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Re: NVDACon 2016: Tenth Anniversary Keynote (NV Access) recording now available!

Bhavya shah
 

Hi,
The NVDACon International 2016 was great, and happy 10th birthday NVDA!
Thanks.

On 5/2/16, Robert Mendoza <lowvisiontek@gmail.com> wrote:
I would like to extend my overwhelming congrats to you, Joseph and
to the team member of this nvda conference in making a remarkable
success for the screen reader world as primetime tool specially to the
visual impaired community. Kudos to the effort that was seen all over
the world. Again, congratulation!

Robert Mendoza

On 5/2/2016 10:23 AM, David Moore wrote:
Hi all,
I am the same as Scott. I have only used NVDA for a year, but I am
using it almost as much as JAWS and I can perform tasks with the mouse
than I cannot accomplish with JAWS. I am getting more and more add
ons, and I appreciate what the NVDA community is doing so much. Happy
10th anniversary from me as well. I downloaded all of the recordings
to listen to as well, because I was not able to make the NVDACon.
Thanks all for what you are doing and may it flourish for years to
come. What a blessing it is that any blind person in the world can
have a screen reader without having to pay hundreds of dollars for a
screen reader. This is indeed wonderful. I will be using NVDA for
years to come.
*From:* Scott VanDeWalle <mailto:scottvandewalle2@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Sunday, May 1, 2016 9:48 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] NVDACon 2016: Tenth Anniversary Keynote (NV
Access) recording now available!
Hello everyone.

I'd like to wish nvda a very happy 10th birthday.
Even though I missed the last weekend of nvda con, I am still
supportive of nvda a/nd I hope it will live on for many many years, if
not forever.

Also i will download the keynote to listen to offline.
I've only begun using nvda on a pretty regular basis this past year,
2015.
Anyway, again, happy birthday to nvda and may nvda and the nvda
community live on.
Cheers

Scott V

twitter id:
@computerguy1969

/
On 5/1/2016 9:04 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Dear members of the NVDA and Python community, blindness community,
mainstream community, NVDA supporters around the world and others:

First, thank you very much for making NVDACon 2016/Tenth Anniversary
Edition a huge success. Words cannot describe how grateful the
organizers are at seeing such a turnout at NVDACon events, especially
the Keynote presentation from NV Access (almost 60 participants
showed up via various means).

As the highlight of NVDACon, here is the complete Keynote archive
package:

<!--[if !supportLists]-->·<!--[endif]-->Complete/live recording
(mp3):
http://www.nvda-kr.org/files/NVDACon_2016_Keynote%20(complete).mp3
<http://www.nvda-kr.org/files/NVDACon_2016_Keynote%20%28complete%29.mp3>

<!--[if !supportLists]-->·<!--[endif]-->NVDA: A Global Movement
promo: http://www.nvda-kr.org/files/NVDASR%20movement%20promo.mp3

<!--[if !supportLists]-->·<!--[endif]-->Keynote presentation session
including the actual speech and question and answer session:
http://www.nvda-kr.org/files/NVDACon_2016_Keynote%20(session).mp3
<http://www.nvda-kr.org/files/NVDACon_2016_Keynote%20%28session%29.mp3>

<!--[if !supportLists]-->·<!--[endif]-->Letter of thanks from NVDA
community:
http://www.nvda-kr.org/files/NVDACon_2016_Keynote%20(Community%20Letter).mp3

<http://www.nvda-kr.org/files/NVDACon_2016_Keynote%20%28Community%20Letter%29.mp3>

<!--[if !supportLists]-->·<!--[endif]-->Above three files compressed
(zip): http://www.nvda-kr.org/files/NVDACon_2016_Keynote.zip

For those who couldn’t come to the actual session, some online radio
stations will broadcast the speech portion of the Keynote session.

Once again, thanks for your continued support for NVDA. Without you,
NVDA, NV Access and NVDACon would not have existed. Thank you.

Sincerely,

Joseph S. Lee

Department of Communication Studies (student), Los Angeles City College

Former student of computer science, University of California, Riverside

Translator (Korean), code contributor and community add-ons reviewer,
NVDA screen reader project

Chair, NVDA Tenth Anniversary Planning Committee

Chief organizer, International NVDA Users and Developers Conference
(February 2014 to April 2016)

Lead organizer, NVDACon Korea (February 2013 to present)

Organization advisor, NVDACon US (May 2016 to present)
--
Warm Regards
Bhavya Shah
Using NVDA (Non Visual Desktop Access) free and open source screen
reader for Microsoft Windows
To download a copy of the free screen reader NVDA, please visit
http://www.nvaccess.org/
Using Google Talkback on Motorolla G second generation Lollipop 5.0.2
Reach me through the following means:
Mobile: +91 7506221750
E-mail id: bhavya.shah125@gmail.com
Skype id : bhavya.09


Re: NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is

Arlene
 

Hi, What other screen reader do you have on your computer? If you have a back up screen reader besides NVDA why not try it to make sure it's not your Braille Display? It sounds like you might have botched up a setting while setting it up for it to run on NVDA. If it works on your back up screen reader, then there's something up with a setting for NVDA.

-----Original Message-----
From: Sharni-Lee Ward [mailto:sharni-lee.ward@hotmail.com]
Sent: May-01-16 4:01 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is

It just happened again, again while I was writing. My mother came to
help me again and tried to save my work. Word wouldn't respond. She
tried to exit NVDA mannually, but it wouldn't allow her to do that. She
scanned NVDA with Microsoft Security Essentials but nothing came up. I'm
now using the computer without my Braille Display. I don't understand
why it's doing this to me, but I can't think of any other culprit. It's
brand new. We bought it in February and I've barely used it, partly
because of this issue and partly because of the MUD I've been playing.
But I've had it plugged into my computer via USB almost constantly since
I got it and installed the driver. The computer usually starts up with
it plugged in.


Please, someone, help! I want to solve this problem as soon as possible!
I've had about enough of this and I don't want to sacrifice my Braille
Display just because this is happening!


On 2/05/2016 7:10 AM, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote:
I've mentioned this before, but it's been weeks and I don't know if I
got any more useful help after Joseph said to submit a log entry. Which
given the nature of my problem, I doubt would work.


Since I got my Braille Display in February, NVDA has frozen with
alarming regularity. It hasn't been like previous experiences of the
phenomenon either. I used to occasionally have NVDA freeze, but I could
restart the screen reader with alt+ctrl+n. With this situation, I can't.
NVDA completely stops working. It says nothing. The Braille display's
display remains frozen on whatever was last spoken. I can't restart
NVDA, and sometimes can't even shut down the computer without sighted
help. That's the only way to get things working again—shut down and
restart the computer. I used to only experience this soon after startup,
especially when I tried to activate the snapshot with the experimental
UEB table in it, but now I'm having it happen after the computer's been
going for a while, and it happens on both the normal installation and
the brltbl snapshot. Just now, I had it happen while I was writing in a
document. I was typing merrily away when NVDA stopped reporting letters
and the Braille Display, when I checked it, was only displaying the
first two words I'd typed on that line.


This is getting seriously annoying both for me and my mother, who is my
carer. I don't know what's causing this problem but I have a horrible
feeling it's to do with my Focus 40 Blue, as it didn't happen before I
got it. Can anyone shed some light on this? I want it to stop so my
writing and other activities don't keep getting interrupted.




Re: NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is

Arlene
 

Hi there: Do you think your computer could have mellwhere to cause this
freezing?

-----Original Message-----
From: Rob [mailto:captinlogic@gmail.com]
Sent: May-01-16 6:31 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is

Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
Why wouldn't my workaround accomplish the same end but more easily.
Because most of the keyboard is frozen when this freeze happens. The only
thing that works is the windows key and some function keys.


Re: NVDACon 2016: Tenth Anniversary Keynote (NV Access) recording now available!

Robert Mendoza
 

    I would like to extend my overwhelming congrats to you, Joseph and to the team member of this nvda conference in making a remarkable success for the screen reader world as primetime tool specially to the visual impaired community. Kudos to the effort that was seen all over the world. Again, congratulation!

Robert Mendoza
On 5/2/2016 10:23 AM, David Moore wrote:

Hi all,
I am the same as Scott. I have only used NVDA for a year, but I am using it almost as much as JAWS and I can perform tasks with the mouse than I cannot accomplish with JAWS. I am getting more and more add ons, and I appreciate what the NVDA community is doing so much. Happy 10th anniversary from me as well. I downloaded all of the recordings to listen to as well, because I was not able to make the NVDACon. Thanks all for what you are doing and may it flourish for years to come. What a blessing it is that any blind person in the world can have a screen reader without having to pay hundreds of dollars for a screen reader. This is indeed wonderful. I will be using NVDA for years to come.
 
 
Sent: Sunday, May 1, 2016 9:48 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDACon 2016: Tenth Anniversary Keynote (NV Access) recording now available!
 
Hello everyone.

I'd like to wish nvda a very happy 10th birthday.
Even though I missed the last weekend of nvda con, I am still supportive of nvda and I hope it will live on for many many years, if not forever.

Also i will download the keynote to listen to offline.
I've only begun  using nvda on a pretty regular basis this past year, 2015.
Anyway, again, happy birthday to nvda and may nvda and the nvda community live on.
Cheers

Scott V

twitter id:
@computerguy1969


On 5/1/2016 9:04 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Dear members of the NVDA and Python community, blindness community, mainstream community, NVDA supporters around the world and others:

 

First, thank you very much for making NVDACon 2016/Tenth Anniversary Edition a huge success. Words cannot describe how grateful the organizers are at seeing such a turnout at NVDACon events, especially the Keynote presentation from NV Access (almost 60 participants showed up via various means).

 

As the highlight of NVDACon, here is the complete Keynote archive package:

 

<!--[if !supportLists]-->·         <!--[endif]-->Complete/live recording (mp3): http://www.nvda-kr.org/files/NVDACon_2016_Keynote%20(complete).mp3

<!--[if !supportLists]-->·         <!--[endif]-->NVDA: A Global Movement promo: http://www.nvda-kr.org/files/NVDASR%20movement%20promo.mp3

<!--[if !supportLists]-->·         <!--[endif]-->Keynote presentation session including the actual speech and question and answer session: http://www.nvda-kr.org/files/NVDACon_2016_Keynote%20(session).mp3

<!--[if !supportLists]-->·         <!--[endif]-->Letter of thanks from NVDA community: http://www.nvda-kr.org/files/NVDACon_2016_Keynote%20(Community%20Letter).mp3

<!--[if !supportLists]-->·         <!--[endif]-->Above three files compressed (zip): http://www.nvda-kr.org/files/NVDACon_2016_Keynote.zip

 

For those who couldn’t come to the actual session, some online radio stations will broadcast the speech portion of the Keynote session.

 

Once again, thanks for your continued support for NVDA. Without you, NVDA, NV Access and NVDACon would not have existed. Thank you.

Sincerely,

Joseph S. Lee

Department of Communication Studies (student), Los Angeles City College

Former student of computer science, University of California, Riverside

Translator (Korean), code contributor and community add-ons reviewer, NVDA screen reader project

Chair, NVDA Tenth Anniversary Planning Committee

Chief organizer, International NVDA Users and Developers Conference (February 2014 to April 2016)

Lead organizer, NVDACon Korea (February 2013 to present)

Organization advisor, NVDACon US (May 2016 to present)

 




Re: Accessible online survey creation tool

 

well servveymonnkey is something a lot use, its accessible enough there is a gismo serveys and that is semi accessible.
To be honest I usually think of serveys as spyware inducing, I do answer them if they are for access programs or organisations etc but yeah.

On 2/05/2016 1:16 a.m., Bhavya shah wrote:
Dear all,
I require to create an online survey about a certain potential
initiative and the amount of interest in it people may have, which may
include several question types - country combo box/dropdown, open
ended question edit box, radio button and check box, and an
introductory paragraph.
For this, I seek your advice and recommendations of a free online
survey creation service that could fulfill my purpose.
I do not need very advanced functionality, simply basic survey
creation, sharing and results analysis features would suffice.
I would really appreciate any assistance any of you may be willing to give!
Thanks.


Re: NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is

 

I have had issues with nvda freezing sometimes, I can go to task manager and hit n and keep killing delete and enter until there is nothing saying n ofcause this will also kill anything with n then I restart nvda.
The only other time this happened, the system and nvda would freeze, it ended me cleaning the dust out of that particular unit and replacing a crook power unit.

On 2/05/2016 1:03 p.m., Gene wrote:
Also, if the log isn't helpful, you can get information using the Reliability history utility. I haven't used it for a long time and I would have to look at it again to provide details. Others might know as well. Depending on what people can learn from the log, that may or may not be necessary.

Gene
From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2016 8:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is


If you botched it, you would probably have far more problems than just freezes. You can always reinstall it,.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Sharni-Lee Ward
Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2016 7:50 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is


Hi,


Yes, but you have Windows 10. I have 7.


So I didn't botch the installation or something? That's my biggest fear
right now, that I somehow botched something when I was setting up my
Braille Display.


On 2/05/2016 10:44 AM, Pranav Lal wrote:
Hi Sharni,

I have a similar problem but my log entries are different and my freezing occurs mainly in outlook 2016. Regardless, this is what I do to recover from it without sighted assistance.
1. Hit windows key +l or ctrl+alt+ddel. It depends on whichever key combination works.
2. I get to the login screen.
3. I can then tab to the shutdown button and power off or restart the computer.

OS=Windows 10
NVDA 2016.1
Pranav








Re: Visual Studio add-on.

mohammad suliman
 

Pawel,
it is possible to fix that via an addon I think. we need a regular expression to cut the positional info from the menu item name when it gains focus.
I agree that this is a bug because, menu items should not be exposed that way.

regards,
Mohammad

On 5/2/2016 5:19 AM, Pawel Urbanski wrote:
Hi Mohammad,
Thanks for your reply. Thinking about the first issue with the intelisense...
Since we are overwriting the control, can't we use the value of the
suggested completion and use NVDA's speech / braille functions to say
it / display it?

I think, we could also file a bug report to Microsoft and describe the
issue behind it.

Greetings,
Pawel

On 5/2/16, mohammad suliman <mohmad.s93@gmail.com> wrote:
hello,
actually, writing an app module for visual studio is on my to do list.
regarding the problems you mentioned with Intelisense:
don't know if most users will find it better without announcing the
positional info of each possible completion menu item. the problem here
also is not NVDA, the problem is how the list / menu item is exposed.
the name of the menu item includes that positional info.
regarding second problem: yes, i think that it is better for us all to
not have that lengthy announcement after the completion list is closed.

best,
Mohammad
On 4/30/2016 4:31 PM, Jacob Kruger wrote:
Ok, think have fixed those/the relevant errors - was my own mistake
since used a regular expression search/replace to strip out line
numbers when copied python script source from the gitHub page, but,
think have now fixed all the missing number values on line endings.

Still not rendering too much to me - file menu, new, project, and it
tells me it's the new project window, but, doesn't render any of the
internal controls in it.

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's closet..."

On 2016-04-30 2:51 PM, Jacob Kruger wrote:
Syntax error on line 63 of devenv.py:
#start of snippet
VsVersion_None =
VsVersion_2002 =
VsVersion_2003 =
VsVersion_2005 =
VsVersion_2008 =
#end of snippet

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's closet..."

On 2016-04-30 12:52 PM, Pawel Urbanski wrote:
Will check the logs. Do you think you could find a while and as the
last thing copy and paste the errors in this thread?

On 4/30/16, Jacob Kruger <jacob@blindza.co.za> wrote:
Ok, if look in the NVDA log, it's still throwing up errors, so seems
there might be an issue with how extracted source for the devenv.py
file
to place in that path.

So, sorry, NVDA is still not rendering much to me in terms of VS.Net
2015, so can't help with anything relating to intellisense, etc.

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's closet..."

On 2016-04-30 12:17 PM, Pawel Urbanski wrote:
Sounds like a good place. Telling it off the top of my head. Cannot
check it on the machine I am writing now.
But, getting back to my oryginal problem: how can we turn off reading
item possition in the Intelisense popup? And then hearing all th
etime
the window title when we leave the popup after picking the function /
whatever object...?

On 4/30/16, Jacob Kruger <jacob@blindza.co.za> wrote:
Ok, extracted python source.

Do I just place devenv.py in the following path?

c:\users\userName\appData\roaming\nvda\appModules

Thanks in advance

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's
closet..."

On 2016-04-30 11:36 AM, Pawel Urbanski wrote:
Hi Jacob,
The add-on is hosted at Github at the following URL:
https://github.com/ckundo/nvda/blob/master/source/appModules/devenv.py




The devenv.py is invluded by default with NVDA.

The new project wizard is quite OK ofr me. I am using Windows 10
64-bit. Or maybe I am skipping some elements without knowing
they are
on the screen since NVDA is not getting them either.

I like VS for the Intelisense support, which is very convinient in
comparason to Eclipse. You just start typing and get the list of
suggestions without dancing by pressing Control+Space as it happens
with Eclipse.

On 4/30/16, Jacob Kruger <jacob@blindza.co.za> wrote:
What is this VS 2015 add-on referred to, or is it just included as
part
of NVDA itself?

Asking since also, at times, play around with VS.Net 2015
community
edition, but, for example, the new project dialogue doesn't
seem to
get
read/rendered by NVDA 2016.1 at the moment, and NVDA doesn't
always
want
to react to rest of environment either?

TIA

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's
closet..."

On 2016-04-30 9:37 AM, Pawel Urbanski wrote:
Dear Group,
I am currently working using Visual Studio 2015 - the latest
update.
Since Microsoft introduced the Visual Studio Community edition,
which
used to be Professional edition, we got a very nice IDE.
There is an NVDA add-on, which is installed by default that
enhances
NVDA and VS interoperability.
The features are rather complete, but I found 2 issues:
1. When Intelisense with code suggestions popup is read, NVDA
keeps
reading the number of items in a edit combo / list, which can get
very
annoying / flustrating.
--- What is the way using code to silence reading this attribute?
NVDA
has the opption of not reading item possition information. Can we
apply it to individual controls?

2. When leaving the previously mentioned Intelisense popup, NVDA
keeps
reading the window type / title, which is way too verbose when
you
are
coding and keep jumping from the editor to Intelisense all the
time.
--- Can we control this from the add-on code?

I am not familiar with Python on the daily basis, but can find
someone
to fix the code or do it myself if the changes are minor and can
simply follow the documentation and do little trial and error.

Thanks for any hints and tips,
Pawel


















Re: NVDA and tab

 

It does this to when I enter the first page in firefox when I turn on my system, nvda does not always focus on the page it happens off and on.

On 2/05/2016 7:08 a.m., Nevzat Adil wrote:
Hello all,
I encounter an issue when trying to get on to the Internet which I am
not sure whether it is n NVDA issue or something else.
For instance, when I try to get to my home page, google, the page does
not seem to load and read by NVDA unless I press tab. It is only then
that NVDA begins reading the page. The same issue occurs when trying
to get onto other pages, as well.
My operating system is Windows 10 64 bit. NVDA is the most recent.
I would appreciate your comments.
Nevzat


Re: NVDACon 2016: Tenth Anniversary Keynote (NV Access) recording now available!

David Moore
 

Hi all,
I am the same as Scott. I have only used NVDA for a year, but I am using it almost as much as JAWS and I can perform tasks with the mouse than I cannot accomplish with JAWS. I am getting more and more add ons, and I appreciate what the NVDA community is doing so much. Happy 10th anniversary from me as well. I downloaded all of the recordings to listen to as well, because I was not able to make the NVDACon. Thanks all for what you are doing and may it flourish for years to come. What a blessing it is that any blind person in the world can have a screen reader without having to pay hundreds of dollars for a screen reader. This is indeed wonderful. I will be using NVDA for years to come.
 
 

Sent: Sunday, May 1, 2016 9:48 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDACon 2016: Tenth Anniversary Keynote (NV Access) recording now available!
 
Hello everyone.

I'd like to wish nvda a very happy 10th birthday.
Even though I missed the last weekend of nvda con, I am still supportive of nvda and I hope it will live on for many many years, if not forever.

Also i will download the keynote to listen to offline.
I've only begun  using nvda on a pretty regular basis this past year, 2015.
Anyway, again, happy birthday to nvda and may nvda and the nvda community live on.
Cheers

Scott V

twitter id:
@computerguy1969


On 5/1/2016 9:04 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Dear members of the NVDA and Python community, blindness community, mainstream community, NVDA supporters around the world and others:

 

First, thank you very much for making NVDACon 2016/Tenth Anniversary Edition a huge success. Words cannot describe how grateful the organizers are at seeing such a turnout at NVDACon events, especially the Keynote presentation from NV Access (almost 60 participants showed up via various means).

 

As the highlight of NVDACon, here is the complete Keynote archive package:

 

<!--[if !supportLists]-->·         <!--[endif]-->Complete/live recording (mp3): http://www.nvda-kr.org/files/NVDACon_2016_Keynote%20(complete).mp3

<!--[if !supportLists]-->·         <!--[endif]-->NVDA: A Global Movement promo: http://www.nvda-kr.org/files/NVDASR%20movement%20promo.mp3

<!--[if !supportLists]-->·         <!--[endif]-->Keynote presentation session including the actual speech and question and answer session: http://www.nvda-kr.org/files/NVDACon_2016_Keynote%20(session).mp3

<!--[if !supportLists]-->·         <!--[endif]-->Letter of thanks from NVDA community: http://www.nvda-kr.org/files/NVDACon_2016_Keynote%20(Community%20Letter).mp3

<!--[if !supportLists]-->·         <!--[endif]-->Above three files compressed (zip): http://www.nvda-kr.org/files/NVDACon_2016_Keynote.zip

 

For those who couldn’t come to the actual session, some online radio stations will broadcast the speech portion of the Keynote session.

 

Once again, thanks for your continued support for NVDA. Without you, NVDA, NV Access and NVDACon would not have existed. Thank you.

Sincerely,

Joseph S. Lee

Department of Communication Studies (student), Los Angeles City College

Former student of computer science, University of California, Riverside

Translator (Korean), code contributor and community add-ons reviewer, NVDA screen reader project

Chair, NVDA Tenth Anniversary Planning Committee

Chief organizer, International NVDA Users and Developers Conference (February 2014 to April 2016)

Lead organizer, NVDACon Korea (February 2013 to present)

Organization advisor, NVDACon US (May 2016 to present)

 



Re: Visual Studio add-on.

Pawel Urbanski <pawel@...>
 

Hi Mohammad,
Thanks for your reply. Thinking about the first issue with the intelisense...
Since we are overwriting the control, can't we use the value of the
suggested completion and use NVDA's speech / braille functions to say
it / display it?

I think, we could also file a bug report to Microsoft and describe the
issue behind it.

Greetings,
Pawel

On 5/2/16, mohammad suliman <mohmad.s93@gmail.com> wrote:
hello,
actually, writing an app module for visual studio is on my to do list.
regarding the problems you mentioned with Intelisense:
don't know if most users will find it better without announcing the
positional info of each possible completion menu item. the problem here
also is not NVDA, the problem is how the list / menu item is exposed.
the name of the menu item includes that positional info.
regarding second problem: yes, i think that it is better for us all to
not have that lengthy announcement after the completion list is closed.

best,
Mohammad
On 4/30/2016 4:31 PM, Jacob Kruger wrote:
Ok, think have fixed those/the relevant errors - was my own mistake
since used a regular expression search/replace to strip out line
numbers when copied python script source from the gitHub page, but,
think have now fixed all the missing number values on line endings.

Still not rendering too much to me - file menu, new, project, and it
tells me it's the new project window, but, doesn't render any of the
internal controls in it.

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's closet..."

On 2016-04-30 2:51 PM, Jacob Kruger wrote:
Syntax error on line 63 of devenv.py:
#start of snippet
VsVersion_None =
VsVersion_2002 =
VsVersion_2003 =
VsVersion_2005 =
VsVersion_2008 =
#end of snippet

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's closet..."

On 2016-04-30 12:52 PM, Pawel Urbanski wrote:
Will check the logs. Do you think you could find a while and as the
last thing copy and paste the errors in this thread?

On 4/30/16, Jacob Kruger <jacob@blindza.co.za> wrote:
Ok, if look in the NVDA log, it's still throwing up errors, so seems
there might be an issue with how extracted source for the devenv.py
file
to place in that path.

So, sorry, NVDA is still not rendering much to me in terms of VS.Net
2015, so can't help with anything relating to intellisense, etc.

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's closet..."

On 2016-04-30 12:17 PM, Pawel Urbanski wrote:
Sounds like a good place. Telling it off the top of my head. Cannot
check it on the machine I am writing now.
But, getting back to my oryginal problem: how can we turn off reading
item possition in the Intelisense popup? And then hearing all th
etime
the window title when we leave the popup after picking the function /
whatever object...?

On 4/30/16, Jacob Kruger <jacob@blindza.co.za> wrote:
Ok, extracted python source.

Do I just place devenv.py in the following path?

c:\users\userName\appData\roaming\nvda\appModules

Thanks in advance

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's
closet..."

On 2016-04-30 11:36 AM, Pawel Urbanski wrote:
Hi Jacob,
The add-on is hosted at Github at the following URL:
https://github.com/ckundo/nvda/blob/master/source/appModules/devenv.py




The devenv.py is invluded by default with NVDA.

The new project wizard is quite OK ofr me. I am using Windows 10
64-bit. Or maybe I am skipping some elements without knowing
they are
on the screen since NVDA is not getting them either.

I like VS for the Intelisense support, which is very convinient in
comparason to Eclipse. You just start typing and get the list of
suggestions without dancing by pressing Control+Space as it happens
with Eclipse.

On 4/30/16, Jacob Kruger <jacob@blindza.co.za> wrote:
What is this VS 2015 add-on referred to, or is it just included as
part
of NVDA itself?

Asking since also, at times, play around with VS.Net 2015
community
edition, but, for example, the new project dialogue doesn't
seem to
get
read/rendered by NVDA 2016.1 at the moment, and NVDA doesn't
always
want
to react to rest of environment either?

TIA

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's
closet..."

On 2016-04-30 9:37 AM, Pawel Urbanski wrote:
Dear Group,
I am currently working using Visual Studio 2015 - the latest
update.
Since Microsoft introduced the Visual Studio Community edition,
which
used to be Professional edition, we got a very nice IDE.
There is an NVDA add-on, which is installed by default that
enhances
NVDA and VS interoperability.
The features are rather complete, but I found 2 issues:
1. When Intelisense with code suggestions popup is read, NVDA
keeps
reading the number of items in a edit combo / list, which can get
very
annoying / flustrating.
--- What is the way using code to silence reading this attribute?
NVDA
has the opption of not reading item possition information. Can we
apply it to individual controls?

2. When leaving the previously mentioned Intelisense popup, NVDA
keeps
reading the window type / title, which is way too verbose when
you
are
coding and keep jumping from the editor to Intelisense all the
time.
--- Can we control this from the add-on code?

I am not familiar with Python on the daily basis, but can find
someone
to fix the code or do it myself if the changes are minor and can
simply follow the documentation and do little trial and error.

Thanks for any hints and tips,
Pawel



























Re: Visual Studio add-on.

mohammad suliman
 

hello,
actually, writing an app module for visual studio is on my to do list.
regarding the problems you mentioned with Intelisense:
don't know if most users will find it better without announcing the positional info of each possible completion menu item. the problem here also is not NVDA, the problem is how the list / menu item is exposed. the name of the menu item includes that positional info.
regarding second problem: yes, i think that it is better for us all to not have that lengthy announcement after the completion list is closed.

best,
Mohammad

On 4/30/2016 4:31 PM, Jacob Kruger wrote:
Ok, think have fixed those/the relevant errors - was my own mistake since used a regular expression search/replace to strip out line numbers when copied python script source from the gitHub page, but, think have now fixed all the missing number values on line endings.

Still not rendering too much to me - file menu, new, project, and it tells me it's the new project window, but, doesn't render any of the internal controls in it.

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's closet..."

On 2016-04-30 2:51 PM, Jacob Kruger wrote:
Syntax error on line 63 of devenv.py:
#start of snippet
VsVersion_None =
VsVersion_2002 =
VsVersion_2003 =
VsVersion_2005 =
VsVersion_2008 =
#end of snippet

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's closet..."

On 2016-04-30 12:52 PM, Pawel Urbanski wrote:
Will check the logs. Do you think you could find a while and as the
last thing copy and paste the errors in this thread?

On 4/30/16, Jacob Kruger <jacob@blindza.co.za> wrote:
Ok, if look in the NVDA log, it's still throwing up errors, so seems
there might be an issue with how extracted source for the devenv.py file
to place in that path.

So, sorry, NVDA is still not rendering much to me in terms of VS.Net
2015, so can't help with anything relating to intellisense, etc.

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's closet..."

On 2016-04-30 12:17 PM, Pawel Urbanski wrote:
Sounds like a good place. Telling it off the top of my head. Cannot
check it on the machine I am writing now.
But, getting back to my oryginal problem: how can we turn off reading
item possition in the Intelisense popup? And then hearing all th etime
the window title when we leave the popup after picking the function /
whatever object...?

On 4/30/16, Jacob Kruger <jacob@blindza.co.za> wrote:
Ok, extracted python source.

Do I just place devenv.py in the following path?

c:\users\userName\appData\roaming\nvda\appModules

Thanks in advance

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's closet..."

On 2016-04-30 11:36 AM, Pawel Urbanski wrote:
Hi Jacob,
The add-on is hosted at Github at the following URL:
https://github.com/ckundo/nvda/blob/master/source/appModules/devenv.py


The devenv.py is invluded by default with NVDA.

The new project wizard is quite OK ofr me. I am using Windows 10
64-bit. Or maybe I am skipping some elements without knowing they are
on the screen since NVDA is not getting them either.

I like VS for the Intelisense support, which is very convinient in
comparason to Eclipse. You just start typing and get the list of
suggestions without dancing by pressing Control+Space as it happens
with Eclipse.

On 4/30/16, Jacob Kruger <jacob@blindza.co.za> wrote:
What is this VS 2015 add-on referred to, or is it just included as
part
of NVDA itself?

Asking since also, at times, play around with VS.Net 2015 community
edition, but, for example, the new project dialogue doesn't seem to
get
read/rendered by NVDA 2016.1 at the moment, and NVDA doesn't always
want
to react to rest of environment either?

TIA

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's
closet..."

On 2016-04-30 9:37 AM, Pawel Urbanski wrote:
Dear Group,
I am currently working using Visual Studio 2015 - the latest
update.
Since Microsoft introduced the Visual Studio Community edition,
which
used to be Professional edition, we got a very nice IDE.
There is an NVDA add-on, which is installed by default that
enhances
NVDA and VS interoperability.
The features are rather complete, but I found 2 issues:
1. When Intelisense with code suggestions popup is read, NVDA keeps
reading the number of items in a edit combo / list, which can get
very
annoying / flustrating.
--- What is the way using code to silence reading this attribute?
NVDA
has the opption of not reading item possition information. Can we
apply it to individual controls?

2. When leaving the previously mentioned Intelisense popup, NVDA
keeps
reading the window type / title, which is way too verbose when you
are
coding and keep jumping from the editor to Intelisense all the
time.
--- Can we control this from the add-on code?

I am not familiar with Python on the daily basis, but can find
someone
to fix the code or do it myself if the changes are minor and can
simply follow the documentation and do little trial and error.

Thanks for any hints and tips,
Pawel























Re: NVDA and tab

David Moore
 

I have never had this problem in Firefox or Google Chrome.
 
 

Sent: Sunday, May 1, 2016 10:01 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and tab
 
Wow! I use Firefox, and I don't think I've ever had this problem.
 
 
Thanks,
Ari

On May 1, 2016, at 1:26 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

But the problem here is that when you are in the proper part of the Window and have opened a page, you have to tab once at times to be able to move in and read the page.  I haven't paid much attention to this.  In my case, using firefox, it is a problem that occurs off and on but that doesn't occur nearly every time I load a page.  I believe I've seen the same problem when using Google, though I don't use google much. 
 
I haven't tested to see if the problem exists in other screen-readers.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2016 2:19 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and tab
 
I generally use ctrl + F6 keystroke to focus on webpage contents after
typing in an address, etc. - think this works in both IE11 and firefox.

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's closet..."

On 2016-05-01 9:08 PM, Nevzat Adil wrote:
> Hello all,
> I encounter an issue when trying to get on to the Internet which I am
> not sure whether it is n NVDA issue or something else.
> For instance, when I try to get to my home page, google, the page does
> not seem to load and read by NVDA unless I press tab. It is only then
> that NVDA begins reading the page. The same issue occurs when trying
> to get onto other pages, as well.
> My operating system is Windows 10 64 bit. NVDA is the most recent.
> I would appreciate your comments.
> Nevzat
>
>



Re: NVDA and tab

Arianna Sepulveda
 

Wow! I use Firefox, and I don't think I've ever had this problem.


Thanks,
Ari

On May 1, 2016, at 1:26 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

But the problem here is that when you are in the proper part of the Window and have opened a page, you have to tab once at times to be able to move in and read the page.  I haven't paid much attention to this.  In my case, using firefox, it is a problem that occurs off and on but that doesn't occur nearly every time I load a page.  I believe I've seen the same problem when using Google, though I don't use google much. 
 
I haven't tested to see if the problem exists in other screen-readers.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2016 2:19 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and tab

I generally use ctrl + F6 keystroke to focus on webpage contents after
typing in an address, etc. - think this works in both IE11 and firefox.

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's closet..."

On 2016-05-01 9:08 PM, Nevzat Adil wrote:
> Hello all,
> I encounter an issue when trying to get on to the Internet which I am
> not sure whether it is n NVDA issue or something else.
> For instance, when I try to get to my home page, google, the page does
> not seem to load and read by NVDA unless I press tab. It is only then
> that NVDA begins reading the page. The same issue occurs when trying
> to get onto other pages, as well.
> My operating system is Windows 10 64 bit. NVDA is the most recent.
> I would appreciate your comments.
> Nevzat
>
>



Re: NVDACon 2016: Tenth Anniversary Keynote (NV Access) recording now available!

Scott VanDeWalle
 

Hello everyone.

I'd like to wish nvda a very happy 10th birthday.
Even though I missed the last weekend of nvda con, I am still supportive of nvda and I hope it will live on for many many years, if not forever.

Also i will download the keynote to listen to offline.
I've only begun  using nvda on a pretty regular basis this past year, 2015.
Anyway, again, happy birthday to nvda and may nvda and the nvda community live on.
Cheers

Scott V

twitter id:
@computerguy1969


On 5/1/2016 9:04 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Dear members of the NVDA and Python community, blindness community, mainstream community, NVDA supporters around the world and others:

 

First, thank you very much for making NVDACon 2016/Tenth Anniversary Edition a huge success. Words cannot describe how grateful the organizers are at seeing such a turnout at NVDACon events, especially the Keynote presentation from NV Access (almost 60 participants showed up via various means).

 

As the highlight of NVDACon, here is the complete Keynote archive package:

 

·         Complete/live recording (mp3): http://www.nvda-kr.org/files/NVDACon_2016_Keynote%20(complete).mp3

·         NVDA: A Global Movement promo: http://www.nvda-kr.org/files/NVDASR%20movement%20promo.mp3

·         Keynote presentation session including the actual speech and question and answer session: http://www.nvda-kr.org/files/NVDACon_2016_Keynote%20(session).mp3

·         Letter of thanks from NVDA community: http://www.nvda-kr.org/files/NVDACon_2016_Keynote%20(Community%20Letter).mp3

·         Above three files compressed (zip): http://www.nvda-kr.org/files/NVDACon_2016_Keynote.zip

 

For those who couldn’t come to the actual session, some online radio stations will broadcast the speech portion of the Keynote session.

 

Once again, thanks for your continued support for NVDA. Without you, NVDA, NV Access and NVDACon would not have existed. Thank you.

Sincerely,

Joseph S. Lee

Department of Communication Studies (student), Los Angeles City College

Former student of computer science, University of California, Riverside

Translator (Korean), code contributor and community add-ons reviewer, NVDA screen reader project

Chair, NVDA Tenth Anniversary Planning Committee

Chief organizer, International NVDA Users and Developers Conference (February 2014 to April 2016)

Lead organizer, NVDACon Korea (February 2013 to present)

Organization advisor, NVDACon US (May 2016 to present)

 



Re: NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is

Gene
 

I didn't keep Rob's last message but I realized that I have a reply. 
 
there is evidence in Sharni-lee's messages suggesting that the crash she is experiencing may have different causes and/or different effects.  We don't know enough details to conclude what the situation is.  She stated that her mother operated the computer after the crash.  If she just used a mouse, that might still mean that most of the keyboard is frozen.  But experimentation should be done by trying to use my method when the next crash occurs.  We need to verify, and not assume, that the crash has the same effects.  At this time, we don't know.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2016 8:29 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is

Why wouldn't my workaround accomplish the same end but more easily.  I don't know this, but I expect that Narrator can be run.  If so, you should be able to stay in the same account and use task manager with Narrator to close NVDA.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Rob
Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2016 8:13 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is

Sharni-Lee Ward <sharni-lee.ward@...> wrote:
> NVDA completely stops working. It says nothing. The Braille display's
> display remains frozen on whatever was last spoken.
There is a way to get around this, but it is kind of a pain. Here is how.
1. Create another user account on your computer and give it admin  rights.
2. The problem with the freeze is caused by LibLouis, not your braille
display; it would freeze upno matter what display you have.
3. Next time it freezes, press windows+l
4. Press alt+w for switch user
5. Hit right arrow to land on the user you created
6. Press enter and type its password
7. Press control+shift+delete to land in task manager. Do not start NVDA,
because it might freeze again.
8. Hit control+tab to land in the processes list
9. Type the letters nv to land on the nvda.exe process. Press alt+e, alt+y
to terminate it.
10. Press windows+l, alt+w to return to your previous windows session. Your
user should be the first one in the list; press enter on it and type your
password.
11. Restart NVDA. if it freezes once more, repeat the previous steps. It
will not always freeze. This is a random event.
12. Once NVDA has successfully started, go into The NVDA menu with NVDA+n
13. Go to braille settings by pressing the letters p and r. Select no
braille and press enter.
14. Go back into the NVDA menu and press s for save configuration.
15. Return, once more, to the NVDA menu and press p for preferences and then
enter on general settings. Untick the box that says "save configuration on
exit."
16. Now, when you start NVDA, you will have no braille. You will have to
select your Focus 40 manually on each start. NVDA will not usually freeze if
you select a display while it is running. It has always been the case--for
me, anyway--that it freezes during startup and a braille display is
automatically selected.
I hope this helps.




Re: NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is

Rob
 

Tyler Spivey <tspivey@pcdesk.net> wrote:
I was under the impression that upgrading to the latest master snapshot
would fix it.
The original poster might not want to try new code. The master snapshot does indeed fix it, though.


Re: NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is

Tyler Spivey
 

I was under the impression that upgrading to the latest master snapshot
would fix it. Does it not?

On 5/1/2016 6:30 PM, Rob wrote:
Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
Why wouldn't my workaround accomplish the same end but more easily.
Because most of the keyboard is frozen when this freeze happens. The only thing that works is the windows key and some function keys.



Re: NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is

Rob
 

Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
Why wouldn't my workaround accomplish the same end but more easily.
Because most of the keyboard is frozen when this freeze happens. The only thing that works is the windows key and some function keys.


Re: NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is

Gene
 

Why wouldn't my workaround accomplish the same end but more easily.  I don't know this, but I expect that Narrator can be run.  If so, you should be able to stay in the same account and use task manager with Narrator to close NVDA.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Rob
Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2016 8:13 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is

Sharni-Lee Ward <sharni-lee.ward@...> wrote:
> NVDA completely stops working. It says nothing. The Braille display's
> display remains frozen on whatever was last spoken.
There is a way to get around this, but it is kind of a pain. Here is how.
1. Create another user account on your computer and give it admin  rights.
2. The problem with the freeze is caused by LibLouis, not your braille
display; it would freeze upno matter what display you have.
3. Next time it freezes, press windows+l
4. Press alt+w for switch user
5. Hit right arrow to land on the user you created
6. Press enter and type its password
7. Press control+shift+delete to land in task manager. Do not start NVDA,
because it might freeze again.
8. Hit control+tab to land in the processes list
9. Type the letters nv to land on the nvda.exe process. Press alt+e, alt+y
to terminate it.
10. Press windows+l, alt+w to return to your previous windows session. Your
user should be the first one in the list; press enter on it and type your
password.
11. Restart NVDA. if it freezes once more, repeat the previous steps. It
will not always freeze. This is a random event.
12. Once NVDA has successfully started, go into The NVDA menu with NVDA+n
13. Go to braille settings by pressing the letters p and r. Select no
braille and press enter.
14. Go back into the NVDA menu and press s for save configuration.
15. Return, once more, to the NVDA menu and press p for preferences and then
enter on general settings. Untick the box that says "save configuration on
exit."
16. Now, when you start NVDA, you will have no braille. You will have to
select your Focus 40 manually on each start. NVDA will not usually freeze if
you select a display while it is running. It has always been the case--for
me, anyway--that it freezes during startup and a braille display is
automatically selected.
I hope this helps.




Re: NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is

Helga Schreiber
 

Hi, This is Helga. How are you? I use  JAWS my friend! And I heard that the Focus 40 Blue braille display only works with JAWS 11 and newer.  Do you have JAWS? Have you tried testing your display with JAWS besides NVDA? I'm still learning in working NVDA but JAWS can help as well! Hope to hear form you soon! Perhaps there is a way to make you rdisplay work with NVDA. But i don't know that yet!  Thanks and God bless!

Helga Schreiber 

Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind Students.
Member of the International Networkers Team (INT).
Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research.
Phone:  (561) 706-5950 
Skype: helga.schreiber26 
INT Website: http://int4life.com/ 

"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 
Sent from my iPhone 6S running IOS 9.3.1    

On May 1, 2016, at 7:00 PM, Sharni-Lee Ward <sharni-lee.ward@...> wrote:

It just happened again, again while I was writing. My mother came to
help me again and tried to save my work. Word wouldn't respond. She
tried to exit NVDA mannually, but it wouldn't allow her to do that. She
scanned NVDA with Microsoft Security Essentials but nothing came up. I'm
now using the computer without my Braille Display. I don't understand
why it's doing this to me, but I can't think of any other culprit. It's
brand new. We bought it in February and I've barely used it, partly
because of this issue and partly because of the MUD I've been playing.
But I've had it plugged into my computer via USB almost constantly since
I got it and installed the driver. The computer usually starts up with
it plugged in.


Please, someone, help! I want to solve this problem as soon as possible!
I've had about enough of this and I don't want to sacrifice my Braille
Display just because this is happening!


On 2/05/2016 7:10 AM, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote:
I've mentioned this before, but it's been weeks and I don't know if I
got any more useful help after Joseph said to submit a log entry. Which
given the nature of my problem, I doubt would work.


Since I got my Braille Display in February, NVDA has frozen with
alarming regularity. It hasn't been like previous experiences of the
phenomenon either. I used to occasionally have NVDA freeze, but I could
restart the screen reader with alt+ctrl+n. With this situation, I can't.
NVDA completely stops working. It says nothing. The Braille display's
display remains frozen on whatever was last spoken. I can't restart
NVDA, and sometimes can't even shut down the computer without sighted
help. That's the only way to get things working again—shut down and
restart the computer. I used to only experience this soon after startup,
especially when I tried to activate the snapshot with the experimental
UEB table in it, but now I'm having it happen after the computer's been
going for a while, and it happens on both the normal installation and
the brltbl snapshot. Just now, I had it happen while I was writing in a
document. I was typing merrily away when NVDA stopped reporting letters
and the Braille Display, when I checked it, was only displaying the
first two words I'd typed on that line.


This is getting seriously annoying both for me and my mother, who is my
carer. I don't know what's causing this problem but I have a horrible
feeling it's to do with my Focus 40 Blue, as it didn't happen before I
got it. Can anyone shed some light on this? I want it to stop so my
writing and other activities don't keep getting interrupted.