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locked Add-on Updater 20.03 #addonrelease

 

Hello all,

 

First, as Coronavirus is gripping the world, please wash your hands, heed travel advisories, and check and double-check information floating around the internet.

 

Add-on Updater 20.03 is on its way – this important (and mandatory) add-on release will show up for all NVDA users within the next 24 hours. Changes include:

 

  • NVDA 2019.3 or later is required.
  • NVDA itself will check compatibility range, not the add-on.

 

As I announced a few weeks ago, with Add-on Updater 20.03, all my add-ons I’m currently maintaining have graduated to Python 3 – all my add-ons will now require NVDA 2019.3 or later. As such, once Add-on Updater 20.03 shows up, old Python 2 versions of my add-ons will be removed from community add-ons website.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: New Computer- problems with NVDA response

 

Mcafee and norton can be good products at least they are supposed to.

But like avast it comes with everything.

Usually when I get a system to service, if its slow and I find mcafee the first thing I do is reformat and reinstall fresh, its the only way to get rid of it completely.

I havn't had a good luck with things like this.

With all the false alarms about, sadly the features the blind need are.

1.  its accessible and 2.  its easy to exclude things.

If it by chance is good at scanning and removing threats its a bonus, however I have a hard job making these programs leave me alone.

On 10/03/2020 10:38 am, Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi,   I use to go out to fix computers for RNIB,   my heart sinks when I hear about this Av Product.   if You can get a a refund and get rid it used to be hard to remove as well. good luck.

On 08/03/2020 23:48, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Sun, Mar 8, 2020 at 05:36 PM, Anna Givens wrote:

    I just bought the subscription for McAfee, so not wanting to take it
    off. Why would I need to?

And if they give you 30 days to turn it back in, my recommendation is that you do.  Over the last several years there have been multiple, and sometimes repeated for a given brand, issues with 3rd party security suites and Windows 10. Windows Defender, as implemented under Windows 8 and 10, lands in the top tier of security suites consistently, and is more than just adequate protection.

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Re: New Computer- problems with NVDA response

Kevin Cussick
 

Hi, I use to go out to fix computers for RNIB, my heart sinks when I hear about this Av Product. if You can get a a refund and get rid it used to be hard to remove as well. good luck.

On 08/03/2020 23:48, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Sun, Mar 8, 2020 at 05:36 PM, Anna Givens wrote:
I just bought the subscription for McAfee, so not wanting to take it
off. Why would I need to?
And if they give you 30 days to turn it back in, my recommendation is that you do.  Over the last several years there have been multiple, and sometimes repeated for a given brand, issues with 3rd party security suites and Windows 10.  Windows Defender, as implemented under Windows 8 and 10, lands in the top tier of security suites consistently, and is more than just adequate protection.
--
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*Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.*
       ~ Madonna


Re: NVDA saying unknown in treeview inn thunder bird

Kara Goldfinch
 

Try running the COM Registration Fixing tool.


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On 8 Mar 2020, at 16:14, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

Hi guys

has any one else noticed after you open thunder bird  then tab a couple of times until you hear nvda say treeview you hear the word unknown?

If I do not have audio themes turned on  it acts as normal and reads out tree view.

It does not seem to happen  unless I turn on a add on called audio themes.

If audio themes is enabled at times I will hear nvda say unknown when I get to tree view When it says unknown it will not let you do really any ting unless you tab or shift/tab back.

Some times a restart of nvda will put it back to normal or even turning it off then back on then it might start again.

But if disabled then nvda turned off then on again it does not seem to happen.

At present it is disabled and does not seem to happen.

Can any others who use that add on confirm when enabled it happens? I have not set up any type of profile for it either just installed it this is with nvda 2019.3 and windows 10 version 1909

Gene nz

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Re: New Computer- problems with NVDA response

 

On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 12:07 PM, Tony Ballou wrote:
So my guess would probably be that it's something crazy in the operating system that's making things nuts.
If this were the case then the issue would be virtually universal, but it's not, and it's not even close.  There definitely appears to be something afoot with NVDA and a small subset of machines running Windows 10, but it's not even clear whether it's for the same Version and Build of Windows 10.

Until and unless the problem were to become far more widespread, and were to be on a single Version of Windows 10, the probability of it being a global issue with the operating system is very, very small.

But I come back to the fact that no new machine should be exhibiting sluggishness and peculiar behaviors with an array of programs, and from what's been offered so far that seems to be the case.  In those circumstances, if you're within your window allowing returns of the hardware, that's the wisest course of action.  There are lemons in the computer world just like in the automotive world and if you have the opportunity to get rid of one it's far preferable to trying to "make lemonade."
 
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       ~ Madonna

 

 


Re: New Computer- problems with NVDA response

Tony Ballou
 

Hi Anna,


Welcome aboard! Unfortunately I do not have a solution for your problem.   But I can tell you that this may be due to a bug of some sort.  it has yet to be pinpointed because as everybody knows, in releases windows 10 updates seem to throw either systems out of wack or NVDA for a loop.  So my guess would probably be that it's something crazy in the operating system that's making things nuts.  I've seen a couple of random  reports come through sighting sluggishness with the latest version of NVDA which is 2019 3.1 on some systems, so you're not alone. I had a similar problem with my desktop, which after recently having some work done on it, the sluggish behavior seems to have been resolved for now. 


Trust me, if the bug is in NVDA it's being worked on, if it's in windows 10 unless there's a national outcry from the digital gods and goddesses, it's not. 

 

Tony



On 3/8/2020 3:51 PM, Anna Givens wrote:
I posted this in the NVDA chat list, and was advised to post it here in the main list:

I just got a new computer. Ando had issues with the initial setup, like when the computer first turned on the very first time and it was asking me to get things set up, and it had voice already- I guess it was narrator, it would stop responding and had to keep restarting multiple times. And then when setup process was finished I have had the following issue. Not sure if I should contact someone, and if so who. Or is there something that is just related to NVDA or what. 
Help and ideas are greatly appreciated. I got this computer through Walmart, by the way. 

I am pasting the info of the computer I got. And hoping someone could help me figure out what to do. NVDA is installed and I have had problems. A lot of the time NVDA just doesn’t talk or it responds very very slowly, for example I press tab or down arrow on a website, or on desktop or wherever and after 7-8seconds it speaks next line or item... 
also, when this happens I have only one application running, or it’s on desktop and have nothing open.
Ideas??

Here’s the computer-

Lenovo Ideapad 330s 15.6" Laptop, Windows 10, AMD Ryzen 5 2500U Quad-Core Processor, 8GB Memory, 256GB Storage, Platinum Grey - 81FB00HKUS

Meet the Lenovo IdeaPad 330S. Thinner and lighter with narrow bezels for broader viewing, it boasts state-of-the-art processing and accelerated graphics performance. Featuring an AMD Ryzen 5 2500U Quad-Core processor, Integrated Radeon Vega 8 graphics, 8GB DDR4 2400 MHz RAM (4GB OnBoard + 4GB DIMM) memory, and 256GB PCIe SSD internal storage, this powerful laptop has all the essentials you need to tackle your day. Its 15.6-inch HD IPS LED backlit anti-glare display and Dolby Audio Premium speakers ensure gorgeously sharp images and crystal-clear sound whether you're out at the office or relaxing at home. Plus, with a battery life of up to seven hours, you can take on a whole to-do list before you even need to think about finding the nearest outlet to plug into. Power through any task with ease on the Lenovo IdeaPad 330S.


Lenovo Ideapad 330s 15.6" Laptop, Windows 10, AMD Ryzen 5 2500U Quad-Core Processor, 8GB Memory, 256GB Storage, Platinum Grey - 81FB00HKUS:

  • Operating system: Windows 10
  • Processor: AMD Ryzen 5 2500U Quad-Core Processor
  • Display: 15.6" HD IPS LED Backlit Anti-Glare Display
  • Memory: 8GB DDR4 2400 MHz RAM (4GB OnBoard + 4GB DIMM)
  • Internal storage: 256GB PCIe SSD Storage
  • Graphics: Integrated Radeon Vega 8 Graphics
  • Optical Drive: None
  • Battery Life: Up to 7 Hours
  • Audio: 2 x 2W Speakers with Dolby Audio Premium
  • Wireless: 802.11AC Wi-Fi and Bluetooth 4.1 Combo
  • Webcam: Front-Facing HD Webcam with integrated dual array microphone
  • Product weight: 3.96 lbs
  • Color: Platinum Grey
Warnings
Arrow
Specifications
Arrow
Processor Type
AMD Ryzen 5

Hard Drive Capacity
256 GB

Condition
New

Processor Speed
2 GHz

manufacturer_part_number
81fb00hkus

Wireless Technology
802.11AC Wi-Fi and Bluetooth 4.1 Combo

RAM Memory
8 GB

Maximum RAM Supported
8 GB

Operating System
Windows 10

Battery Life
7 h

Model
81FB00HKUS

Screen Size
15.6"

Brand
Lenovo


Thank you all so much.

Anna

On Mar 8, 2020, at 2:57 PM, Anna Givens <annajee82@...> wrote:

Thanka so much everybody!

I am pasting the info of the computer I got. And hoping someone could help me figure out what to do. NVDA is installed and I have had problems. A lot of the time NVDA just doesn’t talk or it responds very very slowly, for example I press tab or down arrow on a website, or on desktop or wherever and after 7-8 seconds it speaks next line or item...
Ideas??

Thank you all so much.

Anna


Re: I think NVDA has a memory leak or something

Ian Blackburn
 

I also  get NVDA stopping speaking at random times.

can be when I run MS word 2010 or firefox or just in explorer


latest NVDA  with the following adons:

sis tray list
    golden cursor  v4.0
easy table navigator  v2.0
VLC v 2.10


thanks

Ian


Re: I think NVDA has a memory leak or something

 

On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 09:53 AM, Giles Turnbull wrote:
Windows 10 Version 1903 (OS Build 18362.657)
I presume you mean 1909 if the build number you give is correct.
 
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       ~ Madonna

 

 


Re: I think NVDA has a memory leak or something

Giles Turnbull
 

I do not know if what I experience is related but, since upgrading to 2019.3, I frequenly need to restart NVDA with the CTRL+ALT+n keystroke because speech from NVDA almost grinds to a hault.

This usually happens when I'm using Firefox but what I don't know, because I'm totally blind and don't often have sighted help, is wheter Windows has ground to a halt, Firefox has or NVDA has! I do know that I didn't get this happening anywhere near as frequently before the upgrade to NVDA 2019.3.

I'm using Firefox 73.0.1 (64-bit) and Windows 10 Version 1903 (OS Build 18362.657)

Giles

 


Re: How to read column headers in excel

 

Take a look at the Commands Quick Reference (NVDA+H,Q) in the section entitled Microsoft Excel and/or my prior post in this very group regarding how to set row and column title ranges in an Excel worksheet itself, which will make any screen reader recognize them: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/message/66291 
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       ~ Madonna

 

 


Re: Problem with 2019.3 in explorer and chrome

molly the blind tech lover
 

Hi.

The thing where pages don’t load in chrome is a known issue with Chrome. It has been fixed in the beta. There should be a Chrome update on March 17.

 

Kind regards

 

Molly

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mahmood HoZhabri
Sent: Monday, March 9, 2020 8:52 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Problem with 2019.3 in explorer and chrome

 

Hi
After install 2019.3 nvda don't read well in windows explorer
For example dont read drives i must close and open nvda sumtime for fix.
And in browser for example config modem page, when i enter a link must press insert + f5 for load new page for nvda and dont load automatically
Like I'm not a robot captcha.
Please fix. Thanks.


Problem with 2019.3 in explorer and chrome

Mahmood HoZhabri <mahmood.hojabri@...>
 

Hi
After install 2019.3 nvda don't read well in windows explorer
For example dont read drives i must close and open nvda sumtime for fix.
And in browser for example config modem page, when i enter a link must press insert + f5 for load new page for nvda and dont load automatically
Like I'm not a robot captcha.
Please fix. Thanks.


Re: I think NVDA has a memory leak or something

Dan Beaver
 

No, I am running 2019.3.  This is later/newer than 2018.


Dan Beaver

On 3/9/2020 4:45 AM, zahra wrote:
i thought this problem is fixed in nvda 2018.1 by fixing
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/7818
did you test with for example 2017 versions of nvda?

On 3/9/20, Dan Beaver <dbeaver888@...> wrote:
I am running 2019.3 on a windows 10 laptop.


I was jumping around in some Firefox pages and had been doing so for about
30 minutes or so.  I went through a lot of pages.


After a while my system suddenly became very sluggish and then almost locked
up.  It also started blowing more hot air than usual and I had to power down
and reboot to get it to straighten up.  It is running cool again and no
sluggishness.


Any thoughts?



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Re: I think NVDA has a memory leak or something

 

i thought this problem is fixed in nvda 2018.1 by fixing
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/7818
did you test with for example 2017 versions of nvda?

On 3/9/20, Dan Beaver <dbeaver888@...> wrote:
I am running 2019.3 on a windows 10 laptop.


I was jumping around in some Firefox pages and had been doing so for about
30 minutes or so.  I went through a lot of pages.


After a while my system suddenly became very sluggish and then almost locked
up.  It also started blowing more hot air than usual and I had to power down
and reboot to get it to straighten up.  It is running cool again and no
sluggishness.


Any thoughts?



--
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were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


How to read column headers in excel

Ramesh Patil
 

How to read column headers in excel while navingating below cells.


Re: Windows 10 App Essentials 20.03.1 emergency hotfix #addonrelease

 

Hi all,

As a follow-up: you’ll still hear “copy” and other editing functions. A general fix will be sent to NV Access for review in the next 24 hours or so (recovering from two days of speech tournaments).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, March 8, 2020 10:28 PM
To: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials 20.03.1 emergency hotfix #AddonRelease

 

Hi all,

 

Windows 10 App Essentials 20.03.1 is now available. This quick fix release resolves a reported issue where NVDA will say “delete back word” when you press Control+Backspace when using recent Word 365 releases.

Cheers,

Joseph


Windows 10 App Essentials 20.03.1 emergency hotfix #addonrelease

 

Hi all,

 

Windows 10 App Essentials 20.03.1 is now available. This quick fix release resolves a reported issue where NVDA will say “delete back word” when you press Control+Backspace when using recent Word 365 releases.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: NVDA saying unknown in treeview inn thunder bird

Sarah k Alawami
 

I can confirm this, a restart o TBird does the trick, then it never happens again. I dunno where I got that advice but it is good advice.

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to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter

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On 8 Mar 2020, at 16:14, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

Hi guys

has any one else noticed after you open thunder bird  then tab a couple of times until you hear nvda say treeview you hear the word unknown?

If I do not have audio themes turned on  it acts as normal and reads out tree view.

It does not seem to happen  unless I turn on a add on called audio themes.

If audio themes is enabled at times I will hear nvda say unknown when I get to tree view When it says unknown it will not let you do really any ting unless you tab or shift/tab back.

Some times a restart of nvda will put it back to normal or even turning it off then back on then it might start again.

But if disabled then nvda turned off then on again it does not seem to happen.

At present it is disabled and does not seem to happen.

Can any others who use that add on confirm when enabled it happens? I have not set up any type of profile for it either just installed it this is with nvda 2019.3 and windows 10 version 1909

Gene nz


Re: New Computer- problems with NVDA response

 

On Sun, Mar 8, 2020 at 08:54 PM, Anna Givens wrote:
and I got it from Walmart.
Then I would return it, promptly, as they have one of the best "no questions asked" return policies on computers.  Get another if this is a model that appeals to you.  No new machine should be giving you this kind of problem.

Also, there is no easy fix, period, for this sort of thing and trying to find one would require a lot of effort on your part as well as that of potential assistants.

You should not have a brand new machine behaving in this way, period.
 
--

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Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.

       ~ Madonna

 

 


Re: New Computer- problems with NVDA response

Anna Givens
 

I appreciate all the suggestions. But I don’t want to do all these things. I bought a new computer and there’s nothing I have done or anything that’a on here that would warrant this extreme sluggishness. I have had multiple computers before and used them in the same way and used them just fine. I simply need it to work, not to reformat things and change things. Can someone suggest who to call or where to take it? It’s Lenovo, it uses Windows, and I got it from Walmart. So I don’t know who to talk to. 
I don’t know if it only has problems when running NVDA, I can’t tell, and nobody around to help me figure that out. It did have issues when running narrator when I first got it though. I know that. Although I don’t know if it was because of narrator or had anything to do with it at all.

Anna

On Mar 8, 2020, at 8:14 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

On Sun, Mar 8, 2020 at 08:01 PM, Gene wrote:
But in this case, would that violate the warranty in case there is something wrong with the machine?
I can't speak to that.  Some it would, some it wouldn't.

In any case, for about the first 30 days (give or take) I rely upon the retailer taking a return for a defective machine.

When I originally suggested this be taken here to the NVDA main forum, the information available made it sound like the crankiness was limited to NVDA.  If it's broader than just NVDA, that's really pointing to something else entirely.
 
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Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.

       ~ Madonna