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Re: eloquence suggestions

Sam Bushman
 

The NVDA version can only be used for NVDA.

The other version can be used on windows and for any other speaking app/screen reader.

Not sure which is better because I have only used and paid for the NVDA version.

Thanks,

Sam

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Daniel Hawkins
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2020 7:14 AM
To: NVDA Mailing Group <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] eloquence suggestions

 

What is the difference between the two versions?

Daniel Hawkins

 

 



On Feb 14, 2020, at 7:29 AM, Sam Bushman <libertyroundtable@...> wrote:

 

I currently use the NVDA paid version. Works well for me.


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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of cecropia64
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 10:23 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] eloquence suggestions

i want to use eloquence with the latest version of nvda.  does anyone have any suggestions as to the best version to get, free and or paid? thanks


stew






 


Re: how to enable hidden files in Windows 10

 

And for the record, what one does to show/hide hidden files has remained the same for a very, very long time now.  It didn't change under Windows 10 one iota.

Control Panel, File Explorer Options, View Tab, and activate either the Show hidden files, folders, and drives radio button or its Don't show sibling.
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Re: eloquence suggestions

Daniel Hawkins
 

What is the difference between the two versions?
Daniel Hawkins



On Feb 14, 2020, at 7:29 AM, Sam Bushman <libertyroundtable@...> wrote:

I currently use the NVDA paid version. Works well for me.


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of cecropia64
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 10:23 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] eloquence suggestions

i want to use eloquence with the latest version of nvda.  does anyone have any suggestions as to the best version to get, free and or paid? thanks


stew









Re: eloquence suggestions

Sam Bushman
 

I currently use the NVDA paid version. Works well for me.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of cecropia64
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 10:23 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] eloquence suggestions

i want to use eloquence with the latest version of nvda. does anyone have any suggestions as to the best version to get, free and or paid? thanks


stew


Re: eloquence suggestions

Rui Fontes
 

You have Eloquence in SAPI5 flavour or in an NVDA add-on.


If you want to buy the first, can contact me.


Best regards,

Rui Fontes

Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Às 05:23 de 14/02/2020, cecropia64 escreveu:

i want to use eloquence with the latest version of nvda.  does anyone have any suggestions as to the best version to get, free and or paid? thanks


stew



Re: how to enable hidden files in Windows 10

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

For future reference it shows the hot keys for getting there  and it’s a lot faster

Press  alt+f o opens  folder options

 

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If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning start?

 

From: Chris Mullins
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2020 4:42 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how to enable hidden files in Windows 10

 

Hi

Open File Explorer

Press the alt key to open the menu bar, then use left arrow to move to

the "File tab

Arrow down to "Options Change settings for opening items, file and

folder views and search" and press enter

In the dialog that opens press Control+tab to move to the "view" tab

Press tab once to move to the "Advanced Settings" treeview

Navigate the treeview with up/down arrows, use spacebar to

check/uncheck settings, one of which is for hiding/showing hidden

files and folders

When done tab toOK button and press enter.

 

Note Your User account may require administrator privileges to use this feature.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

On 14/02/2020, Pramit <PRAMIT.VISION@...> wrote:

> Hi Robert

> In File Explorer go to View and then scroll right to the Show/Hide box and

> in that you can check / un-check the Hidden Item as per your request.

> Hope this helps!

> Pramit

> On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 5:30 AM Robert Mendoza <lowvisiontek@...>

> wrote:

>> Hoping could guide me how to enable the hidden files in the File explorer

>> 

>> I appreciate your respond. Thanks.

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>

 

 

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Cheers

    Chris

 

 

 


Re: eloquence suggestions

Gerardo Corripio
 

Remember to that if you still have Kurzweil1000 reading&scanning software, yu could use the eloquence provided on it. I used to do this with when had K1000 on my Windows XP machine; I haven’t upgraded so as to be able to use it nowadays.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

El 14 feb 2020, a la(s) 2:00 a.m., Robert Doc Wright godfearer <godfearer@...> escribió:



You can purchase it from Code factory or A T Guys

 

******

If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning start?

 

From: cecropia64
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 10:23 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] eloquence suggestions

 

i want to use eloquence with the latest version of nvda.  does anyone

have any suggestions as to the best version to get, free and or paid? 

thanks

 

 

stew

 

 

 

 


Re: eloquence suggestions

Daniel Hawkins
 

Thank you for that tip, I was wondering about the 3 activation and how it works when you have upgraded over 3 different computers. So, just deacatving is just that simple.

Thanks!
Daniel Hawkins



On Feb 14, 2020, at 2:52 AM, Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...> wrote:

Hi.  I purchased my copy of NVDA Eloquence and Vocalizer NVDA Addon from AT Guys for $69US$, and it is working like a charm.  But you must Download the CodeFactoryPython3 Addon though or it might not work with the latest installation ofNVDA.  You are given the option of Deactivating your copy from your pc should you need to Revamp it, then reactivate it when you are ready to do so.  And you can install it on 3 PCSat at any one time. But you must remember to deactivate any of those copies should you want to migrate to a different machine or there will be problems when your activation attempts run out.  Cheers!

On 2/14/2020 4:00 PM, Robert Doc Wright godfearer wrote:
You can purchase it from Code factory or A T Guys 
 
******
If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning start?
 
From: cecropia64
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 10:23 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] eloquence suggestions
 
i want to use eloquence with the latest version of nvda.  does anyone 
have any suggestions as to the best version to get, free and or paid?  
thanks
 
 
stew
 
 
 
 


Re: how to enable hidden files in Windows 10

Chris Mullins
 

Hi
Open File Explorer
Press the alt key to open the menu bar, then use left arrow to move to
the "File tab
Arrow down to "Options Change settings for opening items, file and
folder views and search" and press enter
In the dialog that opens press Control+tab to move to the "view" tab
Press tab once to move to the "Advanced Settings" treeview
Navigate the treeview with up/down arrows, use spacebar to
check/uncheck settings, one of which is for hiding/showing hidden
files and folders
When done tab toOK button and press enter.

Note Your User account may require administrator privileges to use this feature.

Cheers
Chris

On 14/02/2020, Pramit <PRAMIT.VISION@...> wrote:
Hi Robert

In File Explorer go to View and then scroll right to the Show/Hide box and
in that you can check / un-check the Hidden Item as per your request.

Hope this helps!

Pramit

On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 5:30 AM Robert Mendoza <lowvisiontek@...>
wrote:

Hoping could guide me how to enable the hidden files in the File explorer

I appreciate your respond. Thanks.






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Cheers
Chris


Editing of Windows onecore voices

Marco Oros
 

Hello.

MS Speech mobile isn't compatible for this version. I have one pleasure to developers of NVDA.

Please, could You edit Windows Onecore to same things, as MS Speech mobile, for example to correct pronunciation of letters and also, names of voices viewing, as name of voice and language. Also, there is problem with sorting of voices, because voices are sorted randomly.

Please, could You look on It?

Thank You.

best regards

Marco Oros


Re: NVDA and Firefox

Pele West
 

Hi Gene and Quentin

Thanks. I tried the Com Registration tool without success.

I am going to uninstall and reinstall Firefox and try Waterfox.

Pele


Re: questions for Newest nvda update.

Christo Vorster
 

Hi Quentin

 

Thanks, all my problems are solved, at the moment. I hope it stays that way.

 

Regards

 

Christo Vorster (Worcester, south Africa)

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Thursday, 13 February 2020 12:56
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] questions for Newest nvda update.

 

Also, make sure you have restarted the computer after updating.  Sometimes random things misbehave in that interim time.

 

With Clipspeak, it has been updated, you can download the new version from: https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/clipspeak.en.html

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 8:29 PM Jacob Kruger <jacob@...> wrote:

Christo, am going to ask a silly question here, since just tested out exactly that, and, it worked fine.

 

What voice engine are you using?  Ask that, since, the MS one core voices will just read out, for example, the letter E with an accent on it as E, but, using eSpeak-NG, it tells me the difference between e and é (that second one is e-acute, typed right now using alt + numpad-130).

 

Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"...resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2020-02-13 11:17 AM, Christo Vorster wrote:

Hi List

 

I have another problem since I upgraded to NVDA 2019.3.

 

In Afrikaans we regularly make use of the ASCII codes for ‘accents’, ‘pounds’, ‘euros’ and much more.

 

To access the ASCII codes, we use the ALT-key plus the numeric keypad. I did everything, as I usually did, turned on the numeric-keypad, held down ALT and typed the number sequence.

 

Nothing happened. I tried it several times, with no success. Previously NVDA read the coded letter.

 

I also, previously wrote regarding the addon announcing copy and paste. I tried to update the addon, with no success. Can someone please hel?

 

Regards

 

Christo Vorster (Worcester, South Africa)

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, 11 February 2020 18:55
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] questions for Newest nvda update.

 

And, with regard to NVDA Remote and NVDA 2019.3.X, quoting Rui Fontes from earlier today:

Almost all add-ons are already compatible with NVDA 2019.3...

You can get a beta version of remote add-on at:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/oswq834340ocd4c/Remote.nvda-addon?dl=1

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Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.

       ~ Madonna

 

 


 

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Training and Support Manager

 

 


Re: NVDA froze

Felix G.
 

Hello,
technically, what exactly would constitute an irrecoverable freeze of
NVDA? Isn't the watchdog in place to prevent that exact thing? Or are
there calls which might potentially freeze but which the watchdog is
not guarding?
Best,
Felix

Am Fr., 14. Feb. 2020 um 02:44 Uhr schrieb Gene <gsasner@...>:


The command control alt n, the command used to start NVDA will restart it, but I would think there are times when it can't, depending on how it freezes.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 4:54 AM Cordelia Scharpf <CScharpf@...> wrote:

Hi:

I updated to NVDA 2019.3.1 a couple of days ago and while responding to an
email in Outlook 2010, it froze and did not respond to any key strokes. I
ended up shutting down the computer and restarting it, switching to another
screen reader to write this message. I do not know if a log would help
pinpoint the problem. What other workaround might there be to restart NVDA
and get the keys moving again?

Cordelia




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Re: eloquence suggestions

Jaffar Sidek
 

Hi.  I purchased my copy of NVDA Eloquence and Vocalizer NVDA Addon from AT Guys for $69US$, and it is working like a charm.  But you must Download the CodeFactoryPython3 Addon though or it might not work with the latest installation ofNVDA.  You are given the option of Deactivating your copy from your pc should you need to Revamp it, then reactivate it when you are ready to do so.  And you can install it on 3 PCSat at any one time. But you must remember to deactivate any of those copies should you want to migrate to a different machine or there will be problems when your activation attempts run out.  Cheers!

On 2/14/2020 4:00 PM, Robert Doc Wright godfearer wrote:

You can purchase it from Code factory or A T Guys

 

******

If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning start?

 

From: cecropia64
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 10:23 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] eloquence suggestions

 

i want to use eloquence with the latest version of nvda.  does anyone

have any suggestions as to the best version to get, free and or paid? 

thanks

 

 

stew

 

 

 

 


Re: Image Editing Software

Rayn Darren
 

You absolutely should! I for one would love something like that! The more we can do on our own the better!

Sarah

On 2/13/2020 5:39 PM, Luke Robinett wrote:
I feel your pain, haha. I want to make original graphics for my YouTube channel but haven’t found a solution.
I began working on a Windows desktop app in C# where you choose a shape from a drop down and then fill out relevant attributes — length, height, border/fill colors etc and it draws it on the canvas. I was taking a class where we needed to draw up a simple mockup of the GUI of the apps we were building as homewor assignments so I was trying to make myself a utility that would allow me to build a UI mockup without being able to see it. Long story short, I got it partially finished but moved on to other things and never finished it. Maybe I should dig back into it.

On Feb 12, 2020, at 8:43 PM, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:


I'm not aware of anything specifically, but you might try making an SVG file for your logo. You can write it a bit like code (so the downside is you need to write it a bit like code...). I found a tutorial on W3 Schools: https://www.w3schools.com/graphics/svg_intro.asp



On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 8:07 AM VIAS, ARMANDO <avias@...> wrote:
Hey all.

Are there any accessible image editing software? I am trying to create a logo for my blog, (The Blind Advocate Network), and I’m trying to find accessible imaging software that works with NVDA. Any suggestions/websites would be welcomed.

Thanks.

Armando


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Web: www.nvaccess.org
Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/
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Twitter: @NVAccess


Re: eloquence suggestions

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

You can purchase it from Code factory or A T Guys

 

******

If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning start?

 

From: cecropia64
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 10:23 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] eloquence suggestions

 

i want to use eloquence with the latest version of nvda.  does anyone

have any suggestions as to the best version to get, free and or paid? 

thanks

 

 

stew

 

 

 

 


Re: how to enable hidden files in Windows 10

Pramit
 

Hi Robert

In File Explorer go to View and then scroll right to the Show/Hide box and in that you can check / un-check the Hidden Item as per your request.

Hope this helps!

Pramit

On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 5:30 AM Robert Mendoza <lowvisiontek@...> wrote:
Hoping could guide me how to enable the hidden files in the File explorer

I appreciate your respond. Thanks.





eloquence suggestions

cecropia64
 

i want to use eloquence with the latest version of nvda.  does anyone have any suggestions as to the best version to get, free and or paid?  thanks


stew


minor bug alert

Ame
 

Hi all!

 

Just ran across something a few days ago when I installed the latest nvda update.  I’m a winamp user.  When you hit s for shuffle or r for repeat, you should hear “on” or “off.”  It doesn’t say anything but “off.”  Weird!  I even tried uninstalling and reinstalling winamp.  I always get the light version.  I’m guessing there haven’t been any updates since 5.63.  Radionomy hasn’t done anything with it as far as I know.  Maybe I’m wrong and that’s the issue.  Anyway, like I said, it’s a pretty minor thing in the grand scheme of things but I just wanted someone to know. 

 

Thanks

 

Ame


Re: Problem with NVDA while reading documents

Quentin Christensen
 

As is will be fine - we can skip the unnecessary bits :)

Re UI Automation, it's basically a different way for NVDA to get the information about where the focus is and what is happening in Word.  Not everything is available using UIA, although there are some things available that way which aren't available using traditional methods.  Unfortunately it's not something that we can "mix and match" to get everything - we have to use either all UIA or all traditional methods.

For now, for most users, we feel the original way still works best, but UIA is there either for people who want to try it (probably developers) or for those who need to access something only available using UIA.

Regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 1:58 PM Vaibhav Bhandari <vaibhavbhandari2017@...> wrote:
Woops, sorry. It was Alt+tab. And for what it was reading, it was
reading the title of the document. When I pressed alt tab or windows+M
to go to the desktop, the speech would stop and it would go there but
if I pressed Shift or control then still it would not stop speaking. I
will mail the logue to the e-mail you suggested.
One more thing, when I started NVDA in debug mode, the problem
occurred after 15 to 20 minutes. The log is around 8000 characters
long so should I remove the dialogue of the unwanted speech during
those 15 minutes or send the log as it is?
Ralf, I looked at the UI automation option in the advanced settings
and it was not enabled. What does it actually do?

On 2/14/20, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:
> Hi Vaibhav,
>
> Can you please give more information about what happened here.  I can't
> quite follow / replicate what you have done.  Firstly which program are you
> working in?  Initially I thought maybe Word, but SHIFT+TAB doesn't change
> documents in Word.  CONTROL+F6 will switch between open Word documents, or
> ALT+TAB will switch between open windows (from any program).
>
> You can use SHIFT+TAB in File Explorer to move from the file list to the
> folder list, which you might do if you want to move to another folder of
> documents?
>
> All of those things worked just fine in Windows 10 / Office 2016 / NVDA
> 2019.3 for me just now.
>
> Also you said NVDA kept talking, what was it saying?
>
> If you could email that information with a full copy of the log to
> info@... I can have a look for you.
>
> Regards
> Quentin.
>
> On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 11:02 PM Vaibhav Bhandari <
> vaibhavbhandari2017@...> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>> I am using the latest version of NVDA. Today, I was reading and doing
>> work in some documents but when suddenly I switched my documents by
>> pressing shift+tab, my nvda crashed. It was not reading the document
>> and no matter what I pressed it did not stop speaking. After
>> restarting it, the problem occurred again. This time I restarted NVDA
>> in debug mode and got the following message during that problem:
>> DEBUG - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (13:02:41.398) -
>> MainThread (4820):
>> oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 1311748, objectID 109 and
>> childID 0: [WinError -2147467259] Unspecified error
>> This problem is continuously happening though fortunately not so
>> frequently. Can someone help me with this?
>>
>> --
>> Thanks/regards: Vaibhav Bhandari
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> Quentin Christensen
> Training and Support Manager
>
> NVDA 2019.3 rc2 now available for testing:
> https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2019-3rc2-now-available-for-testing/
>
> Web: www.nvaccess.org
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> Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/
> User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda
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> Twitter: @NVAccess <https://twitter.com/NVAccess>
>
>
>
>


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Thanks/regards: Vaibhav Bhandari





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