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locked Re: well, I guess I shouldn't have expected much

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

I'm not having any problems with thunderbird. I guess you could try


the mail app.

On 10/22/2020 6:06 AM, John Sanfilippo wrote:
Hi, which PC app do you like for mail. I'm watching out for something to replace Thunderbird. Thanks.

John Sanfilippo


Re: Accessing cell content in Braille in Excel for Office 365

Sylvie Duchateau
 

Hello Howard and all,
As Louis wrote, this checkbox is in the Excel advanced options.
If you uncheck it, you can read Excel cells content in Braille when editing it with f2.
I contacted the Microsoft Disability Help Desk and told them about the problem. They told me they would investigate.
I had a look on an older PC with NVDA 2020.3 and Excel 2013. The Checkbox exists also and I did not identify the braille problem.
So I suppose it is related to Office 365 and NVDA.
Best
Sylvie

-----Message d'origine-----
De : nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> De la part de Howard Traxler via groups.io
Envoyé : jeudi 22 octobre 2020 16:29
À : nvda@nvda.groups.io
Objet : Re: [nvda] Accessing cell content in Braille in Excel for Office 365

Someone please tell me about this checkbox.  To whom does it belong (JAWS, NVDA, windows, etc.) and where is it found?  I'd like to take a look.

Howard

On 10/22/2020 5:42 AM, Louis Maher wrote:

Folks,

Unchecking this box effects JAWS as well.

When the NVDA, or Microsoft, error is corrected, you can check this
box, and your Excel editing will go faster.

Regards

Louis Maher

Phone: 713-444-7838

E-mail ljmaher03@outlook.com

*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of
*Sylvie Duchateau
*Sent:* Thursday, October 22, 2020 4:30 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Accessing cell content in Braille in Excel for
Office 365

Hello Louis and all,

Thank you for this tip, it works!

Does anyone know what this checkbox is for?

Why checking this box prevents NVDA from using braille in cells but
not other screEn readers?

Best

Sylvie

*De :*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
<nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>> *De la part de*
Louis Maher via groups.io *Envoyé :* mardi 20 octobre 2020 17:38 *À :*
nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> *Objet :* Re: [nvda]
Accessing cell content in Braille in Excel for Office 365

Hello,

This problem comes up periodically.  You can try unchecking the box
which says “allow editing directly in cells”.  In Excel 365, do this:
Open an Excel spreadsheet.
Type alt + f. Up arrow to options, hit enter. Down arrow to advanced.
Tab until you find the box which says “allow editing directly in
cells. Uncheck that box. Shift + Tab until you reach OK. Hit enter.

Regards

Louis Maher

Phone: 713-444-7838

E-mail ljmaher03@outlook.com <mailto:ljmaher03@outlook.com>

*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
<nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of
*Sylvie Duchateau
*Sent:* Tuesday, October 20, 2020 10:28 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Accessing cell content in Braille in Excel for
Office 365

Hello,

This is the same here.

It seems to work better with other screen readers.

May be I should test with former NVDA version to see when this bug has
started.

Best

Sylvie

*De :*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
<nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>> *De la part de*
Aine Kelly Costello via groups.io *Envoyé :* mardi 20 octobre 2020
15:22 *À :* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> *Objet :*
Re: [nvda] Accessing cell content in Braille in Excel for Office 365

In Excel with pressing f2, I can view cell contents in Braille but not
use cursor to edit. I can use the Braille keyboard to edit but the
Braille doesn't update until I get out of that edit field With
QBraille XL and a recent NVDA alpha Think this has been the case for a
while


On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 08:13 AM, Brian Moore wrote:

Hi.  this is strange. Not having this problem with a braille
display and a shared sheet shared through corporate one drive. 
What display are you using?

Brian.

Contact me on skype: brian.moore

follow me on twitter:

http://www.twitter.com/bmoore123

<https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.
twitter.com%2Fbmoore123&data=04%7C01%7C%7Ca444a07000f944f8255208d8766d
097e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637389557960464578%7
CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1
haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=r7SlRv51QnssRrXmpPpvWh4ppThc1sCep7FRm
tcmcUM%3D&reserved=0>

On 10/19/2020 11:12 AM, Sylvie Duchateau wrote:

Hello all,

Using Office 365 for companies for some months now, I have
encountered one problem accessing cell content in Braille.

When I want to edit a shared Excel file and write in a
particular cell, opening it with F2, NVDA does not refresh the
Braille display and I cannot correct typos with the braille
display, only with the speech synthesiser.

I use last NVDA 2020.3 version with Office 365 for businesses.

Is it a known problem of NVDA or should I rather contact
Microsoft?

Thank you for any experience some of you may have.

Best

Sylvie


 On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 08:13 AM, Brian Moore wrote:

Hi.  this is strange. Not having this problem with a braille
display and a shared sheet shared through corporate one drive. 
What display are you using?

Brian.

Contact me on skype: brian.moore

follow me on twitter:

http://www.twitter.com/bmoore123

<https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.
twitter.com%2Fbmoore123&data=04%7C01%7C%7Ca444a07000f944f8255208d8766d
097e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637389557960464578%7
CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1
haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=r7SlRv51QnssRrXmpPpvWh4ppThc1sCep7FRm
tcmcUM%3D&reserved=0>

On 10/19/2020 11:12 AM, Sylvie Duchateau wrote:

Hello all,

Using Office 365 for companies for some months now, I have
encountered one problem accessing cell content in Braille.

When I want to edit a shared Excel file and write in a
particular cell, opening it with F2, NVDA does not refresh the
Braille display and I cannot correct typos with the braille
display, only with the speech synthesiser.

I use last NVDA 2020.3 version with Office 365 for businesses.

Is it a known problem of NVDA or should I rather contact
Microsoft?

Thank you for any experience some of you may have.

Best

Sylvie


Re: Accessing cell content in Braille in Excel for Office 365

Howard Traxler
 

Someone please tell me about this checkbox.  To whom does it belong (JAWS, NVDA, windows, etc.) and where is it found?  I'd like to take a look.

Howard

On 10/22/2020 5:42 AM, Louis Maher wrote:

Folks,

Unchecking this box effects JAWS as well.

When the NVDA, or Microsoft, error is corrected, you can check this box, and your Excel editing will go faster.

Regards

Louis Maher

Phone: 713-444-7838

E-mail ljmaher03@outlook.com

*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Sylvie Duchateau
*Sent:* Thursday, October 22, 2020 4:30 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Accessing cell content in Braille in Excel for Office 365

Hello Louis and all,

Thank you for this tip, it works!

Does anyone know what this checkbox is for?

Why checking this box prevents NVDA from using braille in cells but not other screEn readers?

Best

Sylvie

*De :*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>> *De la part de* Louis Maher via groups.io
*Envoyé :* mardi 20 octobre 2020 17:38
*À :* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Objet :* Re: [nvda] Accessing cell content in Braille in Excel for Office 365

Hello,

This problem comes up periodically.  You can try unchecking the box which says “allow editing directly in cells”.  In Excel 365, do this:
Open an Excel spreadsheet.
Type alt + f. Up arrow to options, hit enter. Down arrow to advanced. Tab until you find the box which says “allow editing directly in cells. Uncheck that
box. Shift + Tab until you reach OK. Hit enter.

Regards

Louis Maher

Phone: 713-444-7838

E-mail ljmaher03@outlook.com <mailto:ljmaher03@outlook.com>

*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *Sylvie Duchateau
*Sent:* Tuesday, October 20, 2020 10:28 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Accessing cell content in Braille in Excel for Office 365

Hello,

This is the same here.

It seems to work better with other screen readers.

May be I should test with former NVDA version to see when this bug has started.

Best

Sylvie

*De :*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>> *De la part de* Aine Kelly Costello via groups.io
*Envoyé :* mardi 20 octobre 2020 15:22
*À :* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Objet :* Re: [nvda] Accessing cell content in Braille in Excel for Office 365

In Excel with pressing f2, I can view cell contents in Braille but not use cursor to edit. I can use the Braille keyboard to edit but the Braille doesn't update until I get out of that edit field
With QBraille XL and a recent NVDA alpha
Think this has been the case for a while


On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 08:13 AM, Brian Moore wrote:

Hi.  this is strange. Not having this problem with a braille
display and a shared sheet shared through corporate one drive. 
What display are you using?

Brian.

Contact me on skype: brian.moore

follow me on twitter:

http://www.twitter.com/bmoore123
<https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.twitter.com%2Fbmoore123&data=04%7C01%7C%7Ca444a07000f944f8255208d8766d097e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637389557960464578%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=r7SlRv51QnssRrXmpPpvWh4ppThc1sCep7FRmtcmcUM%3D&reserved=0>

On 10/19/2020 11:12 AM, Sylvie Duchateau wrote:

Hello all,

Using Office 365 for companies for some months now, I have
encountered one problem accessing cell content in Braille.

When I want to edit a shared Excel file and write in a
particular cell, opening it with F2, NVDA does not refresh the
Braille display and I cannot correct typos with the braille
display, only with the speech synthesiser.

I use last NVDA 2020.3 version with Office 365 for businesses.

Is it a known problem of NVDA or should I rather contact
Microsoft?

Thank you for any experience some of you may have.

Best

Sylvie


 On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 08:13 AM, Brian Moore wrote:

Hi.  this is strange. Not having this problem with a braille
display and a shared sheet shared through corporate one drive. 
What display are you using?

Brian.

Contact me on skype: brian.moore

follow me on twitter:

http://www.twitter.com/bmoore123
<https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.twitter.com%2Fbmoore123&data=04%7C01%7C%7Ca444a07000f944f8255208d8766d097e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637389557960464578%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=r7SlRv51QnssRrXmpPpvWh4ppThc1sCep7FRmtcmcUM%3D&reserved=0>

On 10/19/2020 11:12 AM, Sylvie Duchateau wrote:

Hello all,

Using Office 365 for companies for some months now, I have
encountered one problem accessing cell content in Braille.

When I want to edit a shared Excel file and write in a
particular cell, opening it with F2, NVDA does not refresh the
Braille display and I cannot correct typos with the braille
display, only with the speech synthesiser.

I use last NVDA 2020.3 version with Office 365 for businesses.

Is it a known problem of NVDA or should I rather contact
Microsoft?

Thank you for any experience some of you may have.

Best

Sylvie


Re: lion OCR addon

Josh Kennedy
 

and where do I get the beta from so it works with NVDA 2020.3? 


Re: lion OCR addon

Josh Kennedy
 

the lion addon OCR's the screen or a specified portion of the screen over and over again at a specified interval until you tell it to stop or turn it off. This lets you define a portion of the screen, to for example let NVDA read subtitles for you when you are watching Japanese anime shows and movies with English subtitles. It may also give access to games by reading in-game text that is not accessible with NVDA. You can also tell the addon to only read something when the resulting OCR text has changed. 


locked Re: well, I guess I shouldn't have expected much

Chris Smart
 

Thunderbird is great and responds really really quickly! and that's coming from someone who stubbornly stuck to using eudora, even into Windows 10.

Yes, I used Eudora for probably twenty years. LOL


Just curious, what annoys you about Thunderbird? It is highly customizable, so maybe you just need to tweak some things.

On 2020-10-22 9:06 a.m., John Sanfilippo wrote:
Hi, which PC app do you like for mail. I'm watching out for something to replace Thunderbird. Thanks.

John Sanfilippo


locked Re: well, I guess I shouldn't have expected much

John Sanfilippo
 

Hi, which PC app do you like for mail. I'm watching out for something to replace Thunderbird. Thanks.

John Sanfilippo


Re: Accessing cell content in Braille in Excel for Office 365

Sylvie Duchateau
 

Louis and others,

The question is : is this a Microsoft or NVDA issue?

I did not want to mention the screen reader’s name here, but as you did, I don’t encounter the problem with JAWS when the checkbox is enabled.

Best

Sylvie

De : nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> De la part de Louis Maher via groups.io
Envoyé : jeudi 22 octobre 2020 12:42
À : nvda@nvda.groups.io
Objet : Re: [nvda] Accessing cell content in Braille in Excel for Office 365

 

Folks,

 

Unchecking this box effects JAWS as well.

 

When the NVDA, or Microsoft, error is corrected, you can check this box, and your Excel editing will go faster.

 

 

Regards

Louis Maher

Phone: 713-444-7838

E-mail ljmaher03@...

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sylvie Duchateau
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2020 4:30 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessing cell content in Braille in Excel for Office 365

 

Hello Louis and all,

Thank you for this tip, it works!

Does anyone know what this checkbox is for?

Why checking this box prevents NVDA from using braille in cells but not other screEn readers?

Best

Sylvie

De : nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> De la part de Louis Maher via groups.io
Envoyé : mardi 20 octobre 2020 17:38
À : nvda@nvda.groups.io
Objet : Re: [nvda] Accessing cell content in Braille in Excel for Office 365

 

Hello,

 

This problem comes up periodically.  You can try unchecking the box which says “allow editing directly in cells”.  In Excel 365, do this:
Open an Excel spreadsheet. 
Type alt + f. Up arrow to options, hit enter. Down arrow to advanced. Tab until you find the box which says “allow editing directly in cells. Uncheck that
box. Shift + Tab until you reach OK. Hit enter.

 

 

 

 

Regards

Louis Maher

Phone: 713-444-7838

E-mail ljmaher03@...

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sylvie Duchateau
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 10:28 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessing cell content in Braille in Excel for Office 365

 

Hello,

This is the same here.

It seems to work better with other screen readers.

May be I should test with former NVDA version to see when this bug has started.

Best

Sylvie

 

De : nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> De la part de Aine Kelly Costello via groups.io
Envoyé : mardi 20 octobre 2020 15:22
À : nvda@nvda.groups.io
Objet : Re: [nvda] Accessing cell content in Braille in Excel for Office 365

 

In Excel with pressing f2, I can view cell contents in Braille but not use cursor to edit. I can use the Braille keyboard to edit but the Braille doesn't update until I get out of that edit field
With QBraille XL and a recent NVDA alpha
Think this has been the case for a while


On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 08:13 AM, Brian Moore wrote:

Hi.  this is strange. Not having this problem with a braille display and a shared sheet shared through corporate one drive.  What display are you using?

Brian.

Contact me on skype: brian.moore
follow me on twitter:
http://www.twitter.com/bmoore123

On 10/19/2020 11:12 AM, Sylvie Duchateau wrote:

Hello all,

Using Office 365 for companies for some months now, I have encountered one problem accessing cell content in Braille.

When I want to edit a shared Excel file and write in a particular cell, opening it with F2, NVDA does not refresh the Braille display and I cannot correct typos with the braille display, only with the speech synthesiser.

I use last NVDA 2020.3 version with Office 365 for businesses.

Is it a known problem of NVDA or should I rather contact Microsoft?

Thank you for any experience some of you may have.

Best

Sylvie


 On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 08:13 AM, Brian Moore wrote:

Hi.  this is strange. Not having this problem with a braille display and a shared sheet shared through corporate one drive.  What display are you using?

Brian.

Contact me on skype: brian.moore
follow me on twitter:
http://www.twitter.com/bmoore123

On 10/19/2020 11:12 AM, Sylvie Duchateau wrote:

Hello all,

Using Office 365 for companies for some months now, I have encountered one problem accessing cell content in Braille.

When I want to edit a shared Excel file and write in a particular cell, opening it with F2, NVDA does not refresh the Braille display and I cannot correct typos with the braille display, only with the speech synthesiser.

I use last NVDA 2020.3 version with Office 365 for businesses.

Is it a known problem of NVDA or should I rather contact Microsoft?

Thank you for any experience some of you may have.

Best

Sylvie


Re: Accessing cell content in Braille in Excel for Office 365

Louis Maher
 

Folks,

 

Unchecking this box effects JAWS as well.

 

When the NVDA, or Microsoft, error is corrected, you can check this box, and your Excel editing will go faster.

 

 

Regards

Louis Maher

Phone: 713-444-7838

E-mail ljmaher03@...

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sylvie Duchateau
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2020 4:30 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessing cell content in Braille in Excel for Office 365

 

Hello Louis and all,

Thank you for this tip, it works!

Does anyone know what this checkbox is for?

Why checking this box prevents NVDA from using braille in cells but not other screEn readers?

Best

Sylvie

De : nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> De la part de Louis Maher via groups.io
Envoyé : mardi 20 octobre 2020 17:38
À : nvda@nvda.groups.io
Objet : Re: [nvda] Accessing cell content in Braille in Excel for Office 365

 

Hello,

 

This problem comes up periodically.  You can try unchecking the box which says “allow editing directly in cells”.  In Excel 365, do this:
Open an Excel spreadsheet. 
Type alt + f. Up arrow to options, hit enter. Down arrow to advanced. Tab until you find the box which says “allow editing directly in cells. Uncheck that
box. Shift + Tab until you reach OK. Hit enter.

 

 

 

 

Regards

Louis Maher

Phone: 713-444-7838

E-mail ljmaher03@...

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sylvie Duchateau
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 10:28 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessing cell content in Braille in Excel for Office 365

 

Hello,

This is the same here.

It seems to work better with other screen readers.

May be I should test with former NVDA version to see when this bug has started.

Best

Sylvie

 

De : nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> De la part de Aine Kelly Costello via groups.io
Envoyé : mardi 20 octobre 2020 15:22
À : nvda@nvda.groups.io
Objet : Re: [nvda] Accessing cell content in Braille in Excel for Office 365

 

In Excel with pressing f2, I can view cell contents in Braille but not use cursor to edit. I can use the Braille keyboard to edit but the Braille doesn't update until I get out of that edit field
With QBraille XL and a recent NVDA alpha
Think this has been the case for a while


On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 08:13 AM, Brian Moore wrote:

Hi.  this is strange. Not having this problem with a braille display and a shared sheet shared through corporate one drive.  What display are you using?

Brian.

Contact me on skype: brian.moore
follow me on twitter:
http://www.twitter.com/bmoore123

On 10/19/2020 11:12 AM, Sylvie Duchateau wrote:

Hello all,

Using Office 365 for companies for some months now, I have encountered one problem accessing cell content in Braille.

When I want to edit a shared Excel file and write in a particular cell, opening it with F2, NVDA does not refresh the Braille display and I cannot correct typos with the braille display, only with the speech synthesiser.

I use last NVDA 2020.3 version with Office 365 for businesses.

Is it a known problem of NVDA or should I rather contact Microsoft?

Thank you for any experience some of you may have.

Best

Sylvie


 On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 08:13 AM, Brian Moore wrote:

Hi.  this is strange. Not having this problem with a braille display and a shared sheet shared through corporate one drive.  What display are you using?

Brian.

Contact me on skype: brian.moore
follow me on twitter:
http://www.twitter.com/bmoore123

On 10/19/2020 11:12 AM, Sylvie Duchateau wrote:

Hello all,

Using Office 365 for companies for some months now, I have encountered one problem accessing cell content in Braille.

When I want to edit a shared Excel file and write in a particular cell, opening it with F2, NVDA does not refresh the Braille display and I cannot correct typos with the braille display, only with the speech synthesiser.

I use last NVDA 2020.3 version with Office 365 for businesses.

Is it a known problem of NVDA or should I rather contact Microsoft?

Thank you for any experience some of you may have.

Best

Sylvie


Re: NVDA misbehaving after a Windows Update and NVDA Update

r pardhasaradhi reddy <rpsreddy00@...>
 

Hello sir! first of all thankyou reply to me.I update windows to 2018 to 2020. When I update the windows, NVDA Is doesn't speak some buttons and When I going to chrome browser NVDA doesn't respond to me.When I press the shift tab or tab or insert+B it saying pain button.I remove the all addons in NVDA.
But my problem is not solved.
2 hours back your told me one option that is restart with addons option.
I find that option But it said restart with the addons disable
When I focused the that option then press enter  my NVDA was restarted.
but My problem is not solved.
Please tell me sir? How can I solve my problem.
My NVDA version  is 2020point 3


Re: Accessing cell content in Braille in Excel for Office 365

Sylvie Duchateau
 

Hello Louis and all,

Thank you for this tip, it works!

Does anyone know what this checkbox is for?

Why checking this box prevents NVDA from using braille in cells but not other screEn readers?

Best

Sylvie

De : nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> De la part de Louis Maher via groups.io
Envoyé : mardi 20 octobre 2020 17:38
À : nvda@nvda.groups.io
Objet : Re: [nvda] Accessing cell content in Braille in Excel for Office 365

 

Hello,

 

This problem comes up periodically.  You can try unchecking the box which says “allow editing directly in cells”.  In Excel 365, do this:
Open an Excel spreadsheet. 
Type alt + f. Up arrow to options, hit enter. Down arrow to advanced. Tab until you find the box which says “allow editing directly in cells. Uncheck that
box. Shift + Tab until you reach OK. Hit enter.

 

 

 

 

Regards

Louis Maher

Phone: 713-444-7838

E-mail ljmaher03@...

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sylvie Duchateau
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 10:28 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessing cell content in Braille in Excel for Office 365

 

Hello,

This is the same here.

It seems to work better with other screen readers.

May be I should test with former NVDA version to see when this bug has started.

Best

Sylvie

 

De : nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> De la part de Aine Kelly Costello via groups.io
Envoyé : mardi 20 octobre 2020 15:22
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Objet : Re: [nvda] Accessing cell content in Braille in Excel for Office 365

 

In Excel with pressing f2, I can view cell contents in Braille but not use cursor to edit. I can use the Braille keyboard to edit but the Braille doesn't update until I get out of that edit field
With QBraille XL and a recent NVDA alpha
Think this has been the case for a while


On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 08:13 AM, Brian Moore wrote:

Hi.  this is strange. Not having this problem with a braille display and a shared sheet shared through corporate one drive.  What display are you using?

Brian.

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On 10/19/2020 11:12 AM, Sylvie Duchateau wrote:

Hello all,

Using Office 365 for companies for some months now, I have encountered one problem accessing cell content in Braille.

When I want to edit a shared Excel file and write in a particular cell, opening it with F2, NVDA does not refresh the Braille display and I cannot correct typos with the braille display, only with the speech synthesiser.

I use last NVDA 2020.3 version with Office 365 for businesses.

Is it a known problem of NVDA or should I rather contact Microsoft?

Thank you for any experience some of you may have.

Best

Sylvie


 On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 08:13 AM, Brian Moore wrote:

Hi.  this is strange. Not having this problem with a braille display and a shared sheet shared through corporate one drive.  What display are you using?

Brian.

Contact me on skype: brian.moore
follow me on twitter:
http://www.twitter.com/bmoore123

On 10/19/2020 11:12 AM, Sylvie Duchateau wrote:

Hello all,

Using Office 365 for companies for some months now, I have encountered one problem accessing cell content in Braille.

When I want to edit a shared Excel file and write in a particular cell, opening it with F2, NVDA does not refresh the Braille display and I cannot correct typos with the braille display, only with the speech synthesiser.

I use last NVDA 2020.3 version with Office 365 for businesses.

Is it a known problem of NVDA or should I rather contact Microsoft?

Thank you for any experience some of you may have.

Best

Sylvie


Re: NVDA misbehaving after a Windows Update and NVDA Update

Quentin Christensen
 

I'm a bit confused about what exactly you've updated... 2018.3 sounds like an NVDA version (from 2018) moreso than a Windows version.  In any case, have you restarted your PC since you updated.

If you did update NVDA from 2018.3 to 2020.3, are you using any NVDA add-ons?  You should have been warned about any which are incompatible between these two versions, but I thought I'd check just in case.  If you press NVDA+Q then down arrow to "Restart NVDA with add-ons disabled", you can restart NVDA and check whether it works better.

Regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 7:24 PM r pardhasaradhi reddy <rpsreddy00@...> wrote:

Hello nvda community! I am facing an issue with NVDA screen reader software. Yesterday I update my Windows 10 version 2018.3 to 2020.
So when I updated my Windows nvda software does not work properly.
It doesn't speak some buttons example when I press the tab button start button cortana button show desktop button and some more buttons but nvda hasn't speak some buttons and dialogue boxes.
When I going to Chrome browser in every time nvda has not responded.
I have to reset the all nvda settings but my problem is not solved.
I already uninstall the software and reinstall it but no change.
Narrator and jaws both are working properly.
How can I solve my problem please help me. Thank you



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NVDA misbehaving after a Windows Update and NVDA Update

r pardhasaradhi reddy <rpsreddy00@...>
 

Hello nvda community! I am facing an issue with NVDA screen reader software. Yesterday I update my Windows 10 version 2018.3 to 2020.
So when I updated my Windows nvda software does not work properly.
It doesn't speak some buttons example when I press the tab button start button cortana button show desktop button and some more buttons but nvda hasn't speak some buttons and dialogue boxes.
When I going to Chrome browser in every time nvda has not responded.
I have to reset the all nvda settings but my problem is not solved.
I already uninstall the software and reinstall it but no change.
Narrator and jaws both are working properly.
How can I solve my problem please help me. Thank you


Re: windows feature update 20h2

enes sarıbaş
 

For this update, I will wait a bit, but if it won't come up in a few days, I will likely force it. Also, getting a new computer, and will download the 2009 iso and directly install that.

On 10/21/2020 8:24 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
Enes,

          Actually it's not really weird at all, but an evolution in the workings of Windows Update.  Fully automatic updates without user intervention are now a thing of the past unless someone keeps a version on their machine that is actually going out of support.  Windows Update itself interrogates the actual computer it's on to determine the hardware profile, and depending on that hardware profile, it will or will not be added to an update cohort where a Feature Update is offered for the user to Download and install.  There have even been instances where a Feature Update has been offered, but the offer not taken up by the end user, and it gets retracted for a time because some "late breaking problem" has been identified that was not known for that hardware profile previously.

            Check for Updates as a way to force update has been eliminated, too.  The only two ways I know of to force update are using the Update Assistant or the Win10 ISO file to do a feature update, neither of which is a good idea in the early days of any Feature Update release.

             As has been said on many occasions, by many other than myself, best practice with regard to Feature Updates is to do an occasional check of the Windows Update pane to see if it's been offered.  Then, and only then, and preferably after having done a full system image update, should the Download and install link be activated to apply the Feature Update.
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It’s hard waking up and realizing it’s not always black and white.

     ~ Kelley Boorn

 


Re: Buying Compact vocalizer voices

Socheat
 

Yes. They are different. Vocalizer voices from Tiflotecnia offers three variants. There are compact, plus, and premium high voices. While Code Factory's version offers only embedded pro and embedded high.

On 10/21/2020 8:18 PM, David Goldfield wrote:
Well, my copy of the Eloquence/Vocalizer voices allows for two versions, embedded pro, which is smaller in size, and embedded high. The embedded pro voices sound a bit like the compact voices. Are they actually different from those voices?

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
On 10/21/2020 4:51 AM, Socheat Muth wrote:

Hmm. Can't see them listed here. Maybe I'm missing something. Only the premium and premium high are listed.

On 10/21/2020 10:45 AM, David Goldfield wrote:
Actually, the Eloquence/Vocalizer NVDA voices from Code Factory are supplied with both the compact as well as the higher quality Vocalizer voices.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
On 10/20/2020 11:29 PM, Socheat Muth wrote:
It depends on what Vocalizer voices you are purchasing from. If you buy the one from Tiflotecnia, they have both the compact voices and premium voices. But if you buy the vocalizer from Code Factory, the only voices that available to you are premium voices only.

On 10/21/2020 1:27 AM, Daniel McGee wrote:
It is because I have a hearing impairment. This is why I prefer  compact versions. I'm only seeing the normal versions of the vocalizer expressive voices and not the compact ones.

On 20 Oct 2020, at 17:24, Joshua Hendrickson <louvins@...> wrote:

I personally don't know why people like the compact voices.  To me,
they sound like complete crap and are all full of static.  I've got
Daniel on my computer and could use him with NVDA if I wanted.  I have
the scansoft version of him using SAPI5.  However, he isn't my
favorite voice.  He sounds very arrogant and snobbish at least to me.
But to each their own.  Good luck.

On 10/20/20, Chris via groups.io <chrismedley@...> wrote:
You get all voices available to you to use including Daniel and whatever
other voices you need to use


From: Daniel McGee
Sent: 20 October 2020 16:29
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Buying Compact vocalizer voices

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Re: lion OCR addon

Quentin Christensen
 

What does this add-on do differently than using the built-in OCR (NVDA+R then navigation or reading keys and escape when done).


On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 3:37 AM CARLOS-ESTEBAN <carlosestebanpianista@...> wrote:
Hello.
I have NVDA 2020.3 and Lion 1.11beta addon work in my system. Remember that this add-on uses the OCR of Windows 10.
First, you have Windows 10 and the OCR work?
You disabled the screen curtain before pressing NVDA+alt+L?
In the add-ons manager, what is the status of Lion? Enabled?
Regards.

Carlos Esteban Martínez Macías.
Músico (pianista) y también ayuda a usuarios con discapacidad visual en el
uso de lectores de pantalla y tecnología.
Experto certificado en el lector de pantalla NVDA.

Musician (pianist) and also help to users with a visual disability in the use of screen readers and technology.
Certified expert in screen reader NVDA.



El mié., 21 de oct. de 2020 a la(s) 09:31, Peter Beasley (pjbeasley23@...) escribió:

What does it actually do?

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Josh Kennedy
Sent: 21 October 2020 14:54
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] lion OCR addon

 

here is the link for the latest version of lion live OCR. 
https://blindieconnect.net/files/lion-latest.nvda-addon

 



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Training and Support Manager


Re: control+f - The General Purpose Find Command in Windows

Quentin Christensen
 

Don't worry, we're not removing NVDA+f, or NVDA+control+f from what they currently do any time soon.

Actually, we've just made what is probably the biggest change to one of those commands we are likely to make without heavy consideration and consultation.  In NVDA 2020.3 NVDA+f does work slightly differently - it now reads the font information at the caret or system focus rather than the review cursor.  You now have to use NVDA+shift+f for the review cursor formatting information.

Quentin.

On Wed, Oct 21, 2020 at 11:38 PM Hettie <woehler.hettie@...> wrote:

Please do not take away this shortcut as it is important and essential when fonts descriptions is needed.


Hettie


On 2020/10/20 2:02 pm, John Sanfilippo wrote:
I have two wishes concerning NVDA control F: 1, That it change to just NVDA f, I never use that. 2, That they do away with having to press Enter when search not found. O, and #, that it makes a sound and wraps to the top again.



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Re: windows feature update 20h2

 

On Wed, Oct 21, 2020 at 09:34 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
so I guess its still going about.

It will, like all previous Feature Updates, be "going about" for many months before the roll out is complete.  Heck, the roll out of 2004 was not declared complete before this one started, and it's not the first time this has happened.

Feature Update roll outs are months long, by design.
 
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It’s hard waking up and realizing it’s not always black and white.

     ~ Kelley Boorn

 


Re: control+f - The General Purpose Find Command in Windows

Quentin Christensen
 

There is an issue similar to this.  For anyone interested in this idea for NVDA find, who can add extra detail, please feel encouraged to comment on the issue itself: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/4637

Quentin.

On Wed, Oct 21, 2020 at 10:41 PM John Sanfilippo <johnsanfilippo@...> wrote:
Ok, leave the assigned key alone. But #2, bag the OK prompt, and #3 make a sound and wrap to top I think would greatly improve what we have.

John S



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Training and Support Manager


Re: windows feature update 20h2

 

Well I thought I'd have to do what I did to mine but the update just
showed on my second hp system an intel i5 7200 so I guess its still
going about.

On 22/10/2020, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
Enes,

Actually it's not really weird at all, but an evolution in the workings of
Windows Update.  Fully automatic updates without user intervention are now a
thing of the past unless someone keeps a version on their machine that is
actually going out of support.  Windows Update itself interrogates the
actual computer it's on to determine the hardware profile, and depending on
that hardware profile, it will or will not be added to an update cohort
where a Feature Update is offered for the user to Download and install.
There have even been instances where a Feature Update has been offered, but
the offer not taken up by the end user, and it gets retracted for a time
because some "late breaking problem" has been identified that was not known
for that hardware profile previously.

Check for Updates as a way to force update has been eliminated, too.  The
only two ways I know of to force update are using the Update Assistant or
the Win10 ISO file to do a feature update, neither of which is a good idea
in the early days of any Feature Update release.

As has been said on many occasions, by many other than myself, best practice
with regard to Feature Updates is to do an occasional check of the Windows
Update pane to see if it's been offered.  Then, and only then, and
preferably after having done a full system image update, should the Download
and install link be activated to apply the Feature Update.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041

It’s hard waking up and realizing it’s not always black and white.

~ Kelley Boorn





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