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Re: nvda is losing control of its keys again

Tyler Spivey
 

It looks like your NVDA key got stuck. Does it fix itself if you just press and release it?

The log wasn't useful because it wasn't at the right level.

Usually if some modifier gets stuck, I just press all of them and it fixes itself. It happens to me with virtual machines all the time. Shouldn't happen with Discord though.

On 2/1/2020 6:50 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
Hello to all, NVDA just twice in the last 5 minutes lost control of its keys. I was in discord and suddenly my keys just won't working right. I would hit shift space and I would hear "single letter nav on" etc. I'm running 19.2 stable and latest. Here is the old log file I got before I restarted nvda.


INFO - __main__ (18:45:15.907):
Starting NVDA
INFO - core.main (18:45:17.467):
Config dir: C:\Users\Sarah\AppData\Roaming\nvda
INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (18:45:17.467):
Loading config: C:\Users\Sarah\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini
INFO - core.main (18:45:17.566):
NVDA version 2019.2.1
INFO - core.main (18:45:17.566):
Using Windows version 10.0.18363 workstation
INFO - core.main (18:45:17.566):
Using Python version 2.7.16 (v2.7.16:413a49145e, Mar  4 2019, 01:30:55) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]
INFO - core.main (18:45:17.566):
Using comtypes version 1.1.7
INFO - core.main (18:45:17.566):
Using configobj version 5.1.0 with validate version 1.0.1
INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (18:45:18.009):
Loaded synthDriver oneCore
INFO - core.main (18:45:18.211):
Using wx version 4.0.3 msw (phoenix) wxWidgets 3.0.5
INFO - brailleInput.initialize (18:45:18.213):
Braille input initialized
INFO - braille.initialize (18:45:18.214):
Using liblouis version 3.10.0
INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (18:45:18.217):
Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.
WARNING - core.main (18:45:18.249):
Java Access Bridge not available
INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (18:45:18.260):
UIAutomation: IUIAutomation6
INFO - external:globalPlugins.translate.GlobalPlugin.__init__ (18:45:22.362):
Translate module initialized, translating to en
INFO - core.main (18:45:22.539):
NVDA initialized
INFO - core.main (18:47:02.174):
Exiting
INFO - config.ConfigManager.save (18:47:02.368):
Base configuration saved
INFO - __main__ (18:47:05.082):
NVDA exit


Can any one advise? I know this has ben an issue for a while.


Tc and be blessed.



Page numbers in microsoft word 365 desktop client

amir din
 

Hi,

Using nvda, with  microsoft word 365 installed on windows 10. Now, normally if we open a document, the first will be page one. Nvda also said that. Imagine a large document containing many pages.

now, if we want to change it, like for example we want the first 3 pages are page I, II and III, and then the 4th page is numbered 1, and it continues from there. I did go to the insert -> page numbers, and successfully played with that so that if i go to the top of the file it will say page number 2 instead of 1, meaning i changed the starting page. But i cannot get it work the way i want as described. Normally the main content started after table of contents, then maybe the next page is the appreciation thing so not yet page one, then after that only the content or the first chapter, for example, begins so it is numbered as  page 1.

Also, does the page number that nvda say when we press ctrl+page up or down is the same as what appeared on the screen. If we insert the page number, doesnt matter where, it could be top or bottom of the page, can we use the arrow keys to get to the page number? I tried but not found where it is, but nvda says it is page 2 page 3 etc.

Thanks.


nvda is losing control of its keys again

Sarah k Alawami
 

Hello to all, NVDA just twice in the last 5 minutes lost control of its keys. I was in discord and suddenly my keys just won't working right. I would hit shift space and I would hear "single letter nav on" etc. I'm running 19.2 stable and latest. Here is the old log file I got before I restarted nvda.


INFO - __main__ (18:45:15.907):
Starting NVDA
INFO - core.main (18:45:17.467):
Config dir: C:\Users\Sarah\AppData\Roaming\nvda
INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (18:45:17.467):
Loading config: C:\Users\Sarah\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini
INFO - core.main (18:45:17.566):
NVDA version 2019.2.1
INFO - core.main (18:45:17.566):
Using Windows version 10.0.18363 workstation
INFO - core.main (18:45:17.566):
Using Python version 2.7.16 (v2.7.16:413a49145e, Mar  4 2019, 01:30:55) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]
INFO - core.main (18:45:17.566):
Using comtypes version 1.1.7
INFO - core.main (18:45:17.566):
Using configobj version 5.1.0 with validate version 1.0.1
INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (18:45:18.009):
Loaded synthDriver oneCore
INFO - core.main (18:45:18.211):
Using wx version 4.0.3 msw (phoenix) wxWidgets 3.0.5
INFO - brailleInput.initialize (18:45:18.213):
Braille input initialized
INFO - braille.initialize (18:45:18.214):
Using liblouis version 3.10.0
INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (18:45:18.217):
Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.
WARNING - core.main (18:45:18.249):
Java Access Bridge not available
INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (18:45:18.260):
UIAutomation: IUIAutomation6
INFO - external:globalPlugins.translate.GlobalPlugin.__init__ (18:45:22.362):
Translate module initialized, translating to en
INFO - core.main (18:45:22.539):
NVDA initialized
INFO - core.main (18:47:02.174):
Exiting
INFO - config.ConfigManager.save (18:47:02.368):
Base configuration saved
INFO - __main__ (18:47:05.082):
NVDA exit


Can any one advise? I know this has ben an issue for a while.


Tc and be blessed.


Weird differences between chrome & Firefox using NVDA

Jackie
 

I was designing a custom site registration form using a Wordpress
plugin called UltimateMember. In the form, I had a series of 5
checkboxes. In Firefox, the form rendered beautifully using NVDA. In
chrome, absolutely no checkboxes rendered, but NVDA could see these
using object navigation.

Anyone have any idea why that might be happening, or, better yet, an
idea for a fix?

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Re: Audacity with NVDA

Bernd Dorer
 

Hi Brian and Hermann,

thanks for your answers.

Bernd

Am 02.02.2020 um 00:06 schrieb Brian Vogel:

By the way, there are a number of tutorials, including from the Audacity Team itself, on working with Audacity with screen readers.

Accessibility - Audacity Manual

Accessibility - Audacity Manual

 

Audacity for blind users - Audacity Wiki

Audacity for Windows Part 1: Introduction and Interface ...


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Re: Audacity with NVDA

Hermann-Josef Kurzen
 

Hi Bernd,

look here:
https://github.com/paulber007/AudacityNVDAAddon/releases#start-of-content


Greetings - Hermann

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Hi all,

some time ago there were 2 nvda addons for audacity. Does someone know
whether one of them has been updated for NVDA 2019.3 and if not, where
could I find them and if it's possible, what are the differences of them?

Thanks and best regards

Bernd



Re: Audacity with NVDA

 

By the way, there are a number of tutorials, including from the Audacity Team itself, on working with Audacity with screen readers.

Accessibility - Audacity Manual

Accessibility - Audacity Manual

 

Audacity for blind users - Audacity Wiki

Audacity for Windows Part 1: Introduction and Interface ...


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Re: Audacity with NVDA

 

There is an extended discussion of these two add-ons in the NVDA Add-Ons group, dating from late 2018:  https://nvda-addons.groups.io/g/nvda-addons/topic/8024657
This discussion gets highly technical since that venue is actually for developers, not end users.

Based on the Github entry for the one by Paul Bering, AudacityNVDAAddon, it has not been updated since January 2018, so would not be compatible with NVDA 2019.3 (or most likely wouldn't).  I don't see any mention of Python 3.

The other, by Robert Hänggi, AudacityTwoTwoPlus, has a last commit date two months later, in March 2018, and mention of some Python 3 work is mentioned in the previously noted topic in the NVDA Add-Ons group.  But b.ased on the last commit date, it's also not likely to be compatible with NVDA 2019.3.

If you have a GitHub account you could open an issue for either one, or both, of these pieces of software are still being worked on and whether updates for compatibility with NVDA 2019.3 are in the works.

Neither appears to be "officially vetted" for inclusion on what I call the official NVDA Add-Ons page:  https://addons.nvda-project.org/index.en.html
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Audacity with NVDA

Bernd Dorer
 

Hi all,

some time ago there were 2 nvda addons for audacity. Does someone know whether one of them has been updated for NVDA 2019.3 and if not, where could I find them and if it's possible, what are the differences of them?

Thanks and best regards

Bernd


Re: Is there a sentence nav's version to NVDA 2019.3?

Chris
 

From: Daniel Damacena
Sent: 01 February 2020 17:40
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Is there a sentence nav's version to NVDA 2019.3?

 

Hi, folks!

Is there a sentence nav's version that I can use with NVDA 2019.3?

Thank you so much!


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Is there a sentence nav's version to NVDA 2019.3?

Daniel Damacena
 

Hi, folks!
Is there a sentence nav's version that I can use with NVDA 2019.3?
Thank you so much!

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Monthly Group Rules Reminder for the NVDA Group (nvda@nvda.groups.io)

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Re: nvda 2019.3 beta 3 is out

Lenron
 

Yeah I found them thanks to the links someone posted above.

On 1/31/20, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
There is an NVDA attachment which allows you to use Eloquence and another
synthesizer. I don’t remember which one now. SAPI 5 Eloquence will work
with any program that supports SAPI 5. I don’t know what you saw but they
are both available from the company you were looking at.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Lenron
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2020 4:51 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda 2019.3 beta 3 is out

where could I find the sapi version of eloquence, I saw it for 69
dollars on the ATGuys site but that was only for working with NVDA.

On 1/31/20, hurrikennyandopo ... <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:
Hi


Looks as though a beta 4 has just come out.


Gene nz


On 1/02/2020 6:13 am, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Sorry but there's no such thing as a free lunch!



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Chikodinaka mr. Oguledo
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2020 5:56 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda 2019.3 beta 3 is out

how do I get these py voices for free. I need a link. please vocial free
voice. free freee voice. I need free hq voices. please. NVDA I have a
dors consiler to help me out with voices and caust.

On 1/31/20, Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...> wrote:
Hello Josh!


The SAPI5 versions will work with any version of NVDA or any other
software since they are resident in Windows...


The NVDA addon for Vocalizer, from Tiflotecnia or from CodeFactory,
will also work in NVDA 2019.3 since both companies already have Beta
versions working in that version of NVDA.



At least, the one from Tiflotecnia, still have some problems in fase
of resolution...


Rui Fontes

Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Às 11:37 de 31/01/2020, Josh Kennedy escreveu:
Hi,
one more question. I bought both eloquence sapi5, vocalizer sapi5,
and also the eloquence vocalizer NVDA addon from www.atguys.com
<http://www.atguys.com> ... will all of these work with NVDA2019.3
betas and beyond? Or should I just use the sapi5 products that I
bought because there is no python3 eloquence vocalizer addon yet? I
bought all these products maybe 3 or more months ago.

Josh








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Re: nvda 2019.3 beta 3 is out

Gene
 

There is an NVDA attachment which allows you to use Eloquence and another synthesizer. I don’t remember which one now.  SAPI 5 Eloquence will work with any program that supports SAPI 5.  I don’t know what you saw but they are both available from the company you were looking at.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Lenron
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2020 4:51 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda 2019.3 beta 3 is out
 
where could I find the sapi version of eloquence, I saw it for 69
dollars on the ATGuys site but that was only for working with NVDA.

On 1/31/20, hurrikennyandopo ... <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:
> Hi
>
>
> Looks as though a beta 4 has just come out.
>
>
> Gene nz
>
>
> On 1/02/2020 6:13 am, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
>> Sorry but there's no such thing as a free lunch!
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
>> Chikodinaka mr. Oguledo
>> Sent: Friday, January 31, 2020 5:56 AM
>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda 2019.3 beta 3 is out
>>
>> how do I get these py voices for free. I need a link. please vocial free
>> voice. free freee voice.  I need free hq voices. please. NVDA I have a
>> dors consiler to help me out with voices and caust.
>>
>> On 1/31/20, Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...> wrote:
>>> Hello Josh!
>>>
>>>
>>> The SAPI5 versions will work with any version of NVDA or any other
>>> software since they are resident in Windows...
>>>
>>>
>>> The NVDA addon for Vocalizer, from Tiflotecnia or from CodeFactory,
>>> will also work in NVDA 2019.3 since both companies already have Beta
>>> versions working in that version of NVDA.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> At least, the one from Tiflotecnia, still have some problems in fase
>>> of resolution...
>>>
>>>
>>> Rui Fontes
>>>
>>> Tiflotecnia, Lda.
>>>
>>>
>>> Às 11:37 de 31/01/2020, Josh Kennedy escreveu:
>>>> Hi,
>>>> one more question. I bought both eloquence sapi5, vocalizer sapi5,
>>>> and also the eloquence vocalizer NVDA addon from www.atguys.com
>>>> <http://www.atguys.com> ... will all of these work with NVDA2019.3
>>>> betas and beyond? Or should I just use the sapi5 products that I
>>>> bought because there is no python3 eloquence vocalizer addon yet? I
>>>> bought all these products maybe 3 or more months ago.
>>>>
>>>> Josh
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>


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Re: dragging roles in discord?

Sarah k Alawami
 

I don't have android, and doing this on iOs is not doable. So I must use NVDA to do this. I have the drag drop add on, but that is not working very well, but it might be an id10t error as I just got the add on today.

Take care

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On 31 Jan 2020, at 10:24, Franjo Lučić wrote:

You can't, unfortunately. That's just about the only thing that's not yet accessible. You can, however, do it on Android. Go into server settings, roles, and then drag them around. Voice Assistant will even report that the role order has been changed.

On 31/01/2020 17:05, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

Hello to all. I dunno if anyone has found a way to do this, but how can I accessibly using nvda drag roles in discord. I want to put one so that it can manage roles lower than it, but when I create the role it is at the bottom or close to it of the list. Has anyone found a way to successfully and reliably drag roles in the right order without sighted assistance? I should be able to do this by myself. So far I've manage to manage 3 servers, I own two of them and help run 3 or 4 of them, but this small thing I cannot do as of yet. I'm running discord canary by the way if that helps which in this case it might not.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.

to subscribe to the feed click here

Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc.

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on [twitch.](twitch.tv/ke7zum] Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

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Re: nvda 2019.3 beta 3 is out

 

On 1/02/2020 11:51 am, Lenron wrote:
where could I find the sapi version of eloquence, I saw it for 69
dollars on the ATGuys site but that was only for working with NVDA.

On 1/31/20, hurrikennyandopo ... <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:
Hi


Looks as though a beta 4 has just come out.


Gene nz


On 1/02/2020 6:13 am, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Sorry but there's no such thing as a free lunch!



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Chikodinaka mr. Oguledo
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2020 5:56 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda 2019.3 beta 3 is out

how do I get these py voices for free. I need a link. please vocial free
voice. free freee voice. I need free hq voices. please. NVDA I have a
dors consiler to help me out with voices and caust.

On 1/31/20, Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...> wrote:
Hello Josh!


The SAPI5 versions will work with any version of NVDA or any other
software since they are resident in Windows...


The NVDA addon for Vocalizer, from Tiflotecnia or from CodeFactory,
will also work in NVDA 2019.3 since both companies already have Beta
versions working in that version of NVDA.



At least, the one from Tiflotecnia, still have some problems in fase
of resolution...


Rui Fontes

Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Às 11:37 de 31/01/2020, Josh Kennedy escreveu:
Hi,
one more question. I bought both eloquence sapi5, vocalizer sapi5,
and also the eloquence vocalizer NVDA addon from www.atguys.com
<http://www.atguys.com> ... will all of these work with NVDA2019.3
betas and beyond? Or should I just use the sapi5 products that I
bought because there is no python3 eloquence vocalizer addon yet? I
bought all these products maybe 3 or more months ago.

Josh





Re: nvda 2019.3 beta 3 is out

Lenron
 

where could I find the sapi version of eloquence, I saw it for 69
dollars on the ATGuys site but that was only for working with NVDA.

On 1/31/20, hurrikennyandopo ... <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:
Hi


Looks as though a beta 4 has just come out.


Gene nz


On 1/02/2020 6:13 am, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Sorry but there's no such thing as a free lunch!



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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Chikodinaka mr. Oguledo
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2020 5:56 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda 2019.3 beta 3 is out

how do I get these py voices for free. I need a link. please vocial free
voice. free freee voice. I need free hq voices. please. NVDA I have a
dors consiler to help me out with voices and caust.

On 1/31/20, Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...> wrote:
Hello Josh!


The SAPI5 versions will work with any version of NVDA or any other
software since they are resident in Windows...


The NVDA addon for Vocalizer, from Tiflotecnia or from CodeFactory,
will also work in NVDA 2019.3 since both companies already have Beta
versions working in that version of NVDA.



At least, the one from Tiflotecnia, still have some problems in fase
of resolution...


Rui Fontes

Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Às 11:37 de 31/01/2020, Josh Kennedy escreveu:
Hi,
one more question. I bought both eloquence sapi5, vocalizer sapi5,
and also the eloquence vocalizer NVDA addon from www.atguys.com
<http://www.atguys.com> ... will all of these work with NVDA2019.3
betas and beyond? Or should I just use the sapi5 products that I
bought because there is no python3 eloquence vocalizer addon yet? I
bought all these products maybe 3 or more months ago.

Josh







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Re: nvda 2019.3 beta 3 is out

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


Looks as though a beta 4 has just come out.


Gene nz

On 1/02/2020 6:13 am, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Sorry but there's no such thing as a free lunch!



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chikodinaka mr. Oguledo
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2020 5:56 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda 2019.3 beta 3 is out

how do I get these py voices for free. I need a link. please vocial free voice. free freee voice. I need free hq voices. please. NVDA I have a dors consiler to help me out with voices and caust.

On 1/31/20, Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...> wrote:
Hello Josh!


The SAPI5 versions will work with any version of NVDA or any other
software since they are resident in Windows...


The NVDA addon for Vocalizer, from Tiflotecnia or from CodeFactory,
will also work in NVDA 2019.3 since both companies already have Beta
versions working in that version of NVDA.



At least, the one from Tiflotecnia, still have some problems in fase
of resolution...


Rui Fontes

Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Às 11:37 de 31/01/2020, Josh Kennedy escreveu:
Hi,
one more question. I bought both eloquence sapi5, vocalizer sapi5,
and also the eloquence vocalizer NVDA addon from www.atguys.com
<http://www.atguys.com> ... will all of these work with NVDA2019.3
betas and beyond? Or should I just use the sapi5 products that I
bought because there is no python3 eloquence vocalizer addon yet? I
bought all these products maybe 3 or more months ago.

Josh





Re: Too Much Serendipity. I'm Obviously Missing Something.

Dave Grossoehme
 

Good Afternoon:  I apologize for seeing your message a little late.  However, I might have a couple of ideas to try.  What happens when you press the backspace key?  The next question is the shift + tab key combination.  If the tab key won't do anything then the nexdt thing that comes to my mind which has been a help for many programs is the shift + tab.  This generally will take you back one tab stop.  If these ideas don't help, try pressing the application key which is the key to the left of the right control key.  After pressing the application key try arrowing down and see what options you have here.  It seems like the windows 10 has starting to place more options here.

Dave

On 1/25/2020 7:19 AM, Martin McCormick wrote:
First, thank you. I will try your suggestion.

After a night's sleep, I have figured out some of the
madness and it's definitely not right but somewhat manageable once
you know what it is.

I open a new window and start the program. I then load
the work file I am building and then virtually move the mouse to
the tree top. Next, it's expand the tree and visit one of the
eleven major headings, expanding as needed or just clicking with a
double-left-click for those that have only one level.

If you type the Tab key, you always start off by getting that strum
sound which means nothing is going to happen.

If you haven't visited any of the major headings and gone
in yet, your first attempt to open one usually works with the
double-left-click opening the item. The Tab key starts working
and you can do your work then a Single left-click puts you back
out on the street, so to speak.

Here's what I discovered however. After one visits that
first field in whatever area one chose, you can not apparently
visit other major headings. The double-left-clicks stop opening
things or they are the wrong things or you end up randomly
somewhere else depending on how confused things are.

The Tab key now either reopens somewhere you've been or
the point of reference is lost and you just find yourself at a
heading that isn't needed right now.

I haven't figured out how to clear everything without
exiting the program and reloading. something is remembering just
enough stuff to be wrong after the first object visit. That Tab
key will continue to not strum but launch you in to the walls
every time you press it until you shut the program down.

Note to Tesla. Don't use this logic in your AI efforts.

I did try NVDA+enter. It said "Activate" and nothing else new
happened but this is definitely an issue of wrong focus or
remembering irrelevant information.

As I say, I have never used a piece of software that is
so broken.

If it turns out there is a strategy to make it normal,
it's not intuitive by any means.

The only thing good I can say is that if you can access
the different major headers, the program behaves but it is like
pulling teeth to get it to just do what it should.
Martin


"John Isige" <gwynn@...> writes:
If you really just double-clicked again, i.e. hit numpad slash twice
quickly, that might be your problem. I'd just defensively use routing.
It seems to work, and that way you're sure that you are where you think
you are. BTW, this may or may not work, but if you're using the object
cursor, NVDA-enter activates the object the cursor's on. That might let
you get to some things quicker than hitting NVDA-numpad slash and numpad
slash every time.


Re: dragging roles in discord?

Franjo Lučić
 

You can't, unfortunately. That's just about the only thing that's not yet accessible. You can, however, do it on Android. Go into server settings, roles, and then drag them around. Voice Assistant will even report that the role order has been changed.

On 31/01/2020 17:05, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

Hello to all. I dunno if anyone has found a way to do this, but how can I accessibly using nvda drag roles in discord. I want to put one so that it can manage roles lower than it, but when I create the role it is at the bottom or close to it of the list. Has anyone found a way to successfully and reliably drag roles in the right order without sighted assistance? I should be able to do this by myself. So far I've manage to manage 3 servers, I own two of them and help run 3 or 4 of them, but this small thing I cannot do as of yet. I'm running discord canary by the way if that helps which in this case it might not.

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