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Re: embedded object in Firefox

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Its flakey in XP, my feeling is that its more processor intensive and often sounds glitchy on xp. Could be codecs of course, and as you say it could be that few codecs now supprort xp for the format html5 for whatever reason. Having said that the later xp codecs actually seem better for flash if its a fast machine, so who knows.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@ripco.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 9:11 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] embedded object in Firefox


Disabling the Flash player may or may not solve the problem. If HTML5 is available from the site, the HTML5 code is usually accessible and will likely allow you to play the audio if the Flash player being used is inaccessible. But just disabling Flash may keep you from listening to audio you want to hear. It depends on whether the site in question supports HTML5 at this time. Many sites do and many don't. I expect there is a way to make HTML the default choice which would allow the site to give you Flash content if necessary. If this option is available, it would be a browser setting or would be made available in a plugin. I don't know enough to comment further. And it should be pointed out that I've tested with two XP machines and HTML audio doesn't play properly even though it's supposed to. It appears that HTML5 isn't properly compatible with XP, at least not at this time and it might never be. I have tested with both Chrome and Firefox with bad results.

Gene
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From: Pete
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 2:03 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] embedded object in Firefox



I disabled adobe flash player for this vary reason,
I get warnings about flash player being disabled but the audio still
plays,
not sure what is actually playing the audio,
using fire fox 46.0 win 7 64 pro nvda latest.
Pete


On 5/7/2016 10:06 AM, Cearbhall O'Meadhra wrote:
Hi,

I found a problem in Firefox when attempting to listen to a sample of an
audio book in the BorrowBox library system. I don't know if this is an NVDA
problem or exclusively a Firefox Flash Player issue. or if Bolinda need to
do something with their Java script. I should mention that the sighted user
has no problem playing the audio sample using a mouse.

I am using Windows 10,, NVDA 2016.1 and Firefox46.1 on a desktop PC.

If List members would like to see the problem for themselves I recommend the
following url:
https://fe.bolindadigital.com/wldcs_bol_fo/b2i/productOverview.html?b2bSite=
4834&browseItemId=366096&fromPage=1
It is not necessary to sign in to sample the reading of a title.

Here is a typical audio book display:

--Start of clip -----------------------
link graphic Railway Viaduct
embedded object unavailable (this should say "Preview" but doesn't!)
Link Reserve
On Loan, Available on 22/05/16
Link Railway Viaduct
Link Edward Marston
Read by Sam Dastor
Crime & Thriller, Historical Fiction
eAudiobook - Unabridged
---end of clip ------------------

The player for the audio sample is activated by an "embedded object" that is
flagged by NVDA as "not being available". The BorrowBox help page advises
that Adobe flash must be active to enable audio sampling of each title. I
have Adobe flash installed and active. For example, I can play any song in
YouTube in Firefox without any problem.

After many weeks of failing to play the preview, I found the following
workaround using NVDA:

From the top of the web page select eAudio if not already selected. Then
press "g" to find a book title. If the next object after pressing
down-arrow once is "embedded Object" then you have an audio book and we can
start.

Here is the full sequence of steps:
1. Press G for the graphic of the book title;
2. Press down-arrow once to the embedded object. You should hear "Embedded
Object not available";
3. Press NVDA + numpad Enter to activate the embedded object. You should
hear "Embedded Object Unavailable Activate";
4. Press right arrow once. You should hear ""Space";
5. Press the space bar to start and stop the sample audio of the narrator
speaking.

If pressing the space bar does not act as a toggle and the enter key does
not do the job either:
6. Press right arrow once;
7. Press space bar or main keyboard enter to play and stop playing the audio
sample.

Can anyone advise what to do about this?
A. Is it an NVDA problem?
B. Is it a Firefox problem?
c. Is it a BorrowBox problem for the developer Bolinda to see to?


All the best,

Cearbhall

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@blbc.ie








Re: embedded object in Firefox

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Html 5 perhaps?
Until version 21 and 22 betas of Flash, Firefox has had weird now you see it now you dont crash issues with Flash.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Pete" <emac00@cogeco.ca>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 8:03 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] embedded object in Firefox



I disabled adobe flash player for this vary reason,
I get warnings about flash player being disabled but the audio still plays,
not sure what is actually playing the audio,
using fire fox 46.0 win 7 64 pro nvda latest.
Pete


On 5/7/2016 10:06 AM, Cearbhall O'Meadhra wrote:
Hi,

I found a problem in Firefox when attempting to listen to a sample of an
audio book in the BorrowBox library system. I don't know if this is an NVDA
problem or exclusively a Firefox Flash Player issue. or if Bolinda need to
do something with their Java script. I should mention that the sighted user
has no problem playing the audio sample using a mouse.

I am using Windows 10,, NVDA 2016.1 and Firefox46.1 on a desktop PC.

If List members would like to see the problem for themselves I recommend the
following url:
https://fe.bolindadigital.com/wldcs_bol_fo/b2i/productOverview.html?b2bSite=
4834&browseItemId=366096&fromPage=1
It is not necessary to sign in to sample the reading of a title.

Here is a typical audio book display:

--Start of clip -----------------------
link graphic Railway Viaduct
embedded object unavailable (this should say "Preview" but doesn't!)
Link Reserve
On Loan, Available on 22/05/16
Link Railway Viaduct
Link Edward Marston
Read by Sam Dastor
Crime & Thriller, Historical Fiction
eAudiobook - Unabridged
---end of clip ------------------

The player for the audio sample is activated by an "embedded object" that is
flagged by NVDA as "not being available". The BorrowBox help page advises
that Adobe flash must be active to enable audio sampling of each title. I
have Adobe flash installed and active. For example, I can play any song in
YouTube in Firefox without any problem.

After many weeks of failing to play the preview, I found the following
workaround using NVDA:

From the top of the web page select eAudio if not already selected. Then
press "g" to find a book title. If the next object after pressing
down-arrow once is "embedded Object" then you have an audio book and we can
start.

Here is the full sequence of steps:
1. Press G for the graphic of the book title;
2. Press down-arrow once to the embedded object. You should hear "Embedded
Object not available";
3. Press NVDA + numpad Enter to activate the embedded object. You should
hear "Embedded Object Unavailable Activate";
4. Press right arrow once. You should hear ""Space";
5. Press the space bar to start and stop the sample audio of the narrator
speaking.

If pressing the space bar does not act as a toggle and the enter key does
not do the job either:
6. Press right arrow once;
7. Press space bar or main keyboard enter to play and stop playing the audio
sample.

Can anyone advise what to do about this?
A. Is it an NVDA problem?
B. Is it a Firefox problem?
c. Is it a BorrowBox problem for the developer Bolinda to see to?


All the best,

Cearbhall

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@blbc.ie








Re: Something strange in Firefox

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Just to clarify. The address bar is displayed when this problem occurs. Everything seems to be as it used to be, but when you paste or type in something it ignores it and goes back as it was before or complains the page cannot be found. Its not all the time, but enough to be irritating and with the other foibles of 47, I decided that my life was easier with an earlier version, so I over the top installed 46 and the problems including the no sound issue went away. I then stopped updates.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@ripco.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 3:01 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Something strange in Firefox


F6 is one way but it won't help if the address bar is not being displayed. There is more than one way to move to the address bar. I know three.

Gene
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From: Chris
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 8:23 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Something strange in Firefox


its F6




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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 13 May 2016 12:20
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Something strange in Firefox


Try alt l to move to the address bar. Also, look in the view menu and if necessary the appropriate submenu to see which tool bars are enabled.

Gene
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From: Arnþór Helgason
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 5:26 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Something strange in Firefox


Good morning from sunny Iceland.

After the most recent updates I have found it impossible to copy the url
of a homepage when I want to include the relevant address in a new document.

Previously I used the command alt+d, but it doesn't work anymore in
Firefox. However Internet Explorer and GoogleChrome still have this command.


Any advice?


Best regards,

Arnthor Helgason

Phone: +354 8973766


Re: Fly Outs?

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I've not seen this. In the system tray of windows 7, if one lingers too long on the network item, a page or window opens with complete blankness to nvda. It appears to be some Intel tool which is not accessible. I turned off the tray icon to stop this. Instead Iuse the normal windows parts of control panel which do work.
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From: "Rob" <captinlogic@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Fly Outs?


Ron Canazzi <aa2vm@roadrunner.com> wrote:
I don't know if the fly out
reference occurs any other times, but this is where i get it in Window 8.1.
I've seen it in Windows 7 too; in the network connections thing. If you arrow over the network icon in the system tray, you get a network flyout.


Re: Fly Outs?

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I'll have to investigate further. In my case I still have not worked out what is causing it, and I suppose it could be classic shell which is doing it.
I can access the choose file type bit of the control panel OK so I'd have thought having some other construct to do the same job was a bit of a pointless thing.
Brian

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Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 12:34 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Fly Outs?


Hi Group,


When I click on a file type that Windows doesn't recognize, I get this
fly out business. It asks me what program I want to use and gives me a
somewhat inaccessible GUI type interface. By routing around with the
review type cursor, you can make choices. I don't know if the fly out
reference occurs any other times, but this is where i get it in Window 8.1.



On 5/13/2016 7:16 AM, Gene wrote:
Flyout is a term long before Windows 10. I don't recall technically what a flyout is but I've seen the term network flyout when I issue an incompatible command to open the connection manager in the System Tray. I don't know if the term is used in other ways.

Gene
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Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 3:58 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Fly Outs?


so I've never come across these before.seems to be just in windows 10. What
are they and how does one interact with them exactly?

Brian

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Re: Something strange in Firefox

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I use F6 myself, but in 47 it only worked sometimes, ie the paste seemed to work, but it still remembered the old address instead.
I'd forgotten about this till you mentioned the other key combination, so this is yet another strange thing in 47 then. I have since tried to figure out what is different and it looks to me that the new version is supposedly optimised for multi core systems, and maybe, just maybe, this use of cores has broken some features that have to happen before others do, meaning old data is preserved under certain conditions. It would explain the sound issue and the intermittent page finding and address amnesia if these things do not get passed back and forth in the correct sequence.

Brian just pondering.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Mendoza" <lowvisiontek@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 11:37 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Something strange in Firefox


Firefox has the same command key that you've used with other browsers.
Yes, it was correct combination keys that you've used. But,
alternatively, you may used to press F6 instead and copy the address
that you wants but before, pasting it to the address bar make sure
you've check as well if you copied the direct URL address by reviewing
and pressing the nvda plus C from your clipboard. In this way, you can
ensure that you copied correctly the address before pasting it

Robert Mendoza

On 5/13/2016 6:26 PM, Arnþór Helgason wrote:
Good morning from sunny Iceland.

After the most recent updates I have found it impossible to copy the
url of a homepage when I want to include the relevant address in a new
document.

Previously I used the command alt+d, but it doesn't work anymore in
Firefox. However Internet Explorer and GoogleChrome still have this
command.


Any advice?


Best regards,

Arnthor Helgason

Phone: +354 8973766





Re: Something strange in Firefox

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Is this 47 again. I had to reinstall 46 a couple of weeks ago and turn off updates as for a staart it was much slower on single core systems and some add ons stopped working correctly, such as navigational sounds
I think this new version has some serious bugs to be ironed out, myself, as it also kept failing to go the pages the first time it was told complaining it was not foundd.
Obviviously I no longer have it, so cannot comment if this is yet another issue, but I've had no problems since going back.
Brian

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From: "Arnþór Helgason" <arnthor.helgason@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 11:26 AM
Subject: [nvda] Something strange in Firefox


Good morning from sunny Iceland.

After the most recent updates I have found it impossible to copy the url of a homepage when I want to include the relevant address in a new document.

Previously I used the command alt+d, but it doesn't work anymore in Firefox. However Internet Explorer and GoogleChrome still have this command.


Any advice?


Best regards,

Arnthor Helgason

Phone: +354 8973766




For those on Freelists list...

 

Hi,

For those subscribed to the now deprecated Freelists version of this group: you’ll get an email saying you have been unsubscribed from the NVDA list on freelists. Don’t worry- you can ignore that message, as you’ve switched channels.

Thanks.

Cheers,

Joseph


[NVDA] Kindle App

Chris Shook <chris0309@...>
 

Joseph,
Will the Kindle app work with NVDA? If so, do you need to use specific commands to operate it?
Thanks
Chris


Re: need a free and accessible file converter which can convert wma or webm files to mp3

Pete <emac00@...>
 

 
  here is the link 
P audio extractor 
  I can't remember how to spell pazera 

On 5/8/2016 5:31 AM, David Moore wrote:
It used to be recommended a lot, and I was able to install it Okay, but from what you say, Brian, that is nothing to mess around with. Mark, you better not mess with it. I would not want someone's computer messed up, because of something I recommended. Let us find another choice. There are a few free file converters out there. I will do some research for others that are accessible.
Thanks a lot, Brian.


-----Original Message----- From: Brian's Mail list account
Sent: Sunday, May 8, 2016 5:19 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] need a free and accessible file converter which can convert wma or webm files to mp3

A word of warning about this download. it has embedded in its installer, Ad
Aware which it seems to install no matter what you tell it at install time.
then when you make a selection in the main screen, it has changed the
browser to use an AVG piece of software presumably to keep you safe but
which  wants to flog you avg stuff all the time.
I had to uninstall both of these to get my home page back and then the next
time I ran the conversion software it tried to install it again.
Now I do not mind suggestions from software, and some of them have been
good, but i dislike this you will have this no matter what approach, so I've
reluctantly removed the convertor. As mentioned there could be ways around
this I'm  not aware of, but the nocandy switch installed from the command
line seemed to do nothing in this case.
Just be warned.
Not all of these add ins are welcome or indeed accessible. I'm sure the
intentions were good , but maybe not for a blind user.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Brett" <markbrett@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2016 9:37 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] need a free and accessible file converter which can
convert wma or webm files to mp3


Hi, I am having trouble downloading some files on the internet for some
reason at the moment are you able to get the exe file to me using dropbox or
sendspace?

Many thanks

Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: David Moore [mailto:jesusloves1966@...]
Sent: 04 May 2016 10:15
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] need a free and accessible file converter which can
convert wma or webm files to mp3

Hi,
Did you download it from the web site I gave you? I just downloaded it to
make sure that I had the latest copy and it installed fine. Make sure you
have the custom install radio button checked on two different pages. I am
going to look on ninite.com to see if it is available for download on there
and let you know. It is so easy to use and so powerful, that I really want
you to get this. Take care and talk in a minute.


-----Original Message-----
From: Shweta Mishra
Sent: Wednesday, May 4, 2016 3:46 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] need a free and accessible file converter which can
convert wma or webm files to mp3

hi david and all!
I've downloaded freeree make video converter successfully, but it's not
installing on my laptop.
I'm getting error that is, "setup files are corrupted please retain fresh
copy".I've downloaded the same software  2 3 times, but same error.
could you please tell me why is it happening? and what should I do now?

On 5/4/16, Shweta Mishra <shweta.mishra668@...> wrote:
thanks david!I've downloaded free make video converter.
could you please tell me the steps to use it?


On 5/4/16, David Moore <jesusloves1966@...> wrote:
Hi, You want free make video converter.
If you want to convert a file into different formats. Free Make video
converter is your ticket. It is free and very accessible.
www.freemake.com/free_video_converter Cached Similar Freemake Video
Converter converts video between 500+ formats and gadgets free!
Convert to MP4, MP3, AVI, MKV, iPhone, Android. ... Freemake Video
Converter supports all popular and rare formats: MP4, AVI, MKV, WMV,
MP3, DVD, 3GP, SWF, FLV, HD, MOV, RM, QT, Divx, Xvid, TS, MTS, Fraps .
Also, There is a website where you can upload your file and have it
converted into many different formats:
www.convertfiles.com
There are two great options for you. Free make is very powerful, and
the convertfiles web site is good as well. I wish you the best.


-----Original Message-----
From: Shweta Mishra
Sent: Wednesday, May 4, 2016 1:36 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] need a free and accessible file converter which can
convert

wma or webm files to mp3

hi friends!
hope all are fine.
as the subject line says, I need a free and accessible file converter
which can convert wma or webm files to mp3.
I'm using windows 7 64 bit asus laptop with NVDA.
any help will be appreciated.
thanks in advance!

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Re: an add-on for visual studio is under development testing and feedback

Jacob Kruger
 

Primary issue come across - at times, and not sure why/when, etc. is that, for example, when fired up VS.Net 2015 community now, it seems to get stuck on something unresponsive - can read whole window, but, can't really get it to do much, and if switch to screen review mode, it just tells me top-bottom, etc.

But, when then closed it, and fired it up again, it's now cooperating.

Other minor issue is that menu items with sub-menu's don't tell you about that - file menu, just reads new, until you use the right arrow key to open that sub-menu.

The new project dialogue now seems to be cooperating, so maybe this is all related to same way main part of interface seems to be unresponsive at times - maybe there's some form of a notification shade hovering in front of rest of it, or something.

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, acceptance is versatile"

----- Original Message -----
From: "mohammad suliman" <mohmad.s93@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: 13 May, 2016 7:21 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] an add-on for visual studio is under development testing and feedback


hello Jacob,
not an expert in this area, but think it doesn't, because, addons can be executed without installing python at the system at all.
regarding the new project dialog, haven't played with that, if issues have been fixed somehow, great. if not, what are the problems there.
please let me know if you have other suggestions.
thanks,
Mohammad
On 5/13/2016 9:21 AM, Jacob Kruger wrote:
Will play around with it, and, it does already seem to improve things like intellisense, new project dialogue, etc.

Would it make a difference that the two versions of python have installed on this machine are 3.4 and 3.5.1?

Shouldn't, but, FWIW, think current version of system environment variable %path% points to 3.5.1, but anyway.

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, acceptance is versatile"

----- Original Message ----- From: "mohammad suliman" <mohmad.s93@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: 13 May, 2016 2:00 AM
Subject: [nvda] an add-on for visual studio is under development testing and feedback


hello all,
I am currently developing an add-on for visual studio to resolve accessibility issues in some parts of the IDE's UI.
for all who might be interested, I want to know which parts of the UI do you find problematic and need further enhancements?? especially, if someone has used VS with jaws and he/she knows in which areas NVDA needs enhancements it will be great to hear from him /her.
here is the link for the git repo of the add-on
https://github.com/mohammad-suliman/visualStudioAddon
you can find info there of what I have done so far.
i fixed the problem of NVDA not reading the content of the debug windows. and made some improvements to intelliSinse. more info on the github page.
to test the add-on, you can clone the repo and build the add-on if you are familiar with add-on development. if not you can get only the file addon/appModules/devenv.py and put it in side your app module of NVDA user directory. if you need more info, just let me know.
I also can put the file on dropbox and share a link to it if that helps.
your feedback and help is so appreciated.
a question for code reviewers on the NVDA add-ons list, do you think that it is a good time to review the add-on now? if you think so, please feel free to do that.
I of course will be delighted to hear your tips, but I don't want you to do the review several times. the code still in the alpha cycle.
thanks,
Mohammad









Re: embedded object in Firefox

Gene
 

Disabling the Flash player may or may not solve the problem.  If HTML5 is available from the site, the HTML5 code is usually accessible and will likely allow you to play the audio if the Flash player being used is inaccessible.  But just disabling Flash may keep you from listening to audio you want to hear.  It depends on whether the site in question supports HTML5 at this time.  Many sites do and many don't.  I expect there is a way to make HTML the default choice which would allow the site to give you Flash content if necessary.  If this option is available, it would be a browser setting or would be made available in a plugin.  I don't know enough to comment further.  And it should be pointed out that I've tested with two XP machines and HTML audio doesn't play properly even though it's supposed to.  It appears that HTML5 isn't properly compatible with XP, at least not at this time and it might never be.  I have tested with both Chrome and Firefox with bad results.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Pete
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 2:03 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] embedded object in Firefox


   I disabled adobe flash player for this vary reason,
   I get warnings about flash player being disabled but the audio still
plays,
   not sure what is actually playing the audio,
   using fire fox 46.0 win 7 64 pro nvda latest.
   Pete


On 5/7/2016 10:06 AM, Cearbhall O'Meadhra wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I found a problem in Firefox when attempting to listen to a sample of an
> audio book in the BorrowBox library system. I don't know if this is an NVDA
> problem or exclusively a Firefox Flash Player issue. or if Bolinda need to
> do something with their Java script. I should mention that the sighted user
> has no problem playing the audio sample using a mouse.
>
> I am using Windows 10,, NVDA 2016.1 and Firefox46.1 on a desktop PC.
>
> If List members would like to see the problem for themselves I recommend the
> following url:
> https://fe.bolindadigital.com/wldcs_bol_fo/b2i/productOverview.html?b2bSite=
> 4834&browseItemId=366096&fromPage=1
> It is not necessary to sign in to sample the reading of a title.
>
> Here is a typical audio book display:
>
> --Start of clip -----------------------
> link graphic Railway Viaduct
> embedded object unavailable (this should say "Preview" but doesn't!)
> Link Reserve
> On Loan, Available on 22/05/16
> Link Railway Viaduct
> Link Edward Marston
> Read by Sam Dastor
> Crime & Thriller, Historical Fiction
> eAudiobook - Unabridged
> ---end of clip ------------------
>
> The player for the audio sample is activated by an "embedded object" that is
> flagged by NVDA as "not being available". The BorrowBox help page advises
> that Adobe flash must be active to enable audio sampling of each title. I
> have Adobe flash installed and active. For example, I can play any song in
> YouTube in Firefox without any problem.
>
> After many weeks of failing to play the preview, I found the following
> workaround using NVDA:
>
> >From the top of the web page select eAudio if not already selected. Then
> press "g" to find a book title. If the next   object after pressing
> down-arrow once is "embedded Object" then you have an audio book and we can
> start.
>
> Here is the full sequence of steps:
> 1. Press G for the graphic of the book title;
> 2. Press down-arrow once to the embedded object. You should hear "Embedded
> Object not available";
> 3. Press NVDA + numpad Enter to activate the embedded object. You should
> hear "Embedded Object Unavailable Activate";
> 4. Press right arrow once. You should hear ""Space";
> 5. Press the space bar  to start and stop the sample audio of the narrator
> speaking.
>
> If pressing the space bar does not act as a toggle and the enter key does
> not do the job either:
> 6. Press right arrow once;
> 7. Press space bar or main keyboard enter to play and stop playing the audio
> sample.
>
> Can anyone advise what to do about this?
> A. Is it an NVDA problem?
> B. Is it a Firefox problem?
> c. Is it a BorrowBox problem for the developer Bolinda to see to?
>
>
> All the best,
>
> Cearbhall
>
> m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>




Re: Something strange in Firefox

Kenny Dog <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi CTRL + L will do the trick

Gene nz

On 13-May-16 10:26 PM, Arnþór Helgason wrote:
Good morning from sunny Iceland.

After the most recent updates I have found it impossible to copy the
url of a homepage when I want to include the relevant address in a new
document.

Previously I used the command alt+d, but it doesn't work anymore in
Firefox. However Internet Explorer and GoogleChrome still have this
command.


Any advice?


Best regards,

Arnthor Helgason

Phone: +354 8973766




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Re: need a free and accessible file converter which can convert wma or webm files to mp3

Pete <emac00@...>
 

Hi
I use Pazera Free Audio Extractor version 1.4 seems to work the best.
It comes as a zip file.
Let me know if you want it, I can send space it.
Pete

On 5/8/2016 5:31 AM, David Moore wrote:
It used to be recommended a lot, and I was able to install it Okay, but from what you say, Brian, that is nothing to mess around with. Mark, you better not mess with it. I would not want someone's computer messed up, because of something I recommended. Let us find another choice. There are a few free file converters out there. I will do some research for others that are accessible.
Thanks a lot, Brian.


-----Original Message----- From: Brian's Mail list account
Sent: Sunday, May 8, 2016 5:19 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] need a free and accessible file converter which can convert wma or webm files to mp3

A word of warning about this download. it has embedded in its installer, Ad
Aware which it seems to install no matter what you tell it at install time.
then when you make a selection in the main screen, it has changed the
browser to use an AVG piece of software presumably to keep you safe but
which wants to flog you avg stuff all the time.
I had to uninstall both of these to get my home page back and then the next
time I ran the conversion software it tried to install it again.
Now I do not mind suggestions from software, and some of them have been
good, but i dislike this you will have this no matter what approach, so I've
reluctantly removed the convertor. As mentioned there could be ways around
this I'm not aware of, but the nocandy switch installed from the command
line seemed to do nothing in this case.
Just be warned.
Not all of these add ins are welcome or indeed accessible. I'm sure the
intentions were good , but maybe not for a blind user.
Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
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briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Brett" <markbrett@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2016 9:37 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] need a free and accessible file converter which can
convert wma or webm files to mp3


Hi, I am having trouble downloading some files on the internet for some
reason at the moment are you able to get the exe file to me using dropbox or
sendspace?

Many thanks

Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: David Moore [mailto:jesusloves1966@gmail.com]
Sent: 04 May 2016 10:15
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] need a free and accessible file converter which can
convert wma or webm files to mp3

Hi,
Did you download it from the web site I gave you? I just downloaded it to
make sure that I had the latest copy and it installed fine. Make sure you
have the custom install radio button checked on two different pages. I am
going to look on ninite.com to see if it is available for download on there
and let you know. It is so easy to use and so powerful, that I really want
you to get this. Take care and talk in a minute.


-----Original Message-----
From: Shweta Mishra
Sent: Wednesday, May 4, 2016 3:46 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] need a free and accessible file converter which can
convert wma or webm files to mp3

hi david and all!
I've downloaded freeree make video converter successfully, but it's not
installing on my laptop.
I'm getting error that is, "setup files are corrupted please retain fresh
copy".I've downloaded the same software 2 3 times, but same error.
could you please tell me why is it happening? and what should I do now?

On 5/4/16, Shweta Mishra <shweta.mishra668@gmail.com> wrote:
thanks david!I've downloaded free make video converter.
could you please tell me the steps to use it?


On 5/4/16, David Moore <jesusloves1966@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, You want free make video converter.
If you want to convert a file into different formats. Free Make video
converter is your ticket. It is free and very accessible.
www.freemake.com/free_video_converter Cached Similar Freemake Video
Converter converts video between 500+ formats and gadgets free!
Convert to MP4, MP3, AVI, MKV, iPhone, Android. ... Freemake Video
Converter supports all popular and rare formats: MP4, AVI, MKV, WMV,
MP3, DVD, 3GP, SWF, FLV, HD, MOV, RM, QT, Divx, Xvid, TS, MTS, Fraps .
Also, There is a website where you can upload your file and have it
converted into many different formats:
www.convertfiles.com
There are two great options for you. Free make is very powerful, and
the convertfiles web site is good as well. I wish you the best.


-----Original Message-----
From: Shweta Mishra
Sent: Wednesday, May 4, 2016 1:36 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] need a free and accessible file converter which can
convert

wma or webm files to mp3

hi friends!
hope all are fine.
as the subject line says, I need a free and accessible file converter
which can convert wma or webm files to mp3.
I'm using windows 7 64 bit asus laptop with NVDA.
any help will be appreciated.
thanks in advance!

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Re: embedded object in Firefox

Pete <emac00@...>
 

I disabled adobe flash player for this vary reason,
I get warnings about flash player being disabled but the audio still plays,
not sure what is actually playing the audio,
using fire fox 46.0 win 7 64 pro nvda latest.
Pete

On 5/7/2016 10:06 AM, Cearbhall O'Meadhra wrote:
Hi,

I found a problem in Firefox when attempting to listen to a sample of an
audio book in the BorrowBox library system. I don't know if this is an NVDA
problem or exclusively a Firefox Flash Player issue. or if Bolinda need to
do something with their Java script. I should mention that the sighted user
has no problem playing the audio sample using a mouse.

I am using Windows 10,, NVDA 2016.1 and Firefox46.1 on a desktop PC.

If List members would like to see the problem for themselves I recommend the
following url:
https://fe.bolindadigital.com/wldcs_bol_fo/b2i/productOverview.html?b2bSite=
4834&browseItemId=366096&fromPage=1
It is not necessary to sign in to sample the reading of a title.

Here is a typical audio book display:

--Start of clip -----------------------
link graphic Railway Viaduct
embedded object unavailable (this should say "Preview" but doesn't!)
Link Reserve
On Loan, Available on 22/05/16
Link Railway Viaduct
Link Edward Marston
Read by Sam Dastor
Crime & Thriller, Historical Fiction
eAudiobook - Unabridged
---end of clip ------------------

The player for the audio sample is activated by an "embedded object" that is
flagged by NVDA as "not being available". The BorrowBox help page advises
that Adobe flash must be active to enable audio sampling of each title. I
have Adobe flash installed and active. For example, I can play any song in
YouTube in Firefox without any problem.

After many weeks of failing to play the preview, I found the following
workaround using NVDA:

From the top of the web page select eAudio if not already selected. Then
press "g" to find a book title. If the next object after pressing
down-arrow once is "embedded Object" then you have an audio book and we can
start.

Here is the full sequence of steps:
1. Press G for the graphic of the book title;
2. Press down-arrow once to the embedded object. You should hear "Embedded
Object not available";
3. Press NVDA + numpad Enter to activate the embedded object. You should
hear "Embedded Object Unavailable Activate";
4. Press right arrow once. You should hear ""Space";
5. Press the space bar to start and stop the sample audio of the narrator
speaking.

If pressing the space bar does not act as a toggle and the enter key does
not do the job either:
6. Press right arrow once;
7. Press space bar or main keyboard enter to play and stop playing the audio
sample.

Can anyone advise what to do about this?
A. Is it an NVDA problem?
B. Is it a Firefox problem?
c. Is it a BorrowBox problem for the developer Bolinda to see to?


All the best,

Cearbhall

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@blbc.ie







NVDACon 2016: missed the Keynote? Don't worry, ACB Radio's got you covered

 

Hi everyone,

 

For those who’ve missed the keynote, ACB Radio’s Main Menu will broadcast it on May 13, 2016 at 6 PM Pacific (9 PM Eastern, 01:00 UTC on May 14th). Note that repeats of the Keynote will be broadcast throughout next few days.

The announcement can be found at:

http://acbradio.org/pipermail/mm-friends/2016-May/001821.html

Thanks.

Cheers,

Joseph

Former chair, NVDACon International organizers

Chair, NVDA Tenth Anniversary Planning Committee

 


Re: an add-on for visual studio is under development testing and feedback

mohammad suliman
 

hello Jacob,
not an expert in this area, but think it doesn't, because, addons can be executed without installing python at the system at all.
regarding the new project dialog, haven't played with that, if issues have been fixed somehow, great. if not, what are the problems there.
please let me know if you have other suggestions.
thanks,
Mohammad

On 5/13/2016 9:21 AM, Jacob Kruger wrote:
Will play around with it, and, it does already seem to improve things like intellisense, new project dialogue, etc.

Would it make a difference that the two versions of python have installed on this machine are 3.4 and 3.5.1?

Shouldn't, but, FWIW, think current version of system environment variable %path% points to 3.5.1, but anyway.

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, acceptance is versatile"

----- Original Message ----- From: "mohammad suliman" <mohmad.s93@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: 13 May, 2016 2:00 AM
Subject: [nvda] an add-on for visual studio is under development testing and feedback


hello all,
I am currently developing an add-on for visual studio to resolve accessibility issues in some parts of the IDE's UI.
for all who might be interested, I want to know which parts of the UI do you find problematic and need further enhancements?? especially, if someone has used VS with jaws and he/she knows in which areas NVDA needs enhancements it will be great to hear from him /her.
here is the link for the git repo of the add-on
https://github.com/mohammad-suliman/visualStudioAddon
you can find info there of what I have done so far.
i fixed the problem of NVDA not reading the content of the debug windows. and made some improvements to intelliSinse. more info on the github page.
to test the add-on, you can clone the repo and build the add-on if you are familiar with add-on development. if not you can get only the file addon/appModules/devenv.py and put it in side your app module of NVDA user directory. if you need more info, just let me know.
I also can put the file on dropbox and share a link to it if that helps.
your feedback and help is so appreciated.
a question for code reviewers on the NVDA add-ons list, do you think that it is a good time to review the add-on now? if you think so, please feel free to do that.
I of course will be delighted to hear your tips, but I don't want you to do the review several times. the code still in the alpha cycle.
thanks,
Mohammad







Re: Web Page navigation

Gene
 

This is like a very short tutorial.  Trying what I describe may help you understand and work with what we have been discussing.
 
Let's use this very nonstandard web page to get to a much more typical one.  Open the page, make sure you are at the top with the command control home.
Now tab to the first story.  The first news story is:
Solidarity launches class action against GEPF
Follow that link by pressing enter.
You will be taken to the page with the story.  Starting at the top of the page, press h.  That will move you to a heading and as you continue to press it, you will be moved to other headings.  The heading that is the title of the story is where the article begins.  If you start reading from there by down arrowing or by using the read to end command, you will start hearing the article.  If you stop reading and press h two or three more times, you will see a heading that says your next story.  There will be a link to the next story either above or below the heading.  A heading is written using a different format to draw the reader's eye to the text of the heading.  You don't do anything with a heading except read it.  You would expect the link to be below the heading since the heading is not a link.  And if you down arrow, you will find the link.  You may find on some sites, that you have to up arrow, but usually, if the heading is not the link, you would down arrow. 
 
Gene

From: Gene
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 10:16 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Web Page navigation

This message is long but I'm not sure the material could have been adequately covered in a shorter message.
 
The site you are discussing is not a typical Internet site. 
First a comment or two about structures in general.  You don't open headings.  You move to them.  You follow links by pressing enter on them.  But the site you are working with has nothing but links.  That is very nonstandard.  Go to the page you asked about.  Either start reading or if you just want to see links on this page, start tabbing.  Follow links by pressing enter.  If you want to learn to work with the commands you are trying to work with, use a conventionally formatted site.  Lots of sites are more or less conventionally formatted.  But this site is so nonstandard that we can tell you how to work with this site but it is not representative of most other sites. 
 
Here is more information. 
 
On the page you gave a link for, most quick navigation keys will only give you messages such as no next heading or no next button, etc.  That's because there are none and wherever you are on the page, there are none below where you are.  The commands such as h move to the next heading below your current position.  On this page, no matter where you are, there are no headings below where you are.  There is nothing anywhere on the page but links and text. 
even at the top of the page moving down the entire page, there are none. 
 
All such commands, b for button, x for check box, etc. look for what they are supposed to look for moving down the page.  If they find what they are looking for, they move you to it.  If they don't find anything, you will stay where you are on the page.
 
I would suggest you get an NVDA tutorial and listen to sections you consider important.  A very well thought of tutorial is available here:
If you look through the page, you will see how it is organized and you will get an idea of what you want to listen to.  Some people learn better using written material but many people prefer tutorials and if you do, this is a good one.
 
As far as how the keys work in general, I don't know how many sites you've tried them on.  If you go to a more or less standard site, you should get responses from many of the keys. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 9:01 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Web Page navigation

Hi Gene & Brian.
 
First of all in response to an earlier reference from Gene I must state categorically that I am a complete novice as regards NVDA.
I have heard the term "there are more than one way to skin a cat".  Well I am present not able to skin any cat.
I have read thru quite a bit of the short cut keys and they do not react to the way I expect.
 
That is why i submitted my originally URL http://t.digitalnewspaper.co.za/nl/jsp/m.jsp?c=%40fjNSuVTurK7VzhMSOxyzIucXl%2BKsnii1IrXYxuvhTwY%3D which I list again. Gene went to a lot of trouble detailing certain key strokes. However en this led to all sort of results.
I am not all interested in any  k links. If at all possible would it not be possible to give me the simplest method,  At this stage I am only interested in opening the headings and would want the key strokes required to read such articles continuously to the end.  Is this possible?.
 
Regards,

William
 
 
 
------ Original Message ------
From: "Brian Vogel" <britechguy@...>
Sent: 2016/05/12 6:15:20 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Web Page navigation

Gene,

           When the format of a given specific webpage is known, and in this case it is known to be nothing more than a list of links to articles, I don't think it's a disservice to anyone who cannot see to state that fact and to tell them that for this particular page using an elements list is the way to go.

           I'm not trying to teach general principles here, but to help someone get through a very specific webpage, and its child pages.

           And, yes, that's my opinion when I have a specific case under discussion, not a "how would one best go about this in the general case of an unfamiliar page."  Even then I'd encourage someone to give the elements list a look to get a quick snapshot regarding what links, headers, or landmarks might or might not be present.  There's more than one way to skin a cat.

Brian
-- 

Never underestimate the difficulty of changing false beliefs by facts. 
   ~ Henry Rosovsky

    



Kindle App

Chris Shook <chris0309@...>
 

Hi,
Does NVDA work with the Kindle App for PC? If so, are their any specian commands you need to use?
I'd really appreciate any help you can give.
Thanks
Chris


Re: Something strange in Firefox

Arnþór Helgason
 

Thank you very much. I should have remembered this but my memory seems to be worse than before.

Regards,
Arnthor