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Re: Numpad Issue With NVDA And Thunderbird

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


In which mode are you in?


Pressing the insert key + 5 on the numeric key pad does nothing.


But if you use the number 5 on the numeric keypad by its self on a word it if pressed 2 times will spell out that word.


If you use the insert key + 5 on the main key board it will turn on and off report dynamic changes on and off.


Are you editing a document or reading it with the review cursor?


Gene nz

On 2/03/2020 10:51 am, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Group,

I am not quite sure when this started--probably with the 2019.3 update, but now when I am in a Thunderbird message and I want to try to highlight a word in an open message and check the spelling, when I press insert + numpad 5, NVDA says: 'blank.'  This also occurs in the subject field and the other header fields.

Has anyone else noticed this and is there a work around?


Re: how to escape the notepad plus plus character panel?

Sascha Cowley
 

Pressing F8 should take you back to the document. There is a close button in the character panel, but it seems only to be accessible with the mouse; I couldn't find it with NVDA using the navigator.

This is one of the issues I have with Notepad++: while much of it is accessible, many of the keyboard shortcuts are completely non-standard.

On 2/03/2020 06:50, Josh Kennedy wrote:

hi,

I sometimes use notepad plus plus to hand edit brl or brf braille files and other text files. I went into the edit menu and I wanted to enter some accented characters into a text file so I brought up the character panel, found the character I wanted and pressing enter puts that character into the file. But now when I run notepad++ the character panel keeps coming up and I can’t find a way to close it. So how do I close the character panel? I’m using the latest NVDA with CodeFactory eloquence and vocalizer addon.

 

Josh

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: Numpad Issue With NVDA And Thunderbird

Gene
 

I don't know what is causing the problem.  But using a different command should solve it.  You should be able to have the word you are on in the document spelled by just pressing numpad 5 by itself.  That Is the equivalent of spell current word even though it is defined as spelling the current navigator object.  One press will say the current word.  Two will spell it.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2020 3:51 PM
Subject: [nvda] Numpad Issue With NVDA And Thunderbird

Hi Group,

I am not quite sure when this started--probably with the 2019.3 update,
but now when I am in a Thunderbird message and I want to try to
highlight a word in an open message and check the spelling, when I press
insert + numpad 5, NVDA says: 'blank.'  This also occurs in the subject
field and the other header fields.

Has anyone else noticed this and is there a work around?

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Numpad Issue With NVDA And Thunderbird

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Group,

I am not quite sure when this started--probably with the 2019.3 update, but now when I am in a Thunderbird message and I want to try to highlight a word in an open message and check the spelling, when I press insert + numpad 5, NVDA says: 'blank.'  This also occurs in the subject field and the other header fields.

Has anyone else noticed this and is there a work around?

--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: Windows 10 App Essentials 20.03 #addonrelease

 

Hi,

I’ll take a look at it and see what can be done.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ron Canazzi
Sent: Sunday, March 1, 2020 1:45 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials 20.03 #AddonRelease

 

Hello Joseph,

Has there or will there be any attempt to improve the Weather App for Windows 10?  Particularly for the History tab, sighted people can look at the records for every day for their desired location. With the App as enhanced by your software add on, all we get is the monthly and highs and lows and precipitation.



On 3/1/2020 3:53 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi all,

 

Windows 10 App Essentials 20.03 is on its way – to be released to everyone (on stable channel) in a few hours. Version 20.03 includes improved support for Mail and Calendar app, as well as better experience when using upcoming Cortana generation 2 (Version 2004 and later).

 

Note: Windows 10 App Essentials add-on requires NVDA 2019.3 or later and Windows 10 Version 1903 (May 2019 Update/build 18362) or later. Also, Version 2004 (build 19041) is also supported.

Cheers,

Joseph



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They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: Windows 10 App Essentials 20.03 #addonrelease

Ron Canazzi
 

Hello Joseph,

Has there or will there be any attempt to improve the Weather App for Windows 10?  Particularly for the History tab, sighted people can look at the records for every day for their desired location. With the App as enhanced by your software add on, all we get is the monthly and highs and lows and precipitation.




On 3/1/2020 3:53 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi all,

 

Windows 10 App Essentials 20.03 is on its way – to be released to everyone (on stable channel) in a few hours. Version 20.03 includes improved support for Mail and Calendar app, as well as better experience when using upcoming Cortana generation 2 (Version 2004 and later).

 

Note: Windows 10 App Essentials add-on requires NVDA 2019.3 or later and Windows 10 Version 1903 (May 2019 Update/build 18362) or later. Also, Version 2004 (build 19041) is also supported.

Cheers,

Joseph


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They ask: "How Happy are You?"
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Re: Is Reaper still accessible with NVDA?

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On 1 Mar 2020, at 13:32, Sue J. Ward wrote:

Great. How would I hook a midi instrument to a computer since both of my computers have no sound cards that support the midi devices what type of cables and hardware along with software would I need to hook up the instrument to the computer? What is this thing someone mentioned eto google for osara cause I went to the add on page seems it is no longer developed am not sure if I should download the add on will it work with the latest version of NVDA? This reaper stuff is completely new to me along with the midi stuff. Would love to hook up my drum kit to the computer and record tracks with it so if anyone out there could give me some direction as to what I would need as far as all of the stuff I mentioned that would be great. Thank you.
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Re: Is Reaper still accessible with NVDA?

Sue J. Ward
 

Great. How would I hook a midi instrument to a computer since both of my computers have no sound cards that support the midi devices what type of cables and hardware along with software would I need to hook up the instrument to the computer? What is this thing someone mentioned eto google for osara cause I went to the add on page seems it is no longer developed am not sure if I should download the add on will it work with the latest version of NVDA? This reaper stuff is completely new to me along with the midi stuff. Would love to hook up my drum kit to the computer and record tracks with it so if anyone out there could give me some direction as to what I would need as far as all of the stuff I mentioned that would be great. Thank you.
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Windows 10 App Essentials 20.03 #addonrelease

 

Hi all,

 

Windows 10 App Essentials 20.03 is on its way – to be released to everyone (on stable channel) in a few hours. Version 20.03 includes improved support for Mail and Calendar app, as well as better experience when using upcoming Cortana generation 2 (Version 2004 and later).

 

Note: Windows 10 App Essentials add-on requires NVDA 2019.3 or later and Windows 10 Version 1903 (May 2019 Update/build 18362) or later. Also, Version 2004 (build 19041) is also supported.

Cheers,

Joseph


how to escape the notepad plus plus character panel?

Josh Kennedy
 

hi,

I sometimes use notepad plus plus to hand edit brl or brf braille files and other text files. I went into the edit menu and I wanted to enter some accented characters into a text file so I brought up the character panel, found the character I wanted and pressing enter puts that character into the file. But now when I run notepad++ the character panel keeps coming up and I can’t find a way to close it. So how do I close the character panel? I’m using the latest NVDA with CodeFactory eloquence and vocalizer addon.

 

Josh

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: Itunes Library with NVDA

Mary Otten
 

Thanks, Jim. This is very strange, because yesterday, when I had artists selected and tabbed through, I never did see that list. But having read your message, I just tried it again and found the listing of artists by tabbing 5 times from the itunes library sidebar when artists was selected. I even had my sighted spouse watch yesterday as I tabbed through, and never got to the listing. No idea what I did differently today, but it is working now.


I will also try the column browser. That was my prefered view when I used iTunes on a Mac, but I hadn't found a way to access it on the pc. Will try David's suggestion, although as he noted, I too am having some issues accessing menues, knowing which menu I'm in, as the top level  items, file view etc, don't read out with NVDA.


Mary

On 3/1/2020 4:30 AM, Jim O'Sullivan wrote:
Hi Mary,
This works for me.
When artists is selected in the library sidebar tree view, I tab 7 times, NVDA says All Artists, then I can arrow down and I will have an alphabetical list of artists in my library.
I can also type the first letter or 2 of an artist name here and iTunes will move to the artist in the list.
I press enter and it will start playing tracks by that artist.
I can also press app key or shift+f10 when on an artists to get a context menu of options.
When tracks by an artist are playing, control+l will bring up a track list that I can move through with up and down arrows.

Jim

On 01/03/2020 01:21, Mary Otten wrote:
Hi all,


It has been a long time since I ventured to open iTunes on my pc. I have the latest version, recently installed, and I have the NVDA latest as well. I can tab and find a tree view that is my music library. and I can arrow down through sections like albums, artists, songs etc. But I can't find a way to get from my chosen selection, say artists, into the list of artists, so that I might pick one. I have tried right arrow to no avail. Tab yields nothing useful. Pressing enter starts a song by the first artist in the listing of artists. But I can't find a keyboard-centric way to actually get to that list. Any advice?


Mary




Re: re-appearance of an issue with Speech Viewer?

 

Hi,

Looks like either a regression or something got corrupted in settings. I think someone wrote an issue on GitHub so developers might be aware of this issue.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Giles Turnbull
Sent: Sunday, March 1, 2020 6:20 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] re-appearance of an issue with Speech Viewer?

 

Hi Joseph,
I'm using voice Microsoft Zira Desktop - English (United States) with the  Microsoft Speech API version 5 synthesiser.

I've just tried it with one of the other voices in SAPI5, Hazel, and the speech viewer window is also not closing with Alt+F4. Zera is my day-to-day voice and I'm sure Alt+F4 would close the Speech Viewer window before the update to NVDA 2019.3

Giles


Re: question for Tyler Spivey. regarding clip speak

yunus Emre
 

Hello, what about Speech History what's it's status?


Re: planning on writing a guide on browsing the web efficiently with NVDA

Tony Malykh
 

If you do decide to write such a document, you might want to consider including information about my add-ons TextNav and BrowserNav there - as they are specifically intended for the same purpose: simplify or enhance navigation around web pages.

--Tony


On 2/29/2020 8:57 AM, Kara Goldfinch wrote:

Hi everyone.

As the subject says, I am planning to write a guide on how to browse the web more efficiently with NVDA.

As you all know, NVDA has a ton of single navigation commands to navigate to different webpage elements, E.G. Landmarks, headings, block quotes, links, the newly introduced groupings and articles etc. However, there doesn't seem to be much info in laypersons terms about what these elements are, much less how you can use them to  get around the web quicker. There's loads of dev info on w3c, but nothing much for your average screen reader user navigating the web.

I would post it on the community wiki as frankly I'm only one woman and don't know everything.  So it'd be a community effort much like the JAWS to NVDA guide, which I did most of the initial work on.

What do you all think of such a project? Would you find it useful?

Also, if a similar thing already exists, I don't want to reinvent the wheel.

All the best,

Kara


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Re: NVEA settings not opening

brice Mijares
 

I too have been havingthis problem. yes, I'tried uninstalling NVDA and reinstalling. I've turned off one ad on at a time and nothinng helps.

On 2/29/2020 1:38 PM, Janet Brandly wrote:

Hello all,

I hd this problem just now. I had to shut down NVDA from the task bar and restart it using control+alt+N. Hope that helps.

Janet


Re: re-appearance of an issue with Speech Viewer?

Giles Turnbull
 

Hi Joseph,
I'm using voice Microsoft Zira Desktop - English (United States) with the  Microsoft Speech API version 5 synthesiser.

I've just tried it with one of the other voices in SAPI5, Hazel, and the speech viewer window is also not closing with Alt+F4. Zera is my day-to-day voice and I'm sure Alt+F4 would close the Speech Viewer window before the update to NVDA 2019.3

Giles


Re: Itunes Library with NVDA

David Griffith
 

Unfortunately the default view in iTunes is not friendly to screenreaders.

The  advice for screenreader users is generally to

  1. Change the library sort view from Artists to Songs.
  2. Now you can enable column browser which is pretty essential for a smooth iTunes experience. Oddly column browser can only be enable with songs as the sort view. You should find column browser in the view menu with songs set as the sort view. There is also a keystroke to enable column browser which I am afraid I have forgotten for the time being though I could find out. Actually in the latest iTunes I find getting to the menus a little awkward but pressing alt and v gets me into the required view menu so you could try the same.
  3. Once column browser is enable you can return to the view menu and select which elements you want iTunes to sort your music by. Personally I uncheck genre .
  4. Once you have this all set up your music library will be sorted into columns. On my iTunes the first column is artists and I can simply arrow down to hear each artist. Now pressings the tab key  or right arrow will jump you into a column with the all the albums by a particular artist and then pressing tab  or right arrow again from the album column will land you in a list of all the songs on that album. Press enter to play, space to pause, control alt arros left and right to fast forward and  backwards, left and right arrows to move to next and previous tracks.
  5. Press shift tab to navigate back through the columns.
  6. So basically with this setup iTunes becomes not just accessible but easy to play music from.

David Griffith

  1.  

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Mary Otten
Sent: 01 March 2020 01:21
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Itunes Library with NVDA

 

Hi all,

 

 

It has been a long time since I ventured to open iTunes on my pc. I have

the latest version, recently installed, and I have the NVDA latest as

well. I can tab and find a tree view that is my music library. and I can

arrow down through sections like albums, artists, songs etc. But I can't

find a way to get from my chosen selection, say artists, into the list

of artists, so that I might pick one. I have tried right arrow to no

avail. Tab yields nothing useful. Pressing enter starts a song by the

first artist in the listing of artists. But I can't find a

keyboard-centric way to actually get to that list. Any advice?

 

 

Mary

 

 

 

 


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Re: question for Tyler Spivey. regarding clip speak

Dan Thompson
 

Sorry, I thought I saw you as the author.  Sorry to bother you.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tyler Spivey
Sent: Saturday, February 29, 2020 3:02 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] question for Tyler Spivey. regarding clip speak

 

Clipspeak? That wasn't me. Go ask its author.

Looking at the webpage on the addons site, it's compatible.

 

On 2/29/2020 10:50 AM, Dan Thompson wrote:

Hi Tyler

Are you going to create an update for clip speak, and where can I get it?  Thanks for all your awesome work with nvda!!

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Re: Itunes Library with NVDA

Jim O'Sullivan
 

Hi Mary,
This works for me.
When artists is selected in the library sidebar tree view, I tab 7 times, NVDA says All Artists, then I can arrow down and I will have an alphabetical list of artists in my library.
I can also type the first letter or 2 of an artist name here and iTunes will move to the artist in the list.
I press enter and it will start playing tracks by that artist.
I can also press app key or shift+f10 when on an artists to get a context menu of options.
When tracks by an artist are playing, control+l will bring up a track list that I can move through with up and down arrows.

Jim

On 01/03/2020 01:21, Mary Otten wrote:
Hi all,
It has been a long time since I ventured to open iTunes on my pc. I have the latest version, recently installed, and I have the NVDA latest as well. I can tab and find a tree view that is my music library. and I can arrow down through sections like albums, artists, songs etc. But I can't find a way to get from my chosen selection, say artists, into the list of artists, so that I might pick one. I have tried right arrow to no avail. Tab yields nothing useful. Pressing enter starts a song by the first artist in the listing of artists. But I can't find a keyboard-centric way to actually get to that list. Any advice?
Mary