Date   

Re: To Turn Fast Boot OFF so that the Windows Start Sound plays upon starting up from a shut down

 

Jeffrey,

           That's a good catch, and absolutely accurate.  Several questioners had indicated that they had already done this and couldn't understand why they weren't getting the start up sound, that's why I hadn't included that pivotal bit of information.

           The easiest way to get to this is Control Panel, Sounds.
--
Brian

I worry a lot. . . I worry that no matter how cynical you become it's never enough to keep up.

         ~ Trudy, in Jane Wagner's "Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe"

    



Re: Question About Portable Installation of NVDA

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Jean,


I placed the shortcut in the root of the USB drive and the only other thing on it was the folder containing NVDA system files. The issue was that I wasn't sure which drive was being recognized as the USB drive. I ran narrator (which I should have done before I made the post to this list) and found that out. Everything is good.

On 6/4/2016 8:51 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:
Hi


Which way are you trying to do it? is the shortcut on the desktop and
you have it pointing to your usb stick?


A while ago I put together a page for both the usb stick and CD version
of NVDA when you wanted to take it portable.


The CD version works fine as long as the autoplay part is enabled and
also under the run or install section.


The usb sitck can be started a few different ways depending if the
autoplay menu is on or not.


Any how there is tutorials on how to do this for windows 7 and windows
10 if you are interested.


They can be found on my nvda audio tutorials page at
http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20audio%20tutorials.html

When you get to it jump down by heading to the sections that refer to
the usb version and Cd version.


Where there is a windows log on screen I have not even gone there and do
not know if it can be done that way.


Gene nz



On 5/06/2016 8:59 AM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Group,


Well, I got my new old back up computer--a Windows 7 with 4 GB RAM and
a duel core processor.


I do not have speech on it. This was semi-deliberate. That is to say,
the seller wasn't familiar with that type of thing. I got the system
set up and it boots into Windows; no problem. I thought I'd be cool
and advanced and create a portable version of NVDA to gain audible
access to the system. I created it from the 2016.2 installer no
problem. I placed it on a USB drive and created a shortcut so that
when I heard the Windows sound on the new system for USB active, I
could just press the corresponding first letter to navigate to the
shortcut and press enter. It worked fine on my new main system. I
tried this on the new old system and for some reason, It doesn't
work. When I highlight the shortcut that i created which begins with
an exclamation point, and press enter, nothing happens. What could I
be doing wrong?


--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: Question About Portable Installation of NVDA

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi JOe,


I thought of that just after I sent the message. It was a drive letter issue. It's solved.

On 6/4/2016 5:13 PM, Joe Paton wrote:
Hi Ron,

Might this be a drive letter problem? Can you check with narrator?

Just some thoughts late at night in the uk.

Joe

On Sat, 4 Jun 2016 16:59:14 -0400
"Ron Canazzi" <aa2vm@roadrunner.com> wrote:

Hi Group,


Well, I got my new old back up computer--a Windows 7 with 4 GB RAM and a duel core processor.


I do not have speech on it. This was semi-deliberate. That is to say, the seller wasn't familiar with that type of thing. I got the system set up and it boots into Windows; no problem. I thought I'd be cool and advanced and create a portable version of NVDA to gain audible access to the system. I created it from the 2016.2 installer no problem. I placed it on a USB drive and created a shortcut so that when I heard the Windows sound on the new system for USB active, I could just press the corresponding first letter to navigate to the shortcut and press enter. It worked fine on my new main system. I tried this on the new old system and for some reason, It doesn't work. When I highlight the shortcut that i created which begins with an exclamation point, and press enter, nothing happens. What could I be doing wrong?



-- They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"







--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: Meet NVDA 2016.2, bringing spelling error beep, grammar error detection and more to your work, home and everything in between #NVAccess #release

Jolene Cardenas
 

Hello,

I had just downloaded and installed this version of NVDA a few days
ago and noticed that it still wouldn't let me save my current
configuration settings.

I'm aware that some of you have shared helpful tips on how I could do
this in the previous version, but I admit I had waited until this new
version came out before doing anything, and it still wouldn't let me
save the configurations.

Is there something else I could do besides something drastic like
uninstalling this current version of NVDA from my Windows 10-based
Asus laptop, deleting the Profile folder from my Users folder, and
then reinstalling it again?

Since I don't have a backup laptop or device of any kind to use in
case something goes wrong, I'm afraid of doing anything drastic.
Please help.

Thank you very much, and have a good day.

aloha,

Jolene.


Re: To Turn Fast Boot OFF so that the Windows Start Sound plays upon starting up from a shut down

Jeffrey Shockley
 

Hi,
I don’t know if this has been brought up already, but for this to work, you also have to go into Sounds in Control Panel or Settings, not sure what it’s called in Windows 10. But you have to go in there, find the “Sound Schemes”  tab or is it “themes?” I don’t remember exactly, but you have to find the “Play Windows Startup Sound” I think it is checkbox by using Tab and check it. Then, click OK.
Hope this helps,
Jeffrey

On Jun 4, 2016, at 4:26 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

        One disables Fast Start through Control Panel, Power Options dialog, "choose what the power button does" link.  Then, once on that page, there is a link at the top that says "Change Settings that are currently unavailable" which, once activated, makes the Checkbox for "Turn on Fast Start (recommended)" able to be unchecked (it's checked by default).
--
Brian

I worry a lot. . . I worry that no matter how cynical you become it's never enough to keep up.

         ~ Trudy, in Jane Wagner's "Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe"


    




Re: Question About Portable Installation of NVDA

Kenny Dog <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


Which way are you trying to do it? is the shortcut on the desktop and
you have it pointing to your usb stick?


A while ago I put together a page for both the usb stick and CD version
of NVDA when you wanted to take it portable.


The CD version works fine as long as the autoplay part is enabled and
also under the run or install section.


The usb sitck can be started a few different ways depending if the
autoplay menu is on or not.


Any how there is tutorials on how to do this for windows 7 and windows
10 if you are interested.


They can be found on my nvda audio tutorials page at
http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20audio%20tutorials.html

When you get to it jump down by heading to the sections that refer to
the usb version and Cd version.


Where there is a windows log on screen I have not even gone there and do
not know if it can be done that way.


Gene nz

On 5/06/2016 8:59 AM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Group,


Well, I got my new old back up computer--a Windows 7 with 4 GB RAM and
a duel core processor.


I do not have speech on it. This was semi-deliberate. That is to say,
the seller wasn't familiar with that type of thing. I got the system
set up and it boots into Windows; no problem. I thought I'd be cool
and advanced and create a portable version of NVDA to gain audible
access to the system. I created it from the 2016.2 installer no
problem. I placed it on a USB drive and created a shortcut so that
when I heard the Windows sound on the new system for USB active, I
could just press the corresponding first letter to navigate to the
shortcut and press enter. It worked fine on my new main system. I
tried this on the new old system and for some reason, It doesn't
work. When I highlight the shortcut that i created which begins with
an exclamation point, and press enter, nothing happens. What could I
be doing wrong?


--
Check out my website for nvda tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net


Re: nvda and win xp

Laughing Thunder
 

Hi,

It seems as though Microsoft has removed the relevant Windows XP update from their site, but I managed to track it down for you on archive.org. Here is the link. Please note, I am not able to test this file in any way. Please use it at your own risk.
Windows XP update for UIA

Hope that helps.


On 6/4/2016 5:00 PM, mattias wrote:
in nvda on xp

i allways get this message in the log

WARNING - core.main (23:54:03):
UIA not available
uia? something with accessibility?







Re: Question About Portable Installation of NVDA

Quentin Christensen
 

Re the drive letter issue, that is - say when you created the shortcut you only had the USB plugged in, but now you have a portable hard drive or your phone plugged in to the computer, they might appear to the computer first, so the USB you have NVDA on isn't exactly where it was (in Windows - you may not have ever moved it physically) so the shortcut won't work.

Particularly if that is the issue, you can install NVDA (full or portable) on your computer's hard drive and still not necessarily have it start automatically if you don't want to - NVDA only takes up about 85MB installed so should easily fit on any computer that can run it.

Also if you are using the portable version, make sure you are aware of the limitations with this way of running NVDA: http://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/documentation/userGuide.html?#toc10

Kind regards

Quentin.


On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 7:13 AM, Joe Paton <patonplace@...> wrote:
Hi Ron,

Might this be a drive letter problem?  Can you check with narrator?

Just some thoughts late at night in the uk.

Joe

On Sat, 4 Jun 2016 16:59:14 -0400
"Ron Canazzi" <aa2vm@...> wrote:

Hi Group,


Well, I got my new old back up computer--a Windows 7 with 4 GB RAM and a duel core processor.


I do not have speech on it. This was semi-deliberate.  That is to say, the seller wasn't familiar with that type of thing.  I got the system set up and it boots into Windows; no problem.  I thought I'd be cool and advanced and create a portable version of NVDA to gain audible access to the system.  I created it from the 2016.2 installer no problem.  I placed it on a USB drive and created a shortcut so that when I heard the Windows sound on the new system for USB active, I could just press the corresponding first letter to navigate to the shortcut and press enter.  It worked fine on my new main system.  I tried this on the new old system and for some reason, It doesn't work.  When I highlight the shortcut that i created which begins with an exclamation point, and press enter, nothing happens.  What could I be doing wrong?



-- They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"











--
Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer

Ph +61 7 3149 3306 
Direct: +61 413 904 383
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Re: nvda and win xp

Antony Stone
 

Given that Microsoft's extended support for XP ended more than 2 years ago
(and standard support ended in 2009) I doubt that downloads for it are still
available.

I quoted the Wikipedia page as an answer to your question about "what is UIA";
I have no idea where you might now get it from (and I don't use XP).


Antony.

On Sunday 05 June 2016 at 00:20:36, mattias wrote:

where to find it for xp?

Den 2016-06-05 kl. 00:14, skrev Antony Stone:
Yes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_UI_Automation

"UIA is available out of the box in Windows 7 as a part of Windows
Automation API 3.0 and as a separate download for Windows XP, Windows
Vista, and Windows Server 2003 and 2008."


Antony.

On Sunday 05 June 2016 at 00:00:00, mattias wrote:
in nvda on xp

i allways get this message in the log

WARNING - core.main (23:54:03):
UIA not available
uia? something with accessibility?
--
If the human brain were so simple that we could understand it,
we'd be so simple that we couldn't.

Please reply to the list;
please *don't* CC me.


Re: nvda and win xp

mattias
 

where to find it for xp?


Den 2016-06-05 kl. 00:14, skrev Antony Stone:

Yes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_UI_Automation

"UIA is available out of the box in Windows 7 as a part of Windows Automation
API 3.0 and as a separate download for Windows XP, Windows Vista, and Windows
Server 2003 and 2008."


Antony.

On Sunday 05 June 2016 at 00:00:00, mattias wrote:

in nvda on xp

i allways get this message in the log

WARNING - core.main (23:54:03):
UIA not available
uia? something with accessibility?


Re: nvda and win xp

Antony Stone
 

Yes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_UI_Automation

"UIA is available out of the box in Windows 7 as a part of Windows Automation
API 3.0 and as a separate download for Windows XP, Windows Vista, and Windows
Server 2003 and 2008."


Antony.

On Sunday 05 June 2016 at 00:00:00, mattias wrote:

in nvda on xp

i allways get this message in the log

WARNING - core.main (23:54:03):
UIA not available
uia? something with accessibility?
--
In the Beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

- Terry Pratchett

Please reply to the list;
please *don't* CC me.


nvda and win xp

mattias
 

in nvda on xp

i allways get this message in the log

WARNING - core.main (23:54:03):
UIA not available
uia? something with accessibility?


Re: nvda and win 10

Roger Stewart
 

Yes, I remember there was something and I listened to the NV Access podcast from last year and found it!  All good now!

:-)

Thanks.

Roger









On 6/4/2016 4:06 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi,

Try:

1.       Open General settings.

2.       Uncheck “Automatically start NVDA after I log on to Windows” and “Use NVDA on the Windows logon screen (requires administrator privileges)” checkboxes, press ENTER, and answer “yes” when prompted.

3.       Repeat step 2, but check the boxes.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Roger Stewart
Sent: Saturday, June 4, 2016 2:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda and win 10

 

Ever since nvda 20015-4 I think that's when it happened, nvda is supposed to show up in Ease Of Access Center.  It does show up there in my laptop running Win 10.

Roger








On 6/4/2016 3:54 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:

Roger,

           Not that this helps much, but it is another data point.  I have NVDA, JAWS, and Window Eyes all installed on my Win10 Home 64-bit laptop and none of them have ever had anything appear related to them in the Windows Ease of Access Center.  I'm interested to learn that they ever did, since I always thought the Ease of Access Center's sole purpose was to control the accessibility features shipped as a part of the Windows OS, not to deal with any third party software.
--
Brian

I worry a lot. . . I worry that no matter how cynical you become it's never enough to keep up.

         ~ Trudy, in Jane Wagner's "Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe"

    

 

 



Re: NVDA and Chrome 51

David Moore
 

You are very welcome. Take care.

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Paton
Sent: Saturday, June 4, 2016 4:23 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Chrome 51

thanks for your observations david.


Joe
On Sat, 4 Jun 2016 16:21:21 -0400
"David Moore" <jesusloves1966@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,
Different web sites work better on different browsers. With Chrome, Facebook does not work that well with a screen reader. Now Chrome does work great if you want to stream media or play videos. For Facebook, IE still works the best and Firefox works well if you want to do a lot of filling out forms. All three browsers are good for different things. I would not try using Google Chrome for everything. Just for searching and streaming media, watching news playing pod casts, playing a movie, and stuff like that with Google Chrome. Take care, and I hope this helps a little bit.


From: Jeremy
Sent: Saturday, June 4, 2016 2:01 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Chrome 51

Not completely sure, but I'd guess it to be more of an issue in google's side of things. It's not the first time I've seen this and similar problems with chrome and herd of others seeing the same. I've always herd it mentioned that it's do to google not necessarily following all the standards for accessibility, but I don't know much about that.
Hope this helps.
Tc.


On 6/4/2016 5:11 AM, Supanut Leepaisomboon wrote:

Hi,

When I tried NVDA (latest version) with Chrome 51, NVDA still doesn't read the character that I've deleted in a number of text boxes, specifically the Facebook status composing box and I think this applies to all textareas.

Is this a NVDA bug or a Chrome bug?


Re: nvda and win 10

Chris
 

I've never seen nvda in eoa



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Roger Stewart
Sent: 04 June 2016 22:00
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda and win 10

Ever since nvda 20015-4 I think that's when it happened, nvda is supposed to show up in Ease Of Access Center.  It does show up there in my laptop running Win 10.

Roger








On 6/4/2016 3:54 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:

Roger,

           Not that this helps much, but it is another data point.  I have NVDA, JAWS, and Window Eyes all installed on my Win10 Home 64-bit laptop and none of them have ever had anything appear related to them in the Windows Ease of Access Center.  I'm interested to learn that they ever did, since I always thought the Ease of Access Center's sole purpose was to control the accessibility features shipped as a part of the Windows OS, not to deal with any third party software.
--
Brian

I worry a lot. . . I worry that no matter how cynical you become it's never enough to keep up.

         ~ Trudy, in Jane Wagner's "Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe"

    




Re: Question About Portable Installation of NVDA

Joe Paton
 

Hi Ron,

Might this be a drive letter problem? Can you check with narrator?

Just some thoughts late at night in the uk.

Joe

On Sat, 4 Jun 2016 16:59:14 -0400
"Ron Canazzi" <aa2vm@roadrunner.com> wrote:

Hi Group,


Well, I got my new old back up computer--a Windows 7 with 4 GB RAM and a duel core processor.


I do not have speech on it. This was semi-deliberate. That is to say, the seller wasn't familiar with that type of thing. I got the system set up and it boots into Windows; no problem. I thought I'd be cool and advanced and create a portable version of NVDA to gain audible access to the system. I created it from the 2016.2 installer no problem. I placed it on a USB drive and created a shortcut so that when I heard the Windows sound on the new system for USB active, I could just press the corresponding first letter to navigate to the shortcut and press enter. It worked fine on my new main system. I tried this on the new old system and for some reason, It doesn't work. When I highlight the shortcut that i created which begins with an exclamation point, and press enter, nothing happens. What could I be doing wrong?



-- They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: nvda and win 10

 

Hi,

Try:

1.       Open General settings.

2.       Uncheck “Automatically start NVDA after I log on to Windows” and “Use NVDA on the Windows logon screen (requires administrator privileges)” checkboxes, press ENTER, and answer “yes” when prompted.

3.       Repeat step 2, but check the boxes.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Roger Stewart
Sent: Saturday, June 4, 2016 2:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda and win 10

 

Ever since nvda 20015-4 I think that's when it happened, nvda is supposed to show up in Ease Of Access Center.  It does show up there in my laptop running Win 10.

Roger








On 6/4/2016 3:54 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:

Roger,

           Not that this helps much, but it is another data point.  I have NVDA, JAWS, and Window Eyes all installed on my Win10 Home 64-bit laptop and none of them have ever had anything appear related to them in the Windows Ease of Access Center.  I'm interested to learn that they ever did, since I always thought the Ease of Access Center's sole purpose was to control the accessibility features shipped as a part of the Windows OS, not to deal with any third party software.
--
Brian

I worry a lot. . . I worry that no matter how cynical you become it's never enough to keep up.

         ~ Trudy, in Jane Wagner's "Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe"

    

 

 


Re: nvda and win 10

Roger Stewart
 

Ever since nvda 20015-4 I think that's when it happened, nvda is supposed to show up in Ease Of Access Center.  It does show up there in my laptop running Win 10.

Roger








On 6/4/2016 3:54 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:

Roger,

           Not that this helps much, but it is another data point.  I have NVDA, JAWS, and Window Eyes all installed on my Win10 Home 64-bit laptop and none of them have ever had anything appear related to them in the Windows Ease of Access Center.  I'm interested to learn that they ever did, since I always thought the Ease of Access Center's sole purpose was to control the accessibility features shipped as a part of the Windows OS, not to deal with any third party software.
--
Brian

I worry a lot. . . I worry that no matter how cynical you become it's never enough to keep up.

         ~ Trudy, in Jane Wagner's "Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe"

    




Question About Portable Installation of NVDA

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Group,


Well, I got my new old back up computer--a Windows 7 with 4 GB RAM and a duel core processor.


I do not have speech on it. This was semi-deliberate. That is to say, the seller wasn't familiar with that type of thing. I got the system set up and it boots into Windows; no problem. I thought I'd be cool and advanced and create a portable version of NVDA to gain audible access to the system. I created it from the 2016.2 installer no problem. I placed it on a USB drive and created a shortcut so that when I heard the Windows sound on the new system for USB active, I could just press the corresponding first letter to navigate to the shortcut and press enter. It worked fine on my new main system. I tried this on the new old system and for some reason, It doesn't work. When I highlight the shortcut that i created which begins with an exclamation point, and press enter, nothing happens. What could I be doing wrong?



--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: nvda and win 10

Roger Stewart
 

Well, the nvda icon is still on the desktop and in the volume control and in the system tray so all seems good.

On 6/4/2016 3:55 PM, David Moore wrote:
Hi roger,
I would try installing NVDA again on your desktop. Actually, any screen reader should be uninstalled and then reinstalled after up grading to win10. NVDA should show up in your notification area with your volume and those icons. You should also have a NVDA icon on your desktop. Take care.


-----Original Message----- From: Roger Stewart
Sent: Saturday, June 4, 2016 4:50 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] nvda and win 10

My desktop was just forced to upgrade to Win 10. This seems to have
worked just fine. However, nvda isn't showing up at all in Ease Of
Access Center as it is on my laptop with Win 10. Can anyone help?


Thanks.


Roger







.