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Re: Unable to share links on FB

Sarah k Alawami
 

It's actually always been like that. And I don't actually find my friends, I don't need to. I really love the changes they have done, navigation of the site is much easier, especially with the aria tags they put on there. You just need to get used to change and that's what I did per the mobile site.

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On 26 Oct 2020, at 5:57, mattias wrote:

e.g the chat link are gone. a nightmear to find the number of frends now. before all changes you only need to click on profile,frends, and see the amount

Den 26 oktober 2020 06:02:32 skrev "Sarah k Alawami" <marrie12@...>:

I actually do not find this to be the case. I'm on m.facebook.com every day and can use all of the site with confidence, and ease of use. It works well with nvda, and is actually at times faster than the iOs app.

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Check out my adventures with a shadow machine.

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Our discord is where you will know when we go live on twitch. Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

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On 25 Oct 2020, at 14:53, mattias wrote:

the new m.facebook.com are crap

Den 24 oktober 2020 16:40:24 skrev "Giles Turnbull" <giles.turnbull@...>:

I am struggling with several things on the new Facebook design, including discovering this morning when I tried to share a post that there doesn't seem to be any way to do that using NVDA!

Something else I tried to do today when I realised I couldn't share the post was to copy and paste the text I wanted to share into a message to two of my friends. I started a new group message to the two people and then pasted the text into the message. I activated the Send button and got the error that I needed to address the message to somebody! Even though the two people's names were still listed as being recipients!

In the old layout (and I'm using the mobile version of FB on my laptop and Firefox browser) I often used to use a custom feeling. I used to type in the feeling search field and activate the Search button, and the result would come up as a link I could use to add it to my post. There is still a search field but no search button ... so I assumed I'd type my feeling in the text field and the result would appear in some sort of list ... but it doesn't! There are buttons for Clear and Cancel but that's it. I've looked through the list of NVDA+F7 elements to see if there's anything disguised as a link, a form field or heading etc, but there's nothing. In fact all of the 120-or-so "standard" feelings like happy, confused, goofy, angry don't show up in any of the NVDA+F7 elements ... in the page itself they are not reported as clicable elements, even though they function that way.

In the old layout I could choose from I think it was 6 reactions to comments on my posts ... I could react with like, love, care, haha, sad and angry. Now it seems that Like is the only reaction available.

If any NVDAers have figured out ways to do these things I'd be hugely grateful for guidance ... I'd post on FB about it with the feeling: overjoyed! :)

Giles


Re: Unable to share links on FB

Bob Jutzi
 

I just found the Share feature is still accessible with NVDA after all
when using FB Mobile.  When clicking the Share link, the Share options
are now at the bottom of the screen so you can use CTRL-End to get
there.  I'm using the newest Edge but assuming this works on other browsers.

On 10/26/2020 9:40 AM, Giles Turnbull wrote:
Hi Sarah,

I use only Facebook mobile.

Giles





Re: NVDA Addon PDF2Text and python 3

 

What did this add-on do that NVDA OCR cannot do, or a third-party OCR engine in a PDF Reader cannot do?  I am unfamiliar with the add-on or its function, but the name suggests that it does OCR on image scanned PDFs.

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locked Re: Possible to purchase Microsoft outlook separately?

Daniel McGee
 

I apologize  for posting to the wrong group and will keep it in mind for future conversations.

Thank you for the info that you provided though. It's much appreciated.      

On 26 Oct 2020, at 01:45, Sascha Cowley via groups.io <sascha.camille@...> wrote:

First, this topic almost certainly belongs on the chat sub-list.

Second, A search on the Microsoft website reveals this link to buy Microsoft Outlook, though it might not be exactly what you're after.


Re: Unable to share links on FB

Giles Turnbull
 

Hi mattias, thanks for that basic link. I wasn't aware of that version of the old m.facebook.com site that I always used to use.

I don't know whether Facebook will keep that old-style version permanently active, but I hope so! :)

Giles


Re: Unable to share links on FB

Giles Turnbull
 

Hi Sarah,

I use only Facebook mobile.

Giles


Re: Unable to share links on FB

mattias
 

it should be. mbasic.facebook.com

Den 26 oktober 2020 02:14:17 skrev "Kim Vaughn" <bluerobin39@...>:

Try using m.basic.facebook.com

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of mattias
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2020 4:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Unable to share links on FB

 

the new m.facebook.com are crap

Den 24 oktober 2020 16:40:24 skrev "Giles Turnbull" <giles.turnbull@...>:

I am struggling with several things on the new Facebook design, including discovering this morning when I tried to share a post that there doesn't seem to be any way to do that using NVDA!

Something else I tried to do today when I realised I couldn't share the post was to copy and paste the text I wanted to share into a message to two of my friends. I started a new group message to the two people and then pasted the text into the message. I activated the Send button and got the error that I needed to address the message to somebody! Even though the two people's names were still listed as being recipients!

In the old layout (and I'm using the mobile version of FB on my laptop and Firefox browser) I often used to use a custom feeling. I used to type in the feeling search field and activate the Search button, and the result would come up as a link I could use to add it to my post. There is still a search field but no search button ... so I assumed I'd type my feeling in the text field and the result would appear in some sort of list ... but it doesn't! There are buttons for Clear and Cancel but that's it. I've looked through the list of NVDA+F7 elements to see if there's anything disguised as a link, a form field or heading etc, but there's nothing. In fact all of the 120-or-so "standard" feelings like happy, confused, goofy, angry don't show up in any of the NVDA+F7 elements ... in the page itself they are not reported as clicable elements, even though they function that way.

In the old layout I could choose from I think it was 6 reactions to comments on my posts ... I could react with like, love, care, haha, sad and angry. Now it seems that Like is the only reaction available.

If any NVDAers have figured out ways to do these things I'd be hugely grateful for guidance ... I'd post on FB about it with the feeling: overjoyed! :)

Giles


Re: Unable to share links on FB

mattias
 

hm? this site dont exist

Den 26 oktober 2020 02:14:17 skrev "Kim Vaughn" <bluerobin39@...>:

Try using m.basic.facebook.com

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of mattias
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2020 4:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Unable to share links on FB

 

the new m.facebook.com are crap

Den 24 oktober 2020 16:40:24 skrev "Giles Turnbull" <giles.turnbull@...>:

I am struggling with several things on the new Facebook design, including discovering this morning when I tried to share a post that there doesn't seem to be any way to do that using NVDA!

Something else I tried to do today when I realised I couldn't share the post was to copy and paste the text I wanted to share into a message to two of my friends. I started a new group message to the two people and then pasted the text into the message. I activated the Send button and got the error that I needed to address the message to somebody! Even though the two people's names were still listed as being recipients!

In the old layout (and I'm using the mobile version of FB on my laptop and Firefox browser) I often used to use a custom feeling. I used to type in the feeling search field and activate the Search button, and the result would come up as a link I could use to add it to my post. There is still a search field but no search button ... so I assumed I'd type my feeling in the text field and the result would appear in some sort of list ... but it doesn't! There are buttons for Clear and Cancel but that's it. I've looked through the list of NVDA+F7 elements to see if there's anything disguised as a link, a form field or heading etc, but there's nothing. In fact all of the 120-or-so "standard" feelings like happy, confused, goofy, angry don't show up in any of the NVDA+F7 elements ... in the page itself they are not reported as clicable elements, even though they function that way.

In the old layout I could choose from I think it was 6 reactions to comments on my posts ... I could react with like, love, care, haha, sad and angry. Now it seems that Like is the only reaction available.

If any NVDAers have figured out ways to do these things I'd be hugely grateful for guidance ... I'd post on FB about it with the feeling: overjoyed! :)

Giles


Re: Unable to share links on FB

mattias
 

e.g the chat link are gone. a nightmear to find the number of frends now. before all changes you only need to click on profile,frends, and see the amount

Den 26 oktober 2020 06:02:32 skrev "Sarah k Alawami" <marrie12@...>:

I actually do not find this to be the case. I'm on m.facebook.com every day and can use all of the site with confidence, and ease of use. It works well with nvda, and is actually at times faster than the iOs app.

--

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Check out my adventures with a shadow machine.

to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on twitch. Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 25 Oct 2020, at 14:53, mattias wrote:

the new m.facebook.com are crap

Den 24 oktober 2020 16:40:24 skrev "Giles Turnbull" <giles.turnbull@...>:

I am struggling with several things on the new Facebook design, including discovering this morning when I tried to share a post that there doesn't seem to be any way to do that using NVDA!

Something else I tried to do today when I realised I couldn't share the post was to copy and paste the text I wanted to share into a message to two of my friends. I started a new group message to the two people and then pasted the text into the message. I activated the Send button and got the error that I needed to address the message to somebody! Even though the two people's names were still listed as being recipients!

In the old layout (and I'm using the mobile version of FB on my laptop and Firefox browser) I often used to use a custom feeling. I used to type in the feeling search field and activate the Search button, and the result would come up as a link I could use to add it to my post. There is still a search field but no search button ... so I assumed I'd type my feeling in the text field and the result would appear in some sort of list ... but it doesn't! There are buttons for Clear and Cancel but that's it. I've looked through the list of NVDA+F7 elements to see if there's anything disguised as a link, a form field or heading etc, but there's nothing. In fact all of the 120-or-so "standard" feelings like happy, confused, goofy, angry don't show up in any of the NVDA+F7 elements ... in the page itself they are not reported as clicable elements, even though they function that way.

In the old layout I could choose from I think it was 6 reactions to comments on my posts ... I could react with like, love, care, haha, sad and angry. Now it seems that Like is the only reaction available.

If any NVDAers have figured out ways to do these things I'd be hugely grateful for guidance ... I'd post on FB about it with the feeling: overjoyed! :)

Giles


NVDA Addon PDF2Text and python 3

felix keller
 

Hello list,
There was once the NVDA extension PDF2Text.
Could someone see if they could be converted to Python 3?
To see the extensions you can use the following link:
https://jeff.tdrealms.com/Add-Ons/PDF2Text.nvda-addon
I would look forward to feedback.
Kind regards
Felix Keller


Re: Unable to share links on FB

Sarah k Alawami
 

I actually do not find this to be the case. I'm on m.facebook.com every day and can use all of the site with confidence, and ease of use. It works well with nvda, and is actually at times faster than the iOs app.

--

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.

Check out my adventures with a shadow machine.

to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on twitch. Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 25 Oct 2020, at 14:53, mattias wrote:

the new m.facebook.com are crap

Den 24 oktober 2020 16:40:24 skrev "Giles Turnbull" <giles.turnbull@...>:

I am struggling with several things on the new Facebook design, including discovering this morning when I tried to share a post that there doesn't seem to be any way to do that using NVDA!

Something else I tried to do today when I realised I couldn't share the post was to copy and paste the text I wanted to share into a message to two of my friends. I started a new group message to the two people and then pasted the text into the message. I activated the Send button and got the error that I needed to address the message to somebody! Even though the two people's names were still listed as being recipients!

In the old layout (and I'm using the mobile version of FB on my laptop and Firefox browser) I often used to use a custom feeling. I used to type in the feeling search field and activate the Search button, and the result would come up as a link I could use to add it to my post. There is still a search field but no search button ... so I assumed I'd type my feeling in the text field and the result would appear in some sort of list ... but it doesn't! There are buttons for Clear and Cancel but that's it. I've looked through the list of NVDA+F7 elements to see if there's anything disguised as a link, a form field or heading etc, but there's nothing. In fact all of the 120-or-so "standard" feelings like happy, confused, goofy, angry don't show up in any of the NVDA+F7 elements ... in the page itself they are not reported as clicable elements, even though they function that way.

In the old layout I could choose from I think it was 6 reactions to comments on my posts ... I could react with like, love, care, haha, sad and angry. Now it seems that Like is the only reaction available.

If any NVDAers have figured out ways to do these things I'd be hugely grateful for guidance ... I'd post on FB about it with the feeling: overjoyed! :)

Giles


locked Re: Possible to purchase Microsoft outlook separately?

Sascha Cowley
 

First, this topic almost certainly belongs on the chat sub-list.

Second, A search on the Microsoft website reveals this link to buy Microsoft Outlook, though it might not be exactly what you're after.


Re: Unable to share links on FB

Kim Vaughn
 

Try using m.basic.facebook.com

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of mattias
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2020 4:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Unable to share links on FB

 

the new m.facebook.com are crap

Den 24 oktober 2020 16:40:24 skrev "Giles Turnbull" <giles.turnbull@...>:

I am struggling with several things on the new Facebook design, including discovering this morning when I tried to share a post that there doesn't seem to be any way to do that using NVDA!

Something else I tried to do today when I realised I couldn't share the post was to copy and paste the text I wanted to share into a message to two of my friends. I started a new group message to the two people and then pasted the text into the message. I activated the Send button and got the error that I needed to address the message to somebody! Even though the two people's names were still listed as being recipients!

In the old layout (and I'm using the mobile version of FB on my laptop and Firefox browser) I often used to use a custom feeling. I used to type in the feeling search field and activate the Search button, and the result would come up as a link I could use to add it to my post. There is still a search field but no search button ... so I assumed I'd type my feeling in the text field and the result would appear in some sort of list ... but it doesn't! There are buttons for Clear and Cancel but that's it. I've looked through the list of NVDA+F7 elements to see if there's anything disguised as a link, a form field or heading etc, but there's nothing. In fact all of the 120-or-so "standard" feelings like happy, confused, goofy, angry don't show up in any of the NVDA+F7 elements ... in the page itself they are not reported as clicable elements, even though they function that way.

In the old layout I could choose from I think it was 6 reactions to comments on my posts ... I could react with like, love, care, haha, sad and angry. Now it seems that Like is the only reaction available.

If any NVDAers have figured out ways to do these things I'd be hugely grateful for guidance ... I'd post on FB about it with the feeling: overjoyed! :)

Giles


Re: In-Process is out

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Mary,

Interesting, you are right, there is an "add to cart" button (so you can just add it to your cart now if you know what it is and that you want it) - visually it has "add to cart" but NVDA reads "Read more" - I'll work out how to fix that.

In the meantime, here is the direct link to the page with more information: https://www.nvaccess.org/product/nvda-productivity-bundle/

Quentin.

On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 11:53 AM Mary Otten <maryotten@...> wrote:

I just went to the NVDA shop and found that when I clicked on the link to learn more about the bundle, it added that bundle to my cart, but didn't say anything more about the bundle. There isn't a separate add to cart link for that one, but I don't think learn more should add the product to the cart. I tried it twice with the same result both times.


Mary


On 10/22/2020 5:08 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Good morning everyone,

The latest In-Process blog is out, including information on NVDA 2020.3, NVDACon 2020 (and a highlight from NVDACon 2018), and information on reporting formatting information with NVDA+f (and just what does NVDA+shift+f do?). Read now at: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/in-process-23rd-october-2020/

Have a great weekend!

Quentin.
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Zoom and Screen Sharing

Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...>
 

HI.  Apologies for asking this particular question but I do need some help and advise if it could be managed.


For the next two months, I'll be conducting, fortnightly, the singing segment for my church's Kids worship service,  Sunday School, if you like.  The services will be conducted on the Zoom platform.  Have any any of you done presentations on Zoom?  Have you been successful in screen sharing, presenting your segments with Video or Power Point?  If so, I would like some help, advise and hints as to how to manage and handle Screen shares as a blind or visually impaired person, the dos and don'ts and what to avoid.  All input would be most valuable and appreciated as I will be embarking on this venture for the first time.  Thank you and cheers!


Re: NVDA Settings Documentation

Quentin Christensen
 

David,

Those questions about using shorter lines and justifying them are all visual layout things you might do in the HTML code itself to make text stand out.  The line length in NVDA's browse mode settings is purely about the maximum amount of text NVDA will read each time you press the down arrow when reading a web page.  If the line is shorter, then it just reads to the end of the line.  NVDA doesn't change how anything appears visually.

Re Word, no it doesn't use NVDA's maximum line length in Browse mode.  Without looking at the code, my off the top of my head guess is because it doesn't need to use a virtual document for Word because the caret can move around the text just fine.  In a web browser, NVDA take the information from the browser and presents its own virtual representation of that (again, not changing what is shown on screen, and this is why sometimes users have found that NVDA can be at a point on a web page not visible on screen - although we regularly work to improve that synchronisation, and I'm not sure if it is still an issue actually).

Quentin.

On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 9:42 AM Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
If the app uses browse mode, use page layout means that a page will be
formatted more the way a sighted user would see it.  The one instance I am
aware of is that if you don't use page layout, more than one link may be
shown on a line or I believe a link may be on the same line as nonlink text.
I don't use page layout because I want links each to be on their own lines.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Logue
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2020 5:34 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Settings Documentation

This is so helpful.  I've wondered about these settings for a while but
didn't look at the documentation.

I just tried setting the line length to 40 which actually is helpful in this
web mail web app.

Now I'm curious how the line and page length settings are effected by use
page layout...

Thanks Gene.


Bob

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 6:03:12 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Settings Documentation

It might be a good idea to add that when moving by line in a web page
looking for something, the user might want to make the lines shorter so that
you don't have to listen to long lines of text to make sure you haven't
missed the information when you move to another line.











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Training and Support Manager


Re: Unable to share links on FB

mattias
 

the new m.facebook.com are crap

Den 24 oktober 2020 16:40:24 skrev "Giles Turnbull" <giles.turnbull@...>:

I am struggling with several things on the new Facebook design, including discovering this morning when I tried to share a post that there doesn't seem to be any way to do that using NVDA!

Something else I tried to do today when I realised I couldn't share the post was to copy and paste the text I wanted to share into a message to two of my friends. I started a new group message to the two people and then pasted the text into the message. I activated the Send button and got the error that I needed to address the message to somebody! Even though the two people's names were still listed as being recipients!

In the old layout (and I'm using the mobile version of FB on my laptop and Firefox browser) I often used to use a custom feeling. I used to type in the feeling search field and activate the Search button, and the result would come up as a link I could use to add it to my post. There is still a search field but no search button ... so I assumed I'd type my feeling in the text field and the result would appear in some sort of list ... but it doesn't! There are buttons for Clear and Cancel but that's it. I've looked through the list of NVDA+F7 elements to see if there's anything disguised as a link, a form field or heading etc, but there's nothing. In fact all of the 120-or-so "standard" feelings like happy, confused, goofy, angry don't show up in any of the NVDA+F7 elements ... in the page itself they are not reported as clicable elements, even though they function that way.

In the old layout I could choose from I think it was 6 reactions to comments on my posts ... I could react with like, love, care, haha, sad and angry. Now it seems that Like is the only reaction available.

If any NVDAers have figured out ways to do these things I'd be hugely grateful for guidance ... I'd post on FB about it with the feeling: overjoyed! :)

Giles


locked Possible to purchase Microsoft outlook separately?

Daniel McGee
 

Hi all

Was just wondering ,is it at all possible to purchase Microsoft Outlook separately, as a stand-alone app?

I already have office 2019 student addition put on my windows 10 system. When I brought it two years ago. So obviously, it would be silly to buy the business version of office 2019. Just to get outlook on the machine. Hence why I am inquiring if outlook can be purchased as a stand-alone app to be used with my microsoft account.

Thanks for any input on the matter.


Re: Copy Spoken Text

 

On Sun, Oct 25, 2020 at 02:28 PM, E.T. wrote:
Agreed. This "missing" function took me by surprise.
-
Accidents of history, really.  NVDA started life as a "minimal" core function screen reader that allowed easy extensibility via add-ons.   As time has gone by it's become a far less "minimal" core, often via the absorption of what had started out life as an add-on into the core functionality.

But when the functionality exists as an add-on, the pressing need for it to "become core" is greatly minimized.  So, often, novel core functions will be created rather than integrating add-ons into the core itself.

It's really no different than JAWS in that respect.  There are lots of things that still are done via scripts in JAWS that are analogous to the things done in add-ons in NVDA.

End users, particularly those new to screen readers, need to be made aware of the existence of these scripts/add-ons out there, both official and home grown (but most often shared with whoever needs/wants them).  There are all sorts of arcane tricks that are handled via these that will likely never be integrated into core functionality.
 
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It’s hard waking up and realizing it’s not always black and white.

     ~ Kelley Boorn

 


Re: Copy Spoken Text

E.T.
 

Agreed. This "missing" function took me by surprise.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
Email Address: Ancient.Aliens@icloud.com
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
will make violent revolution inevitable."
--John F. Kennedy

On 10/25/2020 10:03 AM, Luke Robinett wrote:
Kudos to somebody for creating this plugin but I think this should be rolled into the core functionality of NVDA. Being able to copy the last spoken item to the clipboard is standard in VoiceOver and other popular screen reader programs and I can’t imagine it would be too difficult to add.

On Oct 24, 2020, at 7:16 AM, E.T. via groups.io <ancient.aliens=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:

 Thanks guys, its appreciated.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
Email Address: Ancient.Aliens@icloud.com
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
will make violent revolution inevitable."
--John F. Kennedy

On 10/23/2020 6:42 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
Right on the page that Mr. Taylor originally gave is this: The add-on allows you to review the most recent 100 items spoken by NVDA, as well as copy the selected item to the clipboard. By default, use Shift+F11 to move back through the history, Shift+F12 to move forwards and F12 on its own to copy the selected item. These hotkeys can be updated from within the Speech category of NVDA's Input gestures dialog.
Anything on the clipboard is pasted via the standard Windows paste command: CTRL+V (presuming you're not using the new multi-item clipboard).
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~ Kelley Boorn



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