <http://feeds.feedburner.com/tffp> and you can also follow
        us on twitter <http://twitter.com/tffppodcast>

        Our discord <http://discord.tffppodcast.com> is where you
        will know when we go live on twitch.
        <http://twitch.tv/ke7zum> Feel free to give the channel a
        follow and see what is up there.

        For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my
        main lbry page <http://lbry.tv/@ke7zum> and my tffp lbry
        page <http://lbry.tv/@tffp> You will also be able to buy
        some of my products and eBooks there.

        Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go
        here <Http://patreon.com/tffppodcast>

        On 22 Oct 2020, at 11:57, Ron Canazzi wrote:

            Hi Sara,

            Using JAWS, there was a setting to 'spell alpha numeric
            expressions.'  NVDA does not have this option. What I
            do when running nets is to highlight the callsign and
            then use the keypad 5 key to read the callsign and if I
            can't tell what the call is initially, I double punch
            the 5 key to have the expression spelled alpha
            numerically as in alpha alpha 2 victor Mike.


            On 10/22/2020 1:26 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

            Hello to all. For those that don't know, I'm an
            amateur radio operator, and in a week I'm due to run a
            net. Fine, except I struggle with reading ham calls. I
            know on the BNS there was a ham calls option where it
            would read those such as ke7zum. Is there such a thing
            for nvda? Or can an option be thought of, an add on
            that could be turned on and off at will to allow for
            such? I know this won't happen by the 27th when I'm
            due to control, but I'm sure I'm not the only one who
            would like this.

            I'm using the ibm tts voices but espeak and david does
            this as well. I can't code or I would find a way to do
            this myself.

            The thing that makes this harder is not all call signs
            are 2 by 3 like mine. Some are a 1 by 1, or a 1 by 2.
            I've even seen some 2 by 2 calls.

            Thanks all.

            --

            Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to
            our website. <http://www.tffppodcast.com>

            Check out my adventures with a shadow machine.
            <http://tffppodcast.com/shadow>

            to subscribe to the feed click here
            <http://feeds.feedburner.com/tffp> and you can also
            follow us on twitter <http://twitter.com/tffppodcast>

            Our discord <http://discord.tffppodcast.com> is where
            you will know when we go live on twitch.
            <http://twitch.tv/ke7zum> Feel free to give the
            channel a follow and see what is up there.

            For stream archives, products you can buy and more
            visit my main lbry page <http://lbry.tv/@ke7zum> and
            my tffp lbry page <http://lbry.tv/@tffp> You will also
            be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.

            Finally, to become a patron and help support the
            podcast go here <Http://patreon.com/tffppodcast>
            --             They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
            They ask: "How Happy are You?"
            I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
        --         They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
        They ask: "How Happy are You?"
        I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
    --     They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
    They ask: "How Happy are You?"
    I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: nvda and ham calls

tim
 

Just a shot in the dark here.
Try changing the screen resolution and see if more show.
It got the settings to show back in edge, so might work.

On 10/23/2020 3:09 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
Right. I need that info looked up so (I can look up names hence why I'm using netlogger. Excel (I don't have office anyway) will not interface with qrz or eqsl.
So you did confirm nvda tab will not work like I did eh? Ok, though I was going crazy.
Take care
--
Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our [website.](http://www.tffppodcast.com)
Check out my [adventures with a shadow machine.](http://tffppodcast.com/shadow)
to subscribe to the feed click [here](http://feeds.feedburner.com/tffp) and you can also [follow us on twitter](http://twitter.com/tffppodcast)
Our [discord](http://discord.tffppodcast.com)  is where you will know when we go live on [twitch.](http://twitch.tv/ke7zum) Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.
For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit [my main lbry page](http://lbry.tv/@ke7zum) and my [tffp lbry page](http://lbry.tv/@tffp) You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.
Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go [here](Http://patreon.com/tffppodcast)
On 23 Oct 2020, at 11:57, Ron Canazzi wrote:

Hi Group,

I did download and install Net Logger. I can confirm the issues that Sara is having. Some people say they are not having the issues.  Is there any kind of set up that will make use with a screen reader work better?

I was able to enter data wit some clumsiness and safe it in stand alone mode.  The file is saved in log format and by default that format opens in Notepad Plus Plus on my system. Interestingly enough, when I viewed it in Notepad Plus Plus, everything showed up as it should -with delimiters using the vertical bar symbol. Using Net Logger itself, I could not get what I wrote to read in any other manner other than using tab and shift tab or after data had been enter I use left/right arrow keys to move from columns that already contained data and the information would read, but there was no way of reading the information--in particular--callsigns alpha-numerically.

Actually, if you use Microsoft Excel and set up a spreadsheet in data format, you get better results. NVDA reads all the columns if column header mode is turned on and you can edit and enter data easily. This takes some ability to design database/spreadsheets, but for a simple thing like a callsign entry system, where formulas are not required nor any fancy accounting knowledge, this isn't really that hard.


On 10/23/2020 1:31 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

Like I said, this program does not have edit fields per-say. Even in notepad I can't read the calls correctly, and remember I'm using 1 hand. I even tried all caps and that idea failed last Tuesday when I was logging for someone. Again, if you want more info go to their website. <http://netlogger.org>

I can try this Saturday when I practice logging for the Saturday morning digital net, that is, if I'm alert enough to practice. By the way you do have to be a ham to dl the software, so can the hams please help? I really don't want to find another piece of software as let's say my computer reboots, I can have someone take over while I get up and running, so long as they have the pw to log.

Blessings all, I'm off to bed. I have a 3 hour training to do tomorrow.

--

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. <http://www.tffppodcast.com>

Check out my adventures with a shadow machine. <http://tffppodcast.com/shadow>

to subscribe to the feed click here <http://feeds.feedburner.com/tffp> and you can also follow us on twitter <http://twitter.com/tffppodcast>

Our discord <http://discord.tffppodcast.com> is where you will know when we go live on twitch. <http://twitch.tv/ke7zum> Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page <http://lbry.tv/@ke7zum> and my tffp lbry page <http://lbry.tv/@tffp> You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here <Http://patreon.com/tffppodcast>

On 22 Oct 2020, at 21:50, Ron Canazzi wrote:

    Hi Sara,

    Try one more thing and if it doesn't work, then find another
    program. Once in a while, when all else fails, highlight the whole
    edit field and then (laptop equivalent) press the read line
    keystroke twice quickly. With desktop, that is insert + up arrow.


    On 10/22/2020 9:41 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

    It does not. You type in the sign and hit enter. If I need to
    edit a call, good luck, as that part is hard to do so I'd better
    get it right.

    To read the calls, I up and down arrow but I cannot move left and
    right to read the characters and hitting nvda left and right
    yields blank blank blank. In fact object mode yields nothing at
    least in the net logger window.

    --

    Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.
    <http://www.tffppodcast.com>

    Check out my adventures with a shadow machine.
    <http://tffppodcast.com/shadow>

    to subscribe to the feed click here
    <http://feeds.feedburner.com/tffp> and you can also follow us on
    twitter <http://twitter.com/tffppodcast>

    Our discord <http://discord.tffppodcast.com> is where you will
    know when we go live on twitch. <http://twitch.tv/ke7zum> Feel
    free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

    For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main
    lbry page <http://lbry.tv/@ke7zum> and my tffp lbry page
    <http://lbry.tv/@tffp> You will also be able to buy some of my
    products and eBooks there.

    Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here
    <Http://patreon.com/tffppodcast>

    On 22 Oct 2020, at 14:19, Ron Canazzi wrote:

        Hi Sara,

        Does this net logger have an edit field for each item?  If
        so, then either try using screen review or object navigation.
        I used to use an old ham database program years ago and using
        NVDA, if you moved to the edit field and then switched to
        object navigation, highlighted the callsign and then used the
        5 key you could usually get it to work. If not try using
        screen review--a bit clumsy, but it may also work.


        On 10/22/2020 4:00 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

        I can't do that. I use an app called "netlogger." and using
        what ever that would be in laptop keys yields "blank blank
        blank" even though I typed in the stuff. So that won't work.
        You can find out more about netlogger here.
        <http://netlogger.org> and it's free so feel free to
        download and see what I mean.

        --

        Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our
        website. <http://www.tffppodcast.com>

        Check out my adventures with a shadow machine.
        <http://tffppodcast.com/shadow>

        to subscribe to the feed click here
        <http://feeds.feedburner.com/tffp> and you can also follow
        us on twitter <http://twitter.com/tffppodcast>

        Our discord <http://discord.tffppodcast.com> is where you
        will know when we go live on twitch.
        <http://twitch.tv/ke7zum> Feel free to give the channel a
        follow and see what is up there.

        For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my
        main lbry page <http://lbry.tv/@ke7zum> and my tffp lbry
        page <http://lbry.tv/@tffp> You will also be able to buy
        some of my products and eBooks there.

        Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go
        here <Http://patreon.com/tffppodcast>

        On 22 Oct 2020, at 11:57, Ron Canazzi wrote:

            Hi Sara,

            Using JAWS, there was a setting to 'spell alpha numeric
            expressions.'  NVDA does  not have this option. What I
            do when running nets is to highlight the callsign and
            then use the keypad 5 key to read the callsign and if I
            can't tell what the call is initially, I double punch
            the 5 key to have the expression spelled alpha
            numerically as in alpha alpha 2 victor Mike.


            On 10/22/2020 1:26 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

            Hello to all. For those that don't know, I'm an amateur
            radio operator, and in a week I'm due to run a net.
            Fine, except I struggle with reading ham calls. I know
            on the BNS there was a ham calls option where it would
            read those such as ke7zum. Is there such a thing for
            nvda? Or can an option be thought of, an add on that
            could be turned on and off at will to allow for such? I
            know this won't happen by the 27th when I'm due to
            control, but I'm sure I'm not the only one who would
            like this.

            I'm using the ibm tts voices but espeak and david does
            this as well. I can't code or I would find a way to do
            this myself.

            The thing that makes this harder is not all call signs
            are 2 by 3 like mine. Some are a 1 by 1, or a 1 by 2.
            I've even seen some 2 by 2 calls.

            Thanks all.

            --

            Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our
            website. <http://www.tffppodcast.com>

            Check out my adventures with a shadow machine.
            <http://tffppodcast.com/shadow>

            to subscribe to the feed click here
            <http://feeds.feedburner.com/tffp> and you can also
            follow us on twitter <http://twitter.com/tffppodcast>

            Our discord <http://discord.tffppodcast.com> is where
            you will know when we go live on twitch.
            <http://twitch.tv/ke7zum> Feel free to give the channel
            a follow and see what is up there.

            For stream archives, products you can buy and more
            visit my main lbry page <http://lbry.tv/@ke7zum> and my
            tffp lbry page <http://lbry.tv/@tffp> You will also be
            able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.

            Finally, to become a patron and help support the
            podcast go here <Http://patreon.com/tffppodcast>
            --             They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
            They ask: "How Happy are You?"
            I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
        --         They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
        They ask: "How Happy are You?"
        I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
    --     They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
    They ask: "How Happy are You?"
    I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"

--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"



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