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Re: attempting to instal the google hangouts plugin to firefox

Pete <emac00@...>
 

 
  the plugin installed easy, I had difficulty installing the desktop app for hang outs.  there was a link to it and when I clicked on that one it took me to the plugin installer. 
  Apparently google needs some work on there links or titles of links. 
  Do you have the desktop app for google handouts? 
 

On 3/30/2016 7:30 AM, Kevin Chao wrote:
Tip was for those who had difficulty installing plugin
On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 3:34 AM Pete <emac00@...> wrote:
 
  I could, for what reason? 
  I disabled shockwave flash and adobe plugins because of the lowed flash things that would come up on some pages.  I have google update always activate and google talk and google video ask to activate.  If I can't have access to it I don't want it running or activating. 
  Pete 
 

On 3/29/2016 8:37 PM, Kevin Chao wrote:
Could you open about:addons then go to the plugins tab, then switch the dropdowns for all the Google plugins to "Always Activate"?
On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 7:50 AM Pete <emac00@...> wrote:
 
  Hi  every one 
 
  This might help:
 
10 Tricks To Master Google Hangouts Lifehacker Australia
 
  Pete 
 




Re: help via skype with nvda?

Lino Morales
 

Hank do a search on
www.coolblindtech.com
I can't remember the dude's name, but he did a podcast last year I think about the object nav. He did a good job explaining it.

On 3/30/2016 1:36 AM, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona wrote:
there is nothing wrong with them its getting my head around the hole concept of the object navigation.
its really hard to describe
hents why I am wanting help
thanks
Hank

On 3/29/2016 9:53 PM, Afrim wrote:
What's wrong with them? They are well explained.
I also want to switch to NVDA completely, but there are still some problems that prevent me to go for it.

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 30, 2016, at 1:36 AM, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona <hank.smith966@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello can some one help me via skype with some nvda commands?
I read the tutorial and I am really really having trouble grasping the object navigation commands and the way object navigation works.
the I did re listen to the tutorial on the objects and navigating them but I still can't seem to grasp it.
really really want to go to nvda intirely but I need some help with the object navigation
my skype is
hank.smith88
thanks
Hank




Re: FW: Chrome updates

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Thanks, Jeffrey,

That does the trick!


All the best,

Cearbhall

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From: Jeffrey Shockley [mailto:jawswizard@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 4:04 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] FW: Chrome updates

Hi,
When trying to read the About screen, quitting and relaunching NVDA will let
you see it. This is also the page where you update Chrome. Just look under
where it has the version listed, and it will tell you whether it is updating
or is up to date.
Hope this helps,
Jeffrey
On Mar 30, 2016, at 11:00 AM, Cearbhall O'Meadhra
<cearbhall.omeadhra@blbc.ie> wrote:

David,

As you are so familiar with Chrome, I wonder if you can tell me how to
check the latest version and whether my copy is fully updated? I tried to
read the !About! screen using NVDA 2016.1 but the screen just appears blank.


All the best,

Cearbhall

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From: Ronan McGuirk [mailto:ronan.p.mcguirk@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 2:49 PM
To: Cearbhall O'Meadhra
Subject: Re: Chrome tutorial

Hi Cearbhall,

Many thanks for the tutorial. I have now removed it from the Open Office
folder.
I am now experimenting with Chrome. I am sending you this mail from the
gmail basic html system in Google Chrome. It seems pretty good so far.

Incidentally, do you know how to check the current version of Google
Chrome? Does it update automatically? I am just wondering how it is
accessible now and did not seem to be when I installed it.

Best regards,
Ronan
Ronan

On 29/03/2016, Cearbhall O'Meadhra <cearbhall.omeadhra@blbc.ie> wrote:
Ronan,

As your message landnd in my junk oflder I am just sending you this
reminder that I have placed the tutorial in DropBox Open Office
folder. I hope you still share it!


All the best,

Cearbhall

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e:
cearbhall.omeadhra@blbc.ie




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From: Ronan McGuirk [mailto:ronan.p.mcguirk@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 8:48 PM
To: cearbhall.omeadhra@blbc.ie
Subject: Chrome

Hi Cearbhall,
I tried Chrome and to my surprise, it worked .

Would you have a copy of the tutorial you mentioned?

Many thanks,
Ronan




Re: Google+, Photos, and One Today

Kevin Chao
 

Excellent! Great to hear...Thanks for sharing!
Have you tried other two?

On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 1:19 AM Nimer Jaber <nimerjaber1@...> wrote:
Hi,

I use Google Plus both on PC and on my phone and find the experience amazing!! It is very accessible!


On 28-Mar-16 23:05, Kevin Chao wrote:

Hi,

Curious if NVDA users have tried/used following web apps, and how do you feel about the accessibility user experience?

Thanks!



Re: FW: Chrome updates

Kevin Chao
 

Updates automagically. In Omnibar, type: chrome://version

On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 8:04 AM Jeffrey Shockley <jawswizard@...> wrote:
Hi,
When trying to read the About screen, quitting and relaunching NVDA will let you see it. This is also the page where you update Chrome. Just look under where it has the version listed, and it will tell you whether it is updating or is up to date.
Hope this helps,
Jeffrey
> On Mar 30, 2016, at 11:00 AM, Cearbhall O'Meadhra <cearbhall.omeadhra@...> wrote:
>
> David,
>
> As you are so familiar with Chrome, I wonder if you can tell me how to check the latest version and whether my copy is fully updated? I tried to read the !About! screen using NVDA 2016.1 but the screen just appears blank.
>
>
> All the best,
>
> Cearbhall
>
> m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...
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> Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 2:49 PM
> To: Cearbhall O'Meadhra
> Subject: Re: Chrome tutorial
>
> Hi Cearbhall,
>
> Many thanks for the tutorial. I have now removed it from the Open Office folder.
> I am now experimenting with Chrome. I am sending you this mail from the gmail basic html  system in Google Chrome. It seems pretty good so far.
>
> Incidentally, do you know how to check the current version of Google Chrome? Does it update automatically?  I am just wondering how it is accessible now and did not seem to be when I installed it.
>
> Best regards,
> Ronan
> Ronan
>
> On 29/03/2016, Cearbhall O'Meadhra <cearbhall.omeadhra@...> wrote:
>> Ronan,
>>
>> As your message landnd in my junk oflder I am just sending you this
>> reminder that I have placed the tutorial in DropBox Open Office
>> folder. I hope you still share it!
>>
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> Cearbhall
>>
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>> Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 8:48 PM
>> To: cearbhall.omeadhra@...
>> Subject: Chrome
>>
>> Hi Cearbhall,
>> I tried Chrome and to my surprise, it worked  .
>>
>> Would you have a copy of the tutorial you mentioned?
>>
>> Many thanks,
>> Ronan
>>
>>
>
>
>
>





Re: FW: Chrome updates

Jeffrey Shockley
 

Hi,
When trying to read the About screen, quitting and relaunching NVDA will let you see it. This is also the page where you update Chrome. Just look under where it has the version listed, and it will tell you whether it is updating or is up to date.
Hope this helps,
Jeffrey

On Mar 30, 2016, at 11:00 AM, Cearbhall O'Meadhra <cearbhall.omeadhra@blbc.ie> wrote:

David,

As you are so familiar with Chrome, I wonder if you can tell me how to check the latest version and whether my copy is fully updated? I tried to read the !About! screen using NVDA 2016.1 but the screen just appears blank.


All the best,

Cearbhall

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@blbc.ie




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From: Ronan McGuirk [mailto:ronan.p.mcguirk@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 2:49 PM
To: Cearbhall O'Meadhra
Subject: Re: Chrome tutorial

Hi Cearbhall,

Many thanks for the tutorial. I have now removed it from the Open Office folder.
I am now experimenting with Chrome. I am sending you this mail from the gmail basic html system in Google Chrome. It seems pretty good so far.

Incidentally, do you know how to check the current version of Google Chrome? Does it update automatically? I am just wondering how it is accessible now and did not seem to be when I installed it.

Best regards,
Ronan
Ronan

On 29/03/2016, Cearbhall O'Meadhra <cearbhall.omeadhra@blbc.ie> wrote:
Ronan,

As your message landnd in my junk oflder I am just sending you this
reminder that I have placed the tutorial in DropBox Open Office
folder. I hope you still share it!


All the best,

Cearbhall

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e:
cearbhall.omeadhra@blbc.ie




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From: Ronan McGuirk [mailto:ronan.p.mcguirk@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 8:48 PM
To: cearbhall.omeadhra@blbc.ie
Subject: Chrome

Hi Cearbhall,
I tried Chrome and to my surprise, it worked .

Would you have a copy of the tutorial you mentioned?

Many thanks,
Ronan




FW: Chrome updates

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

David,

As you are so familiar with Chrome, I wonder if you can tell me how to check the latest version and whether my copy is fully updated? I tried to read the !About! screen using NVDA 2016.1 but the screen just appears blank.


All the best,

Cearbhall

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@blbc.ie




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-----Original Message-----
From: Ronan McGuirk [mailto:ronan.p.mcguirk@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 2:49 PM
To: Cearbhall O'Meadhra
Subject: Re: Chrome tutorial

Hi Cearbhall,

Many thanks for the tutorial. I have now removed it from the Open Office folder.
I am now experimenting with Chrome. I am sending you this mail from the gmail basic html system in Google Chrome. It seems pretty good so far.

Incidentally, do you know how to check the current version of Google Chrome? Does it update automatically? I am just wondering how it is accessible now and did not seem to be when I installed it.

Best regards,
Ronan
Ronan

On 29/03/2016, Cearbhall O'Meadhra <cearbhall.omeadhra@blbc.ie> wrote:
Ronan,

As your message landnd in my junk oflder I am just sending you this
reminder that I have placed the tutorial in DropBox Open Office
folder. I hope you still share it!


All the best,

Cearbhall

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e:
cearbhall.omeadhra@blbc.ie




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From: Ronan McGuirk [mailto:ronan.p.mcguirk@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 8:48 PM
To: cearbhall.omeadhra@blbc.ie
Subject: Chrome

Hi Cearbhall,
I tried Chrome and to my surprise, it worked .

Would you have a copy of the tutorial you mentioned?

Many thanks,
Ronan


Re: prevent pages from refreshing

 

No problem at all. I hope you enjoy.

On 3/29/2016 1:14 PM, Mallard wrote:
Hey Governor,

Independent of refresh, thanks for sharing this page... Very interesting!
Ciao,
Ollie




Il 29/03/2016 17:21, Governor staten ha scritto:
An example of a page that refeshes is www.jewishmusicstream.com. It's
crazy.




On 3/29/2016 10:44 AM, Pete wrote:
I am not sure why and how either. Some of the building supply
stores do some thing similar just not as fast of a refresh.
Pete


On 3/27/2016 7:24 PM, Lino Morales wrote:
That's exactly what I mean Pete. I'm not geek so I can't explain what
this is to the DEV's.

On 3/27/2016 8:26 AM, Pete wrote:
I know this happens, I haven't come across it for some time now.
What you are talking about is
you will be reading a block of text and you will only get a few
seconds to read it before the page refreshes and every thing goes
wonky.
rite?
I think if we could all work on a consistent description of what
exactly the problem is it would be easier for the dev people to nail
it down.
Pete

On 3/26/2016 4:43 PM, Mallard wrote:
Now then,

The issue exists, because there are forums discussing it for devs.
They call the thing "Carousels" or "slideshows", or something else
that I can't remember now.

I provided an example of a site

www.esselungaacasa.it

But I'm afraid you ahve to log in with username and password to see
that particular area of the sit.
Actually, "that particular area" is supposed to be in the
Accessible section of the site, and it's the whole Supermarket
area...

Firefox 45.0.1, Latest NvDA Next Snapshot, Espeak, Freedom
Scientific's pm 40 3.70 braille display.
Ollie




Il 26/03/2016 20:36, Lino Morales ha scritto:
Kevin here is one. If any of you are fans of Rick Dees and the
Weekly Top 40 his site refreshes a lot.
www.rick.com

On 3/26/2016 3:34 PM, Kevin Chao wrote:
Can someone please provide examples of thes type of sites?

On Sat, Mar 26, 2016 at 12:30 PM Arno Schuh
<arno.schuh@in-trier.de> wrote:

Hi,

Am Samstag, 26. März 2016 17:40 schrieb Gene
<gsasner@ripco.com>:

> Are you referring to the setting concerning metarefresh in
Internet
> Explorer?

That's the option. But it is pretty cumbersome to activate
and
deactivate
this option anytime you came across such a site.
In Cobra you simply press letter s to freeze the site, and
simply
press
letter s again to set it free again.
And of course it is no solution to keep the metarefresh
option
deactivated,
because if so some sites don't work properly; i. e. you can't
log
in some
site, can't select list items in a list etc.

So a simple feature like in Cobra would be pretty helpful
when
you came
across such a site.

Yours sincerely

Arno















How to better use Mp3Gain with NVDA?

Gerardo Corripio
 

Hi listers
Any alternatives or tips you guys have found, to be able to, especially see the results of the volume levels with the MP3Gain program? Mp3Gain for those who might not know, is to lower/raise the volume of mP3 files, and which I use a lot! thus if maybe someone out there could develop an AddOn to better be able to use Mp3Gain, especially for reading the volume results, to determine afterwards if one lowers or raises the file's volume, would be great!

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Saludos desde Tampico, Tamaulipas México


Re: Saving application settings

afrim maja <afrim.maja@...>
 

Thank you, I will have a look at the audio tutorial

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 30, 2016, at 11:12 AM, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:

Hi

I just looked I don't see a written one or can not find one. I thought I had written one and uploaded it a while back.

The audio one should get you up and running though. Tonight I wrote up how to do or how to make a configuration profile with NVDA. It is more on how to do it and is application triggered when you go into that application. For example microsoft word. It also covers deleting out that profile and is on what I use all of the time.

It needs tidying up but hopefully is basic enough to follow to make a configuration profile.
Just let me know if you are interested and I can send to you.
if i ca not find any reference to one on my website in a written format once tidied up it will be uploaded to my website.
It does not cover the say all part to trigger it or manual part.
 
Gene nz


On 30-Mar-16 5:56 PM, Afrim wrote:
I will definitely have a look at them

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 30, 2016, at 3:11 AM, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:

Hi

I do have a audio tutorial on my nvda audio tutorials page called How to create different configuration profiles using NVDA

I only covered using a application to trigger different profiles in NVDA

Joseph done one that covered more like say all and there was one other, that I forget, but the one I did would be more well used.
The link to this page is http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20audio%20tutorials.html
It covers setting up 4 profiles. I can not remember if there is a written one also I would have to check.

Gene nz


On 28-Mar-16 1:49 AM, sarabrennan@... wrote:

Does anyone know how to save application settings in NVDA. I find the manual a bit confusing when it comes to this...I believe a profile needs to be created and I would like that it be triggered by a specific application but when do I choose the settings & save?


Thanks


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Re: prevent pages from refreshing

Gene
 

I don't know and someone else may discuss it.
 
Gene
----- Original

Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 5:16 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] prevent pages from refreshing

Thanks for that. Now! have you any idea as to why the Adobe flash plugin crashes on the BBC website. The plugin is up-to-date and doesn’t crash on any other radio station site that I listen to which uses flash.
 
From: Gene
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 8:13 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] prevent pages from refreshing
 
That could be the same feature in Firefox that causes files to play if they are podcasts instead of offering you the download option but I'm not sure.  This may not help but in Firefox, if you right click the link, there is an item that says copy link location.  It will place the link in the clipboard.  Other browsers may have the same item though the wording may be different. 
If it is a direct link to the actual stream, you can try using it in Winamp.  Do you know the command in Winamp for open URL. It's shift l.
 
Gene
 
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 1:49 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] prevent pages from refreshing
 
I know the site in question is using flash, but what I am refering to is where there is a link to an mp3 stream, rather than a download, it plays in the firefox player. I can’t recall in which version of firefox this changed, but everything that was not flash used to play in winamp which is my player of choice.
 
From: Gene
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 7:00 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] prevent pages from refreshing
 
I'm not sure what you mean.  This is a Flash stream.  It isn't a Firefox player.  You aren't supposed to be able to select a player such as Winamp or some other stand alone player.  The Flash Player is intended by the site to be used.  Flash content is actually originally some other format and if you can find the original link, you may then be able to play it in another player such as Winamp because the original source is not Flash.  But I don't know how many sites you might find such a link for nor what the procedure is to find the original source link.. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 12:48 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] prevent pages from refreshing
 
I went to the link in the original e-mail and using firefox 45.1 it seems to be ok. I wish someone could tell me how I can get audio files to play in my player of choice rather than the firefox player.
 
From: Gene
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 6:43 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] prevent pages from refreshing
 
Chrome won't load the page.  The following message results when I press the details button.  I may try testing the site again with a very recent version of Firefox.
The client and server don't support a common SSL protocol version or cipher suite. This is likely to be caused when the server needs RC4, which is no longer considered secure.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 12:19 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] prevent pages from refreshing
 
The older version of Firefox I used was using Flash.  I'm not sure what the almost current version of Firefox would have used.  I may try the site with Chrome as well but I haven't yet.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 11:17 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] prevent pages from refreshing
 

A question for you. Were you using flash on that page, or their native html5 player? I"m not sure if there is a way, other than uninstalling flash, to get at the html5 player.

 

 


On 3/29/2016 12:07 PM, Gene wrote:
I tested the page in a recent version of firefox and for some reason, on the one test I did, the page didn't load properly.  When I tested it in a much older version of Firefox, the page loaded, a musicc stream played automatically, and I was able to read the stream without loosing my place.  I don't know if anything refreshed on the page.  But I read for perhaps a minute or one and one half minutes without problems.  The question is, why do people report different results.  The answer might be helpful in working on the problem.  Whatever the case, a feature for freezing the page, as has been suggested, might be useful.  Very few list members have commented on their experiences with specific pages that have been sent to the list by members.  It might be useful to have many responses from people testing these pages.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 10:21 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] prevent pages from refreshing
 
An example of a page that refeshes is www.jewishmusicstream.com. It's crazy.




On 3/29/2016 10:44 AM, Pete wrote:
>
>   I am not sure why and how either.  Some of the building supply
> stores do some thing similar just not as fast of a refresh.
>   Pete
>
>
> On 3/27/2016 7:24 PM, Lino Morales wrote:
>> That's exactly what I mean Pete. I'm not geek so I can't explain what
>> this is to the DEV's.
>>
>> On 3/27/2016 8:26 AM, Pete wrote:
>>>
>>>   I know this happens, I haven't come across it for some time now.
>>>   What you are talking about is
>>>   you will be reading a block of text and you will only get a few
>>> seconds to read it before the page refreshes and every thing goes
>>> wonky.
>>>   rite?
>>>   I think if we could all work on a consistent description of what
>>> exactly the problem is it would be easier for the dev people to nail
>>> it down.
>>>   Pete
>>>
>>> On 3/26/2016 4:43 PM, Mallard wrote:
>>>> Now then,
>>>>
>>>> The issue exists, because there are forums discussing it for devs.
>>>> They call the thing "Carousels" or "slideshows", or something else
>>>> that I can't remember now.
>>>>
>>>> I provided an example of a site
>>>>
>>>> www.esselungaacasa.it
>>>>
>>>> But I'm afraid you ahve to log in with username and password to see
>>>> that particular area of the sit.
>>>> Actually, "that particular area" is supposed to be in the
>>>> Accessible section of the site, and it's the whole Supermarket area...
>>>>
>>>> Firefox 45.0.1, Latest NvDA Next Snapshot, Espeak, Freedom
>>>> Scientific's pm 40 3.70 braille display.
>>>> Ollie
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Il 26/03/2016 20:36, Lino Morales ha scritto:
>>>>> Kevin here is one. If any of you are fans of Rick Dees and the
>>>>> Weekly Top 40 his site refreshes a lot.
>>>>> www.rick.com
>>>>>
>>>>> On 3/26/2016 3:34 PM, Kevin Chao wrote:
>>>>>> Can someone please provide examples of thes type of sites?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 26, 2016 at 12:30 PM Arno Schuh
>>>>>> <arno.schuh@...> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Am Samstag, 26. März 2016 17:40 schrieb Gene
>>>>>> <gsasner@...>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     > Are you referring to the setting concerning metarefresh in
>>>>>> Internet
>>>>>>     > Explorer?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     That's the option. But it is pretty cumbersome to activate and
>>>>>>     deactivate
>>>>>>     this option anytime you came across such a site.
>>>>>>     In Cobra you simply press letter s to freeze the site, and
>>>>>> simply
>>>>>>     press
>>>>>>     letter s again to set it free again.
>>>>>>     And of course it is no solution to keep the metarefresh option
>>>>>>     deactivated,
>>>>>>     because if so some sites don't work properly; i. e. you can't
>>>>>> log
>>>>>>     in some
>>>>>>     site, can't select list items in a list etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     So a simple feature like in Cobra would be pretty helpful when
>>>>>>     you came
>>>>>>     across such a site.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Yours sincerely
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Arno
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Re: attempting to instal the google hangouts plugin to firefox

Kevin Chao
 

Tip was for those who had difficulty installing plugin

On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 3:34 AM Pete <emac00@...> wrote:
 
  I could, for what reason? 
  I disabled shockwave flash and adobe plugins because of the lowed flash things that would come up on some pages.  I have google update always activate and google talk and google video ask to activate.  If I can't have access to it I don't want it running or activating. 
  Pete 
 

On 3/29/2016 8:37 PM, Kevin Chao wrote:
Could you open about:addons then go to the plugins tab, then switch the dropdowns for all the Google plugins to "Always Activate"?
On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 7:50 AM Pete <emac00@...> wrote:
 
  Hi  every one 
 
  This might help:
 
10 Tricks To Master Google Hangouts Lifehacker Australia
 
  Pete 
 



Re: help via skype with nvda?

Pete <emac00@...>
 

nvda + keyboard 1 turns on input help and nvda + number pad 1 turns on object review.

On 3/30/2016 4:28 AM, Chris wrote:
try using nvda+1 that may help you :)
puts you into input help mode should explain what each key does

repeat nvda+1 to quit help

good luck


On 30/03/2016 07:27, Bhavya shah wrote:
Hi Hank,
Personally speaking, I might have been able to connect with you via
Skype but I am not exactly sure what I would share or explain to you.
However, as a general recommendation, I would suggest you to uncheck
the 'simple review mode' check box in NVDA's Review Cursor settings
dialog, as in my experience, it makes object navigation much more
meaningful.
Thanks.

On 3/30/16, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona <hank.smith966@gmail.com> wrote:
the tutorials are perfictly fine and I listened and relistened to them
god only knows many times
but I am having trouble under standing how the intire thing works.
if any one can help me via skype it would be really really appreciated
am serius here.
thanks
Hank

On 3/29/2016 9:53 PM, Afrim wrote:
What's wrong with them? They are well explained.
I also want to switch to NVDA completely, but there are still some
problems that prevent me to go for it.

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 30, 2016, at 1:36 AM, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona
<hank.smith966@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello can some one help me via skype with some nvda commands?
I read the tutorial and I am really really having trouble grasping the
object navigation commands and the way object navigation works.
the I did re listen to the tutorial on the objects and navigating them
but I still can't seem to grasp it.
really really want to go to nvda intirely but I need some help with the
object navigation
my skype is
hank.smith88
thanks
Hank







Re: help via skype with nvda?

Pete <emac00@...>
 

Hi Hank
What program are you trying to access using object nav?
Pete

On 3/30/2016 1:41 AM, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona wrote:
the tutorials are perfictly fine and I listened and relistened to them god only knows many times
but I am having trouble under standing how the intire thing works.
if any one can help me via skype it would be really really appreciated
am serius here.
thanks
Hank

On 3/29/2016 9:53 PM, Afrim wrote:
What's wrong with them? They are well explained.
I also want to switch to NVDA completely, but there are still some problems that prevent me to go for it.

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 30, 2016, at 1:36 AM, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona <hank.smith966@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello can some one help me via skype with some nvda commands?
I read the tutorial and I am really really having trouble grasping the object navigation commands and the way object navigation works.
the I did re listen to the tutorial on the objects and navigating them but I still can't seem to grasp it.
really really want to go to nvda intirely but I need some help with the object navigation
my skype is
hank.smith88
thanks
Hank





Re: attempting to instal the google hangouts plugin to firefox

Pete <emac00@...>
 

 
  I could, for what reason? 
  I disabled shockwave flash and adobe plugins because of the lowed flash things that would come up on some pages.  I have google update always activate and google talk and google video ask to activate.  If I can't have access to it I don't want it running or activating. 
  Pete 
 

On 3/29/2016 8:37 PM, Kevin Chao wrote:
Could you open about:addons then go to the plugins tab, then switch the dropdowns for all the Google plugins to "Always Activate"?
On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 7:50 AM Pete <emac00@...> wrote:
 
  Hi  every one 
 
  This might help:
 
10 Tricks To Master Google Hangouts Lifehacker Australia
 
  Pete 
 



Re: prevent pages from refreshing

Peter Beasley
 

Thanks for that. Now! have you any idea as to why the Adobe flash plugin crashes on the BBC website. The plugin is up-to-date and doesn’t crash on any other radio station site that I listen to which uses flash.
 

From: Gene
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 8:13 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] prevent pages from refreshing
 
That could be the same feature in Firefox that causes files to play if they are podcasts instead of offering you the download option but I'm not sure.  This may not help but in Firefox, if you right click the link, there is an item that says copy link location.  It will place the link in the clipboard.  Other browsers may have the same item though the wording may be different. 
If it is a direct link to the actual stream, you can try using it in Winamp.  Do you know the command in Winamp for open URL. It's shift l.
 
Gene
 
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 1:49 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] prevent pages from refreshing
 
I know the site in question is using flash, but what I am refering to is where there is a link to an mp3 stream, rather than a download, it plays in the firefox player. I can’t recall in which version of firefox this changed, but everything that was not flash used to play in winamp which is my player of choice.
 
From: Gene
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 7:00 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] prevent pages from refreshing
 
I'm not sure what you mean.  This is a Flash stream.  It isn't a Firefox player.  You aren't supposed to be able to select a player such as Winamp or some other stand alone player.  The Flash Player is intended by the site to be used.  Flash content is actually originally some other format and if you can find the original link, you may then be able to play it in another player such as Winamp because the original source is not Flash.  But I don't know how many sites you might find such a link for nor what the procedure is to find the original source link.. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 12:48 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] prevent pages from refreshing
 
I went to the link in the original e-mail and using firefox 45.1 it seems to be ok. I wish someone could tell me how I can get audio files to play in my player of choice rather than the firefox player.
 
From: Gene
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 6:43 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] prevent pages from refreshing
 
Chrome won't load the page.  The following message results when I press the details button.  I may try testing the site again with a very recent version of Firefox.
The client and server don't support a common SSL protocol version or cipher suite. This is likely to be caused when the server needs RC4, which is no longer considered secure.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 12:19 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] prevent pages from refreshing
 
The older version of Firefox I used was using Flash.  I'm not sure what the almost current version of Firefox would have used.  I may try the site with Chrome as well but I haven't yet.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 11:17 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] prevent pages from refreshing
 

A question for you. Were you using flash on that page, or their native html5 player? I"m not sure if there is a way, other than uninstalling flash, to get at the html5 player.

 

 


On 3/29/2016 12:07 PM, Gene wrote:
I tested the page in a recent version of firefox and for some reason, on the one test I did, the page didn't load properly.  When I tested it in a much older version of Firefox, the page loaded, a musicc stream played automatically, and I was able to read the stream without loosing my place.  I don't know if anything refreshed on the page.  But I read for perhaps a minute or one and one half minutes without problems.  The question is, why do people report different results.  The answer might be helpful in working on the problem.  Whatever the case, a feature for freezing the page, as has been suggested, might be useful.  Very few list members have commented on their experiences with specific pages that have been sent to the list by members.  It might be useful to have many responses from people testing these pages.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 10:21 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] prevent pages from refreshing
 
An example of a page that refeshes is www.jewishmusicstream.com. It's crazy.




On 3/29/2016 10:44 AM, Pete wrote:
>
>   I am not sure why and how either.  Some of the building supply
> stores do some thing similar just not as fast of a refresh.
>   Pete
>
>
> On 3/27/2016 7:24 PM, Lino Morales wrote:
>> That's exactly what I mean Pete. I'm not geek so I can't explain what
>> this is to the DEV's.
>>
>> On 3/27/2016 8:26 AM, Pete wrote:
>>>
>>>   I know this happens, I haven't come across it for some time now.
>>>   What you are talking about is
>>>   you will be reading a block of text and you will only get a few
>>> seconds to read it before the page refreshes and every thing goes
>>> wonky.
>>>   rite?
>>>   I think if we could all work on a consistent description of what
>>> exactly the problem is it would be easier for the dev people to nail
>>> it down.
>>>   Pete
>>>
>>> On 3/26/2016 4:43 PM, Mallard wrote:
>>>> Now then,
>>>>
>>>> The issue exists, because there are forums discussing it for devs.
>>>> They call the thing "Carousels" or "slideshows", or something else
>>>> that I can't remember now.
>>>>
>>>> I provided an example of a site
>>>>
>>>> www.esselungaacasa.it
>>>>
>>>> But I'm afraid you ahve to log in with username and password to see
>>>> that particular area of the sit.
>>>> Actually, "that particular area" is supposed to be in the
>>>> Accessible section of the site, and it's the whole Supermarket area...
>>>>
>>>> Firefox 45.0.1, Latest NvDA Next Snapshot, Espeak, Freedom
>>>> Scientific's pm 40 3.70 braille display.
>>>> Ollie
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Il 26/03/2016 20:36, Lino Morales ha scritto:
>>>>> Kevin here is one. If any of you are fans of Rick Dees and the
>>>>> Weekly Top 40 his site refreshes a lot.
>>>>> www.rick.com
>>>>>
>>>>> On 3/26/2016 3:34 PM, Kevin Chao wrote:
>>>>>> Can someone please provide examples of thes type of sites?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 26, 2016 at 12:30 PM Arno Schuh
>>>>>> <arno.schuh@...> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Am Samstag, 26. März 2016 17:40 schrieb Gene
>>>>>> <gsasner@...>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     > Are you referring to the setting concerning metarefresh in
>>>>>> Internet
>>>>>>     > Explorer?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     That's the option. But it is pretty cumbersome to activate and
>>>>>>     deactivate
>>>>>>     this option anytime you came across such a site.
>>>>>>     In Cobra you simply press letter s to freeze the site, and
>>>>>> simply
>>>>>>     press
>>>>>>     letter s again to set it free again.
>>>>>>     And of course it is no solution to keep the metarefresh option
>>>>>>     deactivated,
>>>>>>     because if so some sites don't work properly; i. e. you can't
>>>>>> log
>>>>>>     in some
>>>>>>     site, can't select list items in a list etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     So a simple feature like in Cobra would be pretty helpful when
>>>>>>     you came
>>>>>>     across such a site.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Yours sincerely
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Arno
>>>>>>
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Re: Saving application settings

Kenny Dog <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi

I just looked I don't see a written one or can not find one. I thought I had written one and uploaded it a while back.

The audio one should get you up and running though. Tonight I wrote up how to do or how to make a configuration profile with NVDA. It is more on how to do it and is application triggered when you go into that application. For example microsoft word. It also covers deleting out that profile and is on what I use all of the time.

It needs tidying up but hopefully is basic enough to follow to make a configuration profile.
Just let me know if you are interested and I can send to you.
if i ca not find any reference to one on my website in a written format once tidied up it will be uploaded to my website.
It does not cover the say all part to trigger it or manual part.
 
Gene nz


On 30-Mar-16 5:56 PM, Afrim wrote:
I will definitely have a look at them

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 30, 2016, at 3:11 AM, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:

Hi

I do have a audio tutorial on my nvda audio tutorials page called How to create different configuration profiles using NVDA

I only covered using a application to trigger different profiles in NVDA

Joseph done one that covered more like say all and there was one other, that I forget, but the one I did would be more well used.
The link to this page is http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20audio%20tutorials.html
It covers setting up 4 profiles. I can not remember if there is a written one also I would have to check.

Gene nz


On 28-Mar-16 1:49 AM, sarabrennan@... wrote:

Does anyone know how to save application settings in NVDA. I find the manual a bit confusing when it comes to this...I believe a profile needs to be created and I would like that it be triggered by a specific application but when do I choose the settings & save?


Thanks


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Re: help via skype with nvda?

Chris
 

try using nvda+1 that may help you :)
puts you into input help mode should explain what each key does

repeat nvda+1 to quit help

good luck

On 30/03/2016 07:27, Bhavya shah wrote:
Hi Hank,
Personally speaking, I might have been able to connect with you via
Skype but I am not exactly sure what I would share or explain to you.
However, as a general recommendation, I would suggest you to uncheck
the 'simple review mode' check box in NVDA's Review Cursor settings
dialog, as in my experience, it makes object navigation much more
meaningful.
Thanks.

On 3/30/16, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona <hank.smith966@gmail.com> wrote:
the tutorials are perfictly fine and I listened and relistened to them
god only knows many times
but I am having trouble under standing how the intire thing works.
if any one can help me via skype it would be really really appreciated
am serius here.
thanks
Hank

On 3/29/2016 9:53 PM, Afrim wrote:
What's wrong with them? They are well explained.
I also want to switch to NVDA completely, but there are still some
problems that prevent me to go for it.

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 30, 2016, at 1:36 AM, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona
<hank.smith966@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello can some one help me via skype with some nvda commands?
I read the tutorial and I am really really having trouble grasping the
object navigation commands and the way object navigation works.
the I did re listen to the tutorial on the objects and navigating them
but I still can't seem to grasp it.
really really want to go to nvda intirely but I need some help with the
object navigation
my skype is
hank.smith88
thanks
Hank





Re: help via skype with nvda?

Bhavya shah
 

Hi Hank,
Personally speaking, I might have been able to connect with you via
Skype but I am not exactly sure what I would share or explain to you.
However, as a general recommendation, I would suggest you to uncheck
the 'simple review mode' check box in NVDA's Review Cursor settings
dialog, as in my experience, it makes object navigation much more
meaningful.
Thanks.

On 3/30/16, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona <hank.smith966@gmail.com> wrote:
the tutorials are perfictly fine and I listened and relistened to them
god only knows many times
but I am having trouble under standing how the intire thing works.
if any one can help me via skype it would be really really appreciated
am serius here.
thanks
Hank

On 3/29/2016 9:53 PM, Afrim wrote:
What's wrong with them? They are well explained.
I also want to switch to NVDA completely, but there are still some
problems that prevent me to go for it.

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 30, 2016, at 1:36 AM, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona
<hank.smith966@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello can some one help me via skype with some nvda commands?
I read the tutorial and I am really really having trouble grasping the
object navigation commands and the way object navigation works.
the I did re listen to the tutorial on the objects and navigating them
but I still can't seem to grasp it.
really really want to go to nvda intirely but I need some help with the
object navigation
my skype is
hank.smith88
thanks
Hank





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Re: help via skype with nvda?

 

the tutorials are perfictly fine and I listened and relistened to them god only knows many times
but I am having trouble under standing how the intire thing works.
if any one can help me via skype it would be really really appreciated
am serius here.
thanks
Hank

On 3/29/2016 9:53 PM, Afrim wrote:
What's wrong with them? They are well explained.
I also want to switch to NVDA completely, but there are still some problems that prevent me to go for it.

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 30, 2016, at 1:36 AM, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona <hank.smith966@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello can some one help me via skype with some nvda commands?
I read the tutorial and I am really really having trouble grasping the object navigation commands and the way object navigation works.
the I did re listen to the tutorial on the objects and navigating them but I still can't seem to grasp it.
really really want to go to nvda intirely but I need some help with the object navigation
my skype is
hank.smith88
thanks
Hank