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Re: NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is

Sharni-Lee Ward
 

Hi Brian,


That does seem to match up with my mother's description of what was
going on on the screen. I'm going to start connecting it manually
instead of having it be connected at startup and NVDA configured to use
it automatically. I may simply have been typing too fast in Word for the
code to keep up (although as I said this doesn't happen just in Word).


Also, That fix sounds horrible and unnatural. I wish there were ways to
make words be emphasised the way you want them to be, and that the
method worked across the board instead of in just one synth, but you
can't have everything...

On 2/05/2016 6:33 PM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
Obviously if you are certain that the problem does not occur whenits
not connected you have proved the issue is that. Next you need to see
if there is a newer version of the driver perhaps?
Not having tried this display, I'm a bit useless on this aspect.
Are there any other bits ofsoftware on the computer that can use the
display that might be able to test f its just nvda or if its a more
general problem. It sounds like a hang not exactly a crash, ie its
going around in circles and not getting out of a loop.
If it happens at a non critical time, what happens if you do the short
tap on the power button which in my case seems to break out of a
crashed piece of software back to a a working condition again.
Too long of course will shut the machine down. I think Word saves its
file in the background and tells you next time you staart of any
rescued documents it may have you might need to get into.
Incidentally did my fix for your name in speech platform work?

shar-nee-Lee.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharni-Lee Ward"
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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2016 12:00 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is


It just happened again, again while I was writing. My mother came to
help me again and tried to save my work. Word wouldn't respond. She
tried to exit NVDA mannually, but it wouldn't allow her to do that. She
scanned NVDA with Microsoft Security Essentials but nothing came up. I'm
now using the computer without my Braille Display. I don't understand
why it's doing this to me, but I can't think of any other culprit. It's
brand new. We bought it in February and I've barely used it, partly
because of this issue and partly because of the MUD I've been playing.
But I've had it plugged into my computer via USB almost constantly since
I got it and installed the driver. The computer usually starts up with
it plugged in.


Please, someone, help! I want to solve this problem as soon as possible!
I've had about enough of this and I don't want to sacrifice my Braille
Display just because this is happening!


On 2/05/2016 7:10 AM, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote:
I've mentioned this before, but it's been weeks and I don't know if I
got any more useful help after Joseph said to submit a log entry. Which
given the nature of my problem, I doubt would work.


Since I got my Braille Display in February, NVDA has frozen with
alarming regularity. It hasn't been like previous experiences of the
phenomenon either. I used to occasionally have NVDA freeze, but I could
restart the screen reader with alt+ctrl+n. With this situation, I
can't.
NVDA completely stops working. It says nothing. The Braille display's
display remains frozen on whatever was last spoken. I can't restart
NVDA, and sometimes can't even shut down the computer without sighted
help. That's the only way to get things working again—shut down and
restart the computer. I used to only experience this soon after
startup,
especially when I tried to activate the snapshot with the experimental
UEB table in it, but now I'm having it happen after the computer's been
going for a while, and it happens on both the normal installation and
the brltbl snapshot. Just now, I had it happen while I was writing in a
document. I was typing merrily away when NVDA stopped reporting letters
and the Braille Display, when I checked it, was only displaying the
first two words I'd typed on that line.


This is getting seriously annoying both for me and my mother, who is my
carer. I don't know what's causing this problem but I have a horrible
feeling it's to do with my Focus 40 Blue, as it didn't happen before I
got it. Can anyone shed some light on this? I want it to stop so my
writing and other activities don't keep getting interrupted.









Re: NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is

Sharni-Lee Ward
 

No, I do not have a backup screen reader. NVDA is the only free one I
know of and I am happy with it. I considered getting a Braille Display
more beneficial than Jaws, which I would have to pay $500 per year to
keep updated. And I don't have the bandwidth to even download the demo.
I don't like Jaws anyway. I was never taught how to properly use most
Jaws specific commands when I did use it in school. That was ten years
ago now, so it likely wouldn't help me much anyways.

On 2/05/2016 1:30 PM, Arlene wrote:
Hi, What other screen reader do you have on your computer? If you have a back up screen reader besides NVDA why not try it to make sure it's not your Braille Display? It sounds like you might have botched up a setting while setting it up for it to run on NVDA. If it works on your back up screen reader, then there's something up with a setting for NVDA.

-----Original Message-----
From: Sharni-Lee Ward [mailto:sharni-lee.ward@hotmail.com]
Sent: May-01-16 4:01 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is

It just happened again, again while I was writing. My mother came to
help me again and tried to save my work. Word wouldn't respond. She
tried to exit NVDA mannually, but it wouldn't allow her to do that. She
scanned NVDA with Microsoft Security Essentials but nothing came up. I'm
now using the computer without my Braille Display. I don't understand
why it's doing this to me, but I can't think of any other culprit. It's
brand new. We bought it in February and I've barely used it, partly
because of this issue and partly because of the MUD I've been playing.
But I've had it plugged into my computer via USB almost constantly since
I got it and installed the driver. The computer usually starts up with
it plugged in.


Please, someone, help! I want to solve this problem as soon as possible!
I've had about enough of this and I don't want to sacrifice my Braille
Display just because this is happening!


On 2/05/2016 7:10 AM, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote:
I've mentioned this before, but it's been weeks and I don't know if I
got any more useful help after Joseph said to submit a log entry. Which
given the nature of my problem, I doubt would work.


Since I got my Braille Display in February, NVDA has frozen with
alarming regularity. It hasn't been like previous experiences of the
phenomenon either. I used to occasionally have NVDA freeze, but I could
restart the screen reader with alt+ctrl+n. With this situation, I can't.
NVDA completely stops working. It says nothing. The Braille display's
display remains frozen on whatever was last spoken. I can't restart
NVDA, and sometimes can't even shut down the computer without sighted
help. That's the only way to get things working again—shut down and
restart the computer. I used to only experience this soon after startup,
especially when I tried to activate the snapshot with the experimental
UEB table in it, but now I'm having it happen after the computer's been
going for a while, and it happens on both the normal installation and
the brltbl snapshot. Just now, I had it happen while I was writing in a
document. I was typing merrily away when NVDA stopped reporting letters
and the Braille Display, when I checked it, was only displaying the
first two words I'd typed on that line.


This is getting seriously annoying both for me and my mother, who is my
carer. I don't know what's causing this problem but I have a horrible
feeling it's to do with my Focus 40 Blue, as it didn't happen before I
got it. Can anyone shed some light on this? I want it to stop so my
writing and other activities don't keep getting interrupted.









Re: NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is

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I don't think its malware, reading the thread it sounds like the braill table part of nvda and the master snapshots are supposed to have now fixed it. Its been a while since I had a computer with one of those displays. fartoo expensive for the low usage I have.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Arlene" <nedster66@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2016 4:15 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is


Hi there: Do you think your computer could have mellwhere to cause this
freezing?

-----Original Message-----
From: Rob [mailto:captinlogic@gmail.com]
Sent: May-01-16 6:31 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is

Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
Why wouldn't my workaround accomplish the same end but more easily.
Because most of the keyboard is frozen when this freeze happens. The only
thing that works is the windows key and some function keys.





Re: NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is

Sharni-Lee Ward
 

Or I could just not have the display plugged in at startup and only
connect it when I want to use it. :D


Thank you for your insight, though. :D

On 2/05/2016 11:13 AM, Rob wrote:
Sharni-Lee Ward <sharni-lee.ward@hotmail.com> wrote:
NVDA completely stops working. It says nothing. The Braille display's
display remains frozen on whatever was last spoken.
There is a way to get around this, but it is kind of a pain. Here is how.
1. Create another user account on your computer and give it admin rights.
2. The problem with the freeze is caused by LibLouis, not your braille
display; it would freeze upno matter what display you have.
3. Next time it freezes, press windows+l
4. Press alt+w for switch user
5. Hit right arrow to land on the user you created
6. Press enter and type its password
7. Press control+shift+delete to land in task manager. Do not start
NVDA, because it might freeze again.
8. Hit control+tab to land in the processes list
9. Type the letters nv to land on the nvda.exe process. Press alt+e,
alt+y to terminate it.
10. Press windows+l, alt+w to return to your previous windows session.
Your user should be the first one in the list; press enter on it and
type your password.
11. Restart NVDA. if it freezes once more, repeat the previous steps.
It will not always freeze. This is a random event.
12. Once NVDA has successfully started, go into The NVDA menu with NVDA+n
13. Go to braille settings by pressing the letters p and r. Select no
braille and press enter.
14. Go back into the NVDA menu and press s for save configuration.
15. Return, once more, to the NVDA menu and press p for preferences
and then enter on general settings. Untick the box that says "save
configuration on exit."
16. Now, when you start NVDA, you will have no braille. You will have
to select your Focus 40 manually on each start. NVDA will not usually
freeze if you select a display while it is running. It has always been
the case--for me, anyway--that it freezes during startup and a braille
display is automatically selected.
I hope this helps.



Re: NVDA and tab

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I think originally it was proffered that it was due to nvda missing an item, due to timing issues, but it is so flaky that nobody seemed to be able to get a definitive answer.
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From: "Arianna Sepulveda" <englishrider91@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2016 3:01 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and tab


Wow! I use Firefox, and I don't think I've ever had this problem.


Thanks,
Ari

On May 1, 2016, at 1:26 PM, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:

But the problem here is that when you are in the proper part of the Window and have opened a page, you have to tab once at times to be able to move in and read the page. I haven't paid much attention to this. In my case, using firefox, it is a problem that occurs off and on but that doesn't occur nearly every time I load a page. I believe I've seen the same problem when using Google, though I don't use google much.

I haven't tested to see if the problem exists in other screen-readers.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Jacob Kruger
Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2016 2:19 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and tab

I generally use ctrl + F6 keystroke to focus on webpage contents after
typing in an address, etc. - think this works in both IE11 and firefox.

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's closet..."

On 2016-05-01 9:08 PM, Nevzat Adil wrote:
Hello all,
I encounter an issue when trying to get on to the Internet which I am
not sure whether it is n NVDA issue or something else.
For instance, when I try to get to my home page, google, the page does
not seem to load and read by NVDA unless I press tab. It is only then
that NVDA begins reading the page. The same issue occurs when trying
to get onto other pages, as well.
My operating system is Windows 10 64 bit. NVDA is the most recent.
I would appreciate your comments.
Nevzat



Re: NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is

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With respect, I do not think this is the case here, as it freezes later on.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Rob" <captinlogic@gmail.com>
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Sent: Monday, May 02, 2016 2:13 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is


Sharni-Lee Ward <sharni-lee.ward@hotmail.com> wrote:
NVDA completely stops working. It says nothing. The Braille display's
display remains frozen on whatever was last spoken.
There is a way to get around this, but it is kind of a pain. Here is how.
1. Create another user account on your computer and give it admin rights.
2. The problem with the freeze is caused by LibLouis, not your braille display; it would freeze upno matter what display you have.
3. Next time it freezes, press windows+l
4. Press alt+w for switch user
5. Hit right arrow to land on the user you created
6. Press enter and type its password
7. Press control+shift+delete to land in task manager. Do not start NVDA, because it might freeze again.
8. Hit control+tab to land in the processes list
9. Type the letters nv to land on the nvda.exe process. Press alt+e, alt+y to terminate it.
10. Press windows+l, alt+w to return to your previous windows session. Your user should be the first one in the list; press enter on it and type your password.
11. Restart NVDA. if it freezes once more, repeat the previous steps. It will not always freeze. This is a random event.
12. Once NVDA has successfully started, go into The NVDA menu with NVDA+n
13. Go to braille settings by pressing the letters p and r. Select no braille and press enter.
14. Go back into the NVDA menu and press s for save configuration.
15. Return, once more, to the NVDA menu and press p for preferences and then enter on general settings. Untick the box that says "save configuration on exit."
16. Now, when you start NVDA, you will have no braille. You will have to select your Focus 40 manually on each start. NVDA will not usually freeze if you select a display while it is running. It has always been the case--for me, anyway--that it freezes during startup and a braille display is automatically selected.
I hope this helps.


Re: Navigational sounds

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No I don't want it to duck in this case but as I say, if anyone out there still has the clicking, end of download etc still working on Firefox with navigational sounds add in, do let me know.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "David Moore" <jesusloves1966@gmail.com>
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Sent: Monday, May 02, 2016 2:04 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Navigational sounds


Windows 8 and above is correct! There's a reason to upgrade to win10 LOL!

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Mullins
Sent: Sunday, May 1, 2016 2:04 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Navigational sounds

I think audio ducking only works on windows 8 and above.

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: Jacob Kruger [mailto:jacob@blindza.co.za]
Sent: 01 May 2016 14:51
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Navigational sounds

Sound ducking?

As in, if remember correctly, it won't work on XP, but, will work on later
versions of windows if activated/turned on?

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
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On 2016-05-01 12:36 PM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
Rather strangely, the click sound amongst others seems not to be being
played any more in IE or Firefox even though the start navigation
sound is still selected and plays from the control panel dialogue fine
on both
Windows7 and 10. anyone else noticed this. One is using a usb sound
card the other the built in realtek one so i doubt if that is the issue.
It seems to be working on xp though, which is, as someone once said,
illogical.

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Re: NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is

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I doubt that or it would not work at all, personally. Some of these installers will have you plugging an unplugging devices several times it seems, presumably to check it can be detected, which it obviously is as otherwise it would not work at all or detect when its not plugged in.

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Sent: Monday, May 02, 2016 1:50 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is


Hi,


Yes, but you have Windows 10. I have 7.


So I didn't botch the installation or something? That's my biggest fear
right now, that I somehow botched something when I was setting up my
Braille Display.


On 2/05/2016 10:44 AM, Pranav Lal wrote:
Hi Sharni,

I have a similar problem but my log entries are different and my freezing occurs mainly in outlook 2016. Regardless, this is what I do to recover from it without sighted assistance.
1. Hit windows key +l or ctrl+alt+ddel. It depends on whichever key combination works.
2. I get to the login screen.
3. I can then tab to the shutdown button and power off or restart the computer.

OS=Windows 10
NVDA 2016.1
Pranav






Re: Accessible online survey creation tool

Bhavya shah
 

Hi all,
I am finally done (hopefully) with all I need to know. One does not
need any complex querying or databases, Google Docs Forms works in a
simple and easy to understand manner.
I have enabled e-mail notifications for myself so whenever any
respondent submits, I am made aware.
Thanks a lot guys for all the help, and I sincerely hope maximum South
Asians may participate and bring this to life.
Thanks.

On 5/2/16, Brian's Mail list account <bglists@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
Yes it baffled me as well. I did attempt Survey Monkey some time back but my

brain hurt.....:-)
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From: "Bhavya shah" <bhavya.shah125@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2016 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible online survey creation tool


Hi Chris,
I am getting very confused with Google Forms. I cannot find links and
buttons to click and follow instructions from, and the keystrokes are
working in a weird way, perhaps something that I am unable to keep up
with or understand.
I would like to sincerely request you, or others, to please give me a
quick walkthrough of Google Forms or other accessible survey creation
services via any preferred medium. My contact details are all in my
signature.
I would truly appreciate any assistance.
Thanks.

On 5/1/16, ChrisLeo <llajta@gmx.us> wrote:
Hi Bhavya,
What you think about google forms?
try and tell me if that's what you are looking for:
https://docs.google.com/forms
-.
Using the available shortcuts you can make a good survey.

Cheers.


Chris.

Bhavya shah, 01/05/2016 15:16:
Dear all,
I require to create an online survey about a certain potential
initiative and the amount of interest in it people may have, which may
include several question types - country combo box/dropdown, open
ended question edit box, radio button and check box, and an
introductory paragraph.
For this, I seek your advice and recommendations of a free online
survey creation service that could fulfill my purpose.
I do not need very advanced functionality, simply basic survey
creation, sharing and results analysis features would suffice.
I would really appreciate any assistance any of you may be willing to
give!
Thanks.



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Re: NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is

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Remember it still crashes in a standard release though so this might be a scarlet fish.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Rui Fontes" <rui.fontes@tiflotecnia.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2016 12:45 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is


What experimental Braille table is that? In what Snapshot it is included?

Rui


-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Sharni-Lee Ward
Data: segunda-feira, 2 de maio de 2016 00:37
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is



Hi,




Yes, NVDA freezes, and during the last two times this happened, Word froze as well. Other things worked but my mother had to navigate the computer because I could hear nothing. This is, however, not the only time this has happened. I've had to deal with this frequently over the last couple of months, and sometimes it was something as simple as activating the snapshot and changing the Braille Output table from Unified English to the English Unified Experimental table that would trigger this. I used to use the Braille Display to read my Bible every day when I first got on the computer. I have had to forego that practice because setting up the snapshot just after startup almost always necessitated a restart of my computer.





How can I activate Narrator without having speech to begin with? If there's a key command, I'd love to know it.




On 2/05/2016 9:15 AM, Gene wrote:

I'm not sure from your message what is occurring. You say that NVDA is freezing but you also appear to state that Microsoft Word froze as well. Does the program you are working in freeze along with NVDA? Are other programs still running? Why not run narrator and shut down NVDA using task manager and see if that allows things to return to normal. If you want to use the Braille display before a solution is found, we need to try to determine how to deal with the problem so you can continue to do what you were doing without losing material.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Rui Fontes
Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2016 6:07 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is

Hello!

What version of Windows?
What version of MS Office?
What version of NVDA?
The Focus Blue is conected via USB or Bluetooth?
What Braille table are you using?

Can you send a NVDA log file?

Rui

-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Sharni-Lee Ward
Data: segunda-feira, 2 de maio de 2016 00:00
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is

It just happened again, again while I was writing. My mother came to
help me again and tried to save my work. Word wouldn't respond. She
tried to exit NVDA mannually, but it wouldn't allow her to do that. She
scanned NVDA with Microsoft Security Essentials but nothing came up. I'm
now using the computer without my Braille Display. I don't understand
why it's doing this to me, but I can't think of any other culprit. It's
brand new. We bought it in February and I've barely used it, partly
because of this issue and partly because of the MUD I've been playing.
But I've had it plugged into my computer via USB almost constantly since
I got it and installed the driver. The computer usually starts up with
it plugged in.


Please, someone, help! I want to solve this problem as soon as possible!
I've had about enough of this and I don't want to sacrifice my Braille
Display just because this is happening!


On 2/05/2016 7:10 AM, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote:
I've mentioned this before, but it's been weeks and I don't know if I
got any more useful help after Joseph said to submit a log entry. Which
given the nature of my problem, I doubt would work.


Since I got my Braille Display in February, NVDA has frozen with
alarming regularity. It hasn't been like previous experiences of the
phenomenon either. I used to occasionally have NVDA freeze, but I could
restart the screen reader with alt+ctrl+n. With this situation, I can't.
NVDA completely stops working. It says nothing. The Braille display's
display remains frozen on whatever was last spoken. I can't restart
NVDA, and sometimes can't even shut down the computer without sighted
help. That's the only way to get things working again-shut down and
restart the computer. I used to only experience this soon after startup,
especially when I tried to activate the snapshot with the experimental
UEB table in it, but now I'm having it happen after the computer's been
going for a while, and it happens on both the normal installation and
the brltbl snapshot. Just now, I had it happen while I was writing in a
document. I was typing merrily away when NVDA stopped reporting letters
and the Braille Display, when I checked it, was only displaying the
first two words I'd typed on that line.


This is getting seriously annoying both for me and my mother, who is my
carer. I don't know what's causing this problem but I have a horrible
feeling it's to do with my Focus 40 Blue, as it didn't happen before I
got it. Can anyone shed some light on this? I want it to stop so my
writing and other activities don't keep getting interrupted.
















Re: NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is

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I think in the general settings a log setting of input output or debug might be a good thing to do before you start. I have my doubts if the error we see has much to do with the problem.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Sharni-Lee Ward" <sharni-lee.ward@hotmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2016 12:43 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is


Okay, I got the log entry! Here is what it says.


INFO - __main__ (06:55:25):
Starting NVDA
INFO - core.main (06:55:38):
Config dir: C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda
INFO - core.main (06:55:38):
NVDA version 2016.1
INFO - core.main (06:55:38):
Using Windows version 6.1.7601 service pack 1 workstation
INFO - core.main (06:55:38):
Using Python version 2.7.11 (v2.7.11:6d1b6a68f775, Dec 5 2015,
20:32:19) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]
INFO - core.main (06:55:38):
Using comtypes version 0.6.2
INFO - external:synthDrivers.ptenglish.SynthDriver.__init__ (06:56:00):
Using eSpeak version 1.48.03 04.Mar.14
INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (06:56:03):
Loaded synthDriver ptenglish
INFO - core.main (06:56:04):
Using wx version 3.0.2.0 msw (classic)
INFO - braille.initialize (06:56:04):
Using liblouis version 2.6.5
INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (06:56:04):
Loaded braille display driver freedomScientific, current display has 40
cells.
INFO - brailleInput.initialize (06:56:04):
Braille input initialized
INFO - core.main (06:56:08):
NVDA initialized
ERROR - queueHandler.flushQueue (07:37:52):
Error in func _handleUpdate from eventQueue
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue
File "virtualBuffers\__init__.pyo", line 674, in _handleUpdate
File "braille.pyo", line 1643, in handleUpdate
File "braille.pyo", line 904, in update
File "textInfos\offsets.pyo", line 346, in expand
File "virtualBuffers\__init__.pyo", line 314, in _getUnitOffsets
File "textInfos\offsets.pyo", line 328, in _getUnitOffsets
File "virtualBuffers\__init__.pyo", line 256, in _getParagraphOffsets
WindowsError: [Error 1775] A null context handle was passed from the
client to the host during a remote procedure call
INFO - core.onEndSession (08:44:56):
Windows session ending


On 2/05/2016 9:36 AM, Andre Fisher wrote:
You can do that.

1. Open the Run dialog (Windows+R).
2. Type %Temp% in the edit box and press Enter.
3. Press n until you hear nvda-old.log and open it.
4. You can copy the text to an email message and send it here.

On 5/1/16, Sharni-Lee Ward <sharni-lee.ward@hotmail.com> wrote:
Hi,


Windows 7, Ms word 2013 (although it doesn't always happen in Word. It
just did the last two times), NVDA 2016.1, the display is connected via
USB and I'm using the Unified English Grade 2 table for output and the
Unified 8 Dot table for input (unless I use the snapshot, because then I
use the experimental Unified table for output because it has
improvements that make reading easier for me).


I can't send an NVDA log file because NVDA isn't working when this
problem occurs and it only shows a log of the current session when I
open the log viewer. If there's a way to retrieve a previous log from
somewhere, I'd love to hear it.


On 2/05/2016 9:07 AM, Rui Fontes wrote:
Hello!

What version of Windows?
What version of MS Office?
What version of NVDA?
The Focus Blue is conected via USB or Bluetooth?
What Braille table are you using?

Can you send a NVDA log file?

Rui

-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Sharni-Lee Ward
Data: segunda-feira, 2 de maio de 2016 00:00
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is

It just happened again, again while I was writing. My mother came to
help me again and tried to save my work. Word wouldn't respond. She
tried to exit NVDA mannually, but it wouldn't allow her to do that. She
scanned NVDA with Microsoft Security Essentials but nothing came up. I'm
now using the computer without my Braille Display. I don't understand
why it's doing this to me, but I can't think of any other culprit. It's
brand new. We bought it in February and I've barely used it, partly
because of this issue and partly because of the MUD I've been playing.
But I've had it plugged into my computer via USB almost constantly since
I got it and installed the driver. The computer usually starts up with
it plugged in.


Please, someone, help! I want to solve this problem as soon as possible!
I've had about enough of this and I don't want to sacrifice my Braille
Display just because this is happening!


On 2/05/2016 7:10 AM, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote:
I've mentioned this before, but it's been weeks and I don't know if I
got any more useful help after Joseph said to submit a log entry. Which
given the nature of my problem, I doubt would work.


Since I got my Braille Display in February, NVDA has frozen with
alarming regularity. It hasn't been like previous experiences of the
phenomenon either. I used to occasionally have NVDA freeze, but I could
restart the screen reader with alt+ctrl+n. With this situation, I can't.
NVDA completely stops working. It says nothing. The Braille display's
display remains frozen on whatever was last spoken. I can't restart
NVDA, and sometimes can't even shut down the computer without sighted
help. That's the only way to get things working again-shut down and
restart the computer. I used to only experience this soon after startup,
especially when I tried to activate the snapshot with the experimental
UEB table in it, but now I'm having it happen after the computer's been
going for a while, and it happens on both the normal installation and
the brltbl snapshot. Just now, I had it happen while I was writing in a
document. I was typing merrily away when NVDA stopped reporting letters
and the Braille Display, when I checked it, was only displaying the
first two words I'd typed on that line.


This is getting seriously annoying both for me and my mother, who is my
carer. I don't know what's causing this problem but I have a horrible
feeling it's to do with my Focus 40 Blue, as it didn't happen before I
got it. Can anyone shed some light on this? I want it to stop so my
writing and other activities don't keep getting interrupted.












Re: NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is

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OK I'll spell out how to get the old log.
When you are back up and running bring up the run box and put in it %temp% and enter
In that folder is a file called nvdaold.log. Load that into notepad and see how it terminates, as this will probably be where any error shows itself just before it froze.
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----- Original Message -----
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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2016 12:26 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is


Hi,


Windows 7, Ms word 2013 (although it doesn't always happen in Word. It
just did the last two times), NVDA 2016.1, the display is connected via
USB and I'm using the Unified English Grade 2 table for output and the
Unified 8 Dot table for input (unless I use the snapshot, because then I
use the experimental Unified table for output because it has
improvements that make reading easier for me).


I can't send an NVDA log file because NVDA isn't working when this
problem occurs and it only shows a log of the current session when I
open the log viewer. If there's a way to retrieve a previous log from
somewhere, I'd love to hear it.


On 2/05/2016 9:07 AM, Rui Fontes wrote:
Hello!

What version of Windows?
What version of MS Office?
What version of NVDA?
The Focus Blue is conected via USB or Bluetooth?
What Braille table are you using?

Can you send a NVDA log file?

Rui

-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Sharni-Lee Ward
Data: segunda-feira, 2 de maio de 2016 00:00
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is

It just happened again, again while I was writing. My mother came to
help me again and tried to save my work. Word wouldn't respond. She
tried to exit NVDA mannually, but it wouldn't allow her to do that. She
scanned NVDA with Microsoft Security Essentials but nothing came up. I'm
now using the computer without my Braille Display. I don't understand
why it's doing this to me, but I can't think of any other culprit. It's
brand new. We bought it in February and I've barely used it, partly
because of this issue and partly because of the MUD I've been playing.
But I've had it plugged into my computer via USB almost constantly since
I got it and installed the driver. The computer usually starts up with
it plugged in.


Please, someone, help! I want to solve this problem as soon as possible!
I've had about enough of this and I don't want to sacrifice my Braille
Display just because this is happening!


On 2/05/2016 7:10 AM, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote:
I've mentioned this before, but it's been weeks and I don't know if I
got any more useful help after Joseph said to submit a log entry. Which
given the nature of my problem, I doubt would work.


Since I got my Braille Display in February, NVDA has frozen with
alarming regularity. It hasn't been like previous experiences of the
phenomenon either. I used to occasionally have NVDA freeze, but I could
restart the screen reader with alt+ctrl+n. With this situation, I can't.
NVDA completely stops working. It says nothing. The Braille display's
display remains frozen on whatever was last spoken. I can't restart
NVDA, and sometimes can't even shut down the computer without sighted
help. That's the only way to get things working again-shut down and
restart the computer. I used to only experience this soon after startup,
especially when I tried to activate the snapshot with the experimental
UEB table in it, but now I'm having it happen after the computer's been
going for a while, and it happens on both the normal installation and
the brltbl snapshot. Just now, I had it happen while I was writing in a
document. I was typing merrily away when NVDA stopped reporting letters
and the Braille Display, when I checked it, was only displaying the
first two words I'd typed on that line.


This is getting seriously annoying both for me and my mother, who is my
carer. I don't know what's causing this problem but I have a horrible
feeling it's to do with my Focus 40 Blue, as it didn't happen before I
got it. Can anyone shed some light on this? I want it to stop so my
writing and other activities don't keep getting interrupted.









Re: NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is

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In order to get a log file she would need to go to %temp% straight after a restart and get the old log file into notepad and see what is at the end of it. I suspect, nothing obvious will be seen just an end abruptly.
One thing I was wondering about, one assumes the display has its own psu, but for some odd reason a lot of gadgets these days also use the 5v from the usb to power some of their electronics. If there are quite a few items plugged in via usb, then things tend to run out of current. the way around this is a cheap powered usb hub, this seems to be particularly important on laptops even if working from the mains.
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From: "Rui Fontes" <rui.fontes@tiflotecnia.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2016 12:07 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is


Hello!

What version of Windows?
What version of MS Office?
What version of NVDA?
The Focus Blue is conected via USB or Bluetooth?
What Braille table are you using?

Can you send a NVDA log file?

Rui

-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Sharni-Lee Ward
Data: segunda-feira, 2 de maio de 2016 00:00
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is

It just happened again, again while I was writing. My mother came to
help me again and tried to save my work. Word wouldn't respond. She
tried to exit NVDA mannually, but it wouldn't allow her to do that. She
scanned NVDA with Microsoft Security Essentials but nothing came up. I'm
now using the computer without my Braille Display. I don't understand
why it's doing this to me, but I can't think of any other culprit. It's
brand new. We bought it in February and I've barely used it, partly
because of this issue and partly because of the MUD I've been playing.
But I've had it plugged into my computer via USB almost constantly since
I got it and installed the driver. The computer usually starts up with
it plugged in.


Please, someone, help! I want to solve this problem as soon as possible!
I've had about enough of this and I don't want to sacrifice my Braille
Display just because this is happening!


On 2/05/2016 7:10 AM, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote:
I've mentioned this before, but it's been weeks and I don't know if I
got any more useful help after Joseph said to submit a log entry. Which
given the nature of my problem, I doubt would work.


Since I got my Braille Display in February, NVDA has frozen with
alarming regularity. It hasn't been like previous experiences of the
phenomenon either. I used to occasionally have NVDA freeze, but I could
restart the screen reader with alt+ctrl+n. With this situation, I can't.
NVDA completely stops working. It says nothing. The Braille display's
display remains frozen on whatever was last spoken. I can't restart
NVDA, and sometimes can't even shut down the computer without sighted
help. That's the only way to get things working again-shut down and
restart the computer. I used to only experience this soon after startup,
especially when I tried to activate the snapshot with the experimental
UEB table in it, but now I'm having it happen after the computer's been
going for a while, and it happens on both the normal installation and
the brltbl snapshot. Just now, I had it happen while I was writing in a
document. I was typing merrily away when NVDA stopped reporting letters
and the Braille Display, when I checked it, was only displaying the
first two words I'd typed on that line.


This is getting seriously annoying both for me and my mother, who is my
carer. I don't know what's causing this problem but I have a horrible
feeling it's to do with my Focus 40 Blue, as it didn't happen before I
got it. Can anyone shed some light on this? I want it to stop so my
writing and other activities don't keep getting interrupted.









Survey: NVDACon Non Visual Desktop Access Users and Developers Conference for South Asia

Bhavya shah
 

Dear all,
The below integrated survey seeks to determine the amount of interest in introducing a version of the NVDACon International Users and Developers Conferences and regional NVDACons which are currently held in places such as United States of America, Japan, Korea etc. For South Asian regions. Created originally by a fellow NVDA enthusiast (a friend of mine too), and I myself being a passionate NVDA enthusiast, would like to sincerely request all of you to fill this form carefully and spread the word about it to other NVDA users in South Asia, preferably online at https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1P7xL7wPKHjN3GZs2Z1qBs_xZ7NEKnmWCywVk_pdBCr0/viewform?c=0&w=1 or by filling the fields and sending it to me privately at Bhavya.shah125@...

Sincerely looking forward to receiving many responses!
Thanks.

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NVDACon Non Visual Desktop Access screen reader Users and Developers Conference for South Asian regions

NVDA, having been founded in the year 2006 by a fascinated Australian blind programmer named Michael Curren, is now officialy ten years old today. As NVDA communities across the world celebrate this massive screen reading milestone, inspired from NVDACon International 2016 Users and Developers Conference 10th Anniversary edition, a group of people who are avid NVDA users, supporters and enthusiasts from India and Pakistan are willing to organize an NVDA conference for South Asia, where users, developers and even those simply interested in NVDA are given an opportunity to network with fellow NVDA residents, and share, discuss, learn more about and shape the future of NVDA. This survey has been authored by these NVDA loyallists and seeks to understand and ascertain the amount of interest in South Asian countries (like India, Pakistan etc.) in an NVDACon South Asia. We sincerely hope that you may take out a few minutes of your invaluable time in filling this survey questionairre carefully, to bring NVDACon South Asia to life.
* Required
    What is your full name? *
    Please provide your e-mail address below and any other contact information. Your personal contact information shall be kept strictly confidential and is being requested only in case the authors of this survey seek some further clarifications or correspondences with you.
    Are you visually impaired? If so, what is the level of your visual impairment? *
    • totally blind
    • significantly visually impaired
    • partially visually impaired
    • sighted
    Which screen reader(s) do you use on your Windows computer? You can choose more than one option in case you use certain alternatives are secondary choices, or only for testing or research purposes. *
    • NVDA (Non Visual Desktop Access)
    • JAWS (Job Access With Speech) for Windows
    • System Access/System Access To The GO
    • Window Eyes
    • Other:
    For what tasks and in what environments do you use or have used NVDA? You can choose more than one option in case you use NVDA in a variety of settings.
    • everyday use at home
    • work at office
    • education in school, college or university
    • only for software, web and accessibility testing and research purposes
    • Other:
    How proficient are you in the usage of NVDA?
    • beginner
    • intermediate
    • advanced
    Are you aware of NVDA conferences for its users and developers held internationally annually and have you participated in one? *
    • Yes, I have participated in a past NVDACon
    • I am aware of NVDACons but haven't participated in any
    • No, I am not aware of NVDACon
    How interested would you be in an NVDA conference for South Asian regions, namely NVDACon SA, similar to regional NVDA conferences such as NVDACon KR, NVDACon JP, NVDACon US etc? You can choose more than one option in case you may be interested in shouldering out multiple roles in the conference. *
    • participating
    • presenting a session
    • helping in organizing and planning
    • chairing (chiefly managing the conference)
    • not interested
    If an NVDACon South Asia does come to life, what should be the preferred language for communication in the conference? You may choose more than one option in case you wish the conference to be bi-lingual, tri-lingual and so on. *
    • Hindi
    • Urdu
    • English
    • Other:
    What online conferencing platform should the conference be based?
    • Teamtalk
    • Skype
    • I don't know
    • Other:
    Why would you like an NVDA conference to be held at the South Asian region? What do you like and feel about NVDA? What aspects related to NVDA would you like to discuss and learn more about in NVDACon SA?


Re: NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is

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Obviously if you are certain that the problem does not occur whenits not connected you have proved the issue is that. Next you need to see if there is a newer version of the driver perhaps?
Not having tried this display, I'm a bit useless on this aspect.
Are there any other bits ofsoftware on the computer that can use the display that might be able to test f its just nvda or if its a more general problem. It sounds like a hang not exactly a crash, ie its going around in circles and not getting out of a loop.
If it happens at a non critical time, what happens if you do the short tap on the power button which in my case seems to break out of a crashed piece of software back to a a working condition again.
Too long of course will shut the machine down. I think Word saves its file in the background and tells you next time you staart of any rescued documents it may have you might need to get into.
Incidentally did my fix for your name in speech platform work?

shar-nee-Lee.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Sharni-Lee Ward" <sharni-lee.ward@hotmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2016 12:00 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is


It just happened again, again while I was writing. My mother came to
help me again and tried to save my work. Word wouldn't respond. She
tried to exit NVDA mannually, but it wouldn't allow her to do that. She
scanned NVDA with Microsoft Security Essentials but nothing came up. I'm
now using the computer without my Braille Display. I don't understand
why it's doing this to me, but I can't think of any other culprit. It's
brand new. We bought it in February and I've barely used it, partly
because of this issue and partly because of the MUD I've been playing.
But I've had it plugged into my computer via USB almost constantly since
I got it and installed the driver. The computer usually starts up with
it plugged in.


Please, someone, help! I want to solve this problem as soon as possible!
I've had about enough of this and I don't want to sacrifice my Braille
Display just because this is happening!


On 2/05/2016 7:10 AM, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote:
I've mentioned this before, but it's been weeks and I don't know if I
got any more useful help after Joseph said to submit a log entry. Which
given the nature of my problem, I doubt would work.


Since I got my Braille Display in February, NVDA has frozen with
alarming regularity. It hasn't been like previous experiences of the
phenomenon either. I used to occasionally have NVDA freeze, but I could
restart the screen reader with alt+ctrl+n. With this situation, I can't.
NVDA completely stops working. It says nothing. The Braille display's
display remains frozen on whatever was last spoken. I can't restart
NVDA, and sometimes can't even shut down the computer without sighted
help. That's the only way to get things working again—shut down and
restart the computer. I used to only experience this soon after startup,
especially when I tried to activate the snapshot with the experimental
UEB table in it, but now I'm having it happen after the computer's been
going for a while, and it happens on both the normal installation and
the brltbl snapshot. Just now, I had it happen while I was writing in a
document. I was typing merrily away when NVDA stopped reporting letters
and the Braille Display, when I checked it, was only displaying the
first two words I'd typed on that line.


This is getting seriously annoying both for me and my mother, who is my
carer. I don't know what's causing this problem but I have a horrible
feeling it's to do with my Focus 40 Blue, as it didn't happen before I
got it. Can anyone shed some light on this? I want it to stop so my
writing and other activities don't keep getting interrupted.






FW: [BlindTech] Survey: NVDACon Users and Developers Conference for South Asia

 

Hi,

If you have any questions, suggestions or comments, please either fill out the survey or ask the original poster directly.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: Bhavya shah [mailto:bhavya.shah125@...]
Sent: Monday, May 2, 2016 1:26 AM
To: blindtech@groups.io
Subject: [BlindTech] Survey: NVDACon Users and Developers Conference for South Asia

 

Dear all,
The below integrated survey seeks to determine the amount of interest in introducing a version of the NVDACon International Users and Developers Conferences and regional NVDACons which are currently held in places such as United States of America, Japan, Korea etc. For South Asian regions. Created originally by a fellow NVDA enthusiast (a friend of mine too), and I myself being a passionate NVDA enthusiast, would like to sincerely request all of you to fill this form carefully and spread the word about it to other NVDA users in South Asia, preferably online at https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1P7xL7wPKHjN3GZs2Z1qBs_xZ7NEKnmWCywVk_pdBCr0/viewform?c=0&w=1 or by filling the fields and sending it to me privately at Bhavya.shah125@...

Sincerely looking forward to receiving many responses!
Thanks.

If you have trouble viewing or submitting this form, you can fill it out in Google Forms.

NVDACon Non Visual Desktop Access screen reader Users and Developers Conference for South Asian regions

NVDA, having been founded in the year 2006 by a fascinated Australian blind programmer named Michael Curren, is now officialy ten years old today. As NVDA communities across the world celebrate this massive screen reading milestone, inspired from NVDACon International 2016 Users and Developers Conference 10th Anniversary edition, a group of people who are avid NVDA users, supporters and enthusiasts from India and Pakistan are willing to organize an NVDA conference for South Asia, where users, developers and even those simply interested in NVDA are given an opportunity to network with fellow NVDA residents, and share, discuss, learn more about and shape the future of NVDA. This survey has been authored by these NVDA loyallists and seeks to understand and ascertain the amount of interest in South Asian countries (like India, Pakistan etc.) in an NVDACon South Asia. We sincerely hope that you may take out a few minutes of your invaluable time in filling this survey questionairre carefully, to bring NVDACon South Asia to life.

* Required

What is your full name? *

Please provide your e-mail address below and any other contact information. Your personal contact information shall be kept strictly confidential and is being requested only in case the authors of this survey seek some further clarifications or correspondences with you.

Are you visually impaired? If so, what is the level of your visual impairment? *

o    ( ) totally blind

o    ( ) significantly visually impaired

o    ( ) partially visually impaired

o    ( ) sighted

Which screen reader(s) do you use on your Windows computer? You can choose more than one option in case you use certain alternatives are secondary choices, or only for testing or research purposes. *

o    [ ] NVDA (Non Visual Desktop Access)

o    [ ] JAWS (Job Access With Speech) for Windows

o    [ ] System Access/System Access To The GO

o    [ ] Window Eyes

o    [ ] Other:

For what tasks and in what environments do you use or have used NVDA? You can choose more than one option in case you use NVDA in a variety of settings.

o    [ ] everyday use at home

o    [ ] work at office

o    [ ] education in school, college or university

o    [ ] only for software, web and accessibility testing and research purposes

o    [ ] Other:

How proficient are you in the usage of NVDA?

o    ( ) beginner

o    ( ) intermediate

o    ( ) advanced

Are you aware of NVDA conferences for its users and developers held internationally annually and have you participated in one? *

o    ( ) Yes, I have participated in a past NVDACon

o    ( ) I am aware of NVDACons but haven't participated in any

o    ( ) No, I am not aware of NVDACon

How interested would you be in an NVDA conference for South Asian regions, namely NVDACon SA, similar to regional NVDA conferences such as NVDACon KR, NVDACon JP, NVDACon US etc? You can choose more than one option in case you may be interested in shouldering out multiple roles in the conference. *

o    [ ] participating

o    [ ] presenting a session

o    [ ] helping in organizing and planning

o    [ ] chairing (chiefly managing the conference)

o    [ ] not interested

If an NVDACon South Asia does come to life, what should be the preferred language for communication in the conference? You may choose more than one option in case you wish the conference to be bi-lingual, tri-lingual and so on. *

o    [ ] Hindi

o    [ ] Urdu

o    [ ] English

o    [ ] Other:

What online conferencing platform should the conference be based?

o    ( ) Teamtalk

o    ( ) Skype

o    ( ) I don't know

o    ( ) Other:

Why would you like an NVDA conference to be held at the South Asian region? What do you like and feel about NVDA? What aspects related to NVDA would you like to discuss and learn more about in NVDACon SA?

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Re: NVDA and tab

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Funnily enough in both IE and Firefox this can happen to me also, but its not just tab that works, sometimes its alt or lat tab away and back again. It is as if the virtual buffer is not there or no actual focus was found by nvda, any new command then seems to wake it up. Having tried old and new versions of nvda, it seems totally random in nature on all of them. It in fact dates back to a problem I remember back in the xp days on slower machines which had a ticket but the devs could not duplicate the effect.
Now whether its some setting I use or something strange at my end is debatable as so many machines and operating systems aare involved. I find myself, hitting alt and escape automatically nowadays!

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Nevzat Adil" <nevzatadil@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2016 8:08 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and tab


Hello all,
I encounter an issue when trying to get on to the Internet which I am
not sure whether it is n NVDA issue or something else.
For instance, when I try to get to my home page, google, the page does
not seem to load and read by NVDA unless I press tab. It is only then
that NVDA begins reading the page. The same issue occurs when trying
to get onto other pages, as well.
My operating system is Windows 10 64 bit. NVDA is the most recent.
I would appreciate your comments.
Nevzat


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Re: codefactory eloquence and vocalizer

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Hi,
Have been using this add-on for 4 months. The libraries used are the
same as for other screen readers. NVDA's dictionary is rather good and
prenunciatin is also good.
I use Eloquence as my speech engine after switching from using JAWS.
NVDA is very responsive, has no lags and works more than well.

On 5/2/16, Isaac <bigikemusic@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, anyone recommend this addon, is the vocalizer as good as the other
vocalizer, and is codefactory offering a sapi of just eloquence or vocalizer
as well.
Thanks


codefactory eloquence and vocalizer

Isaac <bigikemusic@...>
 

Hi, anyone recommend this addon, is the vocalizer as good as the other vocalizer, and is codefactory offering a sapi of just eloquence or vocalizer as well.
Thanks


Re: Accessible online survey creation tool

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Yes it baffled me as well. I did attempt Survey Monkey some time back but my brain hurt.....:-)
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Bhavya shah" <bhavya.shah125@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2016 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible online survey creation tool


Hi Chris,
I am getting very confused with Google Forms. I cannot find links and
buttons to click and follow instructions from, and the keystrokes are
working in a weird way, perhaps something that I am unable to keep up
with or understand.
I would like to sincerely request you, or others, to please give me a
quick walkthrough of Google Forms or other accessible survey creation
services via any preferred medium. My contact details are all in my
signature.
I would truly appreciate any assistance.
Thanks.

On 5/1/16, ChrisLeo <llajta@gmx.us> wrote:
Hi Bhavya,
What you think about google forms?
try and tell me if that's what you are looking for:
https://docs.google.com/forms
-.
Using the available shortcuts you can make a good survey.

Cheers.


Chris.

Bhavya shah, 01/05/2016 15:16:
Dear all,
I require to create an online survey about a certain potential
initiative and the amount of interest in it people may have, which may
include several question types - country combo box/dropdown, open
ended question edit box, radio button and check box, and an
introductory paragraph.
For this, I seek your advice and recommendations of a free online
survey creation service that could fulfill my purpose.
I do not need very advanced functionality, simply basic survey
creation, sharing and results analysis features would suffice.
I would really appreciate any assistance any of you may be willing to
give!
Thanks.



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