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Re: nvda and react os

 

Well it would be good if react os would become accessible.
One thing that is a driving force for me is it will run windows programs and therefore games and screen readers probably though thats not the only thing.
With the rise of ms own account system, and later oses such as windows 8x and 10 a lot of things we have taken for granted are on the move or going out.
The desktop app is on the way out, and while I know those of us that have embraced cross platform and touch tablets are round and getting more commenplace there are still those I'd imagine like me that have never changed.
I for example would still be quite happy with an xp like interface, or a win7 like interface for windows and office and everything else without the crazy ribbon system wishfull as it currently is.
And in some way being I came round the time dos was still king I sometimes want to return to the simple times where your os was just a basic crappy box where you shoved apps on.
As it is, I have used the desktop so much the cloud and all the online apps are something I have never been born into and I see no reason bar the obvious why I would want to change now.
In fact I see no reason from a user standpoint for what I do to even upgrade from xp though I do like the newer 7 interface.
As an os a windows 10 core is nice but even so I see no need for the extra features.
At the same time I wouldn't mind staying with a windows like os, as while yes there is linux I have to deal with windows and windows is what I grew up mostly with.
Its why I have a simbian cell now and will for some time.
And its probably why I have windows 7 and others in my immediate family will for the future do also.
Every time I try to get the nerve to upgrade I and my family have found it harder and harder to upgrade an os.
windows 3x to 95 was a no brainer.
as was 95 to 98 and then from 98 to xp.
But that is where it stuck, I saw no need to go vista.
And if xp hadn't gone out of support I wouldn't have left that.
I am happy I went to 7 though.
However yet again another sticking point, I see no need to ever upgrade again.
And with my dad retiring at the end of next month, the drive to have the latest legal office program and latest legal os is greatly diminished.
Now thats not going to mean I won't upgrade, or that I will pirate the next windows and office but its going to get just that bit harder to move on to use something I wouldn't ever need.
Even if its true I would probably be fine with it afterward.
Now if I could buy an os core and use whatever interface I want and whatever feature set and take bits and bobs of both it wouldn't matter a dime but I have to take it or leave it and that really starts to put me in a position especially now my funds will be more reduced.
Its going to become a have to rather than like to.
Or to put it another way, a if it works and I don't loose my data then I won't.
But like all things react os may never get there.

On 12/04/2016 11:18 a.m., Pete wrote:

Hi
I keep checking on the react os project. It is up 04.40 now.
So far in accessibility they came up with a built in magnifier and
looks like some kind of access wizard.
I think they need blind computer users to show an interest in it. May
be they will get it accessible.
The read me is belo.
---
========================
ReactOS™ Version 0.4.x
Updated January 5, 2016
========================

1. What is ReactOS?
-------------------

ReactOS™ is an Open Source effort to develop a quality operating system
that is
compatible with applications and drivers written for the Microsoft®
Windows™ NT
family of operating systems (NT4, 2000, XP, 2003, Vista, Seven).

More information is available at: http://www.reactos.org


2. Relationship with the WINE project
-------------------------------------

ReactOS has always intended to work with the WINE project to share as much
programming effort as possible. This mainly concerns User Mode DLLs and
still happens to a degree today. Other areas of cooperation lie in
applications and testing suites.


3. Future compatibility
-----------------------

The ReactOS project, although currently focused on Windows Server 2003
compatibility, is always keeping an eye toward compatibility with
Windows Vista and future Windows NT releases.


4. Supporting other System Applications
---------------------------------------

The Windows NT architecture allows for subsystems, as does the ReactOS
architecture. A subsystem is an implementation of the APIs of another
operating system, allowing ReactOS to run applications from other systems.
We are already looking at subsystems for: Java, OS/2, and DOS and possibly
others in the future.


5. Tutorials
------------

Developer and User Tutorials: http://www.reactos.org/wiki

The tutorials contain more information on the project, compiling and
testing
ReactOS - amongst other topics. Contributors to the project are always
welcome.


6. Author
---------

This document was written by Jason Filby (jasonfilby@yahoo.com).

---
Thanks!
Pete


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Re: Changing the volume

Gene
 

You are probably using the illegal add on, which is not allowed to be discussed on list. 
 
Are you aware that there are versions of Eloquence that are legal and that are not expensive in terms of U.S. dollars? 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 7:50 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Changing the volume

Eti eloquence

On Apr 11, 2016, at 8:21 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

What synthesizer are you using? 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 6:54 PM
Subject: [nvda] Changing the volume

Hello when I go into preferences and I try to raise the volume and when I click on OK it does not except my changes. What am I doing wrong? I am using Windows 7 thanks
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Re: Changing the volume

stancil tootle
 

Eti eloquence

On Apr 11, 2016, at 8:21 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

What synthesizer are you using? 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 6:54 PM
Subject: [nvda] Changing the volume

Hello when I go into preferences and I try to raise the volume and when I click on OK it does not except my changes. What am I doing wrong? I am using Windows 7 thanks
____________________________________________________________
Wall Street Daily
Peter Schiff: China Just Armed its Financial Missile
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Peter Schiff: China Just Armed its Financial Missile
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Re: Changing the volume

Kenny Dog <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi

Did you save your changes? Use the nvda key +ctrl key + the letter C to
do this. The slider can also be moved with the arrow keys.


Gene nz

On 12-Apr-16 11:54 AM, stancil tootle wrote:
Hello when I go into preferences and I try to raise the volume and when I click on OK it does not except my changes. What am I doing wrong? I am using Windows 7 thanks
____________________________________________________________
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Peter Schiff: China Just Armed its Financial Missile
http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/570c391f4f80f391e6957st02duc


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Re: Changing the volume

Kenny Dog <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi

Did you save your changes? Use the nvda key +ctrl key + the letter C to
do this. The slider can also be moved with the arrow keys.


Gene nz

On 12-Apr-16 11:54 AM, stancil tootle wrote:
Hello when I go into preferences and I try to raise the volume and when I click on OK it does not except my changes. What am I doing wrong? I am using Windows 7 thanks
____________________________________________________________
Wall Street Daily
Peter Schiff: China Just Armed its Financial Missile
http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/570c391f4f80f391e6957st02duc


--
Check out my website for nvda tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net


Re: Changing the volume

Gene
 

What synthesizer are you using? 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 6:54 PM
Subject: [nvda] Changing the volume

Hello when I go into preferences and I try to raise the volume and when I click on OK it does not except my changes. What am I doing wrong? I am using Windows 7 thanks
____________________________________________________________
Wall Street Daily
Peter Schiff: China Just Armed its Financial Missile
http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/570c391f4f80f391e6957st02duc




Changing the volume

stancil tootle
 

Hello when I go into preferences and I try to raise the volume and when I click on OK it does not except my changes. What am I doing wrong? I am using Windows 7 thanks
____________________________________________________________
Wall Street Daily
Peter Schiff: China Just Armed its Financial Missile
http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/570c391f4f80f391e6957st02duc


Re: nvda and react os

 

Hi,
Hmmm, quite an interesting development.
Until the day ReactOS supports MSAA and UIA...
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: Pete [mailto:emac00@cogeco.ca]
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 4:19 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] nvda and react os


Hi
I keep checking on the react os project. It is up 04.40 now.
So far in accessibility they came up with a built in magnifier and looks like some kind of access wizard.
I think they need blind computer users to show an interest in it.
May be they will get it accessible.
The read me is belo.
---
========================
ReactOS™ Version 0.4.x
Updated January 5, 2016
========================

1. What is ReactOS?
-------------------

ReactOS™ is an Open Source effort to develop a quality operating system that is compatible with applications and drivers written for the Microsoft® Windows™ NT family of operating systems (NT4, 2000, XP, 2003, Vista, Seven).

More information is available at: http://www.reactos.org


2. Relationship with the WINE project
-------------------------------------

ReactOS has always intended to work with the WINE project to share as much programming effort as possible. This mainly concerns User Mode DLLs and still happens to a degree today. Other areas of cooperation lie in applications and testing suites.


3. Future compatibility
-----------------------

The ReactOS project, although currently focused on Windows Server 2003 compatibility, is always keeping an eye toward compatibility with Windows Vista and future Windows NT releases.


4. Supporting other System Applications
---------------------------------------

The Windows NT architecture allows for subsystems, as does the ReactOS architecture. A subsystem is an implementation of the APIs of another operating system, allowing ReactOS to run applications from other systems.
We are already looking at subsystems for: Java, OS/2, and DOS and possibly others in the future.


5. Tutorials
------------

Developer and User Tutorials: http://www.reactos.org/wiki

The tutorials contain more information on the project, compiling and testing ReactOS - amongst other topics. Contributors to the project are always welcome.


6. Author
---------

This document was written by Jason Filby (jasonfilby@yahoo.com).

---
Thanks!
Pete


nvda and react os

Pete <emac00@...>
 

Hi
I keep checking on the react os project. It is up 04.40 now.
So far in accessibility they came up with a built in magnifier and looks like some kind of access wizard.
I think they need blind computer users to show an interest in it. May be they will get it accessible.
The read me is belo.
---
========================
ReactOS™ Version 0.4.x
Updated January 5, 2016
========================

1. What is ReactOS?
-------------------

ReactOS™ is an Open Source effort to develop a quality operating system that is
compatible with applications and drivers written for the Microsoft® Windows™ NT
family of operating systems (NT4, 2000, XP, 2003, Vista, Seven).

More information is available at: http://www.reactos.org


2. Relationship with the WINE project
-------------------------------------

ReactOS has always intended to work with the WINE project to share as much
programming effort as possible. This mainly concerns User Mode DLLs and
still happens to a degree today. Other areas of cooperation lie in
applications and testing suites.


3. Future compatibility
-----------------------

The ReactOS project, although currently focused on Windows Server 2003
compatibility, is always keeping an eye toward compatibility with
Windows Vista and future Windows NT releases.


4. Supporting other System Applications
---------------------------------------

The Windows NT architecture allows for subsystems, as does the ReactOS
architecture. A subsystem is an implementation of the APIs of another
operating system, allowing ReactOS to run applications from other systems.
We are already looking at subsystems for: Java, OS/2, and DOS and possibly
others in the future.


5. Tutorials
------------

Developer and User Tutorials: http://www.reactos.org/wiki

The tutorials contain more information on the project, compiling and testing
ReactOS - amongst other topics. Contributors to the project are always welcome.


6. Author
---------

This document was written by Jason Filby (jasonfilby@yahoo.com).

---
Thanks!
Pete


Re: firefox and google

David Moore
 

Hi,
Make sure that you turn the virtual cursor back on or be in brows mode when you read the PDF in the viewer. Are you using the same browser on both machines? IE and Firefox work great for Google Docs, so on the machine that is giving you trouble, try the other browser and see what happens. Take care.
 
 

From: Chad Brown
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 9:21 AM
Subject: [nvda] firefox and google
 

 

Hello,

When trying to open up a pdf sent to me on google docs it works fine on one machine. On the other after doing the insert space it will only say showing viewer when I arrow down. What setting do I have wrong on that machine.

Thanks.

 

 

Chad Brown

Assistive Technology Consultant

 


Re: NVDA And TripleTalk Synthesizer

gstoodley
 

Thanks for the response and the steps to follow. I will give it a try. I had begun to think this list was only for frequent flyers with 6 comments on the same issue.

-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Huber
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 3:53 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA And TripleTalk Synthesizer

Hi:
You could try decreasing the amount of punctuation which is spoken
automatically using the following steps:
1. Press insert-n to open the NVDA menu.
2. Arrow down to Preferences.
3. Press the right arrow to open the submenu.
4. Arrow down to Voice settings and press the Enter key
5. Tab to Punctuation settings and just use the up or down arrow to
change the setting.
6. Press the Enter key to get out of that dialog.

I hope this helps.
Kevin Huber


On 4/8/16, gstoodley <gstoodley@bell.net> wrote:
I am a very beginning NVDA user with a TripleTalk USB speech synthesizer and

the most recent version of NVDA. NVDA keeps saying “bar” or “L” before each

item in a list as I arrow through the list. Is there a setting to stop
these repetitions of characters that don’t seem to be present?


Re: NVDA And TripleTalk Synthesizer

Kevin Huber
 

Hi:
You could try decreasing the amount of punctuation which is spoken
automatically using the following steps:
1. Press insert-n to open the NVDA menu.
2. Arrow down to Preferences.
3. Press the right arrow to open the submenu.
4. Arrow down to Voice settings and press the Enter key
5. Tab to Punctuation settings and just use the up or down arrow to
change the setting.
6. Press the Enter key to get out of that dialog.

I hope this helps.
Kevin Huber

On 4/8/16, gstoodley <gstoodley@bell.net> wrote:
I am a very beginning NVDA user with a TripleTalk USB speech synthesizer and

the most recent version of NVDA. NVDA keeps saying “bar” or “L” before each

item in a list as I arrow through the list. Is there a setting to stop
these repetitions of characters that don’t seem to be present?


Re: urgent - Google Drive: file download issue

Gene
 

I experimented and found that, in the absence of a download link or button, I could select text by starting at the top and repeatedly using shift down arrow.  I don't know if you can retain the original formatting using this technique but I was able to select the entire document of nineteen pages with perhaps four or five shift down arrows.  I was using Firefox and it may have its own viewer for Google drive documents.  I don't use google drive so I'm not sure, but it worked.  I found that I could easily tell when I had selected everything because continuing to use shift page down caused the same line of text to be spoken repeatedly. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 4:10 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] urgent - Google Drive: file download issue

I recently failed to find a downloadbutton on a google drive link sent to me
from our local council. Nobody could help me. In the end they put it on
dropbox for me.
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Bhavya shah" <bhavya.shah125@...>
To: <nvda@groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2016 7:31 PM
Subject: [nvda] urgent - Google Drive: file download issue


> Dear all,
> For a model United Nation named Indian International MUN, we are
> expected to prepare somewhat on the basis of specified instructions,
> agenda and a study guide that they have provided.
> Now, I would like to download this file, for offline access.
> My file is IAEA.docx as I am a delegate of China in the International
> Atomic Energy Agency.
> When I click that link, both in Internet Explorer and in Mozilla
> Firefox, the file is shown in a viewer, and even using Internet
> Download Manager, I am unable to locate a .docx file to download by
> the same name.
> Thus, could someone please instruct me as to how I could go about
> getting this document downloaded rather being displayed online itself
> in the browser? I f someone could do the process for me themselves and
> attach the file as an atttachment (should be a hopefully tiny document
> file), and explain what they did to download later, that would be
> extremely appreciated too.
> I have not more than a few days in hand, as the competition starts on
> Thursday, and I have something else this weekend too for which I am
> absolutely busy, hence, it will be in school and at times when I will
> not have Internet access when I will be able to best research about
> IIMUN through their study guide. Will do further research online too,
> of course.
> I would sincerely appreciate any quick assistance you may able to provide!
> Thanks.
>
> --
> Warm Regards
> Bhavya Shah
> Using NVDA (Non Visual Desktop Access) free and open source screen
> reader for Microsoft Windows
> To download a copy of the free screen reader NVDA, please visit
> http://www.nvaccess.org/
> Using Google Talkback on Motorolla G second generation Lollipop 5.0.2
> Reach me through the following means:
> Mobile: +91 7506221750
> E-mail id: bhavya.shah125@...
> Skype id : bhavya.09
>
>
>




Re: firefox and google

 

Chad,

          Also, if this material is not of a private nature, could you include a specific link so that I can use precisely what you want to access for testing on my end?

Brian


Re: firefox and google

 

Chad,

           Sorry to keep asking questions, but this is complicated because there are so many "possibles" going on here.

           I need to be clear, absolutely clear, about what you mean as far as "see it on my machine."  It is possible that you are seeing it still within Firefox but using either the Firefox PDF preview function or Adobe's plug-in to see it.  You may also be having it automatically opened in Adobe Reader as a standalone program.  From your description I think it's impossible that you are seeing it in the Google Drive documents previewer, but it remains a remote possibility.

            It sounds like your coworker is actually having the document open in the Google Drive documents previewer within Firefox.

            In order to get the behavior you want I need to know what that behavior would be and what is actually happening now.  I've grown to hate PDF previewers and generally reconfigure my browsers to force PDF files to be opened in the PDF Reader instead.  None of the previewers seem to work well with screen readers (but if one does that would be useful to know - things are constantly changing).

Brian


Re: firefox and google

Chad Brown <CBrown@...>
 

Hello,

It is a google folder. I click on the open link within the email.

Then I navigate to the PDF file  and I am able to see it on my machine.

The other staff member gets the showing viewer message. I believe it is opening up in firefox and not a PDF add-on.

 

From: Brian Vogel [mailto:britechguy@...]
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 8:44 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] firefox and google

 

Chad,

          By "works fine on one machine" are you saying that the document is opened by your PDF viewer of choice completely separate from Firefox?  Also, when you say "sent to me on Google Docs" exactly how (things can be sent as a link, attachment, etc.).

          What I'm trying to determine is what "works fine" means for you and exactly how you're accessing the document in question to trigger "works fine."

Brian


Re: urgent - Google Drive: file download issue

 

Brian,

           Actually this isn't Google, per se, but the person who put the documents up on Google Drive.  The settings to get this behavior exist to minimize (not eliminate) people having access to the original documents which can be helpful at times.  It's not often used, and given the nature of the documents in that folder I have no idea why it was used in this instance.  I had never encountered this situation in all my years of using Google Drive (formerly Google Docs), so users really don't use this combination of settings to create this behavior very often.

Brian V


Re: firefox and google

 

Chad,

          By "works fine on one machine" are you saying that the document is opened by your PDF viewer of choice completely separate from Firefox?  Also, when you say "sent to me on Google Docs" exactly how (things can be sent as a link, attachment, etc.).

          What I'm trying to determine is what "works fine" means for you and exactly how you're accessing the document in question to trigger "works fine."

Brian


firefox and google

Chad Brown <CBrown@...>
 

 

Hello,

When trying to open up a pdf sent to me on google docs it works fine on one machine. On the other after doing the insert space it will only say showing viewer when I arrow down. What setting do I have wrong on that machine.

Thanks.

 

 

Chad Brown

Assistive Technology Consultant

 


Re: IRC

Rob
 

Walker, Michael E. (UMSL-Student) <michael.walker@mail.umsl.edu> wrote:


Hi, what is the most accessible way to configure NVDA for IRC? What clients are most accessible? Thanks.
mIRC is read automatically by NVDA. It's pretty straightforward to set up, but if you need further help, just write back and I can advise. There are no weird accessibility issues for mIRC.
One thing you might think about doing is disabling the tree bar in the view menu. But that's my own personal preference and does not impact NVDA at all.