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Re: Change in CTRL+Backspace behavior in MS-Word, but not Notepad or Outlook

 

Hi,

You can’t turn these off at the moment – I’ll introduce a quick workaround next week that will stop these announcements as part of Windows 10 App Essentials 20.03.1.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of konnieellis71@...
Sent: Saturday, March 7, 2020 8:43 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Change in CTRL+Backspace behavior in MS-Word, but not Notepad or Outlook

 

Thanks. Just need to know how to turn off these notifications, and what wondering what other types of notifications I’ll be missing?

Konnie

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Saturday, March 7, 2020 5:41 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Change in CTRL+Backspace behavior in MS-Word, but not Notepad or Outlook

 

Hi,

Ha, found the root cause: this is Word issue, not NVDA. In short, Word announces this, which NVDA picks up. The short-term solution is to block all sorts of announcements like this from Word, with the ideal solution being blocking only some messages.

Technical: UIA notification event problem.

I’ll comment on a potential fix on a GitHub issue Quentin has created.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of konnieellis71@...
Sent: Friday, March 6, 2020 12:02 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Change in CTRL+Backspace behavior in MS-Word, but not Notepad or Outlook

 

Lately, when I hit the control+backspace keys to delete a word, NVDA does not announce the word I am deleting. Instead, it says “delete back word.”

I would much prefer that it says the word I am deleting, as it always has before.

I have also since tested this in Notepad, and in Outlook. Both of those are acting normally. They do not say “delete back word.”

If anyone can help me figure out how to set this back to normal in MS Word, please let me know. Thanks so much.

Konnie Ellis


Re: Sentence nav: I can not read the previous sentence in some documents using notepad ++

Gene
 

I am using correct terms.  If people don't understand or know them, they can ask.  Part of learning a program is learning the authorized terms. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Hareth
Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2020 6:26 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Sentence nav: I can not read the previous sentence in some documents using notepad ++

Gene,
I'm sorry, But you truly muddying the waters to anyone that  haven't
study your own terminology.
Most of the people asking questions here are non English natives, Yet
you try to shove and force your own sometimes subjective opinionated
terminology as a standard reference.
Please try to make it simple and as directly to the point as you can,
that makes it easy to understand instead of going on an on with non
useful personalized terms and definitions.

On 3/7/20, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
> I didn't say he wasn't using the application cursor.  I know he is.  You are
> telling me not to respond and you don't understand what I'm saying.  IU'm
> saying that I have seen circumstances when someone is using the application
> cursor but is in screen review.  You can do that in NVDA.  I'm saying that
> there are cases when you won't see what is expected if you are in screen
> review and use the application cursor.
> I didn't say my proposal was the solution.  But since it takes almost no
> time to make sure which screen review mode you are using, I thought it was
> worht suggesting.  Since I've seen this, I proposed it as the possible
> cause.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Rui Fontes
> Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2020 11:52 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Sentence nav: I can not read the previous sentence in
> some documents using notepad ++
>
>
> No, Gene! Please, do not respond to problems you do not know!
>
>
>
>
> He is using the edit cursor or system carete...
>
>
>
>
> Rui Fontes
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Às 17:33 de 07/03/2020, Gene escreveu:
>
>   Then you are evidently using object navigation and that isn't the cause of
> the problem.  If you are using the desktop layout, you can check this in the
> following manner:
>   Hold the numpad insert and press numpad one to move one way through the
> available review modes.  Numpad insert numpad 7 will move you the other way.
>  If you use these two commands, you can find object review and stop there if
> you want to be completely sure.
>
>   Gene
>   ----- Original Message -----
>
>   From: Daniel Damacena
>   Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2020 11:23 AM
>   To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>   Subject: Re: [nvda] Sentence nav: I can not read the previous sentence in
> some documents using notepad ++
>
>
>   Sorry, I don't know how to call the normal cursor in english. I didn't use
> any other cursor before trying to use the addon.
>
>
>   Em 07/03/2020 13:06, Gene escreveu:
>
>     There is no PC cursor.  That is a JAWS name for more or less the
> application cursor.  Do you know about the review modes such as screen
> review and object review?  If you are using screen review, you will get
> unexpected and unwanted results in some situations.  You should always
> switch to object review after you finish using a different review mode.  If
> you don't know about these modes and have never changed them, you are
> probably using object navigation.
>
>     Gene
>     ----- Original Message -----
>
>     From: Daniel Damacena
>     Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2020 5:35 AM
>     To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>     Subject: Re: [nvda] Sentence nav: I can not read the previous sentence
> in some documents using notepad ++
>
>
>     I am using pc cursor. There's no need to change it as far I can tell...
>
>     Thank you!
>
>
>     Em 07/03/2020 02:41, Gene escreveu:
>
>       Are you using object review or screen review or something else?  I
> have never used the add-on you are using but even so, be sure you are in
> object navigation unless the add-on explicitly says you should be in
> something else.
>
>       Gene
>       ----- Original Message -----
>
>       From: Daniel Damacena
>       Sent: Friday, March 06, 2020 11:24 PM
>       To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>       Subject: [nvda] Sentence nav: I can not read the previous sentence in
> some documents using notepad ++
>
>
>       Hi, folks!
>
>       There's something quite annoying going on here: when I try to read the
>
>       previous sentence on a document using notepad ++, it reads the current
>
>       sentence instead of reading the previous one.
>
>       Is there someone there having the same issue?
>
>       I tried to use notepad from windows, but sentence nav is too slow on
> it.
>       It takes about four seconds to read each sentence.
>
>       I have NVDA 2019.3.1 and last sentence nav's version available on
> githup.
>
>       Thank you so much!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>



Re: Change in CTRL+Backspace behavior in MS-Word, but not Notepad or Outlook

 

On Sat, Mar 7, 2020 at 08:07 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
I do wander if someone can do feedback to microsoft or ring microsoft access and report this.
NVDA's development team (like that of most major software makers, and NVDA definitely counts in the screen reader world) has direct contacts with Microsoft.  That's been mentioned in this forum several times in the past.

I have every reason to believe that once Joseph reports the issue in GitHub that the appropriate communications with Microsoft will occur as a natural progression.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.

       ~ Madonna

 

 


Re: Change in CTRL+Backspace behavior in MS-Word, but not Notepad or Outlook

 

Hmmm I wander if this is a word issue if someone has contacted the microsoft guy supposedly on the win10 list.

I think his name is shuching, he doesn't often send at all, but pops up from time to time when a problem is really bad.

So while I am unsure if he is on this list to, its possible he allready knows about it and is doing something about it without telling us.

I do wander if someone can do feadback to microsoft or ring microsoft access and report this.



On 8/03/2020 1:41 am, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi,

Ha, found the root cause: this is Word issue, not NVDA. In short, Word announces this, which NVDA picks up. The short-term solution is to block all sorts of announcements like this from Word, with the ideal solution being blocking only some messages.

Technical: UIA notification event problem.

I’ll comment on a potential fix on a GitHub issue Quentin has created.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of konnieellis71@...
Sent: Friday, March 6, 2020 12:02 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Change in CTRL+Backspace behavior in MS-Word, but not Notepad or Outlook

 

Lately, when I hit the control+backspace keys to delete a word, NVDA does not announce the word I am deleting. Instead, it says “delete back word.”

I would much prefer that it says the word I am deleting, as it always has before.

I have also since tested this in Notepad, and in Outlook. Both of those are acting normally. They do not say “delete back word.”

If anyone can help me figure out how to set this back to normal in MS Word, please let me know. Thanks so much.

Konnie Ellis


Re: Sentence nav: I can not read the previous sentence in some documents using notepad ++

Hareth
 

Gene,
I'm sorry, But you truly muddying the waters to anyone that haven't
study your own terminology.
Most of the people asking questions here are non English natives, Yet
you try to shove and force your own sometimes subjective opinionated
terminology as a standard reference.
Please try to make it simple and as directly to the point as you can,
that makes it easy to understand instead of going on an on with non
useful personalized terms and definitions.

On 3/7/20, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
I didn't say he wasn't using the application cursor. I know he is. You are
telling me not to respond and you don't understand what I'm saying. IU'm
saying that I have seen circumstances when someone is using the application
cursor but is in screen review. You can do that in NVDA. I'm saying that
there are cases when you won't see what is expected if you are in screen
review and use the application cursor.
I didn't say my proposal was the solution. But since it takes almost no
time to make sure which screen review mode you are using, I thought it was
worht suggesting. Since I've seen this, I proposed it as the possible
cause.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Rui Fontes
Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2020 11:52 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Sentence nav: I can not read the previous sentence in
some documents using notepad ++


No, Gene! Please, do not respond to problems you do not know!




He is using the edit cursor or system carete...




Rui Fontes







Às 17:33 de 07/03/2020, Gene escreveu:

Then you are evidently using object navigation and that isn't the cause of
the problem. If you are using the desktop layout, you can check this in the
following manner:
Hold the numpad insert and press numpad one to move one way through the
available review modes. Numpad insert numpad 7 will move you the other way.
If you use these two commands, you can find object review and stop there if
you want to be completely sure.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Daniel Damacena
Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2020 11:23 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Sentence nav: I can not read the previous sentence in
some documents using notepad ++


Sorry, I don't know how to call the normal cursor in english. I didn't use
any other cursor before trying to use the addon.


Em 07/03/2020 13:06, Gene escreveu:

There is no PC cursor. That is a JAWS name for more or less the
application cursor. Do you know about the review modes such as screen
review and object review? If you are using screen review, you will get
unexpected and unwanted results in some situations. You should always
switch to object review after you finish using a different review mode. If
you don't know about these modes and have never changed them, you are
probably using object navigation.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Daniel Damacena
Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2020 5:35 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Sentence nav: I can not read the previous sentence
in some documents using notepad ++


I am using pc cursor. There's no need to change it as far I can tell...

Thank you!


Em 07/03/2020 02:41, Gene escreveu:

Are you using object review or screen review or something else? I
have never used the add-on you are using but even so, be sure you are in
object navigation unless the add-on explicitly says you should be in
something else.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Daniel Damacena
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2020 11:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Sentence nav: I can not read the previous sentence in
some documents using notepad ++


Hi, folks!

There's something quite annoying going on here: when I try to read the

previous sentence on a document using notepad ++, it reads the current

sentence instead of reading the previous one.

Is there someone there having the same issue?

I tried to use notepad from windows, but sentence nav is too slow on
it.
It takes about four seconds to read each sentence.

I have NVDA 2019.3.1 and last sentence nav's version available on
githup.

Thank you so much!








Making a Speech Profile with Two Different SAPI 5 Settings?

 

Hello,
I have my main synth as an SAPI voice and I have another SAPI voice that I use for showing sighted users what's going on with NVDA.
One is rate 75, and the other is rate 40.
How do I make 2 different speech profiles with the SAPI 5 speech engine?
When I try to do it, the voice is the same from one profile to the next. I can make a profile with 2 different speech engines, but not 2 with SAPI 5.
This is NVDA 2019.3.
Thank you,


Re: Sentence nav: I can not read the previous sentence in some documents using notepad ++

Gene
 

I didn't say he wasn't using the application cursor.  I know he is.  You are telling me not to respond and you don't understand what I'm saying.  IU'm saying that I have seen circumstances when someone is using the application cursor but is in screen review.  You can do that in NVDA.  I'm saying that there are cases when you won't see what is expected if you are in screen review and use the application cursor.
I didn't say my proposal was the solution.  But since it takes almost no time to make sure which screen review mode you are using, I thought it was worht suggesting.  Since I've seen this, I proposed it as the possible cause. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Rui Fontes
Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2020 11:52 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Sentence nav: I can not read the previous sentence in some documents using notepad ++

No, Gene! Please, do not respond to problems you do not know!


He is using the edit cursor or system carete...


Rui Fontes



Às 17:33 de 07/03/2020, Gene escreveu:
Then you are evidently using object navigation and that isn't the cause of the problem.  If you are using the desktop layout, you can check this in the following manner:
Hold the numpad insert and press numpad one to move one way through the available review modes.  Numpad insert numpad 7 will move you the other way.  If you use these two commands, you can find object review and stop there if you want to be completely sure.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2020 11:23 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Sentence nav: I can not read the previous sentence in some documents using notepad ++

Sorry, I don't know how to call the normal cursor in english. I didn't use any other cursor before trying to use the addon.

Em 07/03/2020 13:06, Gene escreveu:
There is no PC cursor.  That is a JAWS name for more or less the application cursor.  Do you know about the review modes such as screen review and object review?  If you are using screen review, you will get unexpected and unwanted results in some situations.  You should always switch to object review after you finish using a different review mode.  If you don't know about these modes and have never changed them, you are probably using object navigation. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2020 5:35 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Sentence nav: I can not read the previous sentence in some documents using notepad ++

I am using pc cursor. There's no need to change it as far I can tell...

Thank you!

Em 07/03/2020 02:41, Gene escreveu:
Are you using object review or screen review or something else?  I have never used the add-on you are using but even so, be sure you are in object navigation unless the add-on explicitly says you should be in something else.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2020 11:24 PM
Subject: [nvda] Sentence nav: I can not read the previous sentence in some documents using notepad ++

Hi, folks!

There's something quite annoying going on here: when I try to read the
previous sentence on a document using notepad ++, it reads the current
sentence instead of reading the previous one.

Is there someone there having the same issue?

I tried to use notepad from windows, but sentence nav is too slow on it.
It takes about four seconds to read each sentence.

I have NVDA 2019.3.1 and last sentence nav's version available on githup.

Thank you so much!




Re: Sentence nav: I can not read the previous sentence in some documents using notepad ++

Rui Fontes
 

No, Gene! Please, do not respond to problems you do not know!


He is using the edit cursor or system carete...


Rui Fontes



Às 17:33 de 07/03/2020, Gene escreveu:

Then you are evidently using object navigation and that isn't the cause of the problem.  If you are using the desktop layout, you can check this in the following manner:
Hold the numpad insert and press numpad one to move one way through the available review modes.  Numpad insert numpad 7 will move you the other way.  If you use these two commands, you can find object review and stop there if you want to be completely sure.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2020 11:23 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Sentence nav: I can not read the previous sentence in some documents using notepad ++

Sorry, I don't know how to call the normal cursor in english. I didn't use any other cursor before trying to use the addon.

Em 07/03/2020 13:06, Gene escreveu:
There is no PC cursor.  That is a JAWS name for more or less the application cursor.  Do you know about the review modes such as screen review and object review?  If you are using screen review, you will get unexpected and unwanted results in some situations.  You should always switch to object review after you finish using a different review mode.  If you don't know about these modes and have never changed them, you are probably using object navigation. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2020 5:35 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Sentence nav: I can not read the previous sentence in some documents using notepad ++

I am using pc cursor. There's no need to change it as far I can tell...

Thank you!

Em 07/03/2020 02:41, Gene escreveu:
Are you using object review or screen review or something else?  I have never used the add-on you are using but even so, be sure you are in object navigation unless the add-on explicitly says you should be in something else.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2020 11:24 PM
Subject: [nvda] Sentence nav: I can not read the previous sentence in some documents using notepad ++

Hi, folks!

There's something quite annoying going on here: when I try to read the
previous sentence on a document using notepad ++, it reads the current
sentence instead of reading the previous one.

Is there someone there having the same issue?

I tried to use notepad from windows, but sentence nav is too slow on it.
It takes about four seconds to read each sentence.

I have NVDA 2019.3.1 and last sentence nav's version available on githup.

Thank you so much!




Re: Sentence nav: I can not read the previous sentence in some documents using notepad ++

Gene
 

Then you are evidently using object navigation and that isn't the cause of the problem.  If you are using the desktop layout, you can check this in the following manner:
Hold the numpad insert and press numpad one to move one way through the available review modes.  Numpad insert numpad 7 will move you the other way.  If you use these two commands, you can find object review and stop there if you want to be completely sure.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2020 11:23 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Sentence nav: I can not read the previous sentence in some documents using notepad ++

Sorry, I don't know how to call the normal cursor in english. I didn't use any other cursor before trying to use the addon.

Em 07/03/2020 13:06, Gene escreveu:
There is no PC cursor.  That is a JAWS name for more or less the application cursor.  Do you know about the review modes such as screen review and object review?  If you are using screen review, you will get unexpected and unwanted results in some situations.  You should always switch to object review after you finish using a different review mode.  If you don't know about these modes and have never changed them, you are probably using object navigation. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2020 5:35 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Sentence nav: I can not read the previous sentence in some documents using notepad ++

I am using pc cursor. There's no need to change it as far I can tell...

Thank you!

Em 07/03/2020 02:41, Gene escreveu:
Are you using object review or screen review or something else?  I have never used the add-on you are using but even so, be sure you are in object navigation unless the add-on explicitly says you should be in something else.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2020 11:24 PM
Subject: [nvda] Sentence nav: I can not read the previous sentence in some documents using notepad ++

Hi, folks!

There's something quite annoying going on here: when I try to read the
previous sentence on a document using notepad ++, it reads the current
sentence instead of reading the previous one.

Is there someone there having the same issue?

I tried to use notepad from windows, but sentence nav is too slow on it.
It takes about four seconds to read each sentence.

I have NVDA 2019.3.1 and last sentence nav's version available on githup.

Thank you so much!




Re: Sentence nav: I can not read the previous sentence in some documents using notepad ++

Daniel Damacena
 

2,7 mb.

Using NVDA 2019.2.1 and sentence nav 2.5 it reads right away. It must bug some bug on the current version.

I think the best option for me is to use a portable version of NVDA 2019.2.1 and sentence nav 2.5 until it's fixed. I only need to use it when I study, so it's not so annoying.

Em 07/03/2020 09:31, Rui Fontes escreveu:

Gene, why you answer to questions you are not familiarized?


Daniel, how big are the files you try to read in NotePad? I have tried with a 1MB file and it tooks between 1 and 2 seconds to start reading a sentence or phrase...


Rui Fontes

NVDA portuguese team


Às 11:35 de 07/03/2020, Daniel Damacena escreveu:

I am using pc cursor. There's no need to change it as far I can tell...

Thank you!

Em 07/03/2020 02:41, Gene escreveu:
Are you using object review or screen review or something else?  I have never used the add-on you are using but even so, be sure you are in object navigation unless the add-on explicitly says you should be in something else.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2020 11:24 PM
Subject: [nvda] Sentence nav: I can not read the previous sentence in some documents using notepad ++

Hi, folks!

There's something quite annoying going on here: when I try to read the
previous sentence on a document using notepad ++, it reads the current
sentence instead of reading the previous one.

Is there someone there having the same issue?

I tried to use notepad from windows, but sentence nav is too slow on it.
It takes about four seconds to read each sentence.

I have NVDA 2019.3.1 and last sentence nav's version available on githup.

Thank you so much!




Re: Sentence nav: I can not read the previous sentence in some documents using notepad ++

Daniel Damacena
 

Sorry, I don't know how to call the normal cursor in english. I didn't use any other cursor before trying to use the addon.

Em 07/03/2020 13:06, Gene escreveu:

There is no PC cursor.  That is a JAWS name for more or less the application cursor.  Do you know about the review modes such as screen review and object review?  If you are using screen review, you will get unexpected and unwanted results in some situations.  You should always switch to object review after you finish using a different review mode.  If you don't know about these modes and have never changed them, you are probably using object navigation. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2020 5:35 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Sentence nav: I can not read the previous sentence in some documents using notepad ++

I am using pc cursor. There's no need to change it as far I can tell...

Thank you!

Em 07/03/2020 02:41, Gene escreveu:
Are you using object review or screen review or something else?  I have never used the add-on you are using but even so, be sure you are in object navigation unless the add-on explicitly says you should be in something else.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2020 11:24 PM
Subject: [nvda] Sentence nav: I can not read the previous sentence in some documents using notepad ++

Hi, folks!

There's something quite annoying going on here: when I try to read the
previous sentence on a document using notepad ++, it reads the current
sentence instead of reading the previous one.

Is there someone there having the same issue?

I tried to use notepad from windows, but sentence nav is too slow on it.
It takes about four seconds to read each sentence.

I have NVDA 2019.3.1 and last sentence nav's version available on githup.

Thank you so much!




Re: Sentence nav: I can not read the previous sentence in some documents using notepad ++

Gene
 

Because, though I haven't used this specific program, I have observed that not using object navigation causes unexpected results that people wouldn't realize had anything to do with using screen rview.  In lists of files and folders, I have found that using screen review results in me hearing information spoken that doesn't reflect where I am.  I didn't say this is the cause of the problem.  I asked what review mode is being used in case it isn't object review.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Rui Fontes
Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2020 6:31 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Sentence nav: I can not read the previous sentence in some documents using notepad ++

Gene, why you answer to questions you are not familiarized?


Daniel, how big are the files you try to read in NotePad? I have tried with a 1MB file and it tooks between 1 and 2 seconds to start reading a sentence or phrase...


Rui Fontes

NVDA portuguese team


Às 11:35 de 07/03/2020, Daniel Damacena escreveu:

I am using pc cursor. There's no need to change it as far I can tell...

Thank you!

Em 07/03/2020 02:41, Gene escreveu:
Are you using object review or screen review or something else?  I have never used the add-on you are using but even so, be sure you are in object navigation unless the add-on explicitly says you should be in something else.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2020 11:24 PM
Subject: [nvda] Sentence nav: I can not read the previous sentence in some documents using notepad ++

Hi, folks!

There's something quite annoying going on here: when I try to read the
previous sentence on a document using notepad ++, it reads the current
sentence instead of reading the previous one.

Is there someone there having the same issue?

I tried to use notepad from windows, but sentence nav is too slow on it.
It takes about four seconds to read each sentence.

I have NVDA 2019.3.1 and last sentence nav's version available on githup.

Thank you so much!




Re: Change in CTRL+Backspace behavior in MS-Word, but not Notepad or Outlook

Konnie Ellis
 

Thanks. Just need to know how to turn off these notifications, and what wondering what other types of notifications I’ll be missing?

Konnie

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Saturday, March 7, 2020 5:41 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Change in CTRL+Backspace behavior in MS-Word, but not Notepad or Outlook

 

Hi,

Ha, found the root cause: this is Word issue, not NVDA. In short, Word announces this, which NVDA picks up. The short-term solution is to block all sorts of announcements like this from Word, with the ideal solution being blocking only some messages.

Technical: UIA notification event problem.

I’ll comment on a potential fix on a GitHub issue Quentin has created.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of konnieellis71@...
Sent: Friday, March 6, 2020 12:02 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Change in CTRL+Backspace behavior in MS-Word, but not Notepad or Outlook

 

Lately, when I hit the control+backspace keys to delete a word, NVDA does not announce the word I am deleting. Instead, it says “delete back word.”

I would much prefer that it says the word I am deleting, as it always has before.

I have also since tested this in Notepad, and in Outlook. Both of those are acting normally. They do not say “delete back word.”

If anyone can help me figure out how to set this back to normal in MS Word, please let me know. Thanks so much.

Konnie Ellis


Re: Sentence nav: I can not read the previous sentence in some documents using notepad ++

Gene
 

There is no PC cursor.  That is a JAWS name for more or less the application cursor.  Do you know about the review modes such as screen review and object review?  If you are using screen review, you will get unexpected and unwanted results in some situations.  You should always switch to object review after you finish using a different review mode.  If you don't know about these modes and have never changed them, you are probably using object navigation. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2020 5:35 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Sentence nav: I can not read the previous sentence in some documents using notepad ++

I am using pc cursor. There's no need to change it as far I can tell...

Thank you!

Em 07/03/2020 02:41, Gene escreveu:
Are you using object review or screen review or something else?  I have never used the add-on you are using but even so, be sure you are in object navigation unless the add-on explicitly says you should be in something else.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2020 11:24 PM
Subject: [nvda] Sentence nav: I can not read the previous sentence in some documents using notepad ++

Hi, folks!

There's something quite annoying going on here: when I try to read the
previous sentence on a document using notepad ++, it reads the current
sentence instead of reading the previous one.

Is there someone there having the same issue?

I tried to use notepad from windows, but sentence nav is too slow on it.
It takes about four seconds to read each sentence.

I have NVDA 2019.3.1 and last sentence nav's version available on githup.

Thank you so much!




Re: Hard and soft cursor in NVDA?

 

I honestly have no idea what distinction you're trying to make, as I've never heard "hard" and "soft" used as adjectives for system cursor versus screen reader cursor, for instance.

I'd suggest you review the Commands Quick Reference looking at the information regarding the review cursor and/or object navigation.  You can bring that up with NVDA+N,H,Q

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.

       ~ Madonna

 

 


Hard and soft cursor in NVDA?

Martin Näf <m.naef@...>
 

Ya, hard and soft cursor: Where are they hidden?

Martin


Re: Announcement: ending development of StationPlaylist add-on

Mark <marktyler2014@...>
 

Hi Joseph,

I would like to just thank you for all the hard work you have done over the 7 years

Making SPL a pleasure to work with

Mark.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Joseph Lee
Sent: 07 March 2020 04:48
To: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Announcement: ending development of StationPlaylist add-on

 

Hello NVDA community,

 

It is with heavy heart that I announce that I’m stepping down from active development of StationPlaylist add-on, effective about a year from now. For the last seven years, SPL add-on grew from a small app module (developed way back in 2011 by Geoff Shang and James Teh) to one of the most powerful and recognizable add-ons out there. Developments in NVDA brought interesting features to SPL add-on such as concept of broadcast profiles, while concepts developed from SPL add-on are planned to be incorporated into NVDA such as add-on updating facility.

 

As I thought about what my life would look like in the near future, it has become clear to me that I need to let go of various things, including SPL add-on. Although developing the add-on was a fun experience and taught me many things, I need to focus on more important things, the most immediate one being getting an undergraduate degree so I can focus on graduate school in the near future. I’m hoping that whoever is going to maintain this add-on from next year onwards will upgrade the add-on significantly and make it more productive for broadcasters everywhere.

 

To ease this transition, I’ll stop accepting feature requests soon – I’ll announce this when that happens. I’ll focus on adding one or two high priority requests this summer (winter in southern hemisphere), then focus on bug fixes and needed changes for the rest of the year. In March 2021 or 30 days after NVDA 2021.1 is released, I’ll turn off my transmitter i.e. no more SPL add-on releases from me (development snapshots will end in early 2021).

 

To everyone who provided valuable feedback for the last seven years, thank you.

Cheers,

Joseph

 


Re: What is good voice suggestions Voices

molly the blind tech lover
 

My favorite  is Catherin.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gary Metzler
Sent: Friday, March 6, 2020 8:14 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] What is good voice suggestions Voices

 

My favorite is zera

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Friday, March 6, 2020 4:29 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] What is good voice suggestions Voices

 

What’s your favorite voice from OneCore?

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Friday, March 6, 2020 4:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] What is good voice suggestions Voices

 

I also love 1core. It's very responsive, and does not freeze up on me and I love extremely fast, perhaps maybe once every half second or so, and no lag at all, especially when I have to make quick choices. You won't be able to hear it as I am using VAC but trust me, it's responsive. Maybe a sound card issue perhaps?

Blessings and happy Friday.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.

to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on [twitch.](http://twitch.tv/ke7zum] Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

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On 6 Mar 2020, at 12:22, Cecelia Rodriguez wrote:

I have tried that synthesizer but it freezes if you move too fast.

On Mar 6, 2020, at 2:55 PM, molly the blind tech lover brainardmolly@... wrote:

Hi.
You could try the windows OneCore . . .

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io nvda@nvda.groups.io On Behalf Of Cecelia
Rodriguez
Sent: Friday, March 6, 2020 2:14 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] What is good voice suggestions Voices

What are song Suggestions for voices that are as
respronsive as e speak?


Re: What is good voice suggestions Voices

molly the blind tech lover
 

I think it depends on what language you’re using.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Peter Beasley
Sent: Saturday, March 7, 2020 6:36 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] What is good voice suggestions Voices

 

I have only 3 one corevoices George, hazel and sue. I use George.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: molly the blind tech lover
Sent: 06 March 2020 21:27
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] What is good voice suggestions Voices

 

Mark’s cool. My favorite is Catherine.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Friday, March 6, 2020 4:02 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] What is good voice suggestions Voices

 

I like the one-core voices too. I'm using Microsoft Mark and he's very clear.

 

 

On 3/6/2020 12:59 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

I also love 1core. It's very responsive, and does not freeze up on me and I love extremely fast, perhaps maybe once every half second or so, and no lag at all, especially when I have to make quick choices. You won't be able to hear it as I am using VAC but trust me, it's responsive. Maybe a sound card issue perhaps?

Blessings and happy Friday.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.

to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on [twitch.](http://twitch.tv/ke7zum] Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 6 Mar 2020, at 12:22, Cecelia Rodriguez wrote:

I have tried that synthesizer but it freezes if you move too fast.

On Mar 6, 2020, at 2:55 PM, molly the blind tech lover brainardmolly@... wrote:

Hi.
You could try the windows OneCore . . .

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io nvda@nvda.groups.io On Behalf Of Cecelia
Rodriguez
Sent: Friday, March 6, 2020 2:14 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] What is good voice suggestions Voices

What are song Suggestions for voices that are as
respronsive as e speak?

 


Re: Change in CTRL+Backspace behavior in MS-Word, but not Notepad or Outlook

 

Hi,

Ha, found the root cause: this is Word issue, not NVDA. In short, Word announces this, which NVDA picks up. The short-term solution is to block all sorts of announcements like this from Word, with the ideal solution being blocking only some messages.

Technical: UIA notification event problem.

I’ll comment on a potential fix on a GitHub issue Quentin has created.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of konnieellis71@...
Sent: Friday, March 6, 2020 12:02 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Change in CTRL+Backspace behavior in MS-Word, but not Notepad or Outlook

 

Lately, when I hit the control+backspace keys to delete a word, NVDA does not announce the word I am deleting. Instead, it says “delete back word.”

I would much prefer that it says the word I am deleting, as it always has before.

I have also since tested this in Notepad, and in Outlook. Both of those are acting normally. They do not say “delete back word.”

If anyone can help me figure out how to set this back to normal in MS Word, please let me know. Thanks so much.

Konnie Ellis